Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy
Listers Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail. Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Internet--phones-blocked-as-House-debates... A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries. Well now you have your answer. If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
Technology to locally disable gsm devices has been available commercially for a long time, and is typically used in some countries in areas you are asked not to use mobile phones, such as cinemas. I'm not sure if this tech is legal here. Advice from CA is needed. I am guessing, but I think the reported blocking of 'internet' was only via gsm, and was blocked as a consequence of blocking the gsm devices. Whether such localised blocking of communications is permissible is debatable, but it certainly gives cause for concern. I think clear direction is needed ahead of August 2017 Cheers, Tony On 21/12/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail.
Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Internet--phones-blocked-as-House-debates...
A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries.
Well now you have your answer.
If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country.
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
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Hi Ali and Tony, This is quite unfortunate and a sign of things to come if we don't confront the issue. I hope Mr. Esuchi can clarify for us the governments position for the same as he did on Zaks (rip) matter, actions such as these might result in chaos in the ICT and Telecommunications industry which we have worked hard to establish as a country over the years. Information control is often disastrous going by past experiences, if the honourable members were misbehaving, it was an indictment against themselves and they shall be rewarded at the ballot box for their conduct. My two cents On Dec 21, 2016 7:59 AM, "Tony White via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Technology to locally disable gsm devices has been available commercially for a long time, and is typically used in some countries in areas you are asked not to use mobile phones, such as cinemas. I'm not sure if this tech is legal here. Advice from CA is needed.
I am guessing, but I think the reported blocking of 'internet' was only via gsm, and was blocked as a consequence of blocking the gsm devices.
Whether such localised blocking of communications is permissible is debatable, but it certainly gives cause for concern.
I think clear direction is needed ahead of August 2017
Cheers, Tony
Listers
Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual
On 21/12/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: transmission
of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail.
Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Internet--phones-blocked-as- House-debates-election-laws/539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/index.html
A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries.
Well now you have your answer.
If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country.
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
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I am curious if they blocked gsm or just turned off the base stations that served that area. Regards, Alex -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Tony White via kictanet Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 7:59 AM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Tony White <tony.mzungu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy Technology to locally disable gsm devices has been available commercially for a long time, and is typically used in some countries in areas you are asked not to use mobile phones, such as cinemas. I'm not sure if this tech is legal here. Advice from CA is needed. I am guessing, but I think the reported blocking of 'internet' was only via gsm, and was blocked as a consequence of blocking the gsm devices. Whether such localised blocking of communications is permissible is debatable, but it certainly gives cause for concern. I think clear direction is needed ahead of August 2017 Cheers, Tony On 21/12/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail.
Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Internet--phones-blocked-as-House-d ebates-election-laws/539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/index.html
A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries.
Well now you have your answer.
If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country.
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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It's more likely jamming the GSM signal than the base stations option. You see, parliament has good GSM coverage everywhere due to it's location - I suppose. But again, what matters is the action, not the method used. It's an undesirable action in this time and age. And it's worrying enough that this same action is very likely to be replicated in 2017 in certain areas.... On 21 December 2016 at 20:25, Alex Watila via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I am curious if they blocked gsm or just turned off the base stations that served that area.
Regards,
Alex
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists. kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Tony White via kictanet Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 7:59 AM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Tony White <tony.mzungu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy
Technology to locally disable gsm devices has been available commercially for a long time, and is typically used in some countries in areas you are asked not to use mobile phones, such as cinemas. I'm not sure if this tech is legal here. Advice from CA is needed.
I am guessing, but I think the reported blocking of 'internet' was only via gsm, and was blocked as a consequence of blocking the gsm devices.
Whether such localised blocking of communications is permissible is debatable, but it certainly gives cause for concern.
I think clear direction is needed ahead of August 2017
Cheers, Tony
On 21/12/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail.
Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Internet--phones-blocked-as-House-d ebates-election-laws/539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/index.html
A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries.
Well now you have your answer.
If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country.
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
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Dear All, It is all about who will win the ...... Are the right qualified with the right experience auditing any process or database... The Lobby and Industry Groups are trying but their leadership have very little know how what tech can do as the chairman of one such group can argue on the difference as an expert... in technology. I thought the expertise was in business of manufacturing. Therefore, as an industry we look at the contract given out for the review / audit of the voter register... here lies the issue we give it to a big 4 and what real skills do they have in the AFIS, Matching and verification ... in my humble view pretty close the negative zero. Plus the process followed with an EOI? In 2016 we are not even be able to follow a simple procurement process, and we accept this? Finally, we have the law which states that we adopt to electronic democracy, we go back and change it to manual as means of plan B. Let's look at a solution and providing a good solution and lean on India ... Mr Modi was here a few moons ago and there were some bilateral agreements in place, can we not piggy back on this??? India is fully electronic with more remote areas then Kenya, can we not use the Mawingu - White space project to provide the secure bandwidth or a satellite formation that will ensure the connect. Can we not hire the device used by India and challenge our young ICT community to build an innovative app. Etc etc My 2 cents worth.... Merry Christmas And Happy New Year 2016 Best Regards, Baiju Tel. 0787332247
On 21 Dec 2016, at 20:49, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's more likely jamming the GSM signal than the base stations option. You see, parliament has good GSM coverage everywhere due to it's location - I suppose. But again, what matters is the action, not the method used. It's an undesirable action in this time and age. And it's worrying enough that this same action is very likely to be replicated in 2017 in certain areas....
On 21 December 2016 at 20:25, Alex Watila via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: I am curious if they blocked gsm or just turned off the base stations that served that area.
Regards,
Alex
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Tony White via kictanet Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 7:59 AM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Tony White <tony.mzungu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy
Technology to locally disable gsm devices has been available commercially for a long time, and is typically used in some countries in areas you are asked not to use mobile phones, such as cinemas. I'm not sure if this tech is legal here. Advice from CA is needed.
I am guessing, but I think the reported blocking of 'internet' was only via gsm, and was blocked as a consequence of blocking the gsm devices.
Whether such localised blocking of communications is permissible is debatable, but it certainly gives cause for concern.
I think clear direction is needed ahead of August 2017
Cheers, Tony
On 21/12/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail.
Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Internet--phones-blocked-as-House-d ebates-election-laws/539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/index.html
A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries.
Well now you have your answer.
If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country.
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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How can we intervene to circumvent any downtime to necessitate fail over to the manual transmission. At this point, we should be auditing the systems in place at IEBC as an ICT community. Can we take measures to be ready to show the IEBC infrastructure is resilient and guarantees the high availability desired. Best, Muthoni On Dec 21, 2016 5:03 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail.
Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Internet--phones-blocked-as- House-debates-election-laws/539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/index.html
A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries.
Well now you have your answer.
If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country.
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Dorcas That is a great idea. I suggest the following action:- KICTAnet and other like minded organizations like ISACA form a committee of experts and formally request for an audit at IEBC and a team of experts to be stationed at the secretariat to ensure against breaches. This should assure all parties. This needs to be done post-haste. This is our country, the government is ours and the tail can't wag the dog. At least the dog shouldn't allow itself to be wagged by the dog. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 21 Dec 2016, at 8:46 AM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
How can we intervene to circumvent any downtime to necessitate fail over to the manual transmission.
At this point, we should be auditing the systems in place at IEBC as an ICT community.
Can we take measures to be ready to show the IEBC infrastructure is resilient and guarantees the high availability desired.
Best, Muthoni
On Dec 21, 2016 5:03 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Listers
Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail.
Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Internet--phones-blocked-as-House-debates...
A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries.
Well now you have your answer.
If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country.
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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Just to add my 0.02 cts - the powers-that-be wouldn't allow this noble suggestion. They don't want it. If they did, such an audit would have been carried out immediately after the last elections. My take is that it is by design that they do not want such an open[0] and resilient system. [0] That everyone gets to know how the system operates will take away the advantage the powers-that-be already have, of opacity and prevent them from exploiting the holes within it like last time. On 21 December 2016 at 08:55, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dorcas
That is a great idea. I suggest the following action:-
KICTAnet and other like minded organizations like ISACA form a committee of experts and formally request for an audit at IEBC and a team of experts to be stationed at the secretariat to ensure against breaches.
This should assure all parties.
This needs to be done post-haste.
This is our country, the government is ours and the tail can't wag the dog. At least the dog shouldn't allow itself to be wagged by the dog.
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113
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Sent from my iPad
On 21 Dec 2016, at 8:46 AM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
How can we intervene to circumvent any downtime to necessitate fail over to the manual transmission.
At this point, we should be auditing the systems in place at IEBC as an ICT community.
Can we take measures to be ready to show the IEBC infrastructure is resilient and guarantees the high availability desired.
