Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] EU hits Google with Anti-Trust complaint
Happy Furahi Day! Thank you for sharing the piece! "One big difference in U.S. antitrust law is that the ultimate barometer of whether something is illegal is whether it negatively affects the consumer—for example, by raising the price of a product or service. That would make it difficult to prosecute Google for antitrust behavior, since the vast majority of its products are free. The European Union, however, doesn’t need to make that argument—it’s free to find Google’s behavior illegal regardless of what it costs." ISOC KE during the next Internet Governance Forum, the Competition Authority would be a great guest to "demystify this Anti-Trust, Dominance terms and practical application. Today's local tech start-up may be less concerned, however, it is the next global tech giant soon. Blessed day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 22/4/16, Ali Hussein via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Subject: [isoc_ke] EU hits Google with Anti-Trust complaint To: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke, ISOC@lists.my.co.ke Date: Friday, 22 April, 2016, 3:31 Listers This should be interesting. EU hits Google EU officials say Google forces phone makers and carriers to install its services. For many Android users, one of the appealing things about Google’s mobile operating system is that it is an open ecosystem—anyone can install or modify it, since it is open source, and users can run any apps they want, something they can’t do on Apple’s iOS devices. But the European Union doesn’t see it that way. To the EU, Android is a just tool that Google uses to expand its mobile and search monopolies.Read on:- http://fortune.com/2016/04/21/eu-google-antitrust/Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
This is a tricky issue in many ways: 1. Android is an appealing product to put onto a Smart Phone platform. Its not only designed for a Smart Phone, its designed also for TV boxes, and other appliances. It is the only open platform that is out there that is easily accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many manufacturers would like it to work. 2. Google is not doing this for free. Its doing this because it wants to roll out its services to the manufacturer who may want to receive its "free" product to kick start their operations. 3. Rival platforms face some problems Android has solved: Either it being running on costly hardware (iPhone's iOS) or it being not lucrative as an option to drive hardware sales (Windows, Blackberry, etc). 4. Infact the platforms like iOS, Blackberry, Windows have the same issues: They either push iCloud (Apple), BlackBerry services or Bing (Microsoft) as bundled products. 5. Various open attempts have been developed but adoption has brought them down - a good example of FirefoxOS by Mozilla. FirefoxOS would have solved this exact same problem. Is it then that the corporates are not willing to invest in such platforms? Ahmed On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 4:50 AM, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Happy Furahi Day!
Thank you for sharing the piece!
"One big difference in U.S. antitrust law is that the ultimate barometer of whether something is illegal is whether it negatively affects the consumer—for example, by raising the price of a product or service. That would make it difficult to prosecute Google for antitrust behavior, since the vast majority of its products are free. The European Union, however, doesn’t need to make that argument—it’s free to find Google’s behavior illegal regardless of what it costs."
ISOC KE during the next Internet Governance Forum, the Competition Authority would be a great guest to "demystify this Anti-Trust, Dominance terms and practical application.
Today's local tech start-up may be less concerned, however, it is the next global tech giant soon.
Blessed day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
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Subject: [isoc_ke] EU hits Google with Anti-Trust complaint To: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke, ISOC@lists.my.co.ke Date: Friday, 22 April, 2016, 3:31
Listers This should be interesting. EU hits Google EU officials say Google forces phone makers and carriers to install its services. For many Android users, one of the appealing things about Google’s mobile operating system is that it is an open ecosystem—anyone can install or modify it, since it is open source, and users can run any apps they want, something they can’t do on Apple’s iOS devices. But the European Union doesn’t see it that way. To the EU, Android is a just tool that Google uses to expand its mobile and search monopolies.Read on:- http://fortune.com/2016/04/21/eu-google-antitrust/Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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Great points Ahmed. As I said this is definitely an interesting one to watch and one that has lessons for us in Kenya as we grapple with our own 'Dominance' issues. *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a tricky issue in many ways:
1. Android is an appealing product to put onto a Smart Phone platform. Its not only designed for a Smart Phone, its designed also for TV boxes, and other appliances. It is the only open platform that is out there that is easily accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many manufacturers would like it to work. 2. Google is not doing this for free. Its doing this because it wants to roll out its services to the manufacturer who may want to receive its "free" product to kick start their operations. 3. Rival platforms face some problems Android has solved: Either it being running on costly hardware (iPhone's iOS) or it being not lucrative as an option to drive hardware sales (Windows, Blackberry, etc). 4. Infact the platforms like iOS, Blackberry, Windows have the same issues: They either push iCloud (Apple), BlackBerry services or Bing (Microsoft) as bundled products. 5. Various open attempts have been developed but adoption has brought them down - a good example of FirefoxOS by Mozilla. FirefoxOS would have solved this exact same problem. Is it then that the corporates are not willing to invest in such platforms?
