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Listers The issue of Net Neutrality is becoming pretty hot.. Marc Andreessen sparked a furious tweet storm by suggesting that India would have been better off under British rule because of the recent decision on Internet pricing and 'free' access. See link below. Africa needs to define its own Net Neutrality rules..And this needs to be done yesterday. Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <director@ipop.org.pk> Date: Feb 10, 2016 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [global-nn] Colonialism in the Digital World To: <azrak_khan@hotmail.com>, <global-nn@lists.riseup.net> Cc: Famed venture capitalist criticized India net neutrality rule and tweeted India would have done better economically under the British Empire. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-10/marc-andreessen-pro-coloni... Arzak Sent by Outlook <http://taps.io/outlookmobile> for Android
Thanks Ali for this. I'd previously written in a Nation Newspaper article that Net Neutrality was Neo Colonialism. There you have it from the horse's mouth. Facebook itself. I must say that is very shameful and immoral too On Feb 10, 2016 7:20 PM, "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers
The issue of Net Neutrality is becoming pretty hot.. Marc Andreessen sparked a furious tweet storm by suggesting that India would have been better off under British rule because of the recent decision on Internet pricing and 'free' access.
See link below.
Africa needs to define its own Net Neutrality rules..And this needs to be done yesterday.
Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <director@ipop.org.pk> Date: Feb 10, 2016 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [global-nn] Colonialism in the Digital World To: <azrak_khan@hotmail.com>, <global-nn@lists.riseup.net> Cc:
Famed venture capitalist criticized India net neutrality rule and tweeted India would have done better economically under the British Empire.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-10/marc-andreessen-pro-coloni...
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Mwendwa, I didn't get you first time around, but its beginning to dawn on me the issues with the FreeBasics and other similar offering. Keep on doing the good and vigilant advocacy to ensure we ultimately get an Internet for*everybody * not subsets depending on your pockets. Regards On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thanks Ali for this. I'd previously written in a Nation Newspaper article that Net Neutrality was Neo Colonialism. There you have it from the horse's mouth. Facebook itself. I must say that is very shameful and immoral too On Feb 10, 2016 7:20 PM, "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers
The issue of Net Neutrality is becoming pretty hot.. Marc Andreessen sparked a furious tweet storm by suggesting that India would have been better off under British rule because of the recent decision on Internet pricing and 'free' access.
See link below.
Africa needs to define its own Net Neutrality rules..And this needs to be done yesterday.
Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <director@ipop.org.pk> Date: Feb 10, 2016 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [global-nn] Colonialism in the Digital World To: <azrak_khan@hotmail.com>, <global-nn@lists.riseup.net> Cc:
Famed venture capitalist criticized India net neutrality rule and tweeted India would have done better economically under the British Empire.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-10/marc-andreessen-pro-coloni...
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Fascinating! This inspired me to do a search on electronic colonialism and digital colonialism. Yesterday, I attended the launch of an animation degree programme that will be offered by USIU who are partnering with the French government and a French animation school. I think it's a wonderful thing but now, having known about this new type of colonialism, I can't help but wonder... Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thanks Ali for this. I'd previously written in a Nation Newspaper article that Net Neutrality was Neo Colonialism. There you have it from the horse's mouth. Facebook itself. I must say that is very shameful and immoral too On Feb 10, 2016 7:20 PM, "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers
The issue of Net Neutrality is becoming pretty hot.. Marc Andreessen sparked a furious tweet storm by suggesting that India would have been better off under British rule because of the recent decision on Internet pricing and 'free' access.
See link below.
Africa needs to define its own Net Neutrality rules..And this needs to be done yesterday.
Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <director@ipop.org.pk> Date: Feb 10, 2016 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [global-nn] Colonialism in the Digital World To: <azrak_khan@hotmail.com>, <global-nn@lists.riseup.net> Cc:
Famed venture capitalist criticized India net neutrality rule and tweeted India would have done better economically under the British Empire.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-10/marc-andreessen-pro-coloni...
