I stand by the helpless
-------Start------- To you the tribes of the world I write this plea All you black tribes, white tribes, Asian tribes Economic tribes, power tribes, elitism tribes Every tribal king, queen, knight, and drones I am tired of every all selfish ethnocentrisms I am fed up with your foolish and lost ways I denounce your wickedness and rise up I fear not you archaic blurred tribal lenses Open your eyes to the blood rivers flowing See the horror in childrens eyes ask why? Look at the children straight in the eyes Tell why they will never see their parents Feel the pain in your grandmother's soul Tell her why? oh why? she needs your answer She needs to know for what and it is worth Tell her when enough blood will be spilled See them sleeping out in the cold with no blankets Have no clothes yet had about enough last week In dark of chilly nights trembling But not from cold
From terror of political wickedness and its evils
They have no basin, no water, no soap, They've lost friends and neighbours for ever Is one innocent life loss worth anything ? Tell me their lives are meaningless to you? Go to clinics and wards; see them lying, Wounded and bleeding, crying and frail, Sickly but not of natural but your causes Starving with much food in our reserves Looking up in prayer only crying to God I say loudly to you all the politicians You promised us much in campaign You and your promises are hollow When now are doing next-to-nothing Go round the country once again now Preaching peach, unity and selflessness Wherever you flew campaigning return Console just turned widows and orphans Made homeless by senseless barbarism Give children food clothes and food Shelter, home, hope and make friends Unless they were only useful then With problems you abandon forever Go! else never open you mouth ever My radio sing me a song of love My radio please play me a song, One sung by Jonathan Butler We must Heal Our Land Today Heal our land today, don't delay.. For this land is big enough for all of us It has enough to feed and house everyone It is beautiful enough for all of us to see It is endowed rich cultural diversity With a heritage and traditions of peace Cultures flowing with love and kindness I stand firm condemning violence to citizens. Stand up also and say no to political violence PEACE! Alex Gakuru -------Ends-------
Hello Alex, I do feel that some of the material you are posting on the KICTANet list are out of scope of what the list was intended for. As the list admin, I'd like to request you to try and be "in context". I believe you can post these on other platforms. For instance, http://politics.nationmedia.com/ has a BLOGS section, which I feel is better suited for this kind of information. Sorry if you feel I'm crossing your path. On Jan 2, 2008 9:19 PM, Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
-------Start-------
To you the tribes of the world I write this plea All you black tribes, white tribes, Asian tribes Economic tribes, power tribes, elitism tribes Every tribal king, queen, knight, and drones
I am tired of every all selfish ethnocentrisms I am fed up with your foolish and lost ways I denounce your wickedness and rise up I fear not you archaic blurred tribal lenses
Open your eyes to the blood rivers flowing See the horror in childrens eyes ask why? Look at the children straight in the eyes Tell why they will never see their parents
Feel the pain in your grandmother's soul Tell her why? oh why? she needs your answer She needs to know for what and it is worth Tell her when enough blood will be spilled
See them sleeping out in the cold with no blankets Have no clothes yet had about enough last week In dark of chilly nights trembling But not from cold
From terror of political wickedness and its evils
They have no basin, no water, no soap, They've lost friends and neighbours for ever Is one innocent life loss worth anything ? Tell me their lives are meaningless to you?
Go to clinics and wards; see them lying, Wounded and bleeding, crying and frail, Sickly but not of natural but your causes Starving with much food in our reserves Looking up in prayer only crying to God
I say loudly to you all the politicians You promised us much in campaign You and your promises are hollow When now are doing next-to-nothing
Go round the country once again now Preaching peach, unity and selflessness Wherever you flew campaigning return Console just turned widows and orphans Made homeless by senseless barbarism
Give children food clothes and food Shelter, home, hope and make friends Unless they were only useful then With problems you abandon forever Go! else never open you mouth ever
My radio sing me a song of love
My radio please play me a song, One sung by Jonathan Butler We must Heal Our Land Today Heal our land today, don't delay..
For this land is big enough for all of us It has enough to feed and house everyone It is beautiful enough for all of us to see It is endowed rich cultural diversity With a heritage and traditions of peace Cultures flowing with love and kindness
I stand firm condemning violence to citizens.
Stand up also and say no to political violence
PEACE!
Alex Gakuru -------Ends-------
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post
Washington, Please explain to me you list "admin" role because prior to sending the message in question to the list I had first sought opinion of the list moderators. I believe it would also be fair to request that you specifically point out the words, sentences, or the "in context" you mean for me to be able to understand whatever the problem with any post might be. Alternatively, if list rules exist, you could publish them so that everyone scrutinizes their posts to applicable rules? And this is not about crossing feelings paths but seeking an understanding of the role of list admin regards "in context" or "acceptable" types of opinions and expressions expected from kictanet subscribers. Asante, On Jan 7, 2008 12:27 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Alex,
I do feel that some of the material you are posting on the KICTANet list are out of scope of what the list was intended for. As the list admin, I'd like to request you to try and be "in context". I believe you can post these on other platforms. For instance, http://politics.nationmedia.com/ has a BLOGS section, which I feel is better suited for this kind of information. Sorry if you feel I'm crossing your path.
