Are we throwing the baby with the bath water?
Listers Voltaire, the Famour French Historian and Philosopher once said "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/v/voltaire109645.html> " I am writing this post due to the interesting times that we live in. There is a lot of emotions, bigotry, outright tribalism and jingoism being bandied around the country in many channels - Online responses to media stories, FM Station talk shows, social media, work places, bars etc. Whilst I abore the very nature of some of the discussions we have fought too hard for freedom of expression and association to blanketly condemn everything whole sale. I have just read a story in today's nation titled *'14 Bloggers linked to hate messages'*. http://www.nation.co.ke/News/14-bloggers-linked-to-hate-messages/-/1056/1732... The gist of the story is that the bloggers are using the anonymity of the internet to spread hate, tribalism etc.and they are being 'hunted down' like rabid dogs. What I found interesting is this particular paragraph:- *Mr Robert Alai, a well-known blogger was on Tuesday charged with posting “annoying” statements on social media sites, Twitter and Facebook.* For those of us who follow Robert on Social Media you may be forgiven if you think he is the 'Village Mad Man'. However he is a Kenyan and has a right to free speech. I do not excuse some of the stuff being posted online but I sincerely do hope that when one is being charged at our law courts the charge sheet does not say that he or she is charged in court for posting 'Annoying Statements'!! A few months ago Eric Hershman (whiteafrican.com) posted a blog defending Robert's right to his unique brand of 'journalism' and I am one of those who commented on the blog saying that one needs to take responsibility for his actions. http://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/ Now I see where Eric was going... Oh the power of Retrospection. I urge the Powers That Be to delicately balance and be circumspect on how they use the tools of state lest we run rough shod on the very freedoms that allow us to freely comment, post online our opinions. As Voltaire said - I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Let us all take a step back and ensure that we do not fall victim to the tyranny of the few who have decided to interpret for us what is good or bad for our beloved nation. *Ali Hussein* *CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd* *Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd * Tel: +254713601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Thanks Ali for posting this. I have always wondered whether there is a crime called 'posting annoying statements'? Any statute or case law that we can rely on? I think the DPP should give direction on this as this wastes a lot of court time and ultimately our money (paying for investigations, prosecution etc.). But could be wrong but not aware of any statute or case law (common law) that makes it a crime to make annoying statements? I also saw the guy involved with Tuju being charged with making statements to 'annoy' him. I am about to sue so many people for making statements that 'annoy' me including he director of Public Communications, Ms Mary Ombara and Head of Civil Service Francis Kimemia (the latter has also 'annoyed' VP Kalonzo Musyoka and PM Raila Odinga). Take my last statement with a pinch of salt but you can see how the charges are annoying to those of us who cherish free speech. On a lighter note, the statement that 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it' is often wrongly attributed to Voltaire but was in fact first made by S.G. Tallentyre (real name Evelyn Beatrice Hall) who wrote Voltaire’s biography. Dr George Nyabuga Tel: +230 403 51 00 Head, Communications and PR, AFRINIC Fax: +230 466 67 58 george@afrinic.net - www.afrinic.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please join us at the Africa Internet Summit, Lusaka, Zambia, 9 – 21 June 2013 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
Voltaire, the Famour French Historian and Philosopher once said
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
I am writing this post due to the interesting times that we live in. There is a lot of emotions, bigotry, outright tribalism and jingoism being bandied around the country in many channels - Online responses to media stories, FM Station talk shows, social media, work places, bars etc. Whilst I abore the very nature of some of the discussions we have fought too hard for freedom of expression and association to blanketly condemn everything whole sale.
I have just read a story in today's nation titled '14 Bloggers linked to hate messages'.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/14-bloggers-linked-to-hate-messages/-/1056/1732...
The gist of the story is that the bloggers are using the anonymity of the internet to spread hate, tribalism etc.and they are being 'hunted down' like rabid dogs. What I found interesting is this particular paragraph:-
Mr Robert Alai, a well-known blogger was on Tuesday charged with posting “annoying” statements on social media sites, Twitter and Facebook.