Ahmed
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 4:50 AM, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Happy Furahi Day!
Thank you for sharing the piece!
"One big difference in U.S. antitrust law is that the ultimate barometer of whether something is illegal is whether it negatively affects the consumer—for example, by raising the price of a product or service. That would make it difficult to prosecute Google for antitrust behavior, since the vast majority of its products are free. The European Union, however, doesn’t need to make that argument—it’s free to find Google’s behavior illegal regardless of what it costs."
ISOC KE during the next Internet Governance Forum, the Competition Authority would be a great guest to "demystify this Anti-Trust, Dominance terms and practical application.
Today's local tech start-up may be less concerned, however, it is the next global tech giant soon.
Blessed day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
-------------------------------------------- On Fri, 22/4/16, Ali Hussein via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Subject: [isoc_ke] EU hits Google with Anti-Trust complaint To: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke, ISOC@lists.my.co.ke Date: Friday, 22 April, 2016, 3:31
Listers This should be interesting. EU hits Google EU officials say Google forces phone makers and carriers to install its services. For many Android users, one of the appealing things about Google’s mobile operating system is that it is an open ecosystem—anyone can install or modify it, since it is open source, and users can run any apps they want, something they can’t do on Apple’s iOS devices. But the European Union doesn’t see it that way. To the EU, Android is a just tool that Google uses to expand its mobile and search monopolies.Read on:- http://fortune.com/2016/04/21/eu-google-antitrust/Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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"It is the only open platform that is out there that is easily accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many manufacturers would like it to work." Not quite true Ubuntu (Linux) has a version for phones - still 'beta', although two (Chinese) phone manufacturers are already shipping phones and tablets with Ubuntu installed. This is totally free and open source, with no ulterior motive behind it. I, for one, will buy my next phone with Ubuntu - and then have consistency across all platforms - desktop, laptop, tablet, phone, and IoT devices. Note that Android is also built on a Linux base - but with Google's proprietary 'bits' on top. On 22/04/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Great points Ahmed.
As I said this is definitely an interesting one to watch and one that has lessons for us in Kenya as we grapple with our own 'Dominance' issues.
*Ali Hussein*
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On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a tricky issue in many ways:
1. Android is an appealing product to put onto a Smart Phone platform. Its not only designed for a Smart Phone, its designed also for TV boxes, and other appliances. It is the only open platform that is out there that is easily accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many manufacturers would like it to work. 2. Google is not doing this for free. Its doing this because it wants to roll out its services to the manufacturer who may want to receive its "free" product to kick start their operations. 3. Rival platforms face some problems Android has solved: Either it being running on costly hardware (iPhone's iOS) or it being not lucrative as an option to drive hardware sales (Windows, Blackberry, etc). 4. Infact the platforms like iOS, Blackberry, Windows have the same issues: They either push iCloud (Apple), BlackBerry services or Bing (Microsoft) as bundled products. 5. Various open attempts have been developed but adoption has brought them down - a good example of FirefoxOS by Mozilla. FirefoxOS would have solved this exact same problem. Is it then that the corporates are not willing to invest in such platforms?
Ahmed
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 4:50 AM, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Happy Furahi Day!
Thank you for sharing the piece!