On Jan 2, 2008 9:19 PM, Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
-------Start-------
To you the tribes of the world I write this plea All you black tribes, white tribes, Asian tribes Economic tribes, power tribes, elitism tribes Every tribal king, queen, knight, and drones
I am tired of every all selfish ethnocentrisms I am fed up with your foolish and lost ways I denounce your wickedness and rise up I fear not you archaic blurred tribal lenses
Open your eyes to the blood rivers flowing See the horror in childrens eyes ask why? Look at the children straight in the eyes Tell why they will never see their parents
Feel the pain in your grandmother's soul Tell her why? oh why? she needs your answer She needs to know for what and it is worth Tell her when enough blood will be spilled
See them sleeping out in the cold with no blankets Have no clothes yet had about enough last week In dark of chilly nights trembling But not from cold
From terror of political wickedness and its evils
They have no basin, no water, no soap, They've lost friends and neighbours for ever Is one innocent life loss worth anything ? Tell me their lives are meaningless to you?
Go to clinics and wards; see them lying, Wounded and bleeding, crying and frail, Sickly but not of natural but your causes Starving with much food in our reserves Looking up in prayer only crying to God
I say loudly to you all the politicians You promised us much in campaign You and your promises are hollow When now are doing next-to-nothing
Go round the country once again now Preaching peach, unity and selflessness Wherever you flew campaigning return Console just turned widows and orphans Made homeless by senseless barbarism
Give children food clothes and food Shelter, home, hope and make friends Unless they were only useful then With problems you abandon forever Go! else never open you mouth ever
My radio sing me a song of love
My radio please play me a song, One sung by Jonathan Butler We must Heal Our Land Today Heal our land today, don't delay..
For this land is big enough for all of us It has enough to feed and house everyone It is beautiful enough for all of us to see It is endowed rich cultural diversity With a heritage and traditions of peace Cultures flowing with love and kindness
I stand firm condemning violence to citizens.
Stand up also and say no to political violence
PEACE!
Alex Gakuru -------Ends-------
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
"Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post
Hello Alex, I made specific reference to the poem. It the list context, this is junk mail. The specific list you posted this to was meant for " KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions", not poems:-) Unless you feel your poem still falls within the list context.... On Jan 7, 2008 12:49 PM, Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Washington,
Please explain to me you list "admin" role because prior to sending the message in question to the list I had first sought opinion of the list moderators.
I believe it would also be fair to request that you specifically point out the words, sentences, or the "in context" you mean for me to be able to understand whatever the problem with any post might be. Alternatively, if list rules exist, you could publish them so that everyone scrutinizes their posts to applicable rules?
And this is not about crossing feelings paths but seeking an understanding of the role of list admin regards "in context" or "acceptable" types of opinions and expressions expected from kictanet subscribers.
Asante,
On Jan 7, 2008 12:27 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Alex,
I do feel that some of the material you are posting on the KICTANet list are out of scope of what the list was intended for. As the list admin, I'd like to request you to try and be "in context". I believe you can post these on other platforms. For instance, http://politics.nationmedia.com/ has a BLOGS section, which I feel is better suited for this kind of information. Sorry if you feel I'm crossing your path.
On Jan 2, 2008 9:19 PM, Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
-------Start-------
To you the tribes of the world I write this plea All you black tribes, white tribes, Asian tribes Economic tribes, power tribes, elitism tribes Every tribal king, queen, knight, and drones
I am tired of every all selfish ethnocentrisms I am fed up with your foolish and lost ways I denounce your wickedness and rise up I fear not you archaic blurred tribal lenses
Open your eyes to the blood rivers flowing See the horror in childrens eyes ask why? Look at the children straight in the eyes Tell why they will never see their parents
Feel the pain in your grandmother's soul Tell her why? oh why? she needs your answer She needs to know for what and it is worth Tell her when enough blood will be spilled
See them sleeping out in the cold with no blankets Have no clothes yet had about enough last week In dark of chilly nights trembling But not from cold
From terror of political wickedness and its evils
They have no basin, no water, no soap, They've lost friends and neighbours for ever Is one innocent life loss worth anything ? Tell me their lives are meaningless to you?
Go to clinics and wards; see them lying, Wounded and bleeding, crying and frail, Sickly but not of natural but your causes Starving with much food in our reserves Looking up in prayer only crying to God
I say loudly to you all the politicians You promised us much in campaign You and your promises are hollow When now are doing next-to-nothing
Go round the country once again now Preaching peach, unity and selflessness Wherever you flew campaigning return Console just turned widows and orphans Made homeless by senseless barbarism
Give children food clothes and food Shelter, home, hope and make friends Unless they were only useful then With problems you abandon forever Go! else never open you mouth ever
My radio sing me a song of love
My radio please play me a song, One sung by Jonathan Butler We must Heal Our Land Today Heal our land today, don't delay..
For this land is big enough for all of us It has enough to feed and house everyone It is beautiful enough for all of us to see It is endowed rich cultural diversity With a heritage and traditions of peace Cultures flowing with love and kindness
I stand firm condemning violence to citizens.
Stand up also and say no to political violence
PEACE!
Alex Gakuru -------Ends-------
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
"Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post
Therefore you singly rubbish the clearance sought prior and granted by the list moderators in your admin capacity? It is necessary to understand this because if all posts must meet your yet to be published approval standards then this list moderators should resign and hand the list to you? Anyway, I stand by my post and if you feel personally offended to provoke your admin privileges of banning me, please go ahead to avoid this escalating any further. There are enough fights already out there and I do not need another on-line war front. I rest my case. Thanks, On Jan 7, 2008 3:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Alex,
I made specific reference to the poem. It the list context, this is junk mail. The specific list you posted this to was meant for " KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions", not poems:-) Unless you feel your poem still falls within the list context....
On Jan 7, 2008 12:49 PM, Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Washington,
Please explain to me you list "admin" role because prior to sending the message in question to the list I had first sought opinion of the list moderators.
