Re: [kictanet] Technical Considerations for Internet Service Blocking and Filtering
Grace,
Quite a salient subject indeed, that the ietf makes an attempt to shed/spotlight
Happy Thursday! I would like to reference to Sam Wambugu's, Sunday 06/03/016 Sunday Nation article titled "Cloud Computing Buss Made Easy" which I'd rename " Raining in Cloud Computing". The writer uses what I would call human terminology or human-nature experiences in reference to tech situations such as " being asked whether data gets wet during RAINY SEASONS or may be damaged by LIGHTENING and THUNDER", "...storing ...on your phone MEMORY...", "...SITTING on your desktop...", "...you cannot tell where your photos or emails are SITTING but you access them when you log on to your email account or FACEbook...", "...a computer SITTING in California, Dublin..; you don't know - and most likely don't care..." The same paper insinuates that the rule of the jungle doesn't apply as it quotes ICT Cabinet Secretary on the progress to the new Communications Authority (CA) Board " So long as we follow the law, we believe that we are fine, so we should have a new board in two months." Thus what applies in Human life would expect to be seen in the Tech world including Internet space. All this humanness in the Tech world means that the Human Way applies and not vice-versa; "It is not for TECH to create HUMANS as TECH is created by HUMANS". Blessed day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 10/3/16, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technical Considerations for Internet Service Blocking and Filtering To: wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk Cc: "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, 10 March, 2016, 8:56 Well captured Harry, It is a tough call when faced with situations where acts of terrorism in which the same technology is a key facilitator are rampant. We are faced with a tougher situation in our part of the world where Citizen's with limited opportunities in advancing their education are bombarded with too much information (grape vine,politics) which they cannot synthesize properly resulting in polarization as a result of deeply divided opinions. This results in scenario's where they are risks unto themselves (thinking like Kaparo ;-)). That is why Universal Access is still key in this part of the world since it will create an empowered Citizen, Access to Education, Access to the Internet, Access to Telecommunication, access to ICT's name it. My 2 cents On 3/10/16, Harry Delano via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: perspective on..
and filtering would broadly fall under jurisdictional oversight & control and informational security
Drawing from experience, I suppose the foremost key objectives for blocking policing. For this very reason, the subject will
at best, forever remain contentious and controversial, depending on whose
perspective you seek on the matter. In other words, for a very long time to
come, it'll almost be impossible to achieve a universal, unanimous consensus on a firewall that serves "everyone' "anywhere" in this globalized networked digital village that cuts across diverse geopolitical,
religious,cultural,governance and even family or personal jurisdictions.
One
would delve on and on in finer detail on the subject - and the scope is
hugely wide, just as the ietf has disclaimed. However, my best take-away from such a rich discourse is, "Moderated Balance". Ideally, the basic minimum threshold should be; how to strive to achieve the most appropriate
concurrence where jurisdictional policing(which is necessary), either at
country/government level, corporate, or even at home - assuming you set up
a family firewall meets/embraces the inherent guaranteed/enshrined universal freedoms of access to information..
But again, who should police/enforce the attainment of this moderation and balance on jurisdictional authorities..? Using which methodologies..? Who knows..
As ietf aptly puts it in their preamble .... *"Whether particular forms of filtering are lawful in particular jurisdictions raises complicate legal
questions that are outside the scope of this document. For similar reasons,
questions about the ethics of particular forms of filtering are also out of scope"*
Plenty of regards,
Harry
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
A very informative RFC especially in our context. It addresses use of various technologies for blocking and filtering communications over the
Internet. Among other things considered are user consent when employing
blocking/filtering, who sets blocking policy? who enforces blocking policy? Some
consequences.
Some takeaways are that we are going to see more blocking/filtering but
it would help if there was more
blocking, a collaborative approach is required.
"where filtering is occurring to address content that is generally agreed to be inappropriate or illegal, strong cooperation among service
and governments may
and the perpetrators through non-filtering mechanisms, such as
with the finance industry to identify and limit illegal
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet < purposes of blocking, efficacy of the methods as well as transparency. And as regards content providers provide additional means to identify both the victims partnerships transactions."
