Re: [kictanet] Security Situation in Kenya
On this subject, it is curious that Safaricom's partner in the project is Chinese Telcom giant Huawei. Americans have reservations, apprehensive/suspicious Huwawei technology wrt spying. Here is an excerpt "U.S. House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers somewhat famously said last year that Huawei's products "cannot be trusted to be free of foreign state influence and thus pose a security threat to the United States and to our systems." The committee also released a report that accused Huawei of all kinds of bad behavior including bribery, corruption, and immigration violations. Huawei, of course, denied the claims." Full article Here. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! Call: +1-888-587-1150 (Canada) +254-20-267-0743 (Kenya) or info@aganoconsulting.com Licensed by Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.
While this might be true, you also can’t trust American manufacturing either, they’re just as bad with backdoors put in by the NSA or some other US gov’t sponsored spying and surveillance program. -- Erik Hersman On June 19, 2014 at 10:23:38 AM, Matunda Nyanchama via kictanet (kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke) wrote: On this subject, it is curious that Safaricom's partner in the project is Chinese Telcom giant Huawei. Americans have reservations, apprehensive/suspicious Huwawei technology wrt spying. Here is an excerpt "U.S. House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers somewhat famously said last year that Huawei's products "cannot be trusted to be free of foreign state influence and thus pose a security threat to the United States and to our systems." The committee also released a report that accused Huawei of all kinds of bad behavior including bribery, corruption, and immigration violations. Huawei, of course, denied the claims." Full article Here. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! Call: +1-888-587-1150 (Canada) +254-20-267-0743 (Kenya) or info@aganoconsulting.com Licensed by Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erik%40zungu.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
I hear you Erik. We can't win either way, poor 3rd world country! ________________________________ From: Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com> To: Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com>; Matunda Nyanchama via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Security Situation in Kenya While this might be true, you also can’t trust American manufacturing either, they’re just as bad with backdoors put in by the NSA or some other US gov’t sponsored spying and surveillance program. -- Erik Hersman On June 19, 2014 at 10:23:38 AM, Matunda Nyanchama via kictanet (kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke) wrote: On this subject, it is curious that Safaricom's partner in the project is Chinese Telcom giant Huawei. Americans have reservations, apprehensive/suspicious Huwawei technology wrt spying. Here is an excerpt "U.S. House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers somewhat famously said last year that Huawei's products "cannot be trusted to be free of foreign state influence and thus pose a security threat to the United States and to our systems." The committee also released a report that accused Huawei of all kinds of bad behavior including bribery, corruption, and immigration violations. Huawei, of course, denied the claims." Full article Here. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! Call: +1-888-587-1150 (Canada) +254-20-267-0743 (Kenya) or info@aganoconsulting.com Licensed by Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erik%40zungu.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
So we now distrust the Chinese based on the information offered by the Americans who are running a worldwide spying program tapping just about everyone? Lets not even get started on the back-doors installed in equipment built by the Americans. On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Matunda Nyanchama via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On this subject, it is curious that Safaricom's partner in the project is Chinese Telcom giant Huawei.
Americans have reservations, apprehensive/suspicious Huwawei technology wrt spying. Here is an excerpt
"U.S. House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers somewhat famously said <http://j.mp/ICrmay> last year that Huawei's products "cannot be trusted to be free of foreign state influence and thus pose a security threat to the United States and to our systems." The committee also released a report that accused Huawei of all kinds of bad behavior including bribery, corruption, and immigration violations. Huawei, of course, denied the claims <http://www.huawei.com/en/about-huawei/newsroom/press-release/hw-194454-hpsci.htm> ."
Full article Here. <http://gizmodo.com/accused-of-spying-huawei-ceo-says-company-is-exiting-1475628703>
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In Intelligence business, you trust no one! Every country does what is best for it's *own* interests. If putting backdoors in tech equipment is to the US / Chinese interests, they will do it and they have done it. The only you can avoid this, is either you manufacture your own equipment or on the very least assemble equipment from COTS for sensitive areas or you also get very adept at identifying & removing the backdoors. Rgds On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Mark Mwangi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
So we now distrust the Chinese based on the information offered by the Americans who are running a worldwide spying program tapping just about everyone? Lets not even get started on the back-doors installed in equipment built by the Americans.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Matunda Nyanchama via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On this subject, it is curious that Safaricom's partner in the project is Chinese Telcom giant Huawei.
