Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 Discussions Day 2 of 10 Mobile Payment Platforms
Victor, Agreed public interest is paramount in any policy regulatory framework for example protection for the consumers by requiring the mobile companies to carry insurance in order to protect and promote public confidence in the Mobile payments. Similar to the FDIC here in the US that insures depositors for at least $250,000 per insured bank; the FDIC identifies, monitors and addresses risks to the insurance funds limiting the effect on the economy and in case a bank fails. Somebody correct me if I am wrong but to my surprise CBK doesn't seem to have a simillar risk management framework in place for consumer protection should a Bank fail in Kenya? LK
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Somebody correct me if I am wrong but to my surprise CBK doesn't seem to have a simillar risk management framework in place for consumer protection should a Bank fail in Kenya?
Something like this? http://www.centralbank.go.ke/dpfb/Default.aspx ? Not sure about limit's but last I heard it was up to 100,000 KES per individual... -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 720 406 093 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ |
Lucy, unless the CBK has outdated information on its website, yes, there is a deposit protection scheme - more info here: http://www.centralbank.go.ke/FAQs/DepositProtectionFAQs.aspx In the case of mobile money, the mobile operator does not keep any cash itself - as far as I know, the cash is held in a trust account of a commercial bank, which then technically makes it the responsibility of the bank, not of the telco. If this is a single account, the sums is larger than what the deposit protection scheme covers, but a trust account may have a more protected status. On 4 July 2011 17:18, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Victor,
Agreed public interest is paramount in any policy regulatory framework for example protection for the consumers by requiring the mobile companies to carry insurance in order to protect and promote public confidence in the Mobile payments. Similar to the FDIC here in the US that insures depositors for at least $250,000 per insured bank; the FDIC identifies, monitors and addresses risks to the insurance funds limiting the effect on the economy and in case a bank fails. Somebody correct me if I am wrong but to my surprise CBK doesn't seem to have a simillar risk management framework in place for consumer protection should a Bank fail in Kenya?
LK
------------------------------ * From: * Victor Gathara <vgathara@vimak.co.ke>; * To: * <lkimani@yahoo.com>; * Cc: * 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>;
* Subject: * Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 Discussions Day 2 of 10 Mobile Payment Platforms * Sent: * Mon, Jul 4, 2011 12:58:11 PM
Barrack,
Seamless money transfer across mobile networks I think the next step in the rung on mobile payment ladder. This will require policy and regulation to get the providers to set up a sort of 'clearance house' for the providers and ensure that all play ball and that the consumers are protected. There should be a balance between rewarding innovation (read mobile phone companies) and taking care of public interest.
Victor
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+vgathara=vimak.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+vgathara=vimak.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Barrack Otieno Sent: 03 July 2011 22:02 To: vgathara@vimak.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 Discussions Day 2 of 10 Mobile Payment Platforms
Dear Listers,
Mobile payment platforms continue to offer tremendous amount of services and innovation, with the ability to exchange, transmit and store data and content embedded within payments systems. . What are the challenges in balancing consumer protection and regulatory oversight particularly regarding privacy and ownership of information/content and data? . What is the role of policy and regulation for successful transition to new mobile payment channels?
the floor is open, feel free to contribute to previous topics as we carry on with the discussion
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Agreed public interest is paramount in any policy regulatory framework for example protection for the consumers by requiring the mobile companies to carry insurance in order to protect and promote public confidence in the Mobile payments. Similar to the FDIC here in the US that insures depositors for at least $250,000 per insured bank; the FDIC identifies, monitors and addresses risks to the insurance funds limiting the effect on the economy and in case a bank fails. Somebody correct me if I am wrong but to my surprise CBK doesn't seem to have a simillar risk management framework in place for consumer protection should a Bank fail in Kenya?
LK
________________________________ From: Victor Gathara <vgathara@vimak.co.ke>; To: <lkimani@yahoo.com>; Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 Discussions Day 2 of 10 Mobile Payment Platforms Sent: Mon, Jul 4, 2011 12:58:11 PM
Barrack,
Seamless money transfer across mobile networks I think the next step in the rung on mobile payment ladder. This will require policy and regulation to get the providers to set up a sort of 'clearance house' for the providers and ensure that all play ball and that the consumers are protected. There should be a balance between rewarding innovation (read mobile phone companies) and taking care of public interest.
Victor
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+vgathara=vimak.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+vgathara=vimak.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Barrack Otieno Sent: 03 July 2011 22:02 To: vgathara@vimak.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 Discussions Day 2 of 10 Mobile Payment Platforms
Dear Listers,
Mobile payment platforms continue to offer tremendous amount of services and innovation, with the ability to exchange, transmit and store data and content embedded within payments systems. . What are the challenges in balancing consumer protection and regulatory oversight particularly regarding privacy and ownership of information/content and data? . What is the role of policy and regulation for successful transition to new mobile payment channels?
the floor is open, feel free to contribute to previous topics as we carry on with the discussion
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype:
barrack.otieno
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There's the Deposits Protection Fund Board in Kenya which does something similar. http://www.centralbank.go.ke/dpfb/Default.aspx Kind regards, *Muchiri* Nyaggah Principal Partner @muchiri +254 722 506400 Semacraft.com On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Victor,
Agreed public interest is paramount in any policy regulatory framework for example protection for the consumers by requiring the mobile companies to carry insurance in order to protect and promote public confidence in the Mobile payments. Similar to the FDIC here in the US that insures depositors for at least $250,000 per insured bank; the FDIC identifies, monitors and addresses risks to the insurance funds limiting the effect on the economy and in case a bank fails. Somebody correct me if I am wrong but to my surprise CBK doesn't seem to have a simillar risk management framework in place for consumer protection should a Bank fail in Kenya?
LK
------------------------------ * From: * Victor Gathara <vgathara@vimak.co.ke>; * To: * <lkimani@yahoo.com>; * Cc: * 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>;
* Subject: * Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 Discussions Day 2 of 10 Mobile Payment Platforms * Sent: * Mon, Jul 4, 2011 12:58:11 PM
Barrack,
Seamless money transfer across mobile networks I think the next step in the rung on mobile payment ladder. This will require policy and regulation to get the providers to set up a sort of 'clearance house' for the providers and ensure that all play ball and that the consumers are protected. There should be a balance between rewarding innovation (read mobile phone companies) and taking care of public interest.
Victor
-----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+vgathara=vimak.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+vgathara=vimak.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Barrack Otieno Sent: 03 July 2011 22:02 To: vgathara@vimak.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 Discussions Day 2 of 10 Mobile Payment Platforms
Dear Listers,
Mobile payment platforms continue to offer tremendous amount of services and innovation, with the ability to exchange, transmit and store data and content embedded within payments systems. . What are the challenges in balancing consumer protection and regulatory oversight particularly regarding privacy and ownership of information/content and data? . What is the role of policy and regulation for successful transition to new mobile payment channels?
the floor is open, feel free to contribute to previous topics as we carry on with the discussion
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno
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Rehanah Mohammed