Best, Muthoni
On Dec 21, 2016 5:03 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail.
Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Internet--phones-blocked- as-House-debates-election-laws/539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/index.html
A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries.
Well now you have your answer.
If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country.
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 <0713%20601113>
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@ Dorcas, The simple answer is that you/we cant. And it has nothing to do with technology. The system will fail even if you hired Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Larry Page + the late Steve Jobs to code and run it ;-). So we should be discussing what point of failure, beyond which we must then repeat the polls in specific polling stations, wards, constituencies or counties. This has to do with Recovery Point Objectives (RPO) and Recovery Time Objectives (RTO) - for those in the business continuity discipline. The agreement to the repeat exercise will in itself then act as a deterrent for malicious failure, and perhaps lead to a surprisingly flawless electronic execution. Here is my full take on the issue. WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are | | | | | | | | | | | WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are Nothing stops the opposition from abusing a failed system, but the incumbent always has an upper hand | | | | walu. ---- From: Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy How can we intervene to circumvent any downtime to necessitate fail over to the manual transmission. At this point, we should be auditing the systems in place at IEBC as an ICT community. Can we take measures to be ready to show the IEBC infrastructure is resilient and guarantees the high availability desired. Best, Muthoni On Dec 21, 2016 5:03 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Listers Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail. Read on:-http://www. businessdailyafrica.com/ Internet--phones-blocked-as- House-debates-election-laws/ 539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/ index.html A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries. Well now you have your answer. If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country. Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin. com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad ______________________________ _________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/options/kictanet/ dmuthoni%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
How would we establish such potential poling stations without an initial audit to establish risk levels? Rather, we should know expected risk of failure per polling station beforehand. Begin with assessment and mitigation...I would say. On Dec 21, 2016 11:35 AM, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@ Dorcas,
The simple answer is that you/we cant. And it has nothing to do with technology. The system will fail even if you hired Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Larry Page + the late Steve Jobs to code and run it ;-).
So we should be discussing what point of failure, beyond which we must then repeat the polls in specific polling stations, wards, constituencies or counties. This has to do with Recovery Point Objectives (RPO) and Recovery Time Objectives (RTO) - for those in the business continuity discipline.
The agreement to the repeat exercise will in itself then act as a deterrent for malicious failure, and perhaps lead to a surprisingly flawless electronic execution.
Here is my full take on the issue.
WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/2274560-3492668-549k98/index.html>
WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are Nothing stops the opposition from abusing a failed system, but the incumbent always has an upper hand
<http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/2274560-3492668-549k98/index.html>
walu.
*----* *From:* Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:46 AM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy
How can we intervene to circumvent any downtime to necessitate fail over to the manual transmission.
At this point, we should be auditing the systems in place at IEBC as an ICT community.
Can we take measures to be ready to show the IEBC infrastructure is resilient and guarantees the high availability desired.
Best, Muthoni
On Dec 21, 2016 5:03 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail.
Read on:- http://www. businessdailyafrica.com/ Internet--phones-blocked-as- House-debates-election-laws/ 539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/ index.html <http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Internet--phones-blocked-as-House-debates-election-laws/539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/index.html>
A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries.
Well now you have your answer.
If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country.
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113
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True. Problem is you are thinking like a Techie. Think like a politician, then you will realize that the failure rate will NOT necessarily correlate with the risk profile that the Communication Authority already has mapped out in their Access Gap Reports. After all, Parliament of Kenya and its environs has Copper, Fiber, WiFi, 3G + 4G spectrum - and they still went off air :-) Think like a politician first, then a techie and you might get somewhere. walu. From: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy How would we establish such potential poling stations without an initial audit to establish risk levels? Rather, we should know expected risk of failure per polling station beforehand. Begin with assessment and mitigation...I would say. On Dec 21, 2016 11:35 AM, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: @ Dorcas, The simple answer is that you/we cant. And it has nothing to do with technology. The system will fail even if you hired Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Larry Page + the late Steve Jobs to code and run it ;-). So we should be discussing what point of failure, beyond which we must then repeat the polls in specific polling stations, wards, constituencies or counties. This has to do with Recovery Point Objectives (RPO) and Recovery Time Objectives (RTO) - for those in the business continuity discipline. The agreement to the repeat exercise will in itself then act as a deterrent for malicious failure, and perhaps lead to a surprisingly flawless electronic execution. Here is my full take on the issue. WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are | | | | | | | | | | | WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are Nothing stops the opposition from abusing a failed system, but the incumbent always has an upper hand | | | | walu. ---- From: Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy How can we intervene to circumvent any downtime to necessitate fail over to the manual transmission. At this point, we should be auditing the systems in place at IEBC as an ICT community. Can we take measures to be ready to show the IEBC infrastructure is resilient and guarantees the high availability desired. Best, Muthoni On Dec 21, 2016 5:03 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: Listers Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail. Read on:-http://www. businessdailyafrica.com/ Internet--phones-blocked-as- House-debates-election-laws/ 539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/ index.html A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries. Well now you have your answer. If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country. Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin. com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad ______________________________ _________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/options/kictanet/ dmuthoni%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Aaaah Walu, This spirit of giving it up to politicians is the one killing us. We never stand, so they always carry the day. Then we are left speaking amongst ourselves. Looking for a leader out there. Happy Holidays! On Dec 21, 2016 2:14 PM, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
True.