Americans have reservations, apprehensive/suspicious Huwawei technology wrt spying. Here is an excerpt
"U.S. House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers somewhat famously said <http://j.mp/ICrmay> last year that Huawei's products "cannot be trusted to be free of foreign state influence and thus pose a security threat to the United States and to our systems." The committee also released a report that accused Huawei of all kinds of bad behavior including bribery, corruption, and immigration violations. Huawei, of course, denied the claims <http://www.huawei.com/en/about-huawei/newsroom/press-release/hw-194454-hpsci.htm> ."
Full article Here. <http://gizmodo.com/accused-of-spying-huawei-ceo-says-company-is-exiting-1475628703>
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US and UK C4ISR programs were the reason they were able to know of the attacks before hand and pull their people off Coast region. We know of the company Booz and Allen where Snowden used to work, and the hacks they did on Huawei equipments. On 6/19/14, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
In Intelligence business, you trust no one!
Every country does what is best for it's *own* interests. If putting backdoors in tech equipment is to the US / Chinese interests, they will do it and they have done it.
The only you can avoid this, is either you manufacture your own equipment or on the very least assemble equipment from COTS for sensitive areas or you also get very adept at identifying & removing the backdoors.
Rgds
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Mark Mwangi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
So we now distrust the Chinese based on the information offered by the Americans who are running a worldwide spying program tapping just about everyone? Lets not even get started on the back-doors installed in equipment built by the Americans.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Matunda Nyanchama via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On this subject, it is curious that Safaricom's partner in the project is Chinese Telcom giant Huawei.
Americans have reservations, apprehensive/suspicious Huwawei technology wrt spying. Here is an excerpt
"U.S. House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers somewhat famously said <http://j.mp/ICrmay> last year that Huawei's products "cannot be trusted to be free of foreign state influence and thus pose a security threat to the United States and to our systems." The committee also released a report that accused Huawei of all kinds of bad behavior including bribery, corruption, and immigration violations. Huawei, of course, denied the claims <http://www.huawei.com/en/about-huawei/newsroom/press-release/hw-194454-hpsci.htm> ."
Full article Here. <http://gizmodo.com/accused-of-spying-huawei-ceo-says-company-is-exiting-1475628703>
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Sitting ducks is what we are. The only solution to this is a homegrown industry able to ensure that National Interests are safeguarded. This starts from killing the culture in security tenders (and other sectors) where the catchphrase is:- 'You must have revenues of $100 million and above to qualify for this tender.' And other such clauses which are geared towards the size of the payoff to corrupt networks as opposed to the best solution.' Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
US and UK C4ISR programs were the reason they were able to know of the attacks before hand and pull their people off Coast region. We know of the company Booz and Allen where Snowden used to work, and the hacks they did on Huawei equipments.
On 6/19/14, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: In Intelligence business, you trust no one!
Every country does what is best for it's *own* interests. If putting backdoors in tech equipment is to the US / Chinese interests, they will do it and they have done it.
The only you can avoid this, is either you manufacture your own equipment or on the very least assemble equipment from COTS for sensitive areas or you also get very adept at identifying & removing the backdoors.
Rgds
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Mark Mwangi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
So we now distrust the Chinese based on the information offered by the Americans who are running a worldwide spying program tapping just about everyone? Lets not even get started on the back-doors installed in equipment built by the Americans.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Matunda Nyanchama via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On this subject, it is curious that Safaricom's partner in the project is Chinese Telcom giant Huawei.
Americans have reservations, apprehensive/suspicious Huwawei technology wrt spying. Here is an excerpt
"U.S. House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers somewhat famously said <http://j.mp/ICrmay> last year that Huawei's products "cannot be trusted to be free of foreign state influence and thus pose a security threat to the United States and to our systems." The committee also released a report that accused Huawei of all kinds of bad behavior including bribery, corruption, and immigration violations. Huawei, of course, denied the claims <http://www.huawei.com/en/about-huawei/newsroom/press-release/hw-194454-hpsci.htm> ."