For those of us who follow Robert on Social Media you may be forgiven if you think he is the 'Village Mad Man'. However he is a Kenyan and has a right to free speech. I do not excuse some of the stuff being posted online but I sincerely do hope that when one is being charged at our law courts the charge sheet does not say that he or she is charged in court for posting 'Annoying Statements'!!
A few months ago Eric Hershman (whiteafrican.com) posted a blog defending Robert's right to his unique brand of 'journalism' and I am one of those who commented on the blog saying that one needs to take responsibility for his actions.
http://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/
Now I see where Eric was going... Oh the power of Retrospection.
I urge the Powers That Be to delicately balance and be circumspect on how they use the tools of state lest we run rough shod on the very freedoms that allow us to freely comment, post online our opinions. As Voltaire said - I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Let us all take a step back and ensure that we do not fall victim to the tyranny of the few who have decided to interpret for us what is good or bad for our beloved nation.
Ali Hussein CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd
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George Agreed. Thanks for the lesson in History..:-) I guess that usually does happen. Like the statement that is mostly attributed to JFK - Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country - That was actually made by Khalil Jibran, A Christian Arab philosopher. *Ali Hussein* *CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd* *Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd * Tel: +254713601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:56 AM, George Nyabuga <george@afrinic.net> wrote:
Thanks Ali for posting this. I have always wondered whether there is a crime called 'posting annoying statements'? Any statute or case law that we can rely on? I think the DPP should give direction on this as this wastes a lot of court time and ultimately our money (paying for investigations, prosecution etc.). But could be wrong but not aware of any statute or case law (common law) that makes it a crime to make annoying statements? I also saw the guy involved with Tuju being charged with making statements to 'annoy' him. I am about to sue so many people for making statements that 'annoy' me including he director of Public Communications, Ms Mary Ombara and Head of Civil Service Francis Kimemia (the latter has also 'annoyed' VP Kalonzo Musyoka and PM Raila Odinga). Take my last statement with a pinch of salt but you can see how the charges are annoying to those of us who cherish free speech.****
On a lighter note, the statement that 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it' is often wrongly attributed to Voltaire but was in fact first made by S.G. Tallentyre (real name Evelyn Beatrice Hall) who wrote Voltaire’s biography.****
Dr George Nyabuga Tel: +230 403 51 00 Head, Communications and PR, AFRINIC Fax: +230 466 67 58 george@afrinic.net - www.afrinic.net
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On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
Voltaire, the Famour French Historian and Philosopher once said
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/v/voltaire109645.html> "
I am writing this post due to the interesting times that we live in. There is a lot of emotions, bigotry, outright tribalism and jingoism being bandied around the country in many channels - Online responses to media stories, FM Station talk shows, social media, work places, bars etc. Whilst I abore the very nature of some of the discussions we have fought too hard for freedom of expression and association to blanketly condemn everything whole sale.
I have just read a story in today's nation titled *'14 Bloggers linked to hate messages'*.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/14-bloggers-linked-to-hate-messages/-/1056/1732...
The gist of the story is that the bloggers are using the anonymity of the internet to spread hate, tribalism etc.and they are being 'hunted down' like rabid dogs. What I found interesting is this particular paragraph:-
*Mr Robert Alai, a well-known blogger was on Tuesday charged with posting “annoying” statements on social media sites, Twitter and Facebook.*
For those of us who follow Robert on Social Media you may be forgiven if you think he is the 'Village Mad Man'. However he is a Kenyan and has a right to free speech. I do not excuse some of the stuff being posted online but I sincerely do hope that when one is being charged at our law courts the charge sheet does not say that he or she is charged in court for posting 'Annoying Statements'!!
A few months ago Eric Hershman (whiteafrican.com) posted a blog defending Robert's right to his unique brand of 'journalism' and I am one of those who commented on the blog saying that one needs to take responsibility for his actions.
http://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/
Now I see where Eric was going... Oh the power of Retrospection.