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At the end of the day, we all have our biases and interests. It is also said that Nations do not have permanent allies, but permanent interests. As for telecom operators and Internet firms, them providing a service out of their own interest should thus not be seen as necessarily bad, or evil. What regulators and policy makers should purpose themselves is whether businesses' interests align with those of consumers, and are not detrimental for consumers. At the end of the day, we all work somewhere, offering a service or selling goods, and I can assure you that few of us do this entirely out of public interest. We deal with the public out of our own interest, and are employed out of our employers interest, and the public gets services and goods from us out of their own interest. Thus, it is important to consider merits and demerits, rather than throwing the baby out with the bath water in the case of possibility of demerits, even when merits outweigh demerits. On Thursday, 11 February 2016, Mildred Achoch via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Fascinating! This inspired me to do a search on electronic colonialism and digital colonialism. Yesterday, I attended the launch of an animation degree programme that will be offered by USIU who are partnering with the French government and a French animation school. I think it's a wonderful thing but now, having known about this new type of colonialism, I can't help but wonder...
Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke');>> wrote:
Thanks Ali for this. I'd previously written in a Nation Newspaper article that Net Neutrality was Neo Colonialism. There you have it from the horse's mouth. Facebook itself. I must say that is very shameful and immoral too On Feb 10, 2016 7:20 PM, "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','isoc@lists.my.co.ke');>> wrote:
Listers
The issue of Net Neutrality is becoming pretty hot.. Marc Andreessen sparked a furious tweet storm by suggesting that India would have been better off under British rule because of the recent decision on Internet pricing and 'free' access.
See link below.
Africa needs to define its own Net Neutrality rules..And this needs to be done yesterday.
Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <director@ipop.org.pk <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','director@ipop.org.pk');>> Date: Feb 10, 2016 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [global-nn] Colonialism in the Digital World To: <azrak_khan@hotmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','azrak_khan@hotmail.com');>>, < global-nn@lists.riseup.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','global-nn@lists.riseup.net');>> Cc:
Famed venture capitalist criticized India net neutrality rule and tweeted India would have done better economically under the British Empire.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-10/marc-andreessen-pro-coloni...
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On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
The issue of Net Neutrality is becoming pretty hot.. Marc Andreessen sparked a furious tweet storm by suggesting that India would have been better off under British rule because of the recent decision on Internet pricing and 'free' access.
See link below.
Africa needs to define its own Net Neutrality rules..And this needs to be done yesterday.
Guys such as Marc Andreessen well know that enforcing Net neutrality is the right thing to do. In cases like these, they're just speaking out of their own self interest. Which isn't surprising at all.
The controversial tweets were later deleted by Andreessen, as more Indians began venting their anger on Twitter. “I now withdraw from all future discussions of Indian economics and politics, and leave them to people with more knowledge and experience,” Andreessen said on his Twitter feed Wednesday. His last statement is admirable. This case points out someone has to look out for the interests of Kenya and innovators must view their offering as a potential solution but perhaps not the solution that Kenya or any other country needs. Just as there is dumping of substandard goods in import of manufacturing industry, there is potential for digital dumping too! India has chosen to look out for its interests through the blockage. Blessed day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". On Wednesday, 10 February 2016, 22:19, Joseph Wayodi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
The issue of Net Neutrality is becoming pretty hot.. Marc Andreessen sparked a furious tweet storm by suggesting that India would have been better off under British rule because of the recent decision on Internet pricing and 'free' access.
See link below.
Africa needs to define its own Net Neutrality rules..And this needs to be done yesterday.
Guys such as Marc Andreessen well know that enforcing Net neutrality is the right thing to do. In cases like these, they're just speaking out of their own self interest. Which isn't surprising at all. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/wangarikabiru%40yahoo.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
I just wanted to say that we at Facebook STRONGLY reject the sentiments expressed by Marc Andreesen last night regarding India. He does not speak for us. Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315<tel:+44%20(0)%20771%20156%201315> 10 Brock Street | London<x-apple-data-detectors://0/1> | NW1 3FG ebeleokobi@fb.com<mailto:ebeleokobi@fb.com> [6F376569-CC77-422B-BAD3-794055B1E02B] On Feb 10, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Listers The issue of Net Neutrality is becoming pretty hot.. Marc Andreessen sparked a furious tweet storm by suggesting that India would have been better off under British rule because of the recent decision on Internet pricing and 'free' access. See link below. Africa needs to define its own Net Neutrality rules..And this needs to be done yesterday. Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <director@ipop.org.pk<mailto:director@ipop.org.pk>> Date: Feb 10, 2016 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [global-nn] Colonialism in the Digital World To: <azrak_khan@hotmail.com<mailto:azrak_khan@hotmail.com>>, <global-nn@lists.riseup.net<mailto:global-nn@lists.riseup.net>> Cc: Famed venture capitalist criticized India net neutrality rule and tweeted India would have done better economically under the British Empire. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-10/marc-andreessen-pro-colonialism-tweet-riles-up-india-tech-world<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bloomberg.com_news_articles_2016-2D02-2D10_marc-2Dandreessen-2Dpro-2Dcolonialism-2Dtweet-2Driles-2Dup-2Dindia-2Dtech-2Dworld&d=CwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=XwU3qvaNSsPJD-5aU8mNXGacNYPy-SD30XdipHN1R4w&s=77-JDP0Nl2jKxKw1em2BkqOpLEza-Iv2hJnumv2Njgg&e=> Arzak Sent by Outlook<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__taps.io_outlookmobile&d=CwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=XwU3qvaNSsPJD-5aU8mNXGacNYPy-SD30XdipHN1R4w&s=3nYHBOlwi42wmk2D2gL98FICAniXZiyodhlVuPSKVKE&e=> for Android _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.kictanet.or.ke_mailman_listinfo_kictanet&d=CwICAg&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=XwU3qvaNSsPJD-5aU8mNXGacNYPy-SD30XdipHN1R4w&s=oKGywMNcDczUDS6QfCHCwImLN1oR0iI7BJscKntvang&e= Unsubscribe or change your options at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.kictanet.or.ke_mailman_options_kictanet_ebeleokobi-2540fb.com&d=CwICAg&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=XwU3qvaNSsPJD-5aU8mNXGacNYPy-SD30XdipHN1R4w&s=b1jTy14Q9asxjoCTCSjT5lioCRvuSgbxfNJqTn3vrIY&e= The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
I totally Agree with you Ali and I congratulate the Indian Public!! just incase you did not get the story,its here.... http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/trai-bats-for-net-neutrality-internet-p... Kind Regards, *'Chance Favors the prepared mind'* - Louis Pasteur On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Ebele Okobi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I just wanted to say that we at Facebook STRONGLY reject the sentiments expressed by Marc Andreesen last night regarding India.
He does not speak for us.
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On Feb 10, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
The issue of Net Neutrality is becoming pretty hot.. Marc Andreessen sparked a furious tweet storm by suggesting that India would have been better off under British rule because of the recent decision on Internet pricing and 'free' access.
See link below.
Africa needs to define its own Net Neutrality rules..And this needs to be done yesterday.
Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <director@ipop.org.pk> Date: Feb 10, 2016 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [global-nn] Colonialism in the Digital World To: <azrak_khan@hotmail.com>, <global-nn@lists.riseup.net> Cc:
Famed venture capitalist criticized India net neutrality rule and tweeted India would have done better economically under the British Empire.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-10/marc-andreessen-pro-coloni... <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bloomberg.com_news_articles_2016-2D02-2D10_marc-2Dandreessen-2Dpro-2Dcolonialism-2Dtweet-2Driles-2Dup-2Dindia-2Dtech-2Dworld&d=CwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=XwU3qvaNSsPJD-5aU8mNXGacNYPy-SD30XdipHN1R4w&s=77-JDP0Nl2jKxKw1em2BkqOpLEza-Iv2hJnumv2Njgg&e=>
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All Clearly the issue of Net Neutrality is beginning to get the attention it needs. Yet...it's still so misunderstood. Fortunately learning institutions like Strathmore (through bright young minds like Nanjira) are beginning to tackle this issue. They all need our support and input. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 11 Feb 2016, at 12:21 AM, Judy Okite via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I totally Agree with you Ali and I congratulate the Indian Public!!
just incase you did not get the story,its here....
http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/trai-bats-for-net-neutrality-internet-p...