I believe it would also be fair to request that you specifically point out the words, sentences, or the "in context" you mean for me to be able to understand whatever the problem with any post might be. Alternatively, if list rules exist, you could publish them so that everyone scrutinizes their posts to applicable rules?
And this is not about crossing feelings paths but seeking an understanding of the role of list admin regards "in context" or "acceptable" types of opinions and expressions expected from kictanet subscribers.
Asante,
On Jan 7, 2008 12:27 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Alex,
I do feel that some of the material you are posting on the KICTANet list are out of scope of what the list was intended for. As the list admin, I'd like to request you to try and be "in context". I believe you can post these on other platforms. For instance, http://politics.nationmedia.com/ has a BLOGS section, which I feel is better suited for this kind of information. Sorry if you feel I'm crossing your path.
On Jan 2, 2008 9:19 PM, Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
-------Start-------
To you the tribes of the world I write this plea All you black tribes, white tribes, Asian tribes Economic tribes, power tribes, elitism tribes Every tribal king, queen, knight, and drones
I am tired of every all selfish ethnocentrisms I am fed up with your foolish and lost ways I denounce your wickedness and rise up I fear not you archaic blurred tribal lenses
Open your eyes to the blood rivers flowing See the horror in childrens eyes ask why? Look at the children straight in the eyes Tell why they will never see their parents
Feel the pain in your grandmother's soul Tell her why? oh why? she needs your answer She needs to know for what and it is worth Tell her when enough blood will be spilled
See them sleeping out in the cold with no blankets Have no clothes yet had about enough last week In dark of chilly nights trembling But not from cold
From terror of political wickedness and its evils
They have no basin, no water, no soap, They've lost friends and neighbours for ever Is one innocent life loss worth anything ? Tell me their lives are meaningless to you?
Go to clinics and wards; see them lying, Wounded and bleeding, crying and frail, Sickly but not of natural but your causes Starving with much food in our reserves Looking up in prayer only crying to God
I say loudly to you all the politicians You promised us much in campaign You and your promises are hollow When now are doing next-to-nothing
Go round the country once again now Preaching peach, unity and selflessness Wherever you flew campaigning return Console just turned widows and orphans Made homeless by senseless barbarism
Give children food clothes and food Shelter, home, hope and make friends Unless they were only useful then With problems you abandon forever Go! else never open you mouth ever
My radio sing me a song of love
My radio please play me a song, One sung by Jonathan Butler We must Heal Our Land Today Heal our land today, don't delay..
For this land is big enough for all of us It has enough to feed and house everyone It is beautiful enough for all of us to see It is endowed rich cultural diversity With a heritage and traditions of peace Cultures flowing with love and kindness
I stand firm condemning violence to citizens.
Stand up also and say no to political violence
PEACE!
Alex Gakuru -------Ends-------
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
This message was sent to: odhiambo@gmail.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
"Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post
--
Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
"Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post
That is not what I meant. Well, I believe the easiest way out of this is to accept the fact that you obtained prior approval from the list moderators. However, perhaps there should be some means of letting other list members know that some content they find out of context has been approved, Walu? Alex, please let's rest this case at this point. You win, I loose! On Jan 7, 2008 3:45 PM, Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Therefore you singly rubbish the clearance sought prior and granted by the list moderators in your admin capacity? It is necessary to understand this because if all posts must meet your yet to be published approval standards then this list moderators should resign and hand the list to you?
Anyway, I stand by my post and if you feel personally offended to provoke your admin privileges of banning me, please go ahead to avoid this escalating any further. There are enough fights already out there and I do not need another on-line war front.
I rest my case.
Thanks,
On Jan 7, 2008 3:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Alex,
I made specific reference to the poem. It the list context, this is junk mail. The specific list you posted this to was meant for " KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions", not poems:-) Unless you feel your poem still falls within the list context....
On Jan 7, 2008 12:49 PM, Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Washington,
Please explain to me you list "admin" role because prior to sending the message in question to the list I had first sought opinion of the list moderators.
I believe it would also be fair to request that you specifically point out the words, sentences, or the "in context" you mean for me to be able to understand whatever the problem with any post might be. Alternatively, if list rules exist, you could publish them so that everyone scrutinizes their posts to applicable rules?
And this is not about crossing feelings paths but seeking an understanding of the role of list admin regards "in context" or "acceptable" types of opinions and expressions expected from kictanet subscribers.
Asante,
On Jan 7, 2008 12:27 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Alex,
I do feel that some of the material you are posting on the KICTANet list are out of scope of what the list was intended for. As the list admin, I'd like to request you to try and be "in context". I believe you can post these on other platforms. For instance, http://politics.nationmedia.com/ has a BLOGS section, which I feel is better suited for this kind of information. Sorry if you feel I'm crossing your path.
On Jan 2, 2008 9:19 PM, Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
-------Start-------
To you the tribes of the world I write this plea All you black tribes, white tribes, Asian tribes Economic tribes, power tribes, elitism tribes Every tribal king, queen, knight, and drones
I am tired of every all selfish ethnocentrisms I am fed up with your foolish and lost ways I denounce your wickedness and rise up I fear not you archaic blurred tribal lenses
Open your eyes to the blood rivers flowing See the horror in childrens eyes ask why? Look at the children straight in the eyes Tell why they will never see their parents
Feel the pain in your grandmother's soul Tell her why? oh why? she needs your answer She needs to know for what and it is worth Tell her when enough blood will be spilled
See them sleeping out in the cold with no blankets Have no clothes yet had about enough last week In dark of chilly nights trembling But not from cold
From terror of political wickedness and its evils
They have no basin, no water, no soap, They've lost friends and neighbours for ever Is one innocent life loss worth anything ? Tell me their lives are meaningless to you?
Go to clinics and wards; see them lying, Wounded and bleeding, crying and frail, Sickly but not of natural but your causes Starving with much food in our reserves Looking up in prayer only crying to God
I say loudly to you all the politicians You promised us much in campaign You and your promises are hollow When now are doing next-to-nothing
Go round the country once again now Preaching peach, unity and selflessness Wherever you flew campaigning return Console just turned widows and orphans Made homeless by senseless barbarism
Give children food clothes and food Shelter, home, hope and make friends Unless they were only useful then With problems you abandon forever Go! else never open you mouth ever
My radio sing me a song of love
My radio please play me a song, One sung by Jonathan Butler We must Heal Our Land Today Heal our land today, don't delay..
For this land is big enough for all of us It has enough to feed and house everyone It is beautiful enough for all of us to see It is endowed rich cultural diversity With a heritage and traditions of peace Cultures flowing with love and kindness
I stand firm condemning violence to citizens.
Stand up also and say no to political violence
PEACE!
Alex Gakuru -------Ends-------
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
"Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post
--
Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
"Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post
Yes Wash, In view of the recent political developments, the list being largely Kenyan could not ignore the facts that our country was burning and going to the dogs. Any 'Peace' related message was therefore kindly welcome and I believe members would tolerate any 'peaceful' diversion in our deliberation in the interim. walu. --- Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
That is not what I meant. Well, I believe the easiest way out of this is to accept the fact that you obtained prior approval from the list moderators. However, perhaps there should be some means of letting other list members know that some content they find out of context has been approved, Walu? Alex, please let's rest this case at this point. You win, I loose!
Therefore you singly rubbish the clearance sought prior and granted by the list moderators in your admin capacity? It is necessary to understand this because if all posts must meet your yet to be published approval standards then this list moderators should resign and hand the list to you?
Anyway, I stand by my post and if you feel personally offended to provoke your admin privileges of banning me, please go ahead to avoid this escalating any further. There are enough fights already out there and I do not need another on-line war front.
I rest my case.
Thanks,
On Jan 7, 2008 3:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Alex,
I made specific reference to the poem. It the list context, this is junk mail. The specific
this to was meant for " KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions", not poems:-) Unless you feel your poem still falls within the list context....
On Jan 7, 2008 12:49 PM, Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Washington,
Please explain to me you list "admin" role because
the message in question to the list I had first sought opinion of the list moderators.
I believe it would also be fair to request that you specifically point out the words, sentences, or the "in context" you mean for me to be able to understand whatever the problem with any
Alternatively, if list rules exist, you could
everyone scrutinizes their posts to applicable rules?
And this is not about crossing feelings paths but seeking an understanding of the role of list admin regards "in context" or "acceptable" types of opinions and expressions expected from kictanet subscribers.
Asante,
On Jan 7, 2008 12:27 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Alex,
I do feel that some of the material you are
list are out of scope of what the list was intended for. As the list admin, I'd like to request you to try and be "in context". I believe you can post these on other platforms. For instance, http://politics.nationmedia.com/ has a BLOGS
better suited for this kind of information. Sorry if you feel I'm crossing your path.
On Jan 2, 2008 9:19 PM, Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
-------Start-------
To you the tribes of the world I write this
All you black tribes, white tribes, Asian
On Jan 7, 2008 3:45 PM, Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote: list you posted prior to sending post might be. publish them so that posting on the KICTANet section, which I feel is plea tribes
Economic tribes, power tribes, elitism tribes Every tribal king, queen, knight, and drones
I am tired of every all selfish ethnocentrisms I am fed up with your foolish and lost ways I denounce your wickedness and rise up I fear not you archaic blurred tribal lenses
Open your eyes to the blood rivers flowing See the horror in childrens eyes ask why? Look at the children straight in the eyes Tell why they will never see their parents
Feel the pain in your grandmother's soul Tell her why? oh why? she needs your answer She needs to know for what and it is worth Tell her when enough blood will be spilled
See them sleeping out in the cold with no blankets Have no clothes yet had about enough last week In dark of chilly nights trembling But not from
cold > > > > > >From terror of political wickedness and its evils > > > > > > > > > > They have no basin, no water, no soap, > > > > > They've lost friends and neighbours for ever > > > > > Is one innocent life loss worth anything ? > > > > > Tell me their lives are meaningless to you? > > > > > > > > > > Go to clinics and wards; see them lying, > > > > > Wounded and bleeding, crying and frail, > > > > > Sickly but not of natural but your causes > > > > > Starving with much food in our reserves > > > > > Looking up in prayer only crying to God > > > > > > > > > > I say loudly to you all the politicians > > > > > You promised us much in campaign > > > > > You and your promises are hollow > > > > > When now are doing next-to-nothing > > > > > > > > > > Go round the country once again now > > > > > Preaching peach, unity and selflessness > > > > > Wherever you flew campaigning return > > > > > Console just turned widows and orphans > > > > > Made homeless by senseless barbarism > > > > > > > > > > Give children food clothes and food > > > > > Shelter, home, hope and make friends > > > > > Unless they were only useful then > > > > > With problems you abandon forever > > > > > Go! else never open you mouth ever > > > > > > > > > > My radio sing me a song of love > > > > > > > > > > My radio please play me a song, > > > > > One sung by Jonathan Butler > > > > > We must Heal Our Land Today > > > > > Heal our land today, don't delay.. > > > > > > > > > > For this land is big enough for all of us > > > > > It has enough to feed and house everyone > > > > > It is beautiful enough for all of us to see > > > > > It is endowed rich cultural diversity > > > > > With a heritage and traditions of peace > > > > > Cultures flowing with love and kindness > > > > > > > > > > I stand firm condemning violence to citizens. > > > > > > > > > > Stand up also and say no to political violence > > > > > > > > > > PEACE! > > > > > > > > > > Alex Gakuru > > > > > -------Ends------- > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > kictanet mailing list > > > > > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > > > > > > > This message was sent to: odhiambo@gmail.com > > > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at
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--- John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yes Wash,
Any 'Peace' related message was therefore kindly welcome and I believe members would tolerate any 'peaceful' diversion in our deliberation in the interim.
walu. --- Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Alex, please let's rest this case at this point. You win, I loose!
