Re: [kictanet] Cryptocurrency Trading
Dorcas We at KICTANet can only provide direction, intellectual engagement and lobby to have a policy in place (not necessarily regulation) for this to be adopted by the Government and mainstream industry players. I would however add that players in the Startup Scene in Kenya and some big ticket players like IBM are not waiting. They are already moving ahead with a number of initiatives. I understand that there now exists the Blockchain Association of Kenya. And this is as it should be. Check out the two links below to get a glimpse of whats happening. 1. https://developer.ibm.com/blockchain/sandbox/ 2. https://ipdb.io/foundation/ Incidentally KICTANet is a Founder Caretaker of the IPDB Foundation. Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
The arrest of the individuals is a good opportunity to move the conversation to the next level.
Engagement towards implementation of an actual policy in a multi-stakeholder approach.
Having the document on the website is good but action time is now. BTC is more adopted and provides a good example on the disruptions expected from Blockchain.
What is the actual roadmap Ali to achieving this? We need this to move forward.
Thanks!
On Nov 23, 2017 10:39 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
@Dorcas and others
This list is ahead in trying to formulate a way forward on this most current conversation. My take is this:-
Conversations around Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies cannot be held in isolation of the core Technology driving this revolution. This Technology is called Blockchain.
Please check out the policy brief that KICTANet did in collaboration with various stakeholders including MOICT, IBM, Tech entrepreneurs and other stakeholders.
<https://www.kictanet.or.ke/documents/KICTANet/Blockchain_Policy_Brief.Final.October.2017.pdf> KICTANet Blockchain Policy Brief <https://www.kictanet.or.ke/documents/KICTANet/Blockchain_Policy_Brief.Final.October.2017.pdf>
I agree Dorcas. The conversation must be expanded and a critical path mapped.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi listers,
Going by some events connected to arrest of some BTC traders, time is ripe for a new policy engagement exercise.
Over to you Alice Munyua!
It reminds me of the days when VoIP and Skype specifically was illegal.
We cannot refuse that the fourth industrial revolution is on and rolling. What happened to the initial discussions on this?
Muthoni
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Thanks Ali, I have been with kictanet since it's birth so I definitely understand. I definitely appreciate the effort you have put. But we have not even scratched the surface on this one. What is needed now is movement in terms of support for Blockchain and not hypervigilance as is being seen. While private sector players can be proactive, it will be a futile effort and a danger to investments if regulators and government come later with more restrictions in response. Hence the need for a repeat success story of kictanet as a multi-stakeholder forum. I think everyone is here in one way or the other. In essence, I am speaking of the need for a conducive policy environment and action needs to get to that. Thanks! Muthoni On Nov 23, 2017 11:03 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Dorcas
We at KICTANet can only provide direction, intellectual engagement and lobby to have a policy in place (not necessarily regulation) for this to be adopted by the Government and mainstream industry players. I would however add that players in the Startup Scene in Kenya and some big ticket players like IBM are not waiting.
They are already moving ahead with a number of initiatives. I understand that there now exists the Blockchain Association of Kenya.
And this is as it should be.
Check out the two links below to get a glimpse of whats happening.
1. https://developer.ibm.com/blockchain/sandbox/
2. https://ipdb.io/foundation/
Incidentally KICTANet is a Founder Caretaker of the IPDB Foundation.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
The arrest of the individuals is a good opportunity to move the conversation to the next level.
Engagement towards implementation of an actual policy in a multi-stakeholder approach.
Having the document on the website is good but action time is now. BTC is more adopted and provides a good example on the disruptions expected from Blockchain.
What is the actual roadmap Ali to achieving this? We need this to move forward.
Thanks!
On Nov 23, 2017 10:39 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
@Dorcas and others
This list is ahead in trying to formulate a way forward on this most current conversation. My take is this:-
Conversations around Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies cannot be held in isolation of the core Technology driving this revolution. This Technology is called Blockchain.
Please check out the policy brief that KICTANet did in collaboration with various stakeholders including MOICT, IBM, Tech entrepreneurs and other stakeholders.
