Re: [kictanet] Seeking information on NEMIS
Grace I took the liberty to ask a senior manager at a leading Educational Publisher his thoughts about NEMIS. What he told me worries me. I’m copying his email below verbatim but protecting his identity. The Ministry of Education is capturing data of every learner and putting in this NEMIS system.That is why you have been reading parents are spending nights at Registration centres looking for Birth Certificates of their children which is a main requirement of NEMIS. On the service it looks good but for a student of Information Science, this is a dangerous exercise that is done in a vacuum. Kenya does not have a clear policy and data protection law(s). That should be what is put in place before the NEMIS system. The data they are getting is too much. They need both parents details (all from the sub-location) and telephone. What will make some crooks not access that then know XX is a man of means, go for your child, kidnap them them then starting seeking ransom from you? What protects our children from that data being sold to commercial entities for advertisement? What protects the child from their academic performance (it will be part of what NEMIS will be capturing) being used to stigmatize them in future? You can imagine you are vying for an office and someone has all your records. In a sense, we are not assured of privacy and confidentiality. That said, we are a very meek people who fear "fighting the Government" so this will go on then consequences will be dire. #GoFigure Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad
From: Grace Bomu via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: 17 May 2018 at 7:52:17 PM EAT To: info@campusciti.com Cc: Grace Bomu <nmutungu@gmail.com> Subject: [kictanet] Seeking information on NEMIS Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Dear listers, I am sure that those of you who are parents/guardians/caregivers here filled in the NEMIS (Ministry of Education System) forms from their children's schools at least once or twice as the school year or registration for exams.
It got me wondering what the system is really about and how children's data is protected. I scoured the internet for any policy/legal document and the one I came across was a user guide.
Would anyone, the Ministry, Authority, task force members or contractors please share more information on the purpose of the system as well as how parents and children can access it, how long the data will be kept, who is keeping it etc?
Regards,
-- Grace Mutung'u Skype: gracebomu @Bomu PGP ID : 0x33A3450F
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Thank you Ali. This is a very worrying trend- tying government services to digital identity and making them mandatory and then pulling in children while at it. Is there anyone from government on this list with a response? Il venerdì 18 maggio 2018, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> ha scritto:
Grace
I took the liberty to ask a senior manager at a leading Educational Publisher his thoughts about NEMIS. What he told me worries me.
I’m copying his email below verbatim but protecting his identity.
The Ministry of Education is capturing data of every learner and putting in this NEMIS system.That is why you have been reading parents are spending nights at Registration centres looking for Birth Certificates of their children which is a main requirement of NEMIS.
On the service it looks good but for a student of Information Science, this is a dangerous exercise that is done in a vacuum. Kenya does not have a clear policy and data protection law(s). That should be what is put in place before the NEMIS system. The data they are getting is too much. They need both parents details (all from the sub-location) and telephone.
What will make some crooks not access that then know XX is a man of means, go for your child, kidnap them them then starting seeking ransom from you? What protects our children from that data being sold to commercial entities for advertisement? What protects the child from their academic performance (it will be part of what NEMIS will be capturing) being used to stigmatize them in future? You can imagine you are vying for an office and someone has all your records. In a sense, we are not assured of privacy and confidentiality.
That said, we are a very meek people who fear "fighting the Government" so this will go on then consequences will be dire.
#GoFigure
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
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*From:* Grace Bomu via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Date:* 17 May 2018 at 7:52:17 PM EAT *To:* info@campusciti.com *Cc:* Grace Bomu <nmutungu@gmail.com> *Subject:* *[kictanet] Seeking information on NEMIS* *Reply-To:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
Dear listers, I am sure that those of you who are parents/guardians/caregivers here filled in the NEMIS (Ministry of Education System) forms from their children's schools at least once or twice as the school year or registration for exams.
It got me wondering what the system is really about and how children's data is protected. I scoured the internet for any policy/legal document and the one I came across was a user guide.
Would anyone, the Ministry, Authority, task force members or contractors please share more information on the purpose of the system as well as how parents and children can access it, how long the data will be kept, who is keeping it etc?
Regards,
-- Grace Mutung'u Skype: gracebomu @Bomu PGP ID : 0x33A3450F
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Hi Grace, We are all concerned with the transparency, the accountability and management of data throughout the region as there are very few policies and regulations that have put in place. There is a need to have this core set of data protection and management policies needs to define transparency and accountability, further outline how the secure management of data with the right procedures and processes that have to be put inplace, monitored and ratified by an independent organisation. What does this mean for the community that is flying the flag of digital transformation, what does this take away from the current situation and finally what will it add to the future generations. Have an excellent week. Best Regards, Baiju *Baiju Shah** |*Managing Partner* |* Phone: +254 701691570 ** *|*Mobile: +254 787332247 *|* Skype: baijushah* |* Email: baiju@telemedia.co.ke* | * *Telemedia Africa Ltd* *. * The information contained within this e-mail and any attachments ("Email") may contain legally privileged, proprietary and confidential information intended solely for the recipients listed as addresses. If you are not an addressee, any review, dissemination, disclosure, copying, distribution, retention, communication, or use of the contents of this Email is strictly prohibited. If this Email is received in error, immediately notify the original sender by return email or telephone Telemedia Africa Ltd at +254 787332247, and delete this Email. Telemedia Africa warrants neither the accuracy nor the completeness of the information contained in this Email. On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Grace Bomu via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thank you Ali. This is a very worrying trend- tying government services to digital identity and making them mandatory and then pulling in children while at it. Is there anyone from government on this list with a response?
Il venerdì 18 maggio 2018, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> ha scritto:
Grace
I took the liberty to ask a senior manager at a leading Educational Publisher his thoughts about NEMIS. What he told me worries me.
I’m copying his email below verbatim but protecting his identity.
The Ministry of Education is capturing data of every learner and putting in this NEMIS system.That is why you have been reading parents are spending nights at Registration centres looking for Birth Certificates of their children which is a main requirement of NEMIS.
On the service it looks good but for a student of Information Science, this is a dangerous exercise that is done in a vacuum. Kenya does not have a clear policy and data protection law(s). That should be what is put in place before the NEMIS system. The data they are getting is too much. They need both parents details (all from the sub-location) and telephone.
What will make some crooks not access that then know XX is a man of means, go for your child, kidnap them them then starting seeking ransom from you? What protects our children from that data being sold to commercial entities for advertisement? What protects the child from their academic performance (it will be part of what NEMIS will be capturing) being used to stigmatize them in future? You can imagine you are vying for an office and someone has all your records. In a sense, we are not assured of privacy and confidentiality.
That said, we are a very meek people who fear "fighting the Government" so this will go on then consequences will be dire.
#GoFigure
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
Sent from my iPad
*From:* Grace Bomu via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Date:* 17 May 2018 at 7:52:17 PM EAT *To:* info@campusciti.com *Cc:* Grace Bomu <nmutungu@gmail.com> *Subject:* *[kictanet] Seeking information on NEMIS* *Reply-To:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Dear listers, I am sure that those of you who are parents/guardians/caregivers here filled in the NEMIS (Ministry of Education System) forms from their children's schools at least once or twice as the school year or registration for exams.
It got me wondering what the system is really about and how children's data is protected. I scoured the internet for any policy/legal document and the one I came across was a user guide.
Would anyone, the Ministry, Authority, task force members or contractors please share more information on the purpose of the system as well as how parents and children can access it, how long the data will be kept, who is keeping it etc?
Regards,
-- Grace Mutung'u Skype: gracebomu @Bomu PGP ID : 0x33A3450F
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