Hey! Take it easy Wash. You know me, straight to the point, always. That's a gone issue now. Best, Alex ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Hi all Agree heartily with Walu. We have a politically instigated crisis on our hands that is affecting every sphere of our lives and therefore this list among other platforms must offer a space for Kenyans and others to share their concerns, messages of peace, solutions as well as accurate information. To go even further, I would like to encourage discussions on "What it would take to make a better Kenya" thanks and best regards alice munyua John Walubengo wrote:
Yes Wash,
In view of the recent political developments, the list being largely Kenyan could not ignore the facts that our country was burning and going to the dogs.
Any 'Peace' related message was therefore kindly welcome and I believe members would tolerate any 'peaceful' diversion in our deliberation in the interim.
walu. --- Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
That is not what I meant. Well, I believe the easiest way out of this is to accept the fact that you obtained prior approval from the list moderators. However, perhaps there should be some means of letting other list members know that some content they find out of context has been approved, Walu? Alex, please let's rest this case at this point. You win, I loose!
On Jan 7, 2008 3:45 PM, Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Therefore you singly rubbish the clearance sought prior
and granted by
the list moderators in your admin capacity? It is
necessary to
understand this because if all posts must meet your yet
to be
published approval standards then this list moderators
should resign
and hand the list to you?
Anyway, I stand by my post and if you feel personally
offended to
provoke your admin privileges of banning me, please go
ahead to avoid
this escalating any further. There are enough fights
already out there
and I do not need another on-line war front.
I rest my case.
Thanks,
On Jan 7, 2008 3:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington
<odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Alex,
I made specific reference to the poem. It the list context, this is junk mail. The specific
list you posted
this to was meant for " KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions", not poems:-)
Unless you feel your poem still falls within the list
context....
On Jan 7, 2008 12:49 PM, Alex Gakuru
<alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Washington,
Please explain to me you list "admin" role because
prior to sending
the message in question to the list I had first
sought opinion of the
list moderators.
I believe it would also be fair to request that you
specifically point
out the words, sentences, or the "in context" you
mean for me to be
able to understand whatever the problem with any
post might be.
Alternatively, if list rules exist, you could
publish them so that
everyone scrutinizes their posts to applicable
rules?
And this is not about crossing feelings paths but
seeking an
understanding of the role of list admin regards "in
context" or
"acceptable" types of opinions and expressions
expected from kictanet
subscribers.
Asante,
On Jan 7, 2008 12:27 PM, Odhiambo Washington
<odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Alex,
I do feel that some of the material you are
posting on the KICTANet
list are out of scope of what the list was
intended for. As the list
admin, I'd like to request you to try and be "in
context".
I believe you can post these on other platforms.
For instance,
http://politics.nationmedia.com/ has a BLOGS
section, which I feel is
better suited for this kind of information. Sorry if you feel I'm crossing your path.
On Jan 2, 2008 9:19 PM, Alex Gakuru
<alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> -------Start------- > > To you the tribes of the world I write this > plea
> All you black tribes, white tribes, Asian > tribes
> Economic tribes, power tribes, elitism tribes > Every tribal king, queen, knight, and drones > > I am tired of every all selfish ethnocentrisms > I am fed up with your foolish and lost ways > I denounce your wickedness and rise up > I fear not you archaic blurred tribal lenses > > Open your eyes to the blood rivers flowing > See the horror in childrens eyes ask why? > Look at the children straight in the eyes > Tell why they will never see their parents > > Feel the pain in your grandmother's soul > Tell her why? oh why? she needs your answer > She needs to know for what and it is worth > Tell her when enough blood will be spilled > > See them sleeping out in the cold with no > blankets
> Have no clothes yet had about enough last week > In dark of chilly nights trembling But not from >
cold
> >From terror of political wickedness and its > evils
> They have no basin, no water, no soap, > They've lost friends and neighbours for ever > Is one innocent life loss worth anything ? > Tell me their lives are meaningless to you? > > Go to clinics and wards; see them lying, > Wounded and bleeding, crying and frail, > Sickly but not of natural but your causes > Starving with much food in our reserves > Looking up in prayer only crying to God > > I say loudly to you all the politicians > You promised us much in campaign > You and your promises are hollow > When now are doing next-to-nothing > > Go round the country once again now > Preaching peach, unity and selflessness > Wherever you flew campaigning return > Console just turned widows and orphans > Made homeless by senseless barbarism > > Give children food clothes and food > Shelter, home, hope and make friends > Unless they were only useful then > With problems you abandon forever > Go! else never open you mouth ever > > My radio sing me a song of love > > My radio please play me a song, > One sung by Jonathan Butler > We must Heal Our Land Today > Heal our land today, don't delay.. > > For this land is big enough for all of us > It has enough to feed and house everyone > It is beautiful enough for all of us to see > It is endowed rich cultural diversity > With a heritage and traditions of peace > Cultures flowing with love and kindness > > I stand firm condemning violence to citizens. > > Stand up also and say no to political violence > > PEACE! > > Alex Gakuru > -------Ends------- > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
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On Jan 7, 2008 5:31 PM, alice <alice@apc.org> wrote:
Hi all
Agree heartily with Walu.