<https://www.kictanet.or.ke/documents/KICTANet/Blockchain_Policy_Brief.Final.October.2017.pdf> KICTANet Blockchain Policy Brief <https://www.kictanet.or.ke/documents/KICTANet/Blockchain_Policy_Brief.Final.October.2017.pdf>
I agree Dorcas. The conversation must be expanded and a critical path mapped.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi listers,
Going by some events connected to arrest of some BTC traders, time is ripe for a new policy engagement exercise.
Over to you Alice Munyua!
It reminds me of the days when VoIP and Skype specifically was illegal.
We cannot refuse that the fourth industrial revolution is on and rolling. What happened to the initial discussions on this?
Muthoni
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Hi Dorcas , hi Ali, I think you are on the same page. I recall the last townhall meeting at Dusit which validated the blockchain policy brief was attended by a number of Stakeholders from all stakeholder groupings. That the CS Joe Mucheru alongside a number of officers from his ministry attended is testament to the interest and appreciation of the Government as a stakeholder in the technology. The list of participants in the meeting was multi stakeholder. Some Stakeholders such as the CBK Governor have been uneasy about Blockchain but seem to be warming up over time. In my humble opinion it would be good to build on the steps that have been made as we chart the way forwad. In 2016 blockchain was a key topic in the Kenya Internet Governance Forum attended by more than 250 stakeholders physically and many more remotely. A number of local block chain companies and experts participated in panels that interrogated the technology. It might be that what we are witnessing is the ripple effect of the awareness efforts created in the last three years. In the usual Kenyan spirit there are those that have decided to capitalize on the emerging technology. We are at a good place in that we can no longer bury our heads in the sand. Concrete actions or responses are needed from various stakeholders such as the government and independent regulatory agencies. They can tap into the feedback received from various Conferences hosted locally from 2016 as well as papers and policy briefs that have been written since then in consultation with the stakeholders. We don't need to reinvent the wheel since the bus is moving. Best Regards On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thanks Ali,
I have been with kictanet since it's birth so I definitely understand. I definitely appreciate the effort you have put. But we have not even scratched the surface on this one.
What is needed now is movement in terms of support for Blockchain and not hypervigilance as is being seen.
While private sector players can be proactive, it will be a futile effort and a danger to investments if regulators and government come later with more restrictions in response. Hence the need for a repeat success story of kictanet as a multi-stakeholder forum.
I think everyone is here in one way or the other. In essence, I am speaking of the need for a conducive policy environment and action needs to get to that.
Thanks! Muthoni
On Nov 23, 2017 11:03 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Dorcas
We at KICTANet can only provide direction, intellectual engagement and lobby to have a policy in place (not necessarily regulation) for this to be adopted by the Government and mainstream industry players. I would however add that players in the Startup Scene in Kenya and some big ticket players like IBM are not waiting.
They are already moving ahead with a number of initiatives. I understand that there now exists the Blockchain Association of Kenya.
And this is as it should be.
Check out the two links below to get a glimpse of whats happening.
1. https://developer.ibm.com/blockchain/sandbox/
2. https://ipdb.io/foundation/
Incidentally KICTANet is a Founder Caretaker of the IPDB Foundation.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
The arrest of the individuals is a good opportunity to move the conversation to the next level.
Engagement towards implementation of an actual policy in a multi-stakeholder approach.
Having the document on the website is good but action time is now. BTC is more adopted and provides a good example on the disruptions expected from Blockchain.
What is the actual roadmap Ali to achieving this? We need this to move forward.
Thanks!
On Nov 23, 2017 10:39 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
@Dorcas and others
This list is ahead in trying to formulate a way forward on this most current conversation. My take is this:-
Conversations around Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies cannot be held in isolation of the core Technology driving this revolution. This Technology is called Blockchain.
Please check out the policy brief that KICTANet did in collaboration with various stakeholders including MOICT, IBM, Tech entrepreneurs and other stakeholders.
<https://www.kictanet.or.ke/documents/KICTANet/Blockchain_Policy_Brief.Final.October.2017.pdf> KICTANet Blockchain Policy Brief <https://www.kictanet.or.ke/documents/KICTANet/Blockchain_Policy_Brief.Final.October.2017.pdf>
I agree Dorcas. The conversation must be expanded and a critical path mapped.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi listers,
Going by some events connected to arrest of some BTC traders, time is ripe for a new policy engagement exercise.
Over to you Alice Munyua!
It reminds me of the days when VoIP and Skype specifically was illegal.
We cannot refuse that the fourth industrial revolution is on and rolling. What happened to the initial discussions on this?
Muthoni
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Noted with thanks Barrack, Definitely something that needs to mature sooner rather than later. On Nov 23, 2017 11:39 AM, "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dorcas , hi Ali,
I think you are on the same page. I recall the last townhall meeting at Dusit which validated the blockchain policy brief was attended by a number of Stakeholders from all stakeholder groupings. That the CS Joe Mucheru alongside a number of officers from his ministry attended is testament to the interest and appreciation of the Government as a stakeholder in the technology. The list of participants in the meeting was multi stakeholder. Some Stakeholders such as the CBK Governor have been uneasy about Blockchain but seem to be warming up over time. In my humble opinion it would be good to build on the steps that have been made as we chart the way forwad. In 2016 blockchain was a key topic in the Kenya Internet Governance Forum attended by more than 250 stakeholders physically and many more remotely. A number of local block chain companies and experts participated in panels that interrogated the technology. It might be that what we are witnessing is the ripple effect of the awareness efforts created in the last three years. In the usual Kenyan spirit there are those that have decided to capitalize on the emerging technology. We are at a good place in that we can no longer bury our heads in the sand. Concrete actions or responses are needed from various stakeholders such as the government and independent regulatory agencies. They can tap into the feedback received from various Conferences hosted locally from 2016 as well as papers and policy briefs that have been written since then in consultation with the stakeholders. We don't need to reinvent the wheel since the bus is moving.
Best Regards
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thanks Ali,
I have been with kictanet since it's birth so I definitely understand. I definitely appreciate the effort you have put. But we have not even scratched the surface on this one.
What is needed now is movement in terms of support for Blockchain and not hypervigilance as is being seen.
While private sector players can be proactive, it will be a futile effort and a danger to investments if regulators and government come later with more restrictions in response. Hence the need for a repeat success story of kictanet as a multi-stakeholder forum.
I think everyone is here in one way or the other. In essence, I am speaking of the need for a conducive policy environment and action needs to get to that.
Thanks! Muthoni
On Nov 23, 2017 11:03 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Dorcas
We at KICTANet can only provide direction, intellectual engagement and lobby to have a policy in place (not necessarily regulation) for this to be adopted by the Government and mainstream industry players. I would however add that players in the Startup Scene in Kenya and some big ticket players like IBM are not waiting.
They are already moving ahead with a number of initiatives. I understand that there now exists the Blockchain Association of Kenya.
And this is as it should be.
Check out the two links below to get a glimpse of whats happening.
1. https://developer.ibm.com/blockchain/sandbox/
2. https://ipdb.io/foundation/
Incidentally KICTANet is a Founder Caretaker of the IPDB Foundation.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
The arrest of the individuals is a good opportunity to move the conversation to the next level.
Engagement towards implementation of an actual policy in a multi-stakeholder approach.
Having the document on the website is good but action time is now. BTC is more adopted and provides a good example on the disruptions expected from Blockchain.
What is the actual roadmap Ali to achieving this? We need this to move forward.
Thanks!
On Nov 23, 2017 10:39 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
@Dorcas and others
This list is ahead in trying to formulate a way forward on this most current conversation. My take is this:-
Conversations around Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies cannot be held in isolation of the core Technology driving this revolution. This Technology is called Blockchain.
Please check out the policy brief that KICTANet did in collaboration with various stakeholders including MOICT, IBM, Tech entrepreneurs and other stakeholders.
<https://www.kictanet.or.ke/documents/KICTANet/Blockchain_Policy_Brief.Final.October.2017.pdf> KICTANet Blockchain Policy Brief <https://www.kictanet.or.ke/documents/KICTANet/Blockchain_Policy_Brief.Final.October.2017.pdf>
I agree Dorcas. The conversation must be expanded and a critical path mapped.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi listers,
Going by some events connected to arrest of some BTC traders, time is ripe for a new policy engagement exercise.
Over to you Alice Munyua!
It reminds me of the days when VoIP and Skype specifically was illegal.
We cannot refuse that the fourth industrial revolution is on and rolling. What happened to the initial discussions on this?
Muthoni
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