I urge the Powers That Be to delicately balance and be circumspect on how they use the tools of state lest we run rough shod on the very freedoms that allow us to freely comment, post online our opinions. As Voltaire said - I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Let us all take a step back and ensure that we do not fall victim to the tyranny of the few who have decided to interpret for us what is good or bad for our beloved nation.
*Ali Hussein* *CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd* *Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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There is no law, principle or human right that safeguards anyone from 'being offended'. However, I have seen some of the posts by these bloggers and they are not in good taste! It appears to me that being a blogger in Kenya gives one the licence to make statements without minding the consequences! All the same, let the courts decide... On 28 March 2013 10:17, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
George
Agreed.
Thanks for the lesson in History..:-) I guess that usually does happen. Like the statement that is mostly attributed to JFK - Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country - That was actually made by Khalil Jibran, A Christian Arab philosopher.
*Ali Hussein*
*CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
*Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
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On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:56 AM, George Nyabuga <george@afrinic.net>wrote:
Thanks Ali for posting this. I have always wondered whether there is a crime called 'posting annoying statements'? Any statute or case law that we can rely on? I think the DPP should give direction on this as this wastes a lot of court time and ultimately our money (paying for investigations, prosecution etc.). But could be wrong but not aware of any statute or case law (common law) that makes it a crime to make annoying statements? I also saw the guy involved with Tuju being charged with making statements to 'annoy' him. I am about to sue so many people for making statements that 'annoy' me including he director of Public Communications, Ms Mary Ombara and Head of Civil Service Francis Kimemia (the latter has also 'annoyed' VP Kalonzo Musyoka and PM Raila Odinga). Take my last statement with a pinch of salt but you can see how the charges are annoying to those of us who cherish free speech.****
On a lighter note, the statement that 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it' is often wrongly attributed to Voltaire but was in fact first made by S.G. Tallentyre (real name Evelyn Beatrice Hall) who wrote Voltaire’s biography.****
Dr George Nyabuga Tel: +230 403 51 00 Head, Communications and PR, AFRINIC Fax: +230 466 67 58 george@afrinic.net - www.afrinic.net
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On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
Voltaire, the Famour French Historian and Philosopher once said
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/v/voltaire109645.html> "
I am writing this post due to the interesting times that we live in. There is a lot of emotions, bigotry, outright tribalism and jingoism being bandied around the country in many channels - Online responses to media stories, FM Station talk shows, social media, work places, bars etc. Whilst I abore the very nature of some of the discussions we have fought too hard for freedom of expression and association to blanketly condemn everything whole sale.
I have just read a story in today's nation titled *'14 Bloggers linked to hate messages'*.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/14-bloggers-linked-to-hate-messages/-/1056/1732...
The gist of the story is that the bloggers are using the anonymity of the internet to spread hate, tribalism etc.and they are being 'hunted down' like rabid dogs. What I found interesting is this particular paragraph:-
*Mr Robert Alai, a well-known blogger was on Tuesday charged with posting “annoying” statements on social media sites, Twitter and Facebook. *
For those of us who follow Robert on Social Media you may be forgiven if you think he is the 'Village Mad Man'. However he is a Kenyan and has a right to free speech. I do not excuse some of the stuff being posted online but I sincerely do hope that when one is being charged at our law courts the charge sheet does not say that he or she is charged in court for posting 'Annoying Statements'!!
A few months ago Eric Hershman (whiteafrican.com) posted a blog defending Robert's right to his unique brand of 'journalism' and I am one of those who commented on the blog saying that one needs to take responsibility for his actions.
http://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/
Now I see where Eric was going... Oh the power of Retrospection.
I urge the Powers That Be to delicately balance and be circumspect on how they use the tools of state lest we run rough shod on the very freedoms that allow us to freely comment, post online our opinions. As Voltaire said - I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Let us all take a step back and ensure that we do not fall victim to the tyranny of the few who have decided to interpret for us what is good or bad for our beloved nation.