We have a politically instigated crisis on our hands that is affecting every sphere of our lives and therefore this list among other platforms must offer a space for Kenyans and others to share their concerns, messages of peace, solutions as well as accurate information.
To go even further, I would like to encourage discussions on "What it would take to make a better Kenya"
thanks and best regards
alice munyua
In that case, here are some docs that I received this morning pertaining to the same issue. I just want to say that I am still reading them to make my judgement on the proposals, as everyone else should. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post
Dear All, In the same breath forwarding 23-odd Civil Society organisations' signed views just received on ke-users list. We need everybody saying something. All the is need and your opinion counts. Guys, it's your opportunity to help fix your country. Say something..... Regards, Alex ----Begin forward ---- Saturday, January 05, 2008 Kenyans For Peace, Truth, Justice We speak in the name of Kenya's governance, human rights and legal organizations, as well as the concerned citizens who have contacted and chosen to work with us over the last week. We strongly condemn the violence that has erupted across the country following the questionable outcomes of the counting and tallying done under the electoral process. We express our deepest sympathy to all those who have been injured, raped or killed, those who have lost property, those who have been internally displaced as well as those who continue to live in fear. We are only too acutely aware that the survivors and victims continue to be those with the most to lose from the violence as well as those who least deserve to experience it— Kenya's impoverished women and men in both low-income urban areas as well as in rural areas. We are aware that the violence experienced has taken three primary forms. First, disorganized protest at the supposed results of the presidential tally. Second, instigated and organized militia activity particularly in the Rift Valley, but also through the re-activation of Mungiki in Central and Nairobi and, now,Chinkororo in Nyanza. And third, extraordinary use of force by Kenya's Police Force and General Service Unit to the extent of extrajudicial executions violating the most fundamental of freedoms and human rights—the rights to life and the safety and security of persons. We strongly condemn all three forms. We note that the violence experienced is being used to legitimize the curtailing of the most basic of freedoms and human rights—the freedoms of expression, assembly and association. These freedoms and human rights are guaranteed by international law, regional law and our own Constitution. They must be upheld at all times—especially as the exercise of these freedoms and human rights is the only way for Kenyans to legally and legitimately express their protest at the alleged presidential outcome of the electoral process. We believe that the repression and suppression of legal and legitimate forms of protest can only perpetuate further violence. It is also clear to us that, at the heart of the violence now being experienced, is a violation of other fundamental freedoms and rights directly related to the electoral processes. It is clear that the electoral anomalies and malpractices experienced during the counting and tallying of our electoral process were so grave as to alter its outcomes. Some of those electoral anomalies and malpractices were, in addition, illegal—thus rendering the supposed presidential outcome not only illegitimate but also illegal. We therefore consider Mwai Kibaki to be in office still on his first term. Our hope lies in Kenyans standing up against the travesty that has been made of the electoral process. Our hope lies in Kenyans who have, at great personal risk, and without regard to ethnicity, on principle provided security, shelter and safe passage to those Kenyans targeted by the militia activity in the Rift Valley and elsewhere. We note the domestic humanitarian efforts coordinated by the National Council of Churches of Kenya with statistical support from the Catholic Relief Services—efforts to which many individual Kenyans and Kenyan businesses have now associated themselves. We note too the domestic peace initiatives being worked on by Amani Focus, the 'Ibrahim group' (including Ambassador Kiplagat and General Sumbweiyo) and Peacenet. And we now invite other concerned citizens to join the 'peace through truth and justice' efforts being carried out by domestic governance, human rights and legal organizations. In particular, we would like to call on: 1. All efforts and initiatives to consistently stress that peace cannot and will not be achieved without electoral truth and justice; 2. All Kenyans to stand up to be counted not just for peace but also for electoral truth and justice; 3. The state to respect and uphold the rights to the freedoms of expression, assembly and association so as to ensure Kenyans protest only legally, legitimately and non-violently; 4. All politicians and political parties to immediately desist from the re-activation, support and use of militia organizations such as those active in the Rift Valley, Mungiki and Chinkororo; 5. The Ministry of Internal Security, the Police Force and the General Service Unit to exercise their duties within the boundaries of the Constitution and the law and desist from any extraordinary use of force and, in particular, extrajudicial executions; 6. The Electoral Commission of Kenya to immediately resign for having participated in and condoned a presidential electoral process so flawed as to result in our nation's current crisis; 7. African states and the rest of the international community to pressurize for mediation between the Party of National Unity and the Orange Democratic Movement on addressing the electoral travesty that has occurred; 8. The mediation process to, as its first priority, agree upon an interim electoral oversight body to conduct a forensic audit into the polling, counting and tallying process with a view to recommending, depending on its findings, a re-count, a re-tallying or a re-run within a specified time period; 9. African states and the rest of the international community to, in the interim, deny official recognition to the man sworn in as President; 10. African states and the rest of the international community to immediately revoke any and all visas for any and all of the PNU's and ODM's leadership—as well as all of their immediate family members—to ensure they remain in this country to resolve the electoral travesty that has occurred; 11. The man sworn in as President to desist from announcing a Cabinet and otherwise aggravating and inflaming the current violence. Signed: Africa Centre for Open Governance (AfriCOG) Awaaz Centre for Law and Research International (CLARION) Centre for Multiparty Democracy (CMD) Centre for Rights, Education and Awareness for Women (CREAW) (CRADLE) Constitution and Reform Education Consortium (CRECO) East African Law Society (EALS) Haki Focus Hema la Katiba Independent Medico-Legal Unit (IMLU) Innovative Lawyering Institute for Education in Democracy (IED) International Commission of Jurists (ICJ-Kenya) Kenya Human Rights Commission (KHRC) Kenya Leadership Institute (KLI) Kenya National Commission on Human Rights (KNCHR) Kituo cha Sheria Media Institute Muslim Human Rights Forum National Constitution Executive Council (NCEC) Society for International Development (SID) Urgent Action Fund (UAF)-Africa Youth Agenda
I personally don't support this statement as I find it to be overly prescriptive and leaning more towards one side of the current situation. Brian On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 18:21:55 +0300, Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
In the same breath forwarding 23-odd Civil Society organisations' signed views just received on ke-users list. We need everybody saying something. All the is need and your opinion counts. Guys, it's your opportunity to help fix your country. Say something.....