Full article Here. <http://gizmodo.com/accused-of-spying-huawei-ceo-says-company-is-exiting-1475628703>
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Ali, Tell them... Listers, Decided to do a bit of back-of-napkin math on cost proposal for counter -terrorism as a little lunch exercise. If you were to hire the best 100 guys coming out of our Universities in Computer Science, Maths & Electronics at say Ksh 250k / month each (Ksh 4M / year) to join an elite hacking unit, comparable to NSA, you would do so at a budget of Ksh 400M / Year. Put in another Ksh 400M for Operations and Ksh 1B / Year would be enough to ran this Unit / Year. Go ahead and hire top consultants to teach our guys top-notch Network building, configurations and maintenance and hire the top Huwaei guys here on retainer. Lets say we give them Ksh 15M / Year each, being 10 guys, that works out to Ksh 150M / year to hire consultants who can build and maintain as we learn from them. Our guys would in short order build for you any network you could think of using COTS Equipment and there would *not* be any electronic communication targeting Kenyans that would be out of our reach and more importantly we would be able to roll out and maintain our own security network and perhaps sell our capabilities to Uganda, Ethiopia. So, Ksh 1.5B / Year you have a crack hacking and maintenance unit. How much for the communication equipment? Lets just say you are using the high -end Motorola MC75A, comes at about $2,000 a pop including encryption cards, meaning you can use the already existing mobile networks while giving GoK Personnel their own VPN Channels. If you were to buy one unit for every 2 cops (35,000) in the whole country, you are looking at about Ksh 4B. It still beats me why we would want to build a 4G LTE Security Network that will at most be used by 100,000 Personnel. CCTV, these ones should even be done by Youth Companies, but at Ksh 2,000 a pop, you could buy and install 100,000 of these at about Ksh 400M, put another 600M to bring it to Ksh 1B of 100,000 CCTV Cameras installed So at an initial investment of: Ksh 1.5B ->Crack Hacking Unit & Maintenance team Ksh 4B -> Communication Equipment ( 1 in every two cops) Ksh 1B -> 100,000 CCTV Equipment Ksh 2B -> Other Equipment (Servers, Computer Equipment, Software) There is not a pin that would drop around here that we wouldn't know about.
From here, we would need a high - response crack team to tackle security incidences across the country. Say 500 guys of our best commandos. Again each getting Ksh 4M / year to keep them highly motivated, that's Ksh 2.0B / Year. Fighting Gear, each guy with Ksh 1M of fighting gear, that's Ksh 500M CAPEX
Now, the expensive part is how to get them there. Say you need to drop 100 guys quickly, what do you need, Transport Helicopters, say you go for the Boeing CH-47 Chinook, that's 25M USD a pop, carrying 50 guys each*,* we get four of those, so thats 100M USD or Ksh 9B *. * Get a few attack Helicopters, at say USD 20M a pop, say we get 10, that's USD 200M thats approx Ksh 15B *.* Now we got a team that can hit anywhere in this country at most an 30mins - 1 hours notice *. * How much for crack anti-terrorism uni *t.*CAPEX: Ksh 30B Per Year Operational Costs (Salaries + Equipment Maintenance): Ksh 5B / year If you spread the CAPEX over 5 years, say as a loan, you are doing about Ksh 6B / year for 5 years, which to this country is almost a rounding off error seeing that Ministries are taking back hundreds of billions in unused funds every year. With this, a Turkana herder (now former ngoroko) will be passing a lone cow in Baragoi / Suguta Valley without so much as a second look at it, knowing fire raining from above is just 30 mins away. So, how does my proposal compare to say the Safaricom Ksh 15B proposal to put a security network in Nairobi & Mombasa? Jury is out there... On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Sitting ducks is what we are.
The only solution to this is a homegrown industry able to ensure that National Interests are safeguarded. This starts from killing the culture in security tenders (and other sectors) where the catchphrase is:-
'You must have revenues of $100 million and above to qualify for this tender.' And other such clauses which are geared towards the size of the payoff to corrupt networks as opposed to the best solution.'
*Ali Hussein*
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
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On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
US and UK C4ISR programs were the reason they were able to know of the attacks before hand and pull their people off Coast region. We know of the company Booz and Allen where Snowden used to work, and the hacks they did on Huawei equipments.