*Ali Hussein* *CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd* *Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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The problem Moses is that that is a waste of court's time. Remember if there is no crime (according to our statutes, case law etc.) you should not be taken to court. Unless they are charged with, for example, criminal libel which is contentious anyway, they will just be acquitted. As I indicated earlier, many of us are often annoyed by statements made by public officials but we hardly take them to court or have them arrested for that matter. This is just harassment. All said, I don't condone such hurtful, invective and uncivil statements on blogs. That is why the guys cannot make the same statements in public. It's important that the bloggers be held accountable for their writings. Let's see what happens. Dr George Nyabuga Tel: +230 403 51 00 Head, Communications and PR, AFRINIC Fax: +230 466 67 58 george@afrinic.net - www.afrinic.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please join us at the Africa Internet Summit, Lusaka, Zambia, 9 – 21 June 2013 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mar 29, 2013, at 5:44 PM, "Moses M.G" <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
There is no law, principle or human right that safeguards anyone from 'being offended'. However, I have seen some of the posts by these bloggers and they are not in good taste! It appears to me that being a blogger in Kenya gives one the licence to make statements without minding the consequences! All the same, let the courts decide...
On 28 March 2013 10:17, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: George
Agreed.
Thanks for the lesson in History..:-) I guess that usually does happen. Like the statement that is mostly attributed to JFK - Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country - That was actually made by Khalil Jibran, A Christian Arab philosopher.
Ali Hussein CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd
Tel: +254713601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:56 AM, George Nyabuga <george@afrinic.net> wrote: Thanks Ali for posting this. I have always wondered whether there is a crime called 'posting annoying statements'? Any statute or case law that we can rely on? I think the DPP should give direction on this as this wastes a lot of court time and ultimately our money (paying for investigations, prosecution etc.). But could be wrong but not aware of any statute or case law (common law) that makes it a crime to make annoying statements? I also saw the guy involved with Tuju being charged with making statements to 'annoy' him. I am about to sue so many people for making statements that 'annoy' me including he director of Public Communications, Ms Mary Ombara and Head of Civil Service Francis Kimemia (the latter has also 'annoyed' VP Kalonzo Musyoka and PM Raila Odinga). Take my last statement with a pinch of salt but you can see how the charges are annoying to those of us who cherish free speech.
On a lighter note, the statement that 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it' is often wrongly attributed to Voltaire but was in fact first made by S.G. Tallentyre (real name Evelyn Beatrice Hall) who wrote Voltaire’s biography.
Dr George Nyabuga Tel: +230 403 51 00 Head, Communications and PR, AFRINIC Fax: +230 466 67 58 george@afrinic.net - www.afrinic.net
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On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
Voltaire, the Famour French Historian and Philosopher once said
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
I am writing this post due to the interesting times that we live in. There is a lot of emotions, bigotry, outright tribalism and jingoism being bandied around the country in many channels - Online responses to media stories, FM Station talk shows, social media, work places, bars etc. Whilst I abore the very nature of some of the discussions we have fought too hard for freedom of expression and association to blanketly condemn everything whole sale.
I have just read a story in today's nation titled '14 Bloggers linked to hate messages'.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/14-bloggers-linked-to-hate-messages/-/1056/1732...
The gist of the story is that the bloggers are using the anonymity of the internet to spread hate, tribalism etc.and they are being 'hunted down' like rabid dogs. What I found interesting is this particular paragraph:-
Mr Robert Alai, a well-known blogger was on Tuesday charged with posting “annoying” statements on social media sites, Twitter and Facebook.
For those of us who follow Robert on Social Media you may be forgiven if you think he is the 'Village Mad Man'. However he is a Kenyan and has a right to free speech. I do not excuse some of the stuff being posted online but I sincerely do hope that when one is being charged at our law courts the charge sheet does not say that he or she is charged in court for posting 'Annoying Statements'!!