Regards,
Alex
----Begin forward ----
Saturday, January 05, 2008
Kenyans For Peace, Truth, Justice
We speak in the name of Kenya's governance, human rights and legal organizations, as well as the concerned citizens who have contacted and chosen to work with us over the last week.
We strongly condemn the violence that has erupted across the country following the questionable outcomes of the counting and tallying done under the electoral process. We express our deepest sympathy to all those who have been injured, raped or killed, those who have lost property, those who have been internally displaced as well as those who continue to live in fear. We are only too acutely aware that the survivors and victims continue to be those with the most to lose from the violence as well as those who least deserve to experience it— Kenya's impoverished women and men in both low-income urban areas as well as in rural areas.
We are aware that the violence experienced has taken three primary forms. First, disorganized protest at the supposed results of the presidential tally. Second, instigated and organized militia activity particularly in the Rift Valley, but also through the re-activation of Mungiki in Central and Nairobi and, now,Chinkororo in Nyanza. And third, extraordinary use of force by Kenya's Police Force and General Service Unit to the extent of extrajudicial executions violating the most fundamental of freedoms and human rights—the rights to life and the safety and security of persons. We strongly condemn all three forms.
We note that the violence experienced is being used to legitimize the curtailing of the most basic of freedoms and human rights—the freedoms of expression, assembly and association. These freedoms and human rights are guaranteed by international law, regional law and our own Constitution. They must be upheld at all times—especially as the exercise of these freedoms and human rights is the only way for Kenyans to legally and legitimately express their protest at the alleged presidential outcome of the electoral process. We believe that the repression and suppression of legal and legitimate forms of protest can only perpetuate further violence.
It is also clear to us that, at the heart of the violence now being experienced, is a violation of other fundamental freedoms and rights directly related to the electoral processes. It is clear that the electoral anomalies and malpractices experienced during the counting and tallying of our electoral process were so grave as to alter its outcomes. Some of those electoral anomalies and malpractices were, in addition, illegal—thus rendering the supposed presidential outcome not only illegitimate but also illegal. We therefore consider Mwai Kibaki to be in office still on his first term.
Our hope lies in Kenyans standing up against the travesty that has been made of the electoral process. Our hope lies in Kenyans who have, at great personal risk, and without regard to ethnicity, on principle provided security, shelter and safe passage to those Kenyans targeted by the militia activity in the Rift Valley and elsewhere. We note the domestic humanitarian efforts coordinated by the National Council of Churches of Kenya with statistical support from the Catholic Relief Services—efforts to which many individual Kenyans and Kenyan businesses have now associated themselves. We note too the domestic peace initiatives being worked on by Amani Focus, the 'Ibrahim group' (including Ambassador Kiplagat and General Sumbweiyo) and Peacenet. And we now invite other concerned citizens to join the 'peace through truth and justice' efforts being carried out by domestic governance, human rights and legal organizations.
In particular, we would like to call on:
1. All efforts and initiatives to consistently stress that peace cannot and will not be achieved without electoral truth and justice;
2. All Kenyans to stand up to be counted not just for peace but also for electoral truth and justice;
3. The state to respect and uphold the rights to the freedoms of expression, assembly and association so as to ensure Kenyans protest only legally, legitimately and non-violently;
4. All politicians and political parties to immediately desist from the re-activation, support and use of militia organizations such as those active in the Rift Valley, Mungiki and Chinkororo;
5. The Ministry of Internal Security, the Police Force and the General Service Unit to exercise their duties within the boundaries of the Constitution and the law and desist from any extraordinary use of force and, in particular, extrajudicial executions;
6. The Electoral Commission of Kenya to immediately resign for having participated in and condoned a presidential electoral process so flawed as to result in our nation's current crisis;
7. African states and the rest of the international community to pressurize for mediation between the Party of National Unity and the Orange Democratic Movement on addressing the electoral travesty that has occurred;
8. The mediation process to, as its first priority, agree upon an interim electoral oversight body to conduct a forensic audit into the polling, counting and tallying process with a view to recommending, depending on its findings, a re-count, a re-tallying or a re-run within a specified time period;
9. African states and the rest of the international community to, in the interim, deny official recognition to the man sworn in as President;
10. African states and the rest of the international community to immediately revoke any and all visas for any and all of the PNU's and ODM's leadership—as well as all of their immediate family members—to ensure they remain in this country to resolve the electoral travesty that has occurred;
11. The man sworn in as President to desist from announcing a Cabinet and otherwise aggravating and inflaming the current violence.
