PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS
Greetings Listers, Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation. It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns: a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya? b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns? c) What are the implications on the electoral process? d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens? Looking forward to your active participation. Best regards, Ronald Ojino
Hi There, What follows are my personal views… To question (a) – I would phrase the question differently. Is there a fear that there may be an attempt to shut down the Internet in Kenya – 100% I would say that there may be such an attempt or a call for such at some point in the future – and I would say the same applies in most countries. However, the bigger question is, would it actually succeed, and that is where I think there is much more room for doubt. The only way for such a shutdown to happen would be through orders that I think would get challenged in court and would probably get tossed pretty quickly – the Kenyan constitution has a lot of things to say about rights and I think it would be pretty tough to make a case strong enough to violate the rights of millions of people and have the courts agree with it. (well, I like to believe that!). Secondly – shutting down the Internet is something we need to define in terms of this question – to evaluate the likelihood of it happening. Look at it this way: a.) Could there be an attempt to order the shutdown of social media – yes – but that raises the question about which providers have the facility to differentiate social media vs other content. In the case of mobile providers this differentiation capability may well exist and it could be a fairly simple process. In the case of a wholesale provider who believes that packets are packets and does not get involved in what content is inside those packets, it becomes a very different story. In the former case – an instruction to shut down social media may be enough if the mobile provider felt threatened enough to comply. In the latter case – it may well force a showdown of shut down *everything* or shutdown *nothing*, and shutting down everything could be very risky – because it may well have international implications on traffic flowing *through* the country rather than traffic just in the country. (And this is why the argument for net neutrality is so important, the more providers invest in technologies to zero rate, to do deep packet inspection, to examine what traffic people are using and where, the more facilities they put in place to allow them to be ordered to screw with particular types of traffic) b.) Could there be an order to shutdown EVERYTHING – well – there could – but I have serious doubts about such an order succeeding – because of the wider ramifications of it. To question (d) – that would very much dependent on who shut down what and who resisted it. If it was social media that was blocked for example – it would not take very long to bypass the blocks through use of a million and one technologies available to do so – as has been done the world over when this stuff has been tried before. Anyone who believes that these options are only available to the tech savvy is also… confused – because the technologies to VPN and bypass such specific blocks have been evolving to counter this threat at such a rate that they are now wide spread and available to anyone easily. If they were to shutdown *everything* - the options are far more limited – but I just don’t see that happening for all the reasons I’ve stated above. Andrew From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+andrew.alston=liquidtelecom.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ronald Ojino via kictanet Sent: 27 June 2017 08:30 To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke Subject: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS Greetings Listers, Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation. It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns: a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya? b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns? c) What are the implications on the electoral process? d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens? Looking forward to your active participation. Best regards, Ronald Ojino
Ronald and listers Thanks for kicking off this discussion. I have a question rather than a comment. Is the current global trend towards the Balkanization (read creating 'National Borders' around the internet as recommended by countries such as China and Russia and even the U.K.) of the Internet a form of Internet Shutdown? Isn't creating borders the worst sort of shutdown? Ali Hussein Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 27 Jun 2017, at 8:34 AM, Andrew Alston via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi There,
What follows are my personal views…
To question (a) –
I would phrase the question differently. Is there a fear that there may be an attempt to shut down the Internet in Kenya – 100% I would say that there may be such an attempt or a call for such at some point in the future – and I would say the same applies in most countries. However, the bigger question is, would it actually succeed, and that is where I think there is much more room for doubt. The only way for such a shutdown to happen would be through orders that I think would get challenged in court and would probably get tossed pretty quickly – the Kenyan constitution has a lot of things to say about rights and I think it would be pretty tough to make a case strong enough to violate the rights of millions of people and have the courts agree with it. (well, I like to believe that!). Secondly – shutting down the Internet is something we need to define in terms of this question – to evaluate the likelihood of it happening. Look at it this way:
a.) Could there be an attempt to order the shutdown of social media – yes – but that raises the question about which providers have the facility to differentiate social media vs other content. In the case of mobile providers this differentiation capability may well exist and it could be a fairly simple process. In the case of a wholesale provider who believes that packets are packets and does not get involved in what content is inside those packets, it becomes a very different story. In the former case – an instruction to shut down social media may be enough if the mobile provider felt threatened enough to comply. In the latter case – it may well force a showdown of shut down *everything* or shutdown *nothing*, and shutting down everything could be very risky – because it may well have international implications on traffic flowing *through* the country rather than traffic just in the country. (And this is why the argument for net neutrality is so important, the more providers invest in technologies to zero rate, to do deep packet inspection, to examine what traffic people are using and where, the more facilities they put in place to allow them to be ordered to screw with particular types of traffic) b.) Could there be an order to shutdown EVERYTHING – well – there could – but I have serious doubts about such an order succeeding – because of the wider ramifications of it.