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7754
Regards,
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Harry, I thought we would see "moderated balance" for a while longer but it seems that even what are considered human rights states are increasingly expanding their jurisdiction. Of course with good reason, such as security and prevention of terrorism, among others. It can only get more interesting. Tarehe 10 Mac 2016 12:01, "WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> aliandika:
Happy Thursday!
I would like to reference to Sam Wambugu's, Sunday 06/03/016 Sunday Nation article titled "Cloud Computing Buss Made Easy" which I'd rename " Raining in Cloud Computing".
The writer uses what I would call human terminology or human-nature experiences in reference to tech situations such as " being asked whether data gets wet during RAINY SEASONS or may be damaged by LIGHTENING and THUNDER", "...storing ...on your phone MEMORY...", "...SITTING on your desktop...", "...you cannot tell where your photos or emails are SITTING but you access them when you log on to your email account or FACEbook...", "...a computer SITTING in California, Dublin..; you don't know - and most likely don't care..."
The same paper insinuates that the rule of the jungle doesn't apply as it quotes ICT Cabinet Secretary on the progress to the new Communications Authority (CA) Board " So long as we follow the law, we believe that we are fine, so we should have a new board in two months."
Thus what applies in Human life would expect to be seen in the Tech world including Internet space.
All this humanness in the Tech world means that the Human Way applies and not vice-versa; "It is not for TECH to create HUMANS as TECH is created by HUMANS".
Blessed day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
-------------------------------------------- On Thu, 10/3/16, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technical Considerations for Internet Service Blocking and Filtering To: wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk Cc: "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, 10 March, 2016, 8:56
Well captured Harry,
It is a tough call when faced with situations where acts of terrorism in which the same technology is a key facilitator are rampant. We are faced with a tougher situation in our part of the world where Citizen's with limited opportunities in advancing their education are bombarded with too much information (grape vine,politics) which they cannot synthesize properly resulting in polarization as a result of deeply divided opinions. This results in scenario's where they are risks unto themselves (thinking like Kaparo ;-)). That is why Universal Access is still key in this part of the world since it will create an empowered Citizen, Access to Education, Access to the Internet, Access to Telecommunication, access to ICT's name it.
My 2 cents
Grace,
Quite a salient subject indeed, that the ietf makes an attempt to shed/spotlight
On 3/10/16, Harry Delano via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: perspective on..
and filtering would broadly fall under jurisdictional oversight & control and informational security
Drawing from experience, I suppose the foremost key objectives for blocking policing. For this very reason, the subject will
at best, forever remain contentious and controversial, depending on whose
perspective you seek on the matter. In other words, for a very long time to
come, it'll almost be impossible to achieve a universal, unanimous consensus on a firewall that serves "everyone' "anywhere" in this globalized networked digital village that cuts across diverse geopolitical,
religious,cultural,governance and even family or personal jurisdictions.
One
would delve on and on in finer detail on the subject - and the scope is
hugely wide, just as the ietf has disclaimed. However, my best take-away from such a rich discourse is, "Moderated Balance". Ideally, the basic minimum threshold should be; how to strive to achieve the most appropriate
concurrence where jurisdictional policing(which is necessary), either at
country/government level, corporate, or even at home - assuming you set up
a family firewall meets/embraces the inherent guaranteed/enshrined universal freedoms of access to information..
But again, who should police/enforce the attainment of this moderation and balance on jurisdictional authorities..? Using which methodologies..? Who knows..
As ietf aptly puts it in their preamble .... *"Whether particular forms of filtering are lawful in particular jurisdictions raises complicate legal
questions that are outside the scope of this document. For similar reasons,
questions about the ethics of particular forms of filtering are also out of scope"*
Plenty of regards,
Harry
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
A very informative RFC especially in our context. It addresses use of various technologies for blocking and filtering communications over the
Internet. Among other things considered are user consent when employing
blocking/filtering, who sets blocking policy? who enforces blocking policy? Some
consequences.
