Fwd: [igf_members] Good news! Contact with Tarek Kamel!
Dear Listers - those who know Tarek Kamel, lately ICT Minister in Egypt, may be interested in his contacts as below: ----- Original message ----- From: "George Sadowsky" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:44:50 -0400 Subject: [igf_members] Good news! Contact with Tarek Kamel! All, Thanks to Nashwa Abedel-Baki, I made contact with Tarek yesterday, and we had a very good telephone call. Here are the highlights: - He is in Paris and has been for some time. He's being treated at the American Hospital for a malignancy of the stomach and intestine. (We did not go into detail.) According to Tarek, his doctor gives him a very good prognosis for beating the disease. - He is living at an apartment hotel in Paris, connected to the Egyptian embassy. - His wife is with him in Paris, and his children are with his wife's parents in Egypt. - He is interested in resuming a professional career, most probably in the international sphere, and he is beginning to put out feelers and to re-establish his professional network. Some of us, or course, are a part of that network. I told him that he has many friends internationally, here in this group as well as elsewhere, and that he could count on whatever help we could give him. - Depending upon his medical condition, he talked about possibly visiting the United States (Washington, New York, maybe elsewhere) at the end of summer or early fall. - He now has a new e-mail address, independent of the Egyptian government: "Tarek Kamel" <[email protected]> I encourage you to write to him. - He has a mobile phone number: +33 6 26 48 78 35. When I talked with him, he seemed somewhat tired, but his spirits were good, and he enjoyed the contact. My sense is that he has some preference for e-mail contact, but that's my sense only and I could be wrong, and it clearly depends upon the nature of the conversation. When he is in the hospital for treatment he probably doesn't have access to his phone very much; in the U.S. the use of mobile phones is restricted when around any significant medical instrumentation. I hope that as a group, we have sufficient imagination, knowledge, contacts, and perseverance to help him to secure a really good position in which he can be effective, one that he richly deserves. Regards, George _______________________________________________ igf_members mailing list [email protected] http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/igf_members_intgovforum.org
Dear Waudo I know you are passing on a message, and that you did not write the message to the IGF.You and I are old friends. As such, do not take the comments below as an attack on you, but rather, an interrogation of George Sadowsky's email. Since I have been in Egypt for the past six months, and have lived through every day of the Revolution, here are the questions that spring to mind. What was the role of Tarek Kamel in shuttling off the Internet? Why are we interested in helping people from the deposed Mubarak regime? Was Kamel somehow involved in opposing the Mubarak regime, or is there another reason we should have sympathy for him? If he was a minister in Egypt, he more than likely shared in the ill gotten gains that were stolen from the Egyptian people, who are still protesting for democracy in Tahrir Square. Just my two shillings. Yours, Rigia On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:39 AM, waudo siganga <[email protected]>wrote:
Dear Listers - those who know Tarek Kamel, lately ICT Minister in Egypt, may be interested in his contacts as below:
----- Original message ----- From: "George Sadowsky" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:44:50 -0400 Subject: [igf_members] Good news! Contact with Tarek Kamel!
All,
Thanks to Nashwa Abedel-Baki, I made contact with Tarek yesterday, and we had a very good telephone call. Here are the highlights:
- He is in Paris and has been for some time. He's being treated at the American Hospital for a malignancy of the stomach and intestine. (We did not go into detail.) According to Tarek, his doctor gives him a very good prognosis for beating the disease.
- He is living at an apartment hotel in Paris, connected to the Egyptian embassy.
- His wife is with him in Paris, and his children are with his wife's parents in Egypt.
- He is interested in resuming a professional career, most probably in the international sphere, and he is beginning to put out feelers and to re-establish his professional network. Some of us, or course, are a part of that network. I told him that he has many friends internationally, here in this group as well as elsewhere, and that he could count on whatever help we could give him.
- Depending upon his medical condition, he talked about possibly visiting the United States (Washington, New York, maybe elsewhere) at the end of summer or early fall.
- He now has a new e-mail address, independent of the Egyptian government:
"Tarek Kamel" <[email protected]>
I encourage you to write to him.
- He has a mobile phone number: +33 6 26 48 78 35. When I talked with him, he seemed somewhat tired, but his spirits were good, and he enjoyed the contact. My sense is that he has some preference for e-mail contact, but that's my sense only and I could be wrong, and it clearly depends upon the nature of the conversation. When he is in the hospital for treatment he probably doesn't have access to his phone very much; in the U.S. the use of mobile phones is restricted when around any significant medical instrumentation.
I hope that as a group, we have sufficient imagination, knowledge, contacts, and perseverance to help him to secure a really good position in which he can be effective, one that he richly deserves.
Regards,
George
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Dear Rigia - thanks for your feelings regarding Tarek and certainly will all impress on George and other colleagues. Personally I do not think that there is any human being who does not make mistakes. Some people also make some mistakes while doing great things. It just depends on what we want to remember. I do not know to what extent we can ascribe the Internet shutdown during the uprising to Tarek as a person or whether it was orders from elsewhere. However since you are on the ground I think you have better info! Let us talk more during the Pasha visits. Waudo On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 00:53 -0500, "warigia bowman" <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Waudo I know you are passing on a message, and that you did not write the message to the IGF.You and I are old friends. As such, do not take the comments below as an attack on you, but rather, an interrogation of George Sadowsky's email. Since I have been in Egypt for the past six months, and have lived through every day of the Revolution, here are the questions that spring to mind. What was the role of Tarek Kamel in shuttling off the Internet? Why are we interested in helping people from the deposed Mubarak regime? Was Kamel somehow involved in opposing the Mubarak regime, or is there another reason we should have sympathy for him? If he was a minister in Egypt, he more than likely shared in the ill gotten gains that were stolen from the Egyptian people, who are still protesting for democracy in Tahrir Square. Just my two shillings. Yours, Rigia On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:39 AM, waudo siganga <[1][email protected]> wrote: Dear Listers - those who know Tarek Kamel, lately ICT Minister in Egypt, may be interested in his contacts as below: ----- Original message ----- From: "George Sadowsky" <[2][email protected]> To: [3][email protected] Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:44:50 -0400 Subject: [igf_members] Good news! Contact with Tarek Kamel! All, Thanks to Nashwa Abedel-Baki, I made contact with Tarek yesterday, and we had a very good telephone call. Here are the highlights: - He is in Paris and has been for some time. He's being treated at the American Hospital for a malignancy of the stomach and intestine. (We did not go into detail.) According to Tarek, his doctor gives him a very good prognosis for beating the disease. - He is living at an apartment hotel in Paris, connected to the Egyptian embassy. - His wife is with him in Paris, and his children are with his wife's parents in Egypt. - He is interested in resuming a professional career, most probably in the international sphere, and he is beginning to put out feelers and to re-establish his professional network. Some of us, or course, are a part of that network. I told him that he has many friends internationally, here in this group as well as elsewhere, and that he could count on whatever help we could give him. - Depending upon his medical condition, he talked about possibly visiting the United States (Washington, New York, maybe elsewhere) at the end of summer or early fall. - He now has a new e-mail address, independent of the Egyptian government: "Tarek Kamel" <[4][email protected]> I encourage you to write to him. - He has a mobile phone number: [5]+33 6 26 48 78 35. When I talked with him, he seemed somewhat tired, but his spirits were good, and he enjoyed the contact. My sense is that he has some preference for e-mail contact, but that's my sense only and I could be wrong, and it clearly depends upon the nature of the conversation. When he is in the hospital for treatment he probably doesn't have access to his phone very much; in the U.S. the use of mobile phones is restricted when around any significant medical instrumentation. 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