To question (d) – that would very much dependent on who shut down what and who resisted it. If it was social media that was blocked for example – it would not take very long to bypass the blocks through use of a million and one technologies available to do so – as has been done the world over when this stuff has been tried before. Anyone who believes that these options are only available to the tech savvy is also… confused – because the technologies to VPN and bypass such specific blocks have been evolving to counter this threat at such a rate that they are now wide spread and available to anyone easily. If they were to shutdown *everything* - the options are far more limited – but I just don’t see that happening for all the reasons I’ve stated above.
Andrew
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Greetings Listers, Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation. It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns: a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya? b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns? c) What are the implications on the electoral process? d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens? Looking forward to your active participation. Best regards, Ronald Ojino _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
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I don't think there's a real fear for a shutdown- complete or partial. Why? 1. Why shutdown the internet when you can manipulate the information accessible to the populace? 2. Both sides of the political divide benefit immensely from the business of fake news (we shall discuss this in detail tomorrow). Shutting down the internet (especially Facebook) would be shutting down one of the main campaign strategies hence possible loss of the Trump factor. If there was to be a shutdown however, it wouldn't be a government document worded 'Order to Shut down the Internet'. Unlikely. Initiatives such as this https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.standardmedia.co.ke/mobile/amp/article/2001... form a convenient background for an internet shutdown. One has to remember that the rights at the core of Internet Access (Access to Information, Freedom of Expression, Freedom of Association) are not inalienable rights (Article 25 of the Constitution). A 'public order' or 'public safety' justification is therefore feasible through legislation. Effect - for a good percentage of the population will be zero. VPN is too easily accessible now. Ugandan grandmothers now know what VPN is (WhatsApp is THAT important). A shutdown Might actually backfire on an incumbent government seeking re-election. You don't need one more reason to enrage potential voters in the run up to elections unless you intend to win elections through means other than secret ballot. 😊 At the end of the day, when a government enforces a blackout during elections- could it be that someone is cleaning the ballot boxes? On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 at 08:33 Ronald Ojino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Greetings Listers,
Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation.
It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns:
a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya?
b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns?
c) What are the implications on the electoral process?
d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens?
Looking forward to your active participation.
Best regards,
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What are the Key actors saying? http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/01/13/kenya-will-not-shut-down-internet-... "We are using all possible means not to reach a level where the country can be in tension and force us maybe to take a drastic step," director general Francis Wangusi told the media at CA headquarters. "Sometimes, when tension is so high, the government may decide to take an action for purposes of protecting the people of Kenya from any adverse outcomes caused by those who want to cause trouble." ICT minister Joe Mucheru was quick to say, "I can tell you categorically that is not government policy. It is not our expectation the country will be in the position to shut down internet services. We are a digital country and that is not our intention. It is not even a remote fall back position." http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/magazines/Kenya-warned--risk-shutting-dow... "We hope we will not get there. Unless it gets out of hand, we do not see an Internet shutdown happening," Mr Ben Gituku, CA Chairman. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh On 27 June 2017 at 12:23, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I don't think there's a real fear for a shutdown- complete or partial. Why?
1. Why shutdown the internet when you can manipulate the information accessible to the populace?
2. Both sides of the political divide benefit immensely from the business of fake news (we shall discuss this in detail tomorrow). Shutting down the internet (especially Facebook) would be shutting down one of the main campaign strategies hence possible loss of the Trump factor.
If there was to be a shutdown however, it wouldn't be a government document worded 'Order to Shut down the Internet'. Unlikely. Initiatives such as this https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.standardmedia.co.ke/mobile/amp/article/2001... form a convenient background for an internet shutdown.