Some takeaways are that we are going to see more blocking/filtering but
it would help if there was more
blocking, a collaborative approach is required.
"where filtering is occurring to address content that is generally agreed to be inappropriate or illegal, strong cooperation among service
and governments may
and the perpetrators through non-filtering mechanisms, such as
with the finance industry to identify and limit illegal
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet < purposes of blocking, efficacy of the methods as well as transparency. And as regards content providers provide additional means to identify both the victims partnerships transactions."
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7754
Regards,
-- Grace L.N. Mutung'u Nairobi Kenya
Skype: gracebomu
Twitter: @Bomu
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sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
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online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
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Hey Grace, Just to echo your point, I would not hesitate to add that the scenario calls for a healthy open debate (believe me, a little diplomacy/user education plays an important role - whether in a corporate jurisdiction or even at the national stage). A stealth background technical deployment of filtering technologies which also can obtain and store user access data in some environments could in fact prove counterproductive as well as passing off as heavy-handed, an intrusive blatant breach of privacy and plainly unethical. Users would frown heavily upon such practices in a corporate setting. Moreover, such multi vector blended attacks such as email phishing and social engineering that are evolving rapidly and are designed to bypass perimeter-wide network security deployments. User education in this case is quite effective to deal with such attacks. However, on a much more larger scale such as on the national stage -for instance when you think of the "Great firewall", the stakes dramatically increase. Justification and relevant laws backing for more advanced intrusive monitoring and control that result from such deep packet filtering activities will be mooted from time to time by state actors to counter activities such as cyber terrorism, laundering and other ills. The objective to be met at this level would broadly be from a national security standpoint. The citizenry might however be or not be directly engaged as stakeholders in the formulation and deployment of such "national firewalls", but they ultimately are in operational deployment the world over to "eavesdrop" in on ongoing communications. While the objective could be noble, the monumental task of sifting through mountains of data they generate on real time basis requires highly skilled data analysts to decipher and provide timely analytical reports. Meanwhile, "moderated balance" here would have to address the critical need for national security on the one hand vis-à-vis user privacy concerns on the other. Citizen cyber vigilance and advocacy can be rightly called for, to keep in check any "state-abuse" of such a mandate such as aptly demonstrated in the ongoing UK debate on critical cyber investigatory powers required by the cyber espionage agency there(As noted by Barack in another post here). Interestingly enough, the request for enactment of relevant laws to back such powers appears to be a belated “after-the-fact”, as the agency has been spying anyway… Consequently, different methodologies will apply differently in diverse jurisdiction environments. However, it helps a great deal in consensus-building where a noble objective such as for example, the blocking of social media or streaming media that are bandwidth hungry in a corporate work environment because this directly impacts on user productive output. This approach, for the most part actually works with minimal user resistance since arbitrary enforcement could quickly breed disaffection and resentment among the workforce and result in such truant activities that among others could include circumvention of Firewall deep packet inspection filtering policies via proxy tunneling etcetera. As a last resort, some would in fact bring their own devices (Byods) to browse facebook that's blocked on the corporate network. Obviously, a number of the technologies deployed at the deep packet filtering level protect corporate networks from targeted attack vectors such as network intrusion and malware But as you said, this is one rapidly evolving space, and it can only get more interesting. One thing to note however, technology on its own, has never, and will never be a panacea to solving all our problems or remedying social ills. Nonetheless, when applied innovatively, transparently and all inclusively, it is one significant driver.. Harry On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 7:35 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Harry, I thought we would see "moderated balance" for a while longer but it seems that even what are considered human rights states are increasingly expanding their jurisdiction. Of course with good reason, such as security and prevention of terrorism, among others. It can only get more interesting. Tarehe 10 Mac 2016 12:01, "WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> aliandika:
Happy Thursday!
I would like to reference to Sam Wambugu's, Sunday 06/03/016 Sunday Nation article titled "Cloud Computing Buss Made Easy" which I'd rename " Raining in Cloud Computing".