"One big difference in U.S. antitrust law is that the ultimate barometer of whether something is illegal is whether it negatively affects the consumer—for example, by raising the price of a product or service. That would make it difficult to prosecute Google for antitrust behavior, since the vast majority of its products are free. The European Union, however, doesn’t need to make that argument—it’s free to find Google’s behavior illegal regardless of what it costs."
ISOC KE during the next Internet Governance Forum, the Competition Authority would be a great guest to "demystify this Anti-Trust, Dominance terms and practical application.
Today's local tech start-up may be less concerned, however, it is the next global tech giant soon.
Blessed day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
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Subject: [isoc_ke] EU hits Google with Anti-Trust complaint To: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke, ISOC@lists.my.co.ke Date: Friday, 22 April, 2016, 3:31
Listers This should be interesting. EU hits Google EU officials say Google forces phone makers and carriers to install its services. For many Android users, one of the appealing things about Google’s mobile operating system is that it is an open ecosystem—anyone can install or modify it, since it is open source, and users can run any apps they want, something they can’t do on Apple’s iOS devices. But the European Union doesn’t see it that way. To the EU, Android is a just tool that Google uses to expand its mobile and search monopolies.Read on:- http://fortune.com/2016/04/21/eu-google-antitrust/Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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Tony that story is simmilar to FirefoxOS. What happened to them? On 22 Apr 2016 11:10 am, "Tony White via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
"It is the only open platform that is out there that is easily accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many manufacturers would like it to work."
Not quite true
Ubuntu (Linux) has a version for phones - still 'beta', although two (Chinese) phone manufacturers are already shipping phones and tablets with Ubuntu installed. This is totally free and open source, with no ulterior motive behind it.
I, for one, will buy my next phone with Ubuntu - and then have consistency across all platforms - desktop, laptop, tablet, phone, and IoT devices.
Note that Android is also built on a Linux base - but with Google's proprietary 'bits' on top.
Great points Ahmed.
As I said this is definitely an interesting one to watch and one that has lessons for us in Kenya as we grapple with our own 'Dominance' issues.
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
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On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a tricky issue in many ways:
1. Android is an appealing product to put onto a Smart Phone
On 22/04/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: platform.
Its not only designed for a Smart Phone, its designed also for TV boxes, and other appliances. It is the only open platform that is out there that is easily accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many manufacturers would like it to work. 2. Google is not doing this for free. Its doing this because it wants to roll out its services to the manufacturer who may want to receive its "free" product to kick start their operations. 3. Rival platforms face some problems Android has solved: Either it being running on costly hardware (iPhone's iOS) or it being not lucrative as an option to drive hardware sales (Windows, Blackberry, etc). 4. Infact the platforms like iOS, Blackberry, Windows have the same issues: They either push iCloud (Apple), BlackBerry services or Bing (Microsoft) as bundled products. 5. Various open attempts have been developed but adoption has brought them down - a good example of FirefoxOS by Mozilla. FirefoxOS would have solved this exact same problem. Is it then that the corporates are not willing to invest in such platforms?
Ahmed
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 4:50 AM, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Happy Furahi Day!
Thank you for sharing the piece!
"One big difference in U.S. antitrust law is that the ultimate barometer of whether something is illegal is whether it negatively affects the consumer—for example, by raising the price of a product or service. That would make it difficult to prosecute Google for antitrust behavior, since the vast majority of its products are free. The European Union, however, doesn’t need to make that argument—it’s free to find Google’s behavior illegal regardless of what it costs."
ISOC KE during the next Internet Governance Forum, the Competition Authority would be a great guest to "demystify this Anti-Trust, Dominance terms and practical application.
Today's local tech start-up may be less concerned, however, it is the next global tech giant soon.
Blessed day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
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Subject: [isoc_ke] EU hits Google with Anti-Trust complaint To: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke, ISOC@lists.my.co.ke Date: Friday, 22 April, 2016, 3:31
Listers This should be interesting. EU hits Google EU officials say Google forces phone makers and carