Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Just wondering.... It's now T-65 minutes... what will be the rebel cost for any of these chaps who 'refuses' to switch off analogue? Kshs 20 million or license revocation? or what? ------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 10:21 PM MSK Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Because of frequency spectrum limitations.
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From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:56 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Reply To: [email protected] Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
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________________________________ From: Wambua, Christopher <[email protected]>; To: <[email protected]>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <[email protected]>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:43:55 PM
The tender for the 2nd signal distribution licence was an open one. And indeed some of the local media set up a consortium through which they submitted a bid. Their bid was however unsuccessful.
If they had put in an attractive bid, they could have improved their chances of winning. Even if CCK were to float another tender for signal distribution restricted only to local firms, interested companies would have to compete for the licence. Firms that submit poor bids would still lose.
Local firms need to improve their capacity in responding to government tenders. If they don't, they will continue losing out to international firms even in businesses where they have proven expertise.
Wambua
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From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:22 PM To: Ngigi Waithaka Reply To: [email protected] Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
i think their major compliant is the limiting of the number of signal distributors. they had hoped to also be signal distributors
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________________________________ From: Ngigi Waithaka <[email protected]>; To: <[email protected]>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <[email protected]>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 4:01:53 PM
Quick one,
Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog?
While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform.
For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that....
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io>
On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <[email protected]> wrote: Ali,
It’s no secret am for the digital migration.
Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move?
These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya.
What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements.
Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms?
If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom.
BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast.
Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace.
Regards
PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point.
From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@Wambua
Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then.
@ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree. Ali Hussein
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On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <[email protected]> wrote: Ali,
I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses.
Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence.
Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources?
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To: ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@ Ohaga, ICT Researcher
Lest we forget
2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State...
The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date.
Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done.
The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded.
Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it?
The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses?
Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:-
The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations.
This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done.
Ali Hussein
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"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <[email protected]> wrote:
i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/
Commeding Kenyalaw.org<http://Kenyalaw.org> people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc...
------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote:
-2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1
------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote:
+1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1
Regards
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On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <[email protected]> wrote:
This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender...
Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company.
We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage?
Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests!
But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed!
Merry Xmas.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <[email protected]> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
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"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <[email protected]> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible.
sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <[email protected]> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= [email protected]]<mailto:[mailto: [email protected]]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected]> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
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There are all indications that the media shall comply. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: ICT Researcher Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 22:52 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Just wondering.... It's now T-65 minutes... what will be the rebel cost for any of these chaps who 'refuses' to switch off analogue? Kshs 20 million or license revocation? or what? ------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 10:21 PM MSK Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Because of frequency spectrum limitations.
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From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:56 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Reply To: [email protected] Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
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________________________________ From: Wambua, Christopher <[email protected]>; To: <[email protected]>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <[email protected]>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:43:55 PM
The tender for the 2nd signal distribution licence was an open one. And indeed some of the local media set up a consortium through which they submitted a bid. Their bid was however unsuccessful.
If they had put in an attractive bid, they could have improved their chances of winning. Even if CCK were to float another tender for signal distribution restricted only to local firms, interested companies would have to compete for the licence. Firms that submit poor bids would still lose.
Local firms need to improve their capacity in responding to government tenders. If they don't, they will continue losing out to international firms even in businesses where they have proven expertise.
Wambua
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From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:22 PM To: Ngigi Waithaka Reply To: [email protected] Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
i think their major compliant is the limiting of the number of signal distributors. they had hoped to also be signal distributors
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________________________________ From: Ngigi Waithaka <[email protected]>; To: <[email protected]>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <[email protected]>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 4:01:53 PM
Quick one,
Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog?
While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform.
For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that....
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io>
On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <[email protected]> wrote: Ali,
It’s no secret am for the digital migration.
Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move?
These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya.
What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements.
Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms?
If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom.
BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast.
Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace.
Regards
PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point.
From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@Wambua
Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then.
@ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree. Ali Hussein
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On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <[email protected]> wrote: Ali,
I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses.
Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence.
Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources?
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To: ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@ Ohaga, ICT Researcher
Lest we forget
2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State...
The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date.
Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done.
The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded.
Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it?
The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses?
Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:-
The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations.
This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done.
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <[email protected]> wrote:
i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/
Commeding Kenyalaw.org<http://Kenyalaw.org> people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc...
------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote:
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------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote:
+1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1
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On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <[email protected]> wrote:
This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender...
Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company.
We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage?
Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests!
But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed!
Merry Xmas.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <[email protected]> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
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On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <[email protected]> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible.
sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <[email protected]> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= [email protected]]<mailto:[mailto: [email protected]]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected]> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
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Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
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Bw. Wambua, I think the question that I asked previously and what is being asked here is does CCK have the mechanism in place to deal with errant entities. Penalties for non compliance and those wishing to pull the plug should they not get their way. It's well and good if they comply but just in case.... Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2013, at 10:55 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <[email protected]> wrote:
There are all indications that the media shall comply. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
From: ICT Researcher Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 22:52 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Just wondering.... It's now T-65 minutes... what will be the rebel cost for any of these chaps who 'refuses' to switch off analogue? Kshs 20 million or license revocation? or what?