The writer uses what I would call human terminology or human-nature experiences in reference to tech situations such as " being asked whether data gets wet during RAINY SEASONS or may be damaged by LIGHTENING and THUNDER", "...storing ...on your phone MEMORY...", "...SITTING on your desktop...", "...you cannot tell where your photos or emails are SITTING but you access them when you log on to your email account or FACEbook...", "...a computer SITTING in California, Dublin..; you don't know - and most likely don't care..."
The same paper insinuates that the rule of the jungle doesn't apply as it quotes ICT Cabinet Secretary on the progress to the new Communications Authority (CA) Board " So long as we follow the law, we believe that we are fine, so we should have a new board in two months."
Thus what applies in Human life would expect to be seen in the Tech world including Internet space.
All this humanness in the Tech world means that the Human Way applies and not vice-versa; "It is not for TECH to create HUMANS as TECH is created by HUMANS".
Blessed day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
-------------------------------------------- On Thu, 10/3/16, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technical Considerations for Internet Service Blocking and Filtering To: wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk Cc: "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, 10 March, 2016, 8:56
Well captured Harry,
It is a tough call when faced with situations where acts of terrorism in which the same technology is a key facilitator are rampant. We are faced with a tougher situation in our part of the world where Citizen's with limited opportunities in advancing their education are bombarded with too much information (grape vine,politics) which they cannot synthesize properly resulting in polarization as a result of deeply divided opinions. This results in scenario's where they are risks unto themselves (thinking like Kaparo ;-)). That is why Universal Access is still key in this part of the world since it will create an empowered Citizen, Access to Education, Access to the Internet, Access to Telecommunication, access to ICT's name it.
My 2 cents
Grace,
Quite a salient subject indeed, that the ietf makes an attempt to shed/spotlight
On 3/10/16, Harry Delano via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: perspective on..
and filtering would broadly fall under jurisdictional oversight & control and informational security
Drawing from experience, I suppose the foremost key objectives for blocking policing. For this very reason, the subject will
at best, forever remain contentious and controversial, depending on whose
perspective you seek on the matter. In other words, for a very long time to
come, it'll almost be impossible to achieve a universal, unanimous consensus on a firewall that serves "everyone' "anywhere" in this globalized networked digital village that cuts across diverse geopolitical,
religious,cultural,governance and even family or personal jurisdictions.
One
would delve on and on in finer detail on the subject - and the scope is
hugely wide, just as the ietf has disclaimed. However, my best take-away from such a rich discourse is, "Moderated Balance". Ideally, the basic minimum threshold should be; how to strive to achieve the most appropriate
concurrence where jurisdictional policing(which is necessary), either at
country/government level, corporate, or even at home - assuming you set up
a family firewall meets/embraces the inherent guaranteed/enshrined universal freedoms of access to information..
But again, who should police/enforce the attainment of this moderation and balance on jurisdictional authorities..? Using which methodologies..? Who knows..
As ietf aptly puts it in their preamble .... *"Whether particular forms of filtering are lawful in particular jurisdictions raises complicate legal
questions that are outside the scope of this document. For similar reasons,
questions about the ethics of particular forms of filtering are also out of scope"*
Plenty of regards,
Harry
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
A very informative RFC especially in our context. It addresses use of various technologies for blocking and filtering communications over the
Internet. Among other things considered are user consent when employing
blocking/filtering, who sets blocking policy? who enforces blocking policy? Some
consequences.
Some takeaways are that we are going to see more blocking/filtering but
it would help if there was more
blocking, a collaborative approach is required.
"where filtering is occurring to address content that is generally agreed to be inappropriate or illegal, strong cooperation among service
and governments may
and the perpetrators through non-filtering mechanisms, such as
with the finance industry to identify and limit illegal
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet < purposes of blocking, efficacy of the methods as well as transparency. And as regards content providers provide additional means to identify both the victims partnerships transactions."
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7754
Regards,
-- Grace L.N. Mutung'u Nairobi Kenya
Skype: gracebomu
Twitter: @Bomu
<http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu>
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