Problem is you are thinking like a Techie.
Think like a politician, then you will realize that the failure rate will NOT necessarily correlate with the risk profile that the Communication Authority already has mapped out in their Access Gap Reports.
After all, Parliament of Kenya and its environs has Copper, Fiber, WiFi, 3G + 4G spectrum - and they still went off air :-)
Think like a politician first, then a techie and you might get somewhere.
walu.
------------------------------ *From:* Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> *To:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 21, 2016 11:46 AM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy
How would we establish such potential poling stations without an initial audit to establish risk levels?
Rather, we should know expected risk of failure per polling station beforehand. Begin with assessment and mitigation...I would say.
On Dec 21, 2016 11:35 AM, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@ Dorcas,
The simple answer is that you/we cant. And it has nothing to do with technology. The system will fail even if you hired Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Larry Page + the late Steve Jobs to code and run it ;-).
So we should be discussing what point of failure, beyond which we must then repeat the polls in specific polling stations, wards, constituencies or counties. This has to do with Recovery Point Objectives (RPO) and Recovery Time Objectives (RTO) - for those in the business continuity discipline.
The agreement to the repeat exercise will in itself then act as a deterrent for malicious failure, and perhaps lead to a surprisingly flawless electronic execution.
Here is my full take on the issue.
WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/2274560-3492668-549k98/index.html>
WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are Nothing stops the opposition from abusing a failed system, but the incumbent always has an upper hand
<http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/2274560-3492668-549k98/index.html>
walu.
*----* *From:* Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:46 AM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy
How can we intervene to circumvent any downtime to necessitate fail over to the manual transmission.
At this point, we should be auditing the systems in place at IEBC as an ICT community.
Can we take measures to be ready to show the IEBC infrastructure is resilient and guarantees the high availability desired.
Best, Muthoni
On Dec 21, 2016 5:03 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
Listers
Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail.
Read on:- http://www. businessdailyafrica.com/ Internet--phones-blocked-as- House-debates-election-laws/ 539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/ index.html <http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Internet--phones-blocked-as-House-debates-election-laws/539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/index.html>
A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries.
Well now you have your answer.
If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country.
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin. com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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Dorcas I hear your frustrations...But that's the situation analysis according to St. Walubengo:-) and he's is just probably sorted the issue out for us. We are the dog. Why are we letting the tail wag us?? Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 21 Dec 2016, at 2:18 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Aaaah Walu,
This spirit of giving it up to politicians is the one killing us. We never stand, so they always carry the day. Then we are left speaking amongst ourselves.
Looking for a leader out there.
Happy Holidays!
On Dec 21, 2016 2:14 PM, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: True.
Problem is you are thinking like a Techie.
Think like a politician, then you will realize that the failure rate will NOT necessarily correlate with the risk profile that the Communication Authority already has mapped out in their Access Gap Reports.
After all, Parliament of Kenya and its environs has Copper, Fiber, WiFi, 3G + 4G spectrum - and they still went off air :-)
Think like a politician first, then a techie and you might get somewhere.
walu.
From: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy
How would we establish such potential poling stations without an initial audit to establish risk levels?
Rather, we should know expected risk of failure per polling station beforehand. Begin with assessment and mitigation...I would say.
On Dec 21, 2016 11:35 AM, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: @ Dorcas,
The simple answer is that you/we cant. And it has nothing to do with technology. The system will fail even if you hired Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Larry Page + the late Steve Jobs to code and run it ;-).
So we should be discussing what point of failure, beyond which we must then repeat the polls in specific polling stations, wards, constituencies or counties. This has to do with Recovery Point Objectives (RPO) and Recovery Time Objectives (RTO) - for those in the business continuity discipline.
The agreement to the repeat exercise will in itself then act as a deterrent for malicious failure, and perhaps lead to a surprisingly flawless electronic execution.
Here is my full take on the issue.
WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are
WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are Nothing stops the opposition from abusing a failed system, but the incumbent always has an upper hand
walu.
---- From: Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy
How can we intervene to circumvent any downtime to necessitate fail over to the manual transmission.
At this point, we should be auditing the systems in place at IEBC as an ICT community.
Can we take measures to be ready to show the IEBC infrastructure is resilient and guarantees the high availability desired.
Best, Muthoni
On Dec 21, 2016 5:03 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: Listers
Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail.
Read on:- http://www. businessdailyafrica.com/ Internet--phones-blocked-as- House-debates-election-laws/ 539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/ index.html
A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries.
Well now you have your answer.
If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country.
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin. com/in/alihkassim
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@Ali, Am not yet a Saint. But working on it :-) @Dorcas, I am not surrendering to politicians, just placing myself in their shoes. In order to help them, so that they help us. Left to their own devices, they will take us right where we were in 2007. walu. From: Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy Dorcas I hear your frustrations...But that's the situation analysis according to St. Walubengo:-) and he's is just probably sorted the issue out for us. We are the dog. Why are we letting the tail wag us?? Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad On 21 Dec 2016, at 2:18 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Aaaah Walu, This spirit of giving it up to politicians is the one killing us. We never stand, so they always carry the day. Then we are left speaking amongst ourselves. Looking for a leader out there. Happy Holidays! On Dec 21, 2016 2:14 PM, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: True. Problem is you are thinking like a Techie. Think like a politician, then you will realize that the failure rate will NOT necessarily correlate with the risk profile that the Communication Authority already has mapped out in their Access Gap Reports. After all, Parliament of Kenya and its environs has Copper, Fiber, WiFi, 3G + 4G spectrum - and they still went off air :-) Think like a politician first, then a techie and you might get somewhere. walu. From: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy How would we establish such potential poling stations without an initial audit to establish risk levels? Rather, we should know expected risk of failure per polling station beforehand. Begin with assessment and mitigation...I would say. On Dec 21, 2016 11:35 AM, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: @ Dorcas, The simple answer is that you/we cant. And it has nothing to do with technology. The system will fail even if you hired Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Larry Page + the late Steve Jobs to code and run it ;-). So we should be discussing what point of failure, beyond which we must then repeat the polls in specific polling stations, wards, constituencies or counties. This has to do with Recovery Point Objectives (RPO) and Recovery Time Objectives (RTO) - for those in the business continuity discipline. The agreement to the repeat exercise will in itself then act as a deterrent for malicious failure, and perhaps lead to a surprisingly flawless electronic execution. Here is my full take on the issue. WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are | | | | | | | | | | | WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are Nothing stops the opposition from abusing a failed system, but the incumbent always has an upper hand | | | | walu. ---- From: Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy How can we intervene to circumvent any downtime to necessitate fail over to the manual transmission. At this point, we should be auditing the systems in place at IEBC as an ICT community. Can we take measures to be ready to show the IEBC infrastructure is resilient and guarantees the high availability desired. Best, Muthoni On Dec 21, 2016 5:03 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: Listers Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail. Read on:-http://www. businessdailyafrica.com/ Internet--phones-blocked-as- House-debates-election-laws/ 539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/ index.html A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries. Well now you have your answer. If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country. 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Many thanks Dorcas, Ali and Walu for your insights, Parliament reconvenes on Thursday to discuss the elections matter vide a special gazette notice, things are really elephant it seems. Looking at the situation i am asking myself: 1) Who is advising parliament on ICT related matters. I see KEPSA lobbying and engaging with parliament a lot on ICT related issues, what is their position on the same and how can industry and or stakeholders advise parliament?. For those who are following developments on social media you can attest to the fact that temperatures and really rising and that it is the business community that bears the brunt whenever parliament mishandles issues. We can choose the usual middle class path and hide our heads in the sand hoping things will sort themselves out or be proactive as stakeholders and engage before things get out of hand. As ICT professionals we have a responsibility to provide clarity on the contentious issues, i am looking forwad to seeing the position of KEPSA, ISACA and other industry associations on this matter. Regards On 12/21/16, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@ Dorcas, The simple answer is that you/we cant. And it has nothing to do with technology. The system will fail even if you hired Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Larry Page + the late Steve Jobs to code and run it ;-). So we should be discussing what point of failure, beyond which we must then repeat the polls in specific polling stations, wards, constituencies or counties. This has to do with Recovery Point Objectives (RPO) and Recovery Time Objectives (RTO) - for those in the business continuity discipline. The agreement to the repeat exercise will in itself then act as a deterrent for malicious failure, and perhaps lead to a surprisingly flawless electronic execution. Here is my full take on the issue. WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are
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| | | | WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are Nothing stops the opposition from abusing a failed system, but the incumbent always has an upper hand | |
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walu.
