Re: [kictanet] Music Copyright Owners sue ISPs for allowing Kenyans to download content illegally
Benard, Did you just used Mpesa as an example that there may be a way to block websites?:D There are several ways, the problem is do you want to turn us into China and have our own great firewall and violate our rights up and down the spectrum? How do we trust anyone not to use such a system to block free speech or even their competition? All the best, princelySid *Twitter:* @princelySid | *Website: *cdohnio.blogspot.com
Hehehe.... Mpesa was to say anything is possible. If u don't pirate music this petition won't affect you surely? N by that i mean anyone. If a law is passed that affects thieves and you are not one... Shouldn't you let the law be... On Jan 29, 2015 3:21 PM, "cdohnio via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Benard, Did you just used Mpesa as an example that there may be a way to block websites?:D
There are several ways, the problem is do you want to turn us into China and have our own great firewall and violate our rights up and down the spectrum? How do we trust anyone not to use such a system to block free speech or even their competition?
All the best, princelySid
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Not if the implementation of the law affects the privacy of all. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Bernard Kioko via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hehehe.... Mpesa was to say anything is possible. If u don't pirate music this petition won't affect you surely? N by that i mean anyone. If a law is passed that affects thieves and you are not one... Shouldn't you let the law be... On Jan 29, 2015 3:21 PM, "cdohnio via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Benard, Did you just used Mpesa as an example that there may be a way to block websites?:D
There are several ways, the problem is do you want to turn us into China and have our own great firewall and violate our rights up and down the spectrum? How do we trust anyone not to use such a system to block free speech or even their competition?
All the best, princelySid
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Lets get real even now what we are asking for is happening so your privacy wont be more or less if piracy websites are blocked. From: Brian Ngure [mailto:brian.ngure@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:28 PM To: Bernard Kioko; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Music Copyright Owners sue ISPs for allowing Kenyans to download content illegally Not if the implementation of the law affects the privacy of all. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Bernard Kioko via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Hehehe.... Mpesa was to say anything is possible. If u don't pirate music this petition won't affect you surely? N by that i mean anyone. If a law is passed that affects thieves and you are not one... Shouldn't you let the law be... On Jan 29, 2015 3:21 PM, "cdohnio via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Benard, Did you just used Mpesa as an example that there may be a way to block websites?:D There are several ways, the problem is do you want to turn us into China and have our own great firewall and violate our rights up and down the spectrum? How do we trust anyone not to use such a system to block free speech or even their competition? All the best, princelySid Twitter: @princelySid | Website: cdohnio.blogspot.com <http://cdohnio.blogspot.com/> _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bkioko%40bernsoft.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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How are music pirates being targeted by this petition? As a consumer of content what I see is a petition to censor the open nature of the Internet by blocking websites. On 29/01/2015 15:25, Bernard Kioko via kictanet wrote:
Hehehe.... Mpesa was to say anything is possible. If u don't pirate music this petition won't affect you surely? N by that i mean anyone. If a law is passed that affects thieves and you are not one... Shouldn't you let the law be... On Jan 29, 2015 3:21 PM, "cdohnio via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Benard, Did you just used Mpesa as an example that there may be a way to block websites?:D
There are several ways, the problem is do you want to turn us into China and have our own great firewall and violate our rights up and down the spectrum? How do we trust anyone not to use such a system to block free speech or even their competition?
Oh I pirate music, movies... All of it foreign though. Software, not really. If you asked me why I do it, well I'm not going to pay 1000bob for something I'll only use once. And if I wanted to pay that 1000bob I would have to find a distributor, one that wasn't pirating too and it's so easy to find those and physically hand over my money. I just don't have time for that All the best, princelySid *Twitter:* @princelySid | *Website: *cdohnio.blogspot.com On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
Hehehe.... Mpesa was to say anything is possible. If u don't pirate music this petition won't affect you surely? N by that i mean anyone. If a law is passed that affects thieves and you are not one... Shouldn't you let the law be... On Jan 29, 2015 3:21 PM, "cdohnio via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Benard, Did you just used Mpesa as an example that there may be a way to block websites?:D
There are several ways, the problem is do you want to turn us into China and have our own great firewall and violate our rights up and down the spectrum? How do we trust anyone not to use such a system to block free speech or even their competition?
All the best, princelySid
*Twitter:* @princelySid | *Website: *cdohnio.blogspot.com
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I guess I understand your resistance to this kind of a law and as a self confessed pirate I would happily want you blocked from accessing those sites. From: cdohnio [mailto:cdohnio@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:31 PM To: Bernard Kioko Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Music Copyright Owners sue ISPs for allowing Kenyans to download content illegally Oh I pirate music, movies... All of it foreign though. Software, not really. If you asked me why I do it, well I'm not going to pay 1000bob for something I'll only use once. And if I wanted to pay that 1000bob I would have to find a distributor, one that wasn't pirating too and it's so easy to find those and physically hand over my money. I just don't have time for that All the best, princelySid Twitter: @princelySid | Website: cdohnio.blogspot.com <http://cdohnio.blogspot.com/> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote: Hehehe.... Mpesa was to say anything is possible. If u don't pirate music this petition won't affect you surely? N by that i mean anyone. If a law is passed that affects thieves and you are not one... Shouldn't you let the law be... On Jan 29, 2015 3:21 PM, "cdohnio via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Benard, Did you just used Mpesa as an example that there may be a way to block websites?:D There are several ways, the problem is do you want to turn us into China and have our own great firewall and violate our rights up and down the spectrum? How do we trust anyone not to use such a system to block free speech or even their competition? All the best, princelySid Twitter: @princelySid | Website: cdohnio.blogspot.com <http://cdohnio.blogspot.com/> _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bkioko%40bernsoft.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _____ This e-mail and any attachments may contain information that is confidential, legally privileged and protected by law and is intended for the sole use of the named recipient(s). Any unauthorized review, use, or disclosure or distribution is prohibited. Any liability (in negligence or otherwise) arising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting on any information contained in this email is hereby excluded. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the contents and notify the sender immediately; do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. Whilst our e-mails are checked for viruses, we cannot guarantee that this message or any attachment is virus free, does not contain malicious code or is incompatible with your electronic system and the Company does not accept liability in respect of viruses, malicious code or any related problems that you might experience. For further information about us, please contact us at the address indicated below. Bernsoft Interactive Limited - P O Box 15177-00100 Nairobi - Tel: +254 722 929192 Email: admin@bernsoft.com Web: www.bernsoft.com -- * ------------------------------ * This e-mail and any attachments may contain information that is confidential, legally privileged and protected by law and is intended for the sole use of the named recipient(s). Any unauthorized review, use, or disclosure or distribution is prohibited. Any liability (in negligence or otherwise) arising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting on any information contained in this email is hereby excluded. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the contents and notify the sender immediately; do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. Whilst our e-mails are checked for viruses, we cannot guarantee that this message or any attachment is virus free, does not contain malicious code or is incompatible with your electronic system and the Company does not accept liability in respect of viruses, malicious code or any related problems that you might experience. For further information about us, please contact us at the address indicated below. Bernsoft Interactive Limited - P O Box 15177-00100 Nairobi - Tel: +254 722 929192 Email: admin@bernsoft.com Web: www.bernsoft.com
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