On 6/19/14, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
In Intelligence business, you trust no one!
Every country does what is best for it's *own* interests. If putting
backdoors in tech equipment is to the US / Chinese interests, they will do
it and they have done it.
The only you can avoid this, is either you manufacture your own equipment
or on the very least assemble equipment from COTS for sensitive areas or
you also get very adept at identifying & removing the backdoors.
Rgds
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Mark Mwangi via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
So we now distrust the Chinese based on the information offered by the
Americans who are running a worldwide spying program tapping just about
everyone? Lets not even get started on the back-doors installed in
equipment built by the Americans.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Matunda Nyanchama via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On this subject, it is curious that Safaricom's partner in the project
is Chinese Telcom giant Huawei.
Americans have reservations, apprehensive/suspicious Huwawei technology
wrt spying. Here is an excerpt
"U.S. House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers somewhat
famously said <http://j.mp/ICrmay> last year that Huawei's products
"cannot be trusted to be free of foreign state influence and thus pose a
security threat to the United States and to our systems." The committee
also released a report that accused Huawei of all kinds of bad behavior
including bribery, corruption, and immigration violations. Huawei, of
course, denied the claims
< http://www.huawei.com/en/about-huawei/newsroom/press-release/hw-194454-hpsci...
."
Full article Here.
< http://gizmodo.com/accused-of-spying-huawei-ceo-says-company-is-exiting-1475...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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<http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda>Skype: okiambe
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Had a look at this post this morning http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000125730/kimaiyo-holds-crisis-meeti... and IMO it vindicates my earlier position that the biggest issue to address in securing our country is lack of Logistics and a quick response team. The police are not known to have any serviceable helicopter, the last one being the one Prof Saitoti crashed in I think. So, maybe we ask Safaricom to buy & maintain helicopters instead? Might sound funny, but would have a much bigger impact. Rgds On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Ali,
Tell them...
Listers,
Decided to do a bit of back-of-napkin math on cost proposal for counter -terrorism as a little lunch exercise.
If you were to hire the best 100 guys coming out of our Universities in Computer Science, Maths & Electronics at say Ksh 250k / month each (Ksh 4M / year) to join an elite hacking unit, comparable to NSA, you would do so at a budget of Ksh 400M / Year. Put in another Ksh 400M for Operations and Ksh 1B / Year would be enough to ran this Unit / Year.
Go ahead and hire top consultants to teach our guys top-notch Network building, configurations and maintenance and hire the top Huwaei guys here on retainer. Lets say we give them Ksh 15M / Year each, being 10 guys, that works out to Ksh 150M / year to hire consultants who can build and maintain as we learn from them.
Our guys would in short order build for you any network you could think of using COTS Equipment and there would *not* be any electronic communication targeting Kenyans that would be out of our reach and more importantly we would be able to roll out and maintain our own security network and perhaps sell our capabilities to Uganda, Ethiopia.
So, Ksh 1.5B / Year you have a crack hacking and maintenance unit.
How much for the communication equipment? Lets just say you are using the high -end Motorola MC75A, comes at about $2,000 a pop including encryption cards, meaning you can use the already existing mobile networks while giving GoK Personnel their own VPN Channels. If you were to buy one unit for every 2 cops (35,000) in the whole country, you are looking at about Ksh 4B.
It still beats me why we would want to build a 4G LTE Security Network that will at most be used by 100,000 Personnel.
CCTV, these ones should even be done by Youth Companies, but at Ksh 2,000 a pop, you could buy and install 100,000 of these at about Ksh 400M, put another 600M to bring it to Ksh 1B of 100,000 CCTV Cameras installed
So at an initial investment of: Ksh 1.5B ->Crack Hacking Unit & Maintenance team Ksh 4B -> Communication Equipment ( 1 in every two cops) Ksh 1B -> 100,000 CCTV Equipment Ksh 2B -> Other Equipment (Servers, Computer Equipment, Software)
There is not a pin that would drop around here that we wouldn't know about.