Signed:
Africa Centre for Open Governance (AfriCOG) Awaaz Centre for Law and Research International (CLARION) Centre for Multiparty Democracy (CMD) Centre for Rights, Education and Awareness for Women (CREAW) (CRADLE) Constitution and Reform Education Consortium (CRECO) East African Law Society (EALS) Haki Focus Hema la Katiba Independent Medico-Legal Unit (IMLU) Innovative Lawyering Institute for Education in Democracy (IED) International Commission of Jurists (ICJ-Kenya) Kenya Human Rights Commission (KHRC) Kenya Leadership Institute (KLI) Kenya National Commission on Human Rights (KNCHR) Kituo cha Sheria Media Institute Muslim Human Rights Forum National Constitution Executive Council (NCEC) Society for International Development (SID) Urgent Action Fund (UAF)-Africa Youth Agenda
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On Jan 7, 2008 9:55 PM, brian <brian@caret.net> wrote:
I personally don't support this statement as I find it to be overly prescriptive and leaning more towards one side of the current situation.
At this level we ought to be non-partisan and provide leadership in healing the country.
Alice posed an interesting question, here is my 1 para.... 1) A better Kenya is one where leaders put country and electorate before personal interest. 2) A better Kenya is one where we think before we act. 3) A better Kenya is one where we see ourselves as Kenyans and not as tribes. Tanzania has 120 tribes and their sense of nationhood is exemplary. 4) A better Kenya is one where our love for peace supersedes our passion for power. 5) 6) 7) .... let's see how long this list can become Brian
On Jan 8, 2008 11:03 AM, brian <brian@caret.net> wrote:
Alice posed an interesting question, here is my 1 para....
1) A better Kenya is one where leaders put country and electorate before personal interest. 2) A better Kenya is one where we think before we act. 3) A better Kenya is one where we see ourselves as Kenyans and not as tribes. Tanzania has 120 tribes and their sense of nationhood is exemplary. 4) A better Kenya is one where our love for peace supersedes our passion for power.
5. A better Kenya is where all have equal opportunities to improve their livelihoods. 6. A better Kenya is where poverty will be a thing of the past. 7. 8. -- -- Bildad Kagai MD - MediaCorp Limited Nairobi Stock Exchange [NSE] - Authorised Information Vendor Suite B2 Tetu Apartments StateHouse Avenue P. O. Box 20311-00200 Tel. 254 20 272 8332 Fax. Rendered Obsolete URL. www.mediacorpafrica.com --
On 8 Jan 2008, at 11:27, Bill Kagai wrote:
On Jan 8, 2008 11:03 AM, brian <brian@caret.net> wrote:
Alice posed an interesting question, here is my 1 para....
1) A better Kenya is one where leaders put country and electorate before personal interest. 2) A better Kenya is one where we think before we act. 3) A better Kenya is one where we see ourselves as Kenyans and not as tribes. Tanzania has 120 tribes and their sense of nationhood is exemplary. 4) A better Kenya is one where our love for peace supersedes our passion for power. 5. A better Kenya is where all have equal opportunities to improve their livelihoods. 6. A better Kenya is where poverty will be a thing of the past. 7. A better Kenya is one where we don't become MP's because we have money but because we have what it takes to be leaders. 8. A better Kenya is one where an African (like me) would come and not be seen as a Ghanaian but an African
9.
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On Jan 8, 2008 11:03 AM, brian <brian@caret.net> wrote: Alice posed an interesting question, here is my 1 para.... 1) A better Kenya is one where leaders put country and electorate before personal interest. 2) A better Kenya is one where we think before we act. 3) A better Kenya is one where we see ourselves as Kenyans and not as tribes. Tanzania has 120 tribes and their sense of nationhood is exemplary. 4) A better Kenya is one where our love for peace supersedes our passion for power. 5. A better Kenya is where all have equal opportunities to improve their livelihoods. 6. A better Kenya is where poverty will be a thing of the past. 7. A better Kenya is where justice, law and order are enforced without fear or favour 8. -- -- Bildad Kagai MD - MediaCorp Limited Nairobi Stock Exchange [NSE] - Authorised Information Vendor Suite B2 Tetu Apartments StateHouse Avenue P. O. Box 20311-00200 Tel. 254 20 272 8332 Fax. Rendered Obsolete URL. www.mediacorpafrica.com --
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On Jan 8, 2008 11:03 AM, brian <brian@caret.net> wrote:
Alice posed an interesting question, here is my 1 para....
1) A better Kenya is one where leaders put country and electorate before personal interest. 2) A better Kenya is one where we think before we act. 3) A better Kenya is one where we see ourselves as Kenyans and not as tribes. Tanzania has 120 tribes and their sense of nationhood is exemplary. 4) A better Kenya is one where our love for peace supersedes our passion for power.
5. A better Kenya is where all have equal opportunities to improve their livelihoods. 6. A better Kenya is where poverty will be a thing of the past. 7. A better Kenya is where justice, law and order are enforced without fear or favour 8. A better Kenya is where the have¹s and the have not¹s are treated equally as human beings, and their rights are upheld by all Kenyans 9. A better Kenya is where leaders are accountable for their actions and where the Wananchi hold them accountable for lack of accountability with the inclusion of all Wananchi being both responsible and accountable 10. A better Kenya is where forgiveness for our past colonial sin¹s are forgiven through a fair process that recognizes all the impediments and creates capacity for corrective actions. 11. A better Kenya is where the have¹s will stand up and be counted for change and improvement of all lives for a better social economic benefit
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