A few months ago Eric Hershman (whiteafrican.com) posted a blog defending Robert's right to his unique brand of 'journalism' and I am one of those who commented on the blog saying that one needs to take responsibility for his actions.
http://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/
Now I see where Eric was going... Oh the power of Retrospection.
I urge the Powers That Be to delicately balance and be circumspect on how they use the tools of state lest we run rough shod on the very freedoms that allow us to freely comment, post online our opinions. As Voltaire said - I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Let us all take a step back and ensure that we do not fall victim to the tyranny of the few who have decided to interpret for us what is good or bad for our beloved nation.
Ali Hussein CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd
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+1 Ali, As for Mr. Alai - if there are charges against him, then there is probably also evidence against him as well. Let the courts settle the matter and decide whether or not he has broken laws or infringed anyone's rights. Two weeks ago I was the victim of vicious abuse from him on twitter when I asked him a question about why he was mobilizing people to return their sim cards to Safaricom. He might have a right to express himself, but not at the expense of others' rights. Mblayo On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
Voltaire, the Famour French Historian and Philosopher once said
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/v/voltaire109645.html> "
I am writing this post due to the interesting times that we live in. There is a lot of emotions, bigotry, outright tribalism and jingoism being bandied around the country in many channels - Online responses to media stories, FM Station talk shows, social media, work places, bars etc. Whilst I abore the very nature of some of the discussions we have fought too hard for freedom of expression and association to blanketly condemn everything whole sale.
I have just read a story in today's nation titled *'14 Bloggers linked to hate messages'*.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/14-bloggers-linked-to-hate-messages/-/1056/1732...
The gist of the story is that the bloggers are using the anonymity of the internet to spread hate, tribalism etc.and they are being 'hunted down' like rabid dogs. What I found interesting is this particular paragraph:-
*Mr Robert Alai, a well-known blogger was on Tuesday charged with posting “annoying” statements on social media sites, Twitter and Facebook.*
For those of us who follow Robert on Social Media you may be forgiven if you think he is the 'Village Mad Man'. However he is a Kenyan and has a right to free speech. I do not excuse some of the stuff being posted online but I sincerely do hope that when one is being charged at our law courts the charge sheet does not say that he or she is charged in court for posting 'Annoying Statements'!!
A few months ago Eric Hershman (whiteafrican.com) posted a blog defending Robert's right to his unique brand of 'journalism' and I am one of those who commented on the blog saying that one needs to take responsibility for his actions.
http://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/
Now I see where Eric was going... Oh the power of Retrospection.
I urge the Powers That Be to delicately balance and be circumspect on how they use the tools of state lest we run rough shod on the very freedoms that allow us to freely comment, post online our opinions. As Voltaire said - I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Let us all take a step back and ensure that we do not fall victim to the tyranny of the few who have decided to interpret for us what is good or bad for our beloved nation.
*Ali Hussein*
*CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
*Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
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Brian True that hence my plea to tread delicately on this issue. Otherwise we stand the risk of killing a mosquito with a hammer when what is needed is a swat..or better still taking care of the environment around us so that we don't create mosquito breeding areas... Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 773/713 601113 "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Ali,
As for Mr. Alai - if there are charges against him, then there is probably also evidence against him as well. Let the courts settle the matter and decide whether or not he has broken laws or infringed anyone's rights. Two weeks ago I was the victim of vicious abuse from him on twitter when I asked him a question about why he was mobilizing people to return their sim cards to Safaricom. He might have a right to express himself, but not at the expense of others' rights.
Mblayo
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
Voltaire, the Famour French Historian and Philosopher once said
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
I am writing this post due to the interesting times that we live in. There is a lot of emotions, bigotry, outright tribalism and jingoism being bandied around the country in many channels - Online responses to media stories, FM Station talk shows, social media, work places, bars etc. Whilst I abore the very nature of some of the discussions we have fought too hard for freedom of expression and association to blanketly condemn everything whole sale.
I have just read a story in today's nation titled '14 Bloggers linked to hate messages'.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/14-bloggers-linked-to-hate-messages/-/1056/1732...