From here, we would need a high - response crack team to tackle security incidences across the country. Say 500 guys of our best commandos. Again each getting Ksh 4M / year to keep them highly motivated, that's Ksh 2.0B / Year. Fighting Gear, each guy with Ksh 1M of fighting gear, that's Ksh 500M CAPEX
Now, the expensive part is how to get them there. Say you need to drop 100 guys quickly, what do you need, Transport Helicopters, say you go for the Boeing CH-47 Chinook, that's 25M USD a pop, carrying 50 guys each*,* we get four of those, so thats 100M USD or Ksh 9B
*. * Get a few attack Helicopters, at say USD 20M a pop, say we get 10, that's USD 200M thats approx Ksh 15B
*.* Now we got a team that can hit anywhere in this country at most an 30mins - 1 hours notice
*. * How much for crack anti-terrorism uni *t.*CAPEX: Ksh 30B Per Year Operational Costs (Salaries + Equipment Maintenance): Ksh 5B / year
If you spread the CAPEX over 5 years, say as a loan, you are doing about Ksh 6B / year for 5 years, which to this country is almost a rounding off error seeing that Ministries are taking back hundreds of billions in unused funds every year.
With this, a Turkana herder (now former ngoroko) will be passing a lone cow in Baragoi / Suguta Valley without so much as a second look at it, knowing fire raining from above is just 30 mins away.
So, how does my proposal compare to say the Safaricom Ksh 15B proposal to put a security network in Nairobi & Mombasa?
Jury is out there...
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Sitting ducks is what we are.
The only solution to this is a homegrown industry able to ensure that National Interests are safeguarded. This starts from killing the culture in security tenders (and other sectors) where the catchphrase is:-
'You must have revenues of $100 million and above to qualify for this tender.' And other such clauses which are geared towards the size of the payoff to corrupt networks as opposed to the best solution.'
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On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
US and UK C4ISR programs were the reason they were able to know of the attacks before hand and pull their people off Coast region. We know of the company Booz and Allen where Snowden used to work, and the hacks they did on Huawei equipments.
On 6/19/14, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
In Intelligence business, you trust no one!
Every country does what is best for it's *own* interests. If putting
backdoors in tech equipment is to the US / Chinese interests, they will do
it and they have done it.
The only you can avoid this, is either you manufacture your own equipment
or on the very least assemble equipment from COTS for sensitive areas or
you also get very adept at identifying & removing the backdoors.
Rgds
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Mark Mwangi via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
So we now distrust the Chinese based on the information offered by the
Americans who are running a worldwide spying program tapping just about
everyone? Lets not even get started on the back-doors installed in
equipment built by the Americans.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Matunda Nyanchama via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On this subject, it is curious that Safaricom's partner in the project
is Chinese Telcom giant Huawei.
Americans have reservations, apprehensive/suspicious Huwawei technology
wrt spying. Here is an excerpt
"U.S. House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers somewhat
famously said <http://j.mp/ICrmay> last year that Huawei's products
"cannot be trusted to be free of foreign state influence and thus pose a
security threat to the United States and to our systems." The committee
also released a report that accused Huawei of all kinds of bad behavior
including bribery, corruption, and immigration violations. Huawei, of
course, denied the claims
< http://www.huawei.com/en/about-huawei/newsroom/press-release/hw-194454-hpsci...
."
Full article Here.
< http://gizmodo.com/accused-of-spying-huawei-ceo-says-company-is-exiting-1475...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda;
<http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda>Skype: okiambe
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Huawei has been Safaricom's infrastrucutre partner since start up. Bear in mind that Safaricom is also part owned by Vodafone, who are represented on teh board and can voice any 'western concerns'. Me thinks teh rest is smoke and mirrors. Dont forget ZTE also chinese has been angling to get a piece of this pie. On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Had a look at this post this morning http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000125730/kimaiyo-holds-crisis-meeti... and IMO it vindicates my earlier position that the biggest issue to address in securing our country is lack of Logistics and a quick response team.
The police are not known to have any serviceable helicopter, the last one being the one Prof Saitoti crashed in I think.
So, maybe we ask Safaricom to buy & maintain helicopters instead? Might sound funny, but would have a much bigger impact.
Rgds
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Ali,
Tell them...
Listers,
Decided to do a bit of back-of-napkin math on cost proposal for counter -terrorism as a little lunch exercise.