------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 10:21 PM MSK Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Because of frequency spectrum limitations.
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:56 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Reply To: [email protected] Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
why was the number of signal distributors limited to two? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>
________________________________ From: Wambua, Christopher <[email protected]>; To: <[email protected]>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <[email protected]>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:43:55 PM
The tender for the 2nd signal distribution licence was an open one. And indeed some of the local media set up a consortium through which they submitted a bid. Their bid was however unsuccessful.
If they had put in an attractive bid, they could have improved their chances of winning. Even if CCK were to float another tender for signal distribution restricted only to local firms, interested companies would have to compete for the licence. Firms that submit poor bids would still lose.
Local firms need to improve their capacity in responding to government tenders. If they don't, they will continue losing out to international firms even in businesses where they have proven expertise.
Wambua
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:22 PM To: Ngigi Waithaka Reply To: [email protected] Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
i think their major compliant is the limiting of the number of signal distributors. they had hoped to also be signal distributors
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________________________________ From: Ngigi Waithaka <[email protected]>; To: <[email protected]>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <[email protected]>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 4:01:53 PM
Quick one,
Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog?
While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform.
For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that....
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io>
On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <[email protected]> wrote: Ali,
It’s no secret am for the digital migration.
Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move?
These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya.
What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements.
Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms?
If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom.
BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast.
Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace.
Regards
PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point.
From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@Wambua
Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then.
@ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree. Ali Hussein
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On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <[email protected]> wrote: Ali,
I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses.
Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence.
Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources?
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To: ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@ Ohaga, ICT Researcher
Lest we forget
2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State...
The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date.
Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done.
The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded.
Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it?
The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses?
Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:-
The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations.
This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done.
Ali Hussein
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On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <[email protected]> wrote:
i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/
Commeding Kenyalaw.org<http://Kenyalaw.org> people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc...
------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote:
-2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1
------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote:
+1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1
Regards
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On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <[email protected]> wrote:
This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender...
Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company.
We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage?
Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests!
But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed!
Merry Xmas.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <[email protected]> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <[email protected]> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible.
sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <[email protected]> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= [email protected]]<mailto:[mailto: [email protected]]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected]> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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All licences issued by CCK come with terms and conditions . In addition, the regulations also provide a framework for enforcement of compliance. In the case of broadcasters, failing to comply with regulatory decision can lead to withdrawal of frequency licences. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Lkimani Sent: Friday, 27 December 2013 00:21 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Bw. Wambua, I think the question that I asked previously and what is being asked here is does CCK have the mechanism in place to deal with errant entities. Penalties for non compliance and those wishing to pull the plug should they not get their way. It's well and good if they comply but just in case.... Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2013, at 10:55 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: There are all indications that the media shall comply. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: ICT Researcher Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 22:52 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Just wondering.... It's now T-65 minutes... what will be the rebel cost for any of these chaps who 'refuses' to switch off analogue? Kshs 20 million or license revocation? or what? ------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 10:21 PM MSK Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Because of frequency spectrum limitations.
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:56 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Reply To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
why was the number of signal distributors limited to two? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>
________________________________ From: Wambua, Christopher <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:43:55 PM
The tender for the 2nd signal distribution licence was an open one. And indeed some of the local media set up a consortium through which they submitted a bid. Their bid was however unsuccessful.
If they had put in an attractive bid, they could have improved their chances of winning. Even if CCK were to float another tender for signal distribution restricted only to local firms, interested companies would have to compete for the licence. Firms that submit poor bids would still lose.
Local firms need to improve their capacity in responding to government tenders. If they don't, they will continue losing out to international firms even in businesses where they have proven expertise.
Wambua
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From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:22 PM To: Ngigi Waithaka Reply To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
i think their major compliant is the limiting of the number of signal distributors. they had hoped to also be signal distributors
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________________________________ From: Ngigi Waithaka <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 4:01:53 PM
Quick one,
Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog?
While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform.
For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that....
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
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On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Ali,
It’s no secret am for the digital migration.
Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move?
These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya.
What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements.
Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms?
If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom.
BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast.
Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace.
Regards
PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point.
From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@Wambua
Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then.
@ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree. Ali Hussein
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On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Ali,
I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses.
Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence.
Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources?
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To: ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@ Ohaga, ICT Researcher
Lest we forget
2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State...
The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date.
Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done.
The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded.
Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it?
The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses?
Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:-
The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations.
This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done.
Ali Hussein
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On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/
Commeding Kenyalaw.org<http://Kenyalaw.org><http://Kenyalaw.org> people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc...
------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote:
-2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1
------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote:
+1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender...
Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company.
We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage?
Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests!
But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed!
Merry Xmas.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io><http://www.A1.io> On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible.
sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]<mailto:[mailto: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
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