One has to remember that the rights at the core of Internet Access (Access to Information, Freedom of Expression, Freedom of Association) are not inalienable rights (Article 25 of the Constitution). A 'public order' or 'public safety' justification is therefore feasible through legislation.
Effect - for a good percentage of the population will be zero. VPN is too easily accessible now. Ugandan grandmothers now know what VPN is (WhatsApp is THAT important). A shutdown Might actually backfire on an incumbent government seeking re-election. You don't need one more reason to enrage potential voters in the run up to elections unless you intend to win elections through means other than secret ballot.
At the end of the day, when a government enforces a blackout during elections- could it be that someone is cleaning the ballot boxes?
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 at 08:33 Ronald Ojino via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Greetings Listers,
Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation.
It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns:
a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya?
b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns?
c) What are the implications on the electoral process?
d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens?
Looking forward to your active participation.
Best regards,
Ronald Ojino
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Good afternoon, If there is a shutdown, will the transmission of election results be affected? Regards, From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ronald Ojino via kictanet Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:30 AM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke Subject: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS Greetings Listers, Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation. It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns: a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya? b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns? c) What are the implications on the electoral process? d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens? Looking forward to your active participation. Best regards, Ronald Ojino --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com
Hey listers, I think we need to know what government officials mean by 'things getting out of hand.' I find shutting down the internet or social media to be such a 'scapegoat move' in the sense that it does not address why elements in the state do not feel like part of the social fabric that forms the nation their in. The fact that people in government quarters have been heard mentioning it means it is something they have thought of at some point. It would have been better if they concentrated in creating a nation state where there is little fear of inter-ethnic electoral violence. On 27/06/2017, Watila Alex via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good afternoon,
If there is a shutdown, will the transmission of election results be affected?
Regards,
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ronald Ojino via kictanet Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:30 AM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke Subject: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS
Greetings Listers,
Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation.
It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns:
a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya?
b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns?
c) What are the implications on the electoral process?
d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens?
Looking forward to your active participation.
Best regards,
Ronald Ojino
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Dear Alex, I believe that if there is a shutdown, real time transmission of results will be affected. This raises the question : is there a manual backup and in such a case would there arise a constitutional crisis of unending delays that may prompt anxiety? My 2 cents! Regards, R.Ojino On 27-Jun-2017 1:25 PM, "Watila Alex" <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Good afternoon,
If there is a shutdown, will the transmission of election results be affected?
Regards,
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Greetings Listers,
Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation.
It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns:
a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya?
b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns?
c) What are the implications on the electoral process?
d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens?
Looking forward to your active participation.
Best regards,
Ronald Ojino
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@Alex, I am tempted to para-phrase your question. Is the motive to compromise election results transmission systems sufficient to occasion an internet shutdown? But then again, you can compromise the backend database servers (not necessarily internet) and achieve the same results (no electronic results transmission) I dont have the answers, but hey, we have only 40days to find out and we can wait ;-) walu. From: Watila Alex via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS #yiv9804208218 #yiv9804208218 -- _filtered #yiv9804208218 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv9804208218 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv9804208218 #yiv9804208218 p.yiv9804208218MsoNormal, #yiv9804208218 li.yiv9804208218MsoNormal, #yiv9804208218 div.yiv9804208218MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv9804208218 a:link, #yiv9804208218 span.yiv9804208218MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9804208218 a:visited, #yiv9804208218 span.yiv9804208218MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9804208218 p.yiv9804208218msonormal0, #yiv9804208218 li.yiv9804208218msonormal0, #yiv9804208218 div.yiv9804208218msonormal0 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv9804208218 span.yiv9804208218EmailStyle18 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv9804208218 .yiv9804208218MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv9804208218 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv9804208218 div.yiv9804208218WordSection1 {}#yiv9804208218 Good afternoon,If there is a shutdown, will the transmission of election results be affected? Regards, From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ronald Ojino via kictanet Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:30 AM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke Subject: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS Greetings Listers,Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation.It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns:a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya?b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns?c) What are the implications on the electoral process?d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens?Looking forward to your active participation.Best regards,Ronald Ojino | | Virus-free. www.avg.com | _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Did I hear manual backup? On 27 Jun 2017 2:00 p.m., "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Alex,
I am tempted to para-phrase your question.
Is the motive to compromise election results transmission systems sufficient to occasion an internet shutdown?
But then again, you can compromise the backend database servers (not necessarily internet) and achieve the same results (no electronic results transmission)
I dont have the answers, but hey, we have only 40days to find out and we can wait ;-)
walu.
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Good afternoon, If there is a shutdown, will the transmission of election results be affected?
Regards,
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists. kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Ronald Ojino via kictanet *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:30 AM *To:* awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke *Subject:* [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS
Greetings Listers, Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation. It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns: a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya? b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns? c) What are the implications on the electoral process? d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens? Looking forward to your active participation. Best regards, Ronald Ojino
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Looking at election shutdowns in Africa last year, governments (incumbents) gave the rationale that it was to maintain public order/national security. If you consider the problem from this point of view, there is a high probability of a shutdown, at least a partial one in Kenya. Is a shutdown the right way to maintain public order? No I would hope that the government can come out and clearly allay these fears about a looming shutdown. 2017-06-27 14:46 GMT+03:00 Victor Kapiyo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>:
Did I hear manual backup?
On 27 Jun 2017 2:00 p.m., "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Alex,
I am tempted to para-phrase your question.
Is the motive to compromise election results transmission systems sufficient to occasion an internet shutdown?
But then again, you can compromise the backend database servers (not necessarily internet) and achieve the same results (no electronic results transmission)
I dont have the answers, but hey, we have only 40days to find out and we can wait ;-)
walu.
------------------------------ *From:* Watila Alex via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:38 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS
Good afternoon, If there is a shutdown, will the transmission of election results be affected?
Regards,
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila= yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Ronald Ojino via kictanet *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:30 AM *To:* awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke *Subject:* [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS
Greetings Listers, Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation. It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns: a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya? b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns? c) What are the implications on the electoral process? d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens? Looking forward to your active participation. Best regards, Ronald Ojino
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Hello, I attended the National Election Conference which was hosted by IEBC earlier this month. Dr. Wangusi was a panelist in one of the sessions and I asked him to assure Kenyans that there would be no censorship or interruption of communication on the day of elections. He stated that there would be no such interruption. He also stated that election results would be transmitted on a VPN which would see that they do not touch on the bandwidth we would use on the day. I hope this helps in the discussions. Deborah On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Grace Mutung'u via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Looking at election shutdowns in Africa last year, governments (incumbents) gave the rationale that it was to maintain public order/national security. If you consider the problem from this point of view, there is a high probability of a shutdown, at least a partial one in Kenya. Is a shutdown the right way to maintain public order? No I would hope that the government can come out and clearly allay these fears about a looming shutdown.
2017-06-27 14:46 GMT+03:00 Victor Kapiyo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>:
Did I hear manual backup?
On 27 Jun 2017 2:00 p.m., "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Alex,
I am tempted to para-phrase your question.
Is the motive to compromise election results transmission systems sufficient to occasion an internet shutdown?
But then again, you can compromise the backend database servers (not necessarily internet) and achieve the same results (no electronic results transmission)
I dont have the answers, but hey, we have only 40days to find out and we can wait ;-)
walu.
------------------------------ *From:* Watila Alex via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:38 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS
Good afternoon, If there is a shutdown, will the transmission of election results be affected?
Regards,
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila= yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Ronald Ojino via kictanet *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:30 AM *To:* awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke *Subject:* [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS
Greetings Listers, Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation. It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns: a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya? b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns? c) What are the implications on the electoral process? d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens? Looking forward to your active participation. Best regards, Ronald Ojino
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I forgot to add three telecommunication companies will be used in transmitting the results; Safaricom, Airtel and Telkom. The reason is to de-congest the networks and ensure there is free flow of traffic on the day to prevent delays in transmission. Deborah On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Deborah Wanjugu <deborah.wanjugu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I attended the National Election Conference which was hosted by IEBC earlier this month. Dr. Wangusi was a panelist in one of the sessions and I asked him to assure Kenyans that there would be no censorship or interruption of communication on the day of elections. He stated that there would be no such interruption. He also stated that election results would be transmitted on a VPN which would see that they do not touch on the bandwidth we would use on the day.
