Re: [kictanet] Day 12 of 12 -- BPO Discussions, Wrapping Up???
David et al, Ok. for once I dont know what to say. But only recall that when two bulls begin to fight it is the grass that suffers. I dont think this is the kind of "wrapping up" that Nyaki meant when she wrote the above subject line. So maybe the two can agree to meet offline and continue the discussion on if, how and why the money was returned? Unless ofcourse the Listers want that discussion - in which case it must be formally requested, scheduled and moderated. walu. --- On Thu, 6/18/09, David Otwoma <otwomad@gmail.com> wrote:
From: David Otwoma <otwomad@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 12 of 12 -- BPO Discussions, Wrapping Up To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 3:38 PM Dear Dr. Ndemo, With all due respect, you appear to lose me here. The partial statement you qoute below comes from http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/-/539552/608168/-/item/1/-/3te68rz/-/inde...
As regards, formal apology, please let me know if it is to be directed to:- (a) your person (individual), (b) your official capacity, (c) organizers of the just ended BPO discussion, (d) Kicktanet list owners and listers, (e) all the above or more than one of the above. The above is without prejudice and as the case(s) may be will be addressed accordingly. Finally, and if your permit, on appropriate forum we may debate the reasons monies are returned/recalled to Treasury year in year out. Is it by accident or design? 2009 its famine. 2008 it was IDPs. ......1999 it was drought....1991 it was land clashes. Is it by accident or design?
Kind regards, David
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:40 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
David, You very clearly stated "in ICT there seems to be laxity" where 500 nillion is being returned to Treasury. The story very clearly states the reason why Treasury had to reallocate the budget.
The motives in your earlier post were not good because you are in a postion to know better and you should. I actually expect a formal apology.
Ndemo.
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you spoke like two wise men Walu, let te matter rest :-) On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
David et al,
Ok. for once I dont know what to say. But only recall that when two bulls begin to fight it is the grass that suffers. I dont think this is the kind of "wrapping up" that Nyaki meant when she wrote the above subject line.
So maybe the two can agree to meet offline and continue the discussion on if, how and why the money was returned? Unless ofcourse the Listers want that discussion - in which case it must be formally requested, scheduled and moderated.
walu.
--- On Thu, 6/18/09, David Otwoma <otwomad@gmail.com> wrote:
From: David Otwoma <otwomad@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 12 of 12 -- BPO Discussions, Wrapping Up To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 3:38 PM Dear Dr. Ndemo,
With all due respect, you appear to lose me here.
The partial statement you qoute below comes from http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/-/539552/608168/-/item/1/-/3te68rz/-/inde...
As regards, formal apology, please let me know if it is to be directed to:-
(a) your person (individual),
(b) your official capacity,
(c) organizers of the just ended BPO discussion,
(d) Kicktanet list owners and listers,
(e) all the above or more than one of the above.
The above is without prejudice and as the case(s) may be will be addressed accordingly.
Finally, and if your permit, on appropriate forum we may debate the reasons monies are returned/recalled to Treasury year in year out. Is it by accident or design? 2009 its famine. 2008 it was IDPs. ......1999 it was drought....1991 it was land clashes. Is it by accident or design?
Kind regards,
David
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:40 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
David, You very clearly stated "in ICT there seems to be laxity" where 500 nillion is being returned to Treasury. The story very clearly states the reason why Treasury had to reallocate the budget.
The motives in your earlier post were not good because you are in a postion to know better and you should. I actually expect a formal apology.
Ndemo.
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Walu, *"But only recall that when two bulls begin to fight it is the grass that suffers."* The last time I witnessed two bulls fighting not only did the grass suffer. The weaker one blew more dust. Kamotho On 6/19/09, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
David et al,
Ok. for once I dont know what to say. But only recall that when two bulls begin to fight it is the grass that suffers. I dont think this is the kind of "wrapping up" that Nyaki meant when she wrote the above subject line.
So maybe the two can agree to meet offline and continue the discussion on if, how and why the money was returned? Unless ofcourse the Listers want that discussion - in which case it must be formally requested, scheduled and moderated.
walu.
--- On Thu, 6/18/09, David Otwoma <otwomad@gmail.com> wrote:
From: David Otwoma <otwomad@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 12 of 12 -- BPO Discussions, Wrapping Up To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 3:38 PM Dear Dr. Ndemo,
With all due respect, you appear to lose me here.
The partial statement you qoute below comes from http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/-/539552/608168/-/item/1/-/3te68rz/-/inde...
As regards, formal apology, please let me know if it is to be directed to:-
(a) your person (individual),
(b) your official capacity,
(c) organizers of the just ended BPO discussion,
(d) Kicktanet list owners and listers,
(e) all the above or more than one of the above.
The above is without prejudice and as the case(s) may be will be addressed accordingly.
Finally, and if your permit, on appropriate forum we may debate the reasons monies are returned/recalled to Treasury year in year out. Is it by accident or design? 2009 its famine. 2008 it was IDPs. ......1999 it was drought....1991 it was land clashes. Is it by accident or design?
Kind regards,
David
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:40 AM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
David, You very clearly stated "in ICT there seems to be laxity" where 500 nillion is being returned to Treasury. The story very clearly states the reason why Treasury had to reallocate the budget.
The motives in your earlier post were not good because you are in a postion to know better and you should. I actually expect a formal apology.
Ndemo.
Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:49:42 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
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