If you were to hire the best 100 guys coming out of our Universities in Computer Science, Maths & Electronics at say Ksh 250k / month each (Ksh 4M / year) to join an elite hacking unit, comparable to NSA, you would do so at a budget of Ksh 400M / Year. Put in another Ksh 400M for Operations and Ksh 1B / Year would be enough to ran this Unit / Year.
Go ahead and hire top consultants to teach our guys top-notch Network building, configurations and maintenance and hire the top Huwaei guys here on retainer. Lets say we give them Ksh 15M / Year each, being 10 guys, that works out to Ksh 150M / year to hire consultants who can build and maintain as we learn from them.
Our guys would in short order build for you any network you could think of using COTS Equipment and there would *not* be any electronic communication targeting Kenyans that would be out of our reach and more importantly we would be able to roll out and maintain our own security network and perhaps sell our capabilities to Uganda, Ethiopia.
So, Ksh 1.5B / Year you have a crack hacking and maintenance unit.
How much for the communication equipment? Lets just say you are using the high -end Motorola MC75A, comes at about $2,000 a pop including encryption cards, meaning you can use the already existing mobile networks while giving GoK Personnel their own VPN Channels. If you were to buy one unit for every 2 cops (35,000) in the whole country, you are looking at about Ksh 4B.
It still beats me why we would want to build a 4G LTE Security Network that will at most be used by 100,000 Personnel.
CCTV, these ones should even be done by Youth Companies, but at Ksh 2,000 a pop, you could buy and install 100,000 of these at about Ksh 400M, put another 600M to bring it to Ksh 1B of 100,000 CCTV Cameras installed
So at an initial investment of: Ksh 1.5B ->Crack Hacking Unit & Maintenance team Ksh 4B -> Communication Equipment ( 1 in every two cops) Ksh 1B -> 100,000 CCTV Equipment Ksh 2B -> Other Equipment (Servers, Computer Equipment, Software)
There is not a pin that would drop around here that we wouldn't know about.
From here, we would need a high - response crack team to tackle security incidences across the country. Say 500 guys of our best commandos. Again each getting Ksh 4M / year to keep them highly motivated, that's Ksh 2.0B / Year. Fighting Gear, each guy with Ksh 1M of fighting gear, that's Ksh 500M CAPEX
Now, the expensive part is how to get them there. Say you need to drop 100 guys quickly, what do you need, Transport Helicopters, say you go for the Boeing CH-47 Chinook, that's 25M USD a pop, carrying 50 guys each*,* we get four of those, so thats 100M USD or Ksh 9B
*. * Get a few attack Helicopters, at say USD 20M a pop, say we get 10, that's USD 200M thats approx Ksh 15B
*.* Now we got a team that can hit anywhere in this country at most an 30mins - 1 hours notice
*. * How much for crack anti-terrorism uni *t.*CAPEX: Ksh 30B Per Year Operational Costs (Salaries + Equipment Maintenance): Ksh 5B / year
If you spread the CAPEX over 5 years, say as a loan, you are doing about Ksh 6B / year for 5 years, which to this country is almost a rounding off error seeing that Ministries are taking back hundreds of billions in unused funds every year.
With this, a Turkana herder (now former ngoroko) will be passing a lone cow in Baragoi / Suguta Valley without so much as a second look at it, knowing fire raining from above is just 30 mins away.
So, how does my proposal compare to say the Safaricom Ksh 15B proposal to put a security network in Nairobi & Mombasa?
Jury is out there...
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Sitting ducks is what we are.
The only solution to this is a homegrown industry able to ensure that National Interests are safeguarded. This starts from killing the culture in security tenders (and other sectors) where the catchphrase is:-
'You must have revenues of $100 million and above to qualify for this tender.' And other such clauses which are geared towards the size of the payoff to corrupt networks as opposed to the best solution.'
*Ali Hussein*
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
US and UK C4ISR programs were the reason they were able to know of the attacks before hand and pull their people off Coast region. We know of the company Booz and Allen where Snowden used to work, and the hacks they did on Huawei equipments.
On 6/19/14, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
In Intelligence business, you trust no one!
Every country does what is best for it's *own* interests. If putting
backdoors in tech equipment is to the US / Chinese interests, they will do
it and they have done it.
The only you can avoid this, is either you manufacture your own equipment
or on the very least assemble equipment from COTS for sensitive areas or
you also get very adept at identifying & removing the backdoors.