I hope this helps in the discussions.
Deborah
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Grace Mutung'u via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Looking at election shutdowns in Africa last year, governments (incumbents) gave the rationale that it was to maintain public order/national security. If you consider the problem from this point of view, there is a high probability of a shutdown, at least a partial one in Kenya. Is a shutdown the right way to maintain public order? No I would hope that the government can come out and clearly allay these fears about a looming shutdown.
2017-06-27 14:46 GMT+03:00 Victor Kapiyo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>:
Did I hear manual backup?
On 27 Jun 2017 2:00 p.m., "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Alex,
I am tempted to para-phrase your question.
Is the motive to compromise election results transmission systems sufficient to occasion an internet shutdown?
But then again, you can compromise the backend database servers (not necessarily internet) and achieve the same results (no electronic results transmission)
I dont have the answers, but hey, we have only 40days to find out and we can wait ;-)
walu.
------------------------------ *From:* Watila Alex via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:38 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS
Good afternoon, If there is a shutdown, will the transmission of election results be affected?
Regards,
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila= yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Ronald Ojino via kictanet *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:30 AM *To:* awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke *Subject:* [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS
Greetings Listers, Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation. It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns: a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya? b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns? c) What are the implications on the electoral process? d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens? Looking forward to your active participation. Best regards, Ronald Ojino
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Thanks, Is the transmission system we are discussing based on this tender? TENDER NO IEBC/33/2016-2017: <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf> SUPPLY, DELIVERY, INSTALLATION, <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf> IMPLEMENTATION AND COMMISSIONING OF <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf> WIDE AREA NETWORK IN TWO HUNDRED AND <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf> NINETY (290) NEW LOCATIONS, EIGHTEEN (18) <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf> EXISTING SITES AND PROVISION OF DEDICATED <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf> INTERNET SERVICES <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf> If it is, it is based on internet and would be affected by an internet shutdown Regards, Alex From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Deborah Wanjugu via kictanet Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 5:08 PM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Deborah Wanjugu <deborah.wanjugu@gmail.com>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS Hello, I attended the National Election Conference which was hosted by IEBC earlier this month. Dr. Wangusi was a panelist in one of the sessions and I asked him to assure Kenyans that there would be no censorship or interruption of communication on the day of elections. He stated that there would be no such interruption. He also stated that election results would be transmitted on a VPN which would see that they do not touch on the bandwidth we would use on the day. I hope this helps in the discussions. Deborah On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Grace Mutung'u via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > wrote: Looking at election shutdowns in Africa last year, governments (incumbents) gave the rationale that it was to maintain public order/national security. If you consider the problem from this point of view, there is a high probability of a shutdown, at least a partial one in Kenya. Is a shutdown the right way to maintain public order? No I would hope that the government can come out and clearly allay these fears about a looming shutdown. 2017-06-27 14:46 GMT+03:00 Victor Kapiyo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >: Did I hear manual backup? On 27 Jun 2017 2:00 p.m., "Walubengo J via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > wrote: @Alex, I am tempted to para-phrase your question. Is the motive to compromise election results transmission systems sufficient to occasion an internet shutdown? But then again, you can compromise the backend database servers (not necessarily internet) and achieve the same results (no electronic results transmission) I dont have the answers, but hey, we have only 40days to find out and we can wait ;-) walu. _____ From: Watila Alex via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > To: jwalu@yahoo.com <mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk> >; rojino@cuck.ac.ke <mailto:rojino@cuck.ac.ke> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS Good afternoon, If there is a shutdown, will the transmission of election results be affected? Regards, From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bawatila> =yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> ] On Behalf Of Ronald Ojino via kictanet Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:30 AM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com <mailto:ronojinx@gmail.com> >; rojino@cuck.ac.ke <mailto:rojino@cuck.ac.ke> Subject: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS Greetings Listers, Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation. It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns: a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya? b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns? c) What are the implications on the electoral process? d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens? Looking forward to your active participation. 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I believe it is because Dr. Wangusi mentioned wide area networks quite a bit during his session. Deborah On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Thanks,
Is the transmission system we are discussing based on this tender?
TENDER NO IEBC/33/2016-2017: <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf>
SUPPLY, DELIVERY, INSTALLATION, <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf>
IMPLEMENTATION AND COMMISSIONING OF <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf>
WIDE AREA NETWORK IN TWO HUNDRED AND <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf>
NINETY (290) NEW LOCATIONS, EIGHTEEN (18) <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf>
EXISTING SITES AND PROVISION OF DEDICATED <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf>
INTERNET SERVICES <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf>
If it is, it is based on internet and would be affected by an internet shutdown
Regards,
Alex
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists. kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Deborah Wanjugu via kictanet *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 5:08 PM *To:* awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Deborah Wanjugu <deborah.wanjugu@gmail.com>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS
Hello,
I attended the National Election Conference which was hosted by IEBC earlier this month. Dr. Wangusi was a panelist in one of the sessions and I asked him to assure Kenyans that there would be no censorship or interruption of communication on the day of elections. He stated that there would be no such interruption. He also stated that election results would be transmitted on a VPN which would see that they do not touch on the bandwidth we would use on the day.
I hope this helps in the discussions.
Deborah
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Grace Mutung'u via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Looking at election shutdowns in Africa last year, governments (incumbents) gave the rationale that it was to maintain public order/national security. If you consider the problem from this point of view, there is a high probability of a shutdown, at least a partial one in Kenya.
Is a shutdown the right way to maintain public order? No
I would hope that the government can come out and clearly allay these fears about a looming shutdown.
2017-06-27 14:46 GMT+03:00 Victor Kapiyo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>:
Did I hear manual backup?
On 27 Jun 2017 2:00 p.m., "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Alex,
I am tempted to para-phrase your question.
Is the motive to compromise election results transmission systems sufficient to occasion an internet shutdown?
But then again, you can compromise the backend database servers (not necessarily internet) and achieve the same results (no electronic results transmission)
I dont have the answers, but hey, we have only 40days to find out and we can wait ;-)
walu. ------------------------------
*From:* Watila Alex via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:38 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS
Good afternoon,
If there is a shutdown, will the transmission of election results be affected?
Regards,
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists. kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Ronald Ojino via kictanet *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:30 AM *To:* awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke *Subject:* [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS
Greetings Listers,
Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation.
It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns:
a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya?
b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns?
c) What are the implications on the electoral process?
d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens?
Looking forward to your active participation.
Best regards,
Ronald Ojino
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Good evening Listers, Kudos for the interesting engagements we had today that brought to the fore a number of important issues regarding Internet Shutdowns . This is summarized (based on popular sentiments) as follows: *a) **Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya?* There is a real fear of Internet Shutdowns during the election period (either complete or partial). There seems to be double speak from the government (the CS and CAK giving contradicting statements). *b) **Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns?* The basis of the shutdown could be brought about by public order justification for instance: to maintain public order as well as initiatives such as NCIC’s gadgets to monitor hate mongers. *c) **What are the implications on the electoral process?* Transmission of results would definitely be affected and the said VPN could equally be compromised. *d) **What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens?* The public have access to a wide range of tools such as VPNs that can easily be used to circumvent any blocks put to deny them access to the Internet. *Open issues that arise for further discussion are:* *- Could an Internet shutdown orders in Kenya be quashed by the courts,?bearing in mind that the constitution empowers the common mwananchi?* *- Are Internet balkanization initiatives by the bigger brothers like China and Russia a form of Internet shutdown?* *- Should providers adopt net neutrality argument of investing in technologies to zero rate, to allow deep packet inspection? This equally raises privacy issues.* *- Is the government preparing Kenyans for an imminent shutdown?* Thank you all once again for the lively discussion on Internet shutdowns. Kindly note that the door is not closed and we can always revisit this very important subject. Over to you Kanini and Joy for the second day's discussion (Looking forward to it) . Best regards, Ronald Ojino On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Deborah Wanjugu via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I believe it is because Dr. Wangusi mentioned wide area networks quite a bit during his session.
Deborah
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Thanks,
Is the transmission system we are discussing based on this tender?
TENDER NO IEBC/33/2016-2017: <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf>
SUPPLY, DELIVERY, INSTALLATION, <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf>
IMPLEMENTATION AND COMMISSIONING OF <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf>
WIDE AREA NETWORK IN TWO HUNDRED AND <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf>
NINETY (290) NEW LOCATIONS, EIGHTEEN (18) <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf>
EXISTING SITES AND PROVISION OF DEDICATED <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf>
INTERNET SERVICES <https://www.iebc.or.ke/uploads/tenders/MFwFEJ5iKJ.pdf>
If it is, it is based on internet and would be affected by an internet shutdown
Regards,
Alex
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila= yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Deborah Wanjugu via kictanet *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 5:08 PM *To:* awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Deborah Wanjugu <deborah.wanjugu@gmail.com>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS
Hello,
I attended the National Election Conference which was hosted by IEBC earlier this month. Dr. Wangusi was a panelist in one of the sessions and I asked him to assure Kenyans that there would be no censorship or interruption of communication on the day of elections. He stated that there would be no such interruption. He also stated that election results would be transmitted on a VPN which would see that they do not touch on the bandwidth we would use on the day.
I hope this helps in the discussions.
Deborah
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Grace Mutung'u via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Looking at election shutdowns in Africa last year, governments (incumbents) gave the rationale that it was to maintain public order/national security. If you consider the problem from this point of view, there is a high probability of a shutdown, at least a partial one in Kenya.
Is a shutdown the right way to maintain public order? No
I would hope that the government can come out and clearly allay these fears about a looming shutdown.
2017-06-27 14:46 GMT+03:00 Victor Kapiyo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>:
Did I hear manual backup?
On 27 Jun 2017 2:00 p.m., "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Alex,
I am tempted to para-phrase your question.
Is the motive to compromise election results transmission systems sufficient to occasion an internet shutdown?
But then again, you can compromise the backend database servers (not necessarily internet) and achieve the same results (no electronic results transmission)
I dont have the answers, but hey, we have only 40days to find out and we can wait ;-)
walu. ------------------------------
*From:* Watila Alex via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:38 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS
Good afternoon,
If there is a shutdown, will the transmission of election results be affected?
Regards,
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila= yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Ronald Ojino via kictanet *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:30 AM *To:* awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke *Subject:* [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS
Greetings Listers,
Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation.
It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns:
a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya?
b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns?
c) What are the implications on the electoral process?
d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens?
Looking forward to your active participation.
Best regards,
Ronald Ojino
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-- Faith is a living and unshakable confidence. A belief in God so assured that a man would die a thousand deaths for its sake.
https://blog.mozilla.org/internetcitizen/2017/06/26/irl-episode-1-privacy/?sample_rate=0.01&snippet_name=6830#utm_source=desktop-snippet&utm_medium=snippet&utm_campaign=IRL&utm_term=6830&utm_content=rel I am captivated by the tagline here " Protecting the largest shared global resource". Stakeholders are ready to engage with governments on other resources, how governments distribute then or facilitate for this. The deliberations at AIS on shutdowns and the concerns by internet stakeholders in the view of agitating African governments and possibly making shutdowns worse, makes the discussions on shutdowns a PR gimmick. I suspect there is a generation that is coming up that has no time for this rhetoric and as long as they cannot have their internet resource assured, they will circumvent the system, create their own internet or develop another gateway - leaving the said internet to those busy protecting it as it is. Be blessed. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". On Tuesday, 27 June 2017, 21:01, Ronald Ojino via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Good evening Listers,Kudos for the interestingengagements we had today that brought to the fore a number of important issuesregarding Internet Shutdowns . This is summarized (based on popularsentiments) as follows:a) Isthere a real fear of this happening in Kenya?There is a realfear of Internet Shutdowns during the election period (either complete orpartial). There seems to be double speak from the government (the CS and CAKgiving contradicting statements).b) Isthere any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns?The basis ofthe shutdown could be brought about by public order justification for instance:to maintain public order as well as initiatives such as NCIC’s gadgets tomonitor hate mongers. c) Whatare the implications on the electoral process?Transmissionof results would definitely be affected and the said VPN could equally becompromised.d) Whatoptions do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens? The public have access to a widerange of tools such as VPNs that can easily be used to circumvent any blocksput to deny them access to the Internet. Open issues that arise for furtherdiscussion are:- Couldan Internet shutdown orders in Kenya be quashed by the courts,?bearing in mindthat the constitution empowers the common mwananchi?