Re: [kictanet] Govt to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit trade
On that note, Wachira Maina's observations here are spot on, and speak to the wider distrust we have of "tech systems" being deployed: http://newafricanmagazine.com/unrepentant-autocrats-sacrament-franchise/#sth... Regards, Nanjira. Sent on the move.
On 20 Feb 2017, at 14:04, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Kentice,
Mobile phones (with specialised encrypted software) is indeed what is used in the election Results Transmission Systems (RTS). So to that extent, Mutemi is not too far-fetched.
HOWEVER, where @Mutemi begins to be far-fetched is when he imagines any political party worth its salt would hack and doctor the content what is being transmitted as election results. Doctoring that wont help since the results sms that is send is a reflection of what is on the hard-copy tally sheets (Form 35/36).
Such a hack is not sustainable and therefore not worth investing in since the hard-copy figures will easily expose the hack.
walu. NB: there are better, easier and fruitful hacks one can invest in, like ensuring the RTS does not work in the first place :-)
From: Kentice Tikolo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Kentice Tikolo <ktikolo@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Govt to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit trade
Which mobile phones are these that will be transmitting election results? Isn't this so far-fetched?
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On 20 February 2017 at 09:48, Mutemi wa Kiama via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Thought I should share this perspective with the listers...
Sent to me via FB inbox...
And I quote...
I thought it wise to share my views with you. Tapping and listening to phone calls and reading messages may not be the main reason why the government wants access...
The question we should be asking is... why now? Why during an election year?...
My take is that.. someone wants to access the mobile phones that will be sending tallied results from polling centres so that they can doctor them before they reach IEBC. Kenyans should be vigilant on anything that happens from now onwards... till election day...Be vigilant wherever you are!!
Regards,
On 17 Feb 2017 21:30, "Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: Noting that Okiya Omtatah has filed a petition in court, and there should be a hearing on Monday.
The consumer awareness couldn’t be rolled out fast enough.
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Thank you for your prompt response. However, other than take your word for it it would also be prudent for the Telcos (Safaricom, Orange, Airtel) to also let us know their thoughts on this without fear of being victimized.
Steve? Anyone from Orange here with authority to speak? How about Airtel?
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On 17 Feb 2017, at 10:02 AM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
Dear listers,
We are aware about the misleading reports in the media. The Authority will address the media shortly to clarify and explain how the system works. There is no infringement of privacy. As a matter of fact, no information leaves the MNOs. Instead the system queries the databases (whitelist, type approved devices etc) to determine the genuineness of a device before service is given. What part of that is infringement of privacy?
We will share the statement with you to help all of you understand. No one needs to be instilled with fear that is generated by parties with vested interests. we want to eliminate illegal telecoms traffic through SIM boxing, counterfeit devices, substandard devices etc, for your good as the public. Not the other way as portrayed in the media.
Rachel
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On Feb 17, 2017, at 09:43, Grace B via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010. If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy? Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening??? On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Listers
From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions. The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers. Read on:- http://www.nation.co.ke/news/G overnment-likely-to-start-phon e-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/ index.html
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Dear Listers , The High Court has suspended the installation of the system. https://twitter.com/citizentvkenya/status/833638985205444609 Kind regards, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu Advocate-FinTech and ICT Policy On 20 Feb 2017 14:57, "Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On that note, Wachira Maina's observations here are spot on, and speak to the wider distrust we have of "tech systems" being deployed:
http://newafricanmagazine.com/unrepentant-autocrats- sacrament-franchise/#sthash.0Y551mkZ.dpuf
Regards, Nanjira.
Sent on the move.
On 20 Feb 2017, at 14:04, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Kentice,
Mobile phones (with specialised encrypted software) is indeed what is used in the election Results Transmission Systems (RTS). So to that extent, Mutemi is not too far-fetched.
HOWEVER, where @Mutemi begins to be far-fetched is when he imagines any political party worth its salt would hack and doctor the content what is being transmitted as election results. Doctoring that wont help since the results sms that is send is a reflection of what is on the hard-copy tally sheets (Form 35/36).
Such a hack is not sustainable and therefore not worth investing in since the hard-copy figures will easily expose the hack.
walu. NB: there are better, easier and fruitful hacks one can invest in, like ensuring the RTS does not work in the first place :-)
------------------------------ *From:* Kentice Tikolo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* Kentice Tikolo <ktikolo@gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2017 10:08 AM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Govt to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit trade
Which mobile phones are these that will be transmitting election results? Isn't this so far-fetched?
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On 20 February 2017 at 09:48, Mutemi wa Kiama via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thought I should share this perspective with the listers...
Sent to me via FB inbox...
And I quote...
I thought it wise to share my views with you. Tapping and listening to phone calls and reading messages may not be the main reason why the government wants access...
The question we should be asking is... why now? Why during an election year?...
My take is that.. someone wants to access the mobile phones that will be sending tallied results from polling centres so that they can doctor them before they reach IEBC. Kenyans should be vigilant on anything that happens from now onwards... till election day...Be vigilant wherever you are!!
Regards,
On 17 Feb 2017 21:30, "Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
Noting that Okiya Omtatah has filed a petition in court, and there should be a hearing on Monday.
The consumer awareness couldn’t be rolled out fast enough.
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Thank you for your prompt response. However, other than take your word for it it would also be prudent for the Telcos (Safaricom, Orange, Airtel) to also let us know their thoughts on this without fear of being victimized.
Steve? Anyone from Orange here with authority to speak? How about Airtel?
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On 17 Feb 2017, at 10:02 AM, Alwala, Rachel via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
Dear listers,
We are aware about the misleading reports in the media. The Authority will address the media shortly to clarify and explain how the system works. There is no infringement of privacy. As a matter of fact, no information leaves the MNOs. Instead the system queries the databases (whitelist, type approved devices etc) to determine the genuineness of a device before service is given. What part of that is infringement of privacy?
We will share the statement with you to help all of you understand. No one needs to be instilled with fear that is generated by parties with vested interests. we want to eliminate illegal telecoms traffic through SIM boxing, counterfeit devices, substandard devices etc, for your good as the public. Not the other way as portrayed in the media.
Rachel
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On Feb 17, 2017, at 09:43, Grace B via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010. If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy? Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening??? On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers
From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions. The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers. Read on:- http://www.nation.co.ke/news/G overnment-likely-to-start-phon e-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/ index.html <http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Government-likely-to-start-phone-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/index.html>
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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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Nanjira Sambuli
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Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu