Should Kenya bite the bullet and roll back the Telkom Kenya Privatisation?
Listers By all intents and purposes this privatisation has not worked. Maybe we should go the Rwanda way and roll back the dice... http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Treasury-ignored-AG-advice-on-Telkom-deal/-... Lessons learnt? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb Sent from my iPad
Has Kenya really gotten anything from that Telkom deal? Orange has no real plans for the Kenyan market, and worse the management teams they recommend over are either totally incompetent or really don't care about the state of Telkom Kenya. What options do we have? 1. Let it go... Simply pull out. Cut our losses and ran. Indicate to Orange we will not make anymore investment if we are not in-charge of it. If this whittles down our shareholding to 0, so be it. Sometime though, I feel as if this is exactly what Orange wants, then they can revive it nicely. 2. Kick them out. They simply have failed to deliver, then rebuild Telkom as a Kenyan Parastatal that leads in technology and innovation and ofcourse support it with certain preferences and especially so in Government jobs and build a local 'M-Pesa' that is then used to make most of these government transactions that we're supposed to be onto by 1st April 2014 (Could it be an April fools joke bytway???) Waithaka Ngigi A1.iO On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
By all intents and purposes this privatisation has not worked. Maybe we should go the Rwanda way and roll back the dice...
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Treasury-ignored-AG-advice-on-Telkom-deal/-...
Lessons learnt?
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb
Sent from my iPad
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+1 on 1 -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:50 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Has Kenya really gotten anything from that Telkom deal? Orange has no real plans for the Kenyan market, and worse the management teams they recommend over are either totally incompetent or really don't care about the state of Telkom Kenya.
What options do we have? 1. Let it go... Simply pull out. Cut our losses and ran. Indicate to Orange we will not make anymore investment if we are not in-charge of it. If this whittles down our shareholding to 0, so be it. Sometime though, I feel as if this is exactly what Orange wants, then they can revive it nicely. 2. Kick them out. They simply have failed to deliver, then rebuild Telkom as a Kenyan Parastatal that leads in technology and innovation and ofcourse support it with certain preferences and especially so in Government jobs and build a local 'M-Pesa' that is then used to make most of these government transactions that we're supposed to be onto by 1st April 2014 (Could it be an April fools joke bytway???)
Waithaka Ngigi A1.iO
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
By all intents and purposes this privatisation has not worked. Maybe we should go the Rwanda way and roll back the dice...
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Treasury-ignored-AG-advice-on-Telkom-deal/-...
Lessons learnt?
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb
Sent from my iPad
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I am also of the idea that we kick them out. They are probably after getting 100 % ownership tat way 100 % profits can flow back o the mothership. Just have a look at how the French operate in West Africa to get a clue. Kicking Orange out will not result in collapse of our economy whether it is by direct investment or tourist no.s. Its becoming rather ridiculous and I dont think ceding control to them is an option. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Has Kenya really gotten anything from that Telkom deal? Orange has no real plans for the Kenyan market, and worse the management teams they recommend over are either totally incompetent or really don't care about the state of Telkom Kenya.
What options do we have? 1. Let it go... Simply pull out. Cut our losses and ran. Indicate to Orange we will not make anymore investment if we are not in-charge of it. If this whittles down our shareholding to 0, so be it. Sometime though, I feel as if this is exactly what Orange wants, then they can revive it nicely. 2. Kick them out. They simply have failed to deliver, then rebuild Telkom as a Kenyan Parastatal that leads in technology and innovation and ofcourse support it with certain preferences and especially so in Government jobs and build a local 'M-Pesa' that is then used to make most of these government transactions that we're supposed to be onto by 1st April 2014 (Could it be an April fools joke bytway???)
Waithaka Ngigi A1.iO
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
By all intents and purposes this privatisation has not worked. Maybe we should go the Rwanda way and roll back the dice...
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Treasury-ignored-AG-advice-on-Telkom-deal/-...
Lessons learnt?
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb
Sent from my iPad
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Is there no third alternative. Do we really want to say that the only option is to kick them out ?? Are we sure they are the only party at fault ? Badru Ntege Sent from my Mobile On 14 Nov 2013, at 11:36, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com<mailto:mwangy@gmail.com>> wrote: I am also of the idea that we kick them out. They are probably after getting 100 % ownership tat way 100 % profits can flow back o the mothership. Just have a look at how the French operate in West Africa to get a clue. Kicking Orange out will not result in collapse of our economy whether it is by direct investment or tourist no.s. Its becoming rather ridiculous and I dont think ceding control to them is an option. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke<mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke>> wrote: Has Kenya really gotten anything from that Telkom deal? Orange has no real plans for the Kenyan market, and worse the management teams they recommend over are either totally incompetent or really don't care about the state of Telkom Kenya. What options do we have? 1. Let it go... Simply pull out. Cut our losses and ran. Indicate to Orange we will not make anymore investment if we are not in-charge of it. If this whittles down our shareholding to 0, so be it. Sometime though, I feel as if this is exactly what Orange wants, then they can revive it nicely. 2. Kick them out. They simply have failed to deliver, then rebuild Telkom as a Kenyan Parastatal that leads in technology and innovation and ofcourse support it with certain preferences and especially so in Government jobs and build a local 'M-Pesa' that is then used to make most of these government transactions that we're supposed to be onto by 1st April 2014 (Could it be an April fools joke bytway???) Waithaka Ngigi A1.iO On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> wrote: Listers By all intents and purposes this privatisation has not worked. Maybe we should go the Rwanda way and roll back the dice... http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Treasury-ignored-AG-advice-on-Telkom-deal/-... Lessons learnt? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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Adam Nelson -
Ali Hussein -
Badru Ntege -
Mark Mwangi -
Ngigi Waithaka