- AreInternet balkanization initiatives by the bigger brothers like China and Russiaa form of Internet shutdown?- Should providers adopt net neutrality argument of investing in technologies to zero rate, to allow deep packet inspection? This equally raises privacy issues.- Is the government preparing Kenyans for an imminent shutdown? Thank you all once again for the lively discussion on Internet shutdowns. Kindly note that the door is not closed and we can always revisit this very important subject.Over to you Kanini and Joy for the second day's discussion (Looking forward to it) . Best regards,Ronald Ojino On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Deborah Wanjugu via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: I believe it is because Dr. Wangusi mentioned wide area networks quite a bit during his session. Deborah On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Thanks,Is the transmission system we are discussing based on this tender? TENDER NO IEBC/33/2016-2017:SUPPLY, DELIVERY, INSTALLATION,IMPLEMENTATION AND COMMISSIONING OFWIDE AREA NETWORK IN TWO HUNDRED ANDNINETY (290) NEW LOCATIONS, EIGHTEEN (18)EXISTING SITES AND PROVISION OF DEDICATEDINTERNET SERVICES If it is, it is based on internet and would be affected by an internet shutdown Regards, Alex From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awati la=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet. or.ke] On Behalf Of Deborah Wanjugu via kictanet Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 5:08 PM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Deborah Wanjugu <deborah.wanjugu@gmail.com>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS Hello, I attended the National Election Conference which was hosted by IEBC earlier this month. Dr. Wangusi was a panelist in one of the sessions and I asked him to assure Kenyans that there would be no censorship or interruption of communication on the day of elections. He stated that there would be no such interruption. He also stated that election results would be transmitted on a VPN which would see that they do not touch on the bandwidth we would use on the day. I hope this helps in the discussions. Deborah On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Grace Mutung'u via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: Looking at election shutdowns in Africa last year, governments (incumbents) gave the rationale that it was to maintain public order/national security. If you consider the problem from this point of view, there is a high probability of a shutdown, at least a partial one in Kenya. Is a shutdown the right way to maintain public order? NoI would hope that the government can come out and clearly allay these fears about a looming shutdown. 2017-06-27 14:46 GMT+03:00 Victor Kapiyo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke >: Did I hear manual backup? On 27 Jun 2017 2:00 p.m., "Walubengo J via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: @Alex, I am tempted to para-phrase your question. Is the motive to compromise election results transmission systems sufficient to occasion an internet shutdown? But then again, you can compromise the backend database servers (not necessarily internet) and achieve the same results (no electronic results transmission) I dont have the answers, but hey, we have only 40days to find out and we can wait ;-) walu.From: Watila Alex via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS Good afternoon,If there is a shutdown, will the transmission of election results be affected? Regards, From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awati la=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet. or.ke] On Behalf Of Ronald Ojino via kictanet Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:30 AM To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com>; rojino@cuck.ac.ke Subject: [kictanet] PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION DAY 1 - INTERNET SHUTDOWNS Greetings Listers,Hope you are psyched up for today’s discussion on Internet Shutdowns especially during the election period. With such shutdowns, mobile communications, popular social networks among other forms of communication can be halted effectively crippling information exchange across the nation.It is our desire that you share your aspirations, expectations, experience and suggestions with regard to Internet shutdowns:a) Is there a real fear of this happening in Kenya?b) Is there any legal basis if any (laws) that can legitimize such shutdowns?c) What are the implications on the electoral process?d) What options do the public have to access the Internet if shutdown happens?Looking forward to your active participation.Best regards,Ronald Ojino | | Virus-free. www.avg.com | ______________________________ _________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTA Net/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/options/kictanet/jwalu% 40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. ______________________________ _________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/options/kictanet/ ronojinx%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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participants (12)
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Admin CampusCiti -
Andrew Alston -
Deborah Wanjugu -
Francis Monyango -
Grace Mutung'u -
kanini mutemi -
Mwendwa Kivuva -
Ronald Ojino -
Victor Kapiyo -
Walubengo J -
WANGARI KABIRU -
Watila Alex