Kind Regards,
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On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Ebele Okobi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: I just wanted to say that we at Facebook STRONGLY reject the sentiments expressed by Marc Andreesen last night regarding India.
He does not speak for us.
Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 10 Brock Street | London | NW1 3FG ebeleokobi@fb.com
On Feb 10, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
The issue of Net Neutrality is becoming pretty hot.. Marc Andreessen sparked a furious tweet storm by suggesting that India would have been better off under British rule because of the recent decision on Internet pricing and 'free' access.
See link below.
Africa needs to define its own Net Neutrality rules..And this needs to be done yesterday.
Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113
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Famed venture capitalist criticized India net neutrality rule and tweeted India would have done better economically under the British Empire.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-10/marc-andreessen-pro-coloni...
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https://info.internet.org/en/story/where-weve-launched/ Does this mean that Kenya and the other countries are gullible, have sold out or they have seen ahead of the times? I really wish our more learned tech friends here would enlighten us with the interests for Kenya - that is if you understand. We know that the players in discussion may be your friends too or business players. Otherwise Kivuva continues to be a lone rattling parrot .... Blessed day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". On Thursday, 11 February 2016, 1:43, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: All Clearly the issue of Net Neutrality is beginning to get the attention it needs. Yet...it's still so misunderstood. Fortunately learning institutions like Strathmore (through bright young minds like Nanjira) are beginning to tackle this issue. They all need our support and input. Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad On 11 Feb 2016, at 12:21 AM, Judy Okite via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: I totally Agree with you Ali and I congratulate the Indian Public!! just incase you did not get the story,its here.... http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/trai-bats-for-net-neutrality-internet-p... Kind Regards, 'Chance Favors the prepared mind' - Louis Pasteur On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Ebele Okobi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: I just wanted to say that we at Facebook STRONGLY reject the sentiments expressed by Marc Andreesen last night regarding India. He does not speak for us. Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa m. +44 (0) 771 156 131510 Brock Street | London | NW1 3FGebeleokobi@fb.com On Feb 10, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: ListersThe issue of Net Neutrality is becoming pretty hot.. Marc Andreessen sparked a furious tweet storm by suggesting that India would have been better off under British rule because of the recent decision on Internet pricing and 'free' access. See link below.Africa needs to define its own Net Neutrality rules..And this needs to be done yesterday.Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <director@ipop.org.pk> Date: Feb 10, 2016 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [global-nn] Colonialism in the Digital World To: <azrak_khan@hotmail.com>, <global-nn@lists.riseup.net> Cc: Famed venture capitalist criticized India net neutrality rule and tweeted India would have done better economically under the British Empire. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-10/marc-andreessen-pro-coloni... 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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/wangarikabiru%40yahoo.... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Wangari This list has been consistent on the issue of Net Neutrality. We have urged policy makers to make this a priority. This is also on the ICT Wish List presented to the new team at the ICT Ministry. We are making steps. Slow ones for sure but I have faith in the new team to elevate this issue to the importance it deserves. However some of these issues can become non-issues very quickly if we provide affordable connectivity, get the Universal Service Fund off its fat behind and get moving in the right direction. Nature dislikes a vacuum and like anything else when we fail to provide an affordable alternative foreign players will come in to entice you with 'free' everything. Lets be clear:- THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH. Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:57 AM, WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
https://info.internet.org/en/story/where-weve-launched/
Does this mean that Kenya and the other countries are gullible, have sold out or they have seen ahead of the times?
I really wish our more learned tech friends here would enlighten us with the interests for Kenya - that is if you understand. We know that the players in discussion may be your friends too or business players. Otherwise Kivuva continues to be a lone rattling parrot ....