Rgds
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Mark Mwangi via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
So we now distrust the Chinese based on the information offered by the
Americans who are running a worldwide spying program tapping just about
everyone? Lets not even get started on the back-doors installed in
equipment built by the Americans.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Matunda Nyanchama via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On this subject, it is curious that Safaricom's partner in the project
is Chinese Telcom giant Huawei.
Americans have reservations, apprehensive/suspicious Huwawei technology
wrt spying. Here is an excerpt
"U.S. House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers somewhat
famously said <http://j.mp/ICrmay> last year that Huawei's products
"cannot be trusted to be free of foreign state influence and thus pose a
security threat to the United States and to our systems." The committee
also released a report that accused Huawei of all kinds of bad behavior
including bribery, corruption, and immigration violations. Huawei, of
course, denied the claims
< http://www.huawei.com/en/about-huawei/newsroom/press-release/hw-194454-hpsci...
."
Full article Here.
< http://gizmodo.com/accused-of-spying-huawei-ceo-says-company-is-exiting-1475...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama@aganoconsulting.com
Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda;
<http://twitter.com/#%21/nmatunda>Skype: okiambe
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you deserve!
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+1 on all your points gents and ladies. There is this petition I have, ummm, come across. Since mass action right now will likely get us into a worse situation, why don't we do something online... I have decided that I will not wait for this terror business to hit home before I do something. https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/national-security-advisory-committee-... *./Kamonye* On 19 June 2014 11:41, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
US and UK C4ISR programs were the reason they were able to know of the attacks before hand and pull their people off Coast region. We know of the company Booz and Allen where Snowden used to work, and the hacks they did on Huawei equipments.
On 6/19/14, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
In Intelligence business, you trust no one!
Every country does what is best for it's *own* interests. If putting backdoors in tech equipment is to the US / Chinese interests, they will do it and they have done it.
The only you can avoid this, is either you manufacture your own equipment or on the very least assemble equipment from COTS for sensitive areas or you also get very adept at identifying & removing the backdoors.
Rgds
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Mark Mwangi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
So we now distrust the Chinese based on the information offered by the Americans who are running a worldwide spying program tapping just about everyone? Lets not even get started on the back-doors installed in equipment built by the Americans.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Matunda Nyanchama via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On this subject, it is curious that Safaricom's partner in the project is Chinese Telcom giant Huawei.
Americans have reservations, apprehensive/suspicious Huwawei technology wrt spying. Here is an excerpt
"U.S. House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers somewhat famously said <http://j.mp/ICrmay> last year that Huawei's products "cannot be trusted to be free of foreign state influence and thus pose a security threat to the United States and to our systems." The committee also released a report that accused Huawei of all kinds of bad behavior including bribery, corruption, and immigration violations. Huawei, of course, denied the claims < http://www.huawei.com/en/about-huawei/newsroom/press-release/hw-194454-hpsci...
."
Full article Here. < http://gizmodo.com/accused-of-spying-huawei-ceo-says-company-is-exiting-1475...
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There is also a very interesting aspect of Procurement where if a Sub-Contractor provides a lot more value than the main contractor, then you might as well get the items from the sub-contractor directly. When I look at this deal, most of the work, including maintenance, will be done by Huawei, so what is Safaricom's value addition? Money? Huawei could also finance such a project at the drop of a hat. So has Safaricom become the latest Tenderprenuer? Rgds On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Matunda Nyanchama via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On this subject, it is curious that Safaricom's partner in the project is Chinese Telcom giant Huawei.
Americans have reservations, apprehensive/suspicious Huwawei technology wrt spying. Here is an excerpt
"U.S. House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers somewhat famously said <http://j.mp/ICrmay> last year that Huawei's products "cannot be trusted to be free of foreign state influence and thus pose a security threat to the United States and to our systems." The committee also released a report that accused Huawei of all kinds of bad behavior including bribery, corruption, and immigration violations. Huawei, of course, denied the claims <http://www.huawei.com/en/about-huawei/newsroom/press-release/hw-194454-hpsci.htm> ."
Full article Here. <http://gizmodo.com/accused-of-spying-huawei-ceo-says-company-is-exiting-1475628703>
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Peter Wakaba