The gist of the story is that the bloggers are using the anonymity of the internet to spread hate, tribalism etc.and they are being 'hunted down' like rabid dogs. What I found interesting is this particular paragraph:-
Mr Robert Alai, a well-known blogger was on Tuesday charged with posting “annoying” statements on social media sites, Twitter and Facebook.
For those of us who follow Robert on Social Media you may be forgiven if you think he is the 'Village Mad Man'. However he is a Kenyan and has a right to free speech. I do not excuse some of the stuff being posted online but I sincerely do hope that when one is being charged at our law courts the charge sheet does not say that he or she is charged in court for posting 'Annoying Statements'!!
A few months ago Eric Hershman (whiteafrican.com) posted a blog defending Robert's right to his unique brand of 'journalism' and I am one of those who commented on the blog saying that one needs to take responsibility for his actions.
http://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/
Now I see where Eric was going... Oh the power of Retrospection.
I urge the Powers That Be to delicately balance and be circumspect on how they use the tools of state lest we run rough shod on the very freedoms that allow us to freely comment, post online our opinions. As Voltaire said - I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Let us all take a step back and ensure that we do not fall victim to the tyranny of the few who have decided to interpret for us what is good or bad for our beloved nation.
Ali Hussein CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd
Tel: +254713601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com
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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
By my count I think that this is the fourth time the fellow is in custody because of such charges. Isn't it true that a rap sheet plays a significant part in determining the manner in which a new charge is handled? Anyway, let's see how this plays out. Brian On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brian
True that hence my plea to tread delicately on this issue. Otherwise we stand the risk of killing a mosquito with a hammer when what is needed is a swat..or better still taking care of the environment around us so that we don't create mosquito breeding areas...
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Ali,
As for Mr. Alai - if there are charges against him, then there is probably also evidence against him as well. Let the courts settle the matter and decide whether or not he has broken laws or infringed anyone's rights. Two weeks ago I was the victim of vicious abuse from him on twitter when I asked him a question about why he was mobilizing people to return their sim cards to Safaricom. He might have a right to express himself, but not at the expense of others' rights.
Mblayo
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
Voltaire, the Famour French Historian and Philosopher once said
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/v/voltaire109645.html> "
I am writing this post due to the interesting times that we live in. There is a lot of emotions, bigotry, outright tribalism and jingoism being bandied around the country in many channels - Online responses to media stories, FM Station talk shows, social media, work places, bars etc. Whilst I abore the very nature of some of the discussions we have fought too hard for freedom of expression and association to blanketly condemn everything whole sale.
I have just read a story in today's nation titled *'14 Bloggers linked to hate messages'*.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/14-bloggers-linked-to-hate-messages/-/1056/1732...
The gist of the story is that the bloggers are using the anonymity of the internet to spread hate, tribalism etc.and they are being 'hunted down' like rabid dogs. What I found interesting is this particular paragraph:-
*Mr Robert Alai, a well-known blogger was on Tuesday charged with posting “annoying” statements on social media sites, Twitter and Facebook. *
For those of us who follow Robert on Social Media you may be forgiven if you think he is the 'Village Mad Man'. However he is a Kenyan and has a right to free speech. I do not excuse some of the stuff being posted online but I sincerely do hope that when one is being charged at our law courts the charge sheet does not say that he or she is charged in court for posting 'Annoying Statements'!!
A few months ago Eric Hershman (whiteafrican.com) posted a blog defending Robert's right to his unique brand of 'journalism' and I am one of those who commented on the blog saying that one needs to take responsibility for his actions.
http://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/
Now I see where Eric was going... Oh the power of Retrospection.
I urge the Powers That Be to delicately balance and be circumspect on how they use the tools of state lest we run rough shod on the very freedoms that allow us to freely comment, post online our opinions. As Voltaire said - I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Let us all take a step back and ensure that we do not fall victim to the tyranny of the few who have decided to interpret for us what is good or bad for our beloved nation.
*Ali Hussein*
*CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
*Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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Moses M.G