Blessed day.
Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
On Thursday, 11 February 2016, 1:43, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
All
Clearly the issue of Net Neutrality is beginning to get the attention it needs. Yet...it's still so misunderstood. Fortunately learning institutions like Strathmore (through bright young minds like Nanjira) are beginning to tackle this issue. They all need our support and input.
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
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On 11 Feb 2016, at 12:21 AM, Judy Okite via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I totally Agree with you Ali and I congratulate the Indian Public!!
just incase you did not get the story,its here....
http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/trai-bats-for-net-neutrality-internet-p...
Kind Regards,
*'Chance Favors the prepared mind'* - Louis Pasteur
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Ebele Okobi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I just wanted to say that we at Facebook STRONGLY reject the sentiments expressed by Marc Andreesen last night regarding India.
He does not speak for us.
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On Feb 10, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers The issue of Net Neutrality is becoming pretty hot.. Marc Andreessen sparked a furious tweet storm by suggesting that India would have been better off under British rule because of the recent decision on Internet pricing and 'free' access. See link below. Africa needs to define its own Net Neutrality rules..And this needs to be done yesterday. Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <director@ipop.org.pk> Date: Feb 10, 2016 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [global-nn] Colonialism in the Digital World To: <azrak_khan@hotmail.com>, <global-nn@lists.riseup.net> Cc:
Famed venture capitalist criticized India net neutrality rule and tweeted India would have done better economically under the British Empire.
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I just realized that I forgot to paste this response to the Andreesen tweet from our CEO, Mark Zuckerberg. I do think there is much room to debate over whether zero-rating programs are a net benefit, but at Facebook, we all agree that Mr. Andreesen’s remarks were wrong and absolutely do not represent our company. Many, many of Facebook’s employees, like Akua and I, are also from countries that can be described as post-colonial (including a large percentage from India), and you should know that the reaction within the company, from our colleagues, has been swift and angry. https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10102645335962321 "I want to respond to Marc Andreessen's comments about India yesterday. I found the comments deeply upsetting, and they do not represent the way Facebook or I think at all. India has been personally important to me and Facebook. Early on in my thinking about our mission, I traveled to India and was inspired by the humanity, spirit and values of the people. It solidified my understanding that when all people have the power to share their experiences, the entire world will make progress. Facebook stands for helping to connect people and giving them voice to shape their own future. But to shape the future we need to understand the past. As our community in India has grown, I've gained a deeper appreciation for the need to understand India's history and culture. I've been inspired by how much progress India has made in building a strong nation and the largest democracy in the world, and I look forward to strengthening my connection to the country." [Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.png@01C8F888.8FCCE630] Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 2 Stephen St | London | W1T 1AN ebeleokobi@fb.com From: Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi@fb.com<mailto:ebeleokobi@fb.com>> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 8:16 PM To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Re: [global-nn] Colonialism in the Digital World I just wanted to say that we at Facebook STRONGLY reject the sentiments expressed by Marc Andreesen last night regarding India. He does not speak for us. Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315<tel:+44%20(0)%20771%20156%201315> 10 Brock Street | London<x-apple-data-detectors://0/1> | NW1 3FG ebeleokobi@fb.com<mailto:ebeleokobi@fb.com> [6F376569-CC77-422B-BAD3-794055B1E02B] On Feb 10, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Listers The issue of Net Neutrality is becoming pretty hot.. Marc Andreessen sparked a furious tweet storm by suggesting that India would have been better off under British rule because of the recent decision on Internet pricing and 'free' access. See link below. Africa needs to define its own Net Neutrality rules..And this needs to be done yesterday. Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <director@ipop.org.pk<mailto:director@ipop.org.pk>> Date: Feb 10, 2016 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [global-nn] Colonialism in the Digital World To: <azrak_khan@hotmail.com<mailto:azrak_khan@hotmail.com>>, <global-nn@lists.riseup.net<mailto:global-nn@lists.riseup.net>> Cc: Famed venture capitalist criticized India net neutrality rule and tweeted India would have done better economically under the British Empire. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-10/marc-andreessen-pro-colonialism-tweet-riles-up-india-tech-world<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bloomberg.com_news_articles_2016-2D02-2D10_marc-2Dandreessen-2Dpro-2Dcolonialism-2Dtweet-2Driles-2Dup-2Dindia-2Dtech-2Dworld&d=CwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=XwU3qvaNSsPJD-5aU8mNXGacNYPy-SD30XdipHN1R4w&s=77-JDP0Nl2jKxKw1em2BkqOpLEza-Iv2hJnumv2Njgg&e=> Arzak Sent by Outlook<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__taps.io_outlookmobile&d=CwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=XwU3qvaNSsPJD-5aU8mNXGacNYPy-SD30XdipHN1R4w&s=3nYHBOlwi42wmk2D2gL98FICAniXZiyodhlVuPSKVKE&e=> for Android _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.kictanet.or.ke_mailman_listinfo_kictanet&d=CwICAg&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=XwU3qvaNSsPJD-5aU8mNXGacNYPy-SD30XdipHN1R4w&s=oKGywMNcDczUDS6QfCHCwImLN1oR0iI7BJscKntvang&e= Unsubscribe or change your options at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.kictanet.or.ke_mailman_options_kictanet_ebeleokobi-2540fb.com&d=CwICAg&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=XwU3qvaNSsPJD-5aU8mNXGacNYPy-SD30XdipHN1R4w&s=b1jTy14Q9asxjoCTCSjT5lioCRvuSgbxfNJqTn3vrIY&e= The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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Well put Ebele. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 11 Feb 2016, at 7:23 PM, Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi@fb.com> wrote:
I just realized that I forgot to paste this response to the Andreesen tweet from our CEO, Mark Zuckerberg. I do think there is much room to debate over whether zero-rating programs are a net benefit, but at Facebook, we all agree that Mr. Andreesen’s remarks were wrong and absolutely do not represent our company. Many, many of Facebook’s employees, like Akua and I, are also from countries that can be described as post-colonial (including a large percentage from India), and you should know that the reaction within the company, from our colleagues, has been swift and angry.
https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10102645335962321
"I want to respond to Marc Andreessen's comments about India yesterday. I found the comments deeply upsetting, and they do not represent the way Facebook or I think at all.
India has been personally important to me and Facebook. Early on in my thinking about our mission, I traveled to India and was inspired by the humanity, spirit and values of the people. It solidified my understanding that when all people have the power to share their experiences, the entire world will make progress.
Facebook stands for helping to connect people and giving them voice to shape their own future. But to shape the future we need to understand the past. As our community in India has grown, I've gained a deeper appreciation for the need to understand India's history and culture. I've been inspired by how much progress India has made in building a strong nation and the largest democracy in the world, and I look forward to strengthening my connection to the country."
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From: Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi@fb.com> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 8:16 PM To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Re: [global-nn] Colonialism in the Digital World
I just wanted to say that we at Facebook STRONGLY reject the sentiments expressed by Marc Andreesen last night regarding India.
He does not speak for us.
Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 10 Brock Street | London | NW1 3FG ebeleokobi@fb.com
On Feb 10, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
The issue of Net Neutrality is becoming pretty hot.. Marc Andreessen sparked a furious tweet storm by suggesting that India would have been better off under British rule because of the recent decision on Internet pricing and 'free' access.
See link below.
Africa needs to define its own Net Neutrality rules..And this needs to be done yesterday.
Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <director@ipop.org.pk> Date: Feb 10, 2016 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [global-nn] Colonialism in the Digital World To: <azrak_khan@hotmail.com>, <global-nn@lists.riseup.net> Cc:
Famed venture capitalist criticized India net neutrality rule and tweeted India would have done better economically under the British Empire.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-10/marc-andreessen-pro-coloni...
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Ali Hussein -
Dennis Kioko -
Ebele Okobi -
Joseph Wayodi -
Judy Okite -
Mildred Achoch -
Mwendwa Kivuva -
Ngigi Waithaka -
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