---- From: Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy
How can we intervene to circumvent any downtime to necessitate fail over to the manual transmission. At this point, we should be auditing the systems in place at IEBC as an ICT community. Can we take measures to be ready to show the IEBC infrastructure is resilient and guarantees the high availability desired. Best, Muthoni On Dec 21, 2016 5:03 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail. Read on:-http://www. businessdailyafrica.com/ Internet--phones-blocked-as- House-debates-election-laws/ 539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/ index.html A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries. Well now you have your answer. If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country.
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Things may well have got to this point because we allowed mediocrity to normalise in mainstream systems. A significant number of us are subservient to a master who has no business commanding us. Kenya, at 53, is in a moral crisis. The current political authorities are rather incapable of speaking to it, since much of the political order is designed to unseat the incumbents who benefit from a fundamentally flawed political and governance system, so that others amass the same gains. http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/nanjira/3225972-3490856-94mk1fz/inde... On 12/21/16, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Many thanks Dorcas, Ali and Walu for your insights,
Parliament reconvenes on Thursday to discuss the elections matter vide a special gazette notice, things are really elephant it seems.
Looking at the situation i am asking myself:
1) Who is advising parliament on ICT related matters. I see KEPSA lobbying and engaging with parliament a lot on ICT related issues, what is their position on the same and how can industry and or stakeholders advise parliament?. For those who are following developments on social media you can attest to the fact that temperatures and really rising and that it is the business community that bears the brunt whenever parliament mishandles issues.
We can choose the usual middle class path and hide our heads in the sand hoping things will sort themselves out or be proactive as stakeholders and engage before things get out of hand. As ICT professionals we have a responsibility to provide clarity on the contentious issues, i am looking forwad to seeing the position of KEPSA, ISACA and other industry associations on this matter.
Regards
On 12/21/16, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@ Dorcas, The simple answer is that you/we cant. And it has nothing to do with technology. The system will fail even if you hired Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Larry Page + the late Steve Jobs to code and run it ;-). So we should be discussing what point of failure, beyond which we must then repeat the polls in specific polling stations, wards, constituencies or counties. This has to do with Recovery Point Objectives (RPO) and Recovery Time Objectives (RTO) - for those in the business continuity discipline. The agreement to the repeat exercise will in itself then act as a deterrent for malicious failure, and perhaps lead to a surprisingly flawless electronic execution. Here is my full take on the issue. WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are
| | | | | |
|
| | | | WALUBENGO: On electronic polling, both Cord and Jubilee are Nothing stops the opposition from abusing a failed system, but the incumbent always has an upper hand | |
|
|
walu.
---- From: Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet, phones blocked as House debates election laws - Politics and policy
How can we intervene to circumvent any downtime to necessitate fail over to the manual transmission. At this point, we should be auditing the systems in place at IEBC as an ICT community. Can we take measures to be ready to show the IEBC infrastructure is resilient and guarantees the high availability desired. Best, Muthoni On Dec 21, 2016 5:03 AM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers Security personal yesterday blocked the internet, phones in and around parliament buildings during a special session to discuss the budget and amendments to the electoral law to allow for alternative manual transmission of electoral results in the event the electronic systems fail. Read on:-http://www. businessdailyafrica.com/ Internet--phones-blocked-as- House-debates-election-laws/ 539546-3493404-item-0-l9ge6u/ index.html A few weeks ago we discussed this issue of shutting down communication channels during crises across African countries. Well now you have your answer. If the government can shut down parliamentarians imagine what they can do to the rest of the country.
Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin. com/in/alihkassim
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Alex Watila -
Ali Hussein -
Baiju Shah -
Barrack Otieno -
Dorcas Muthoni -
Odhiambo Washington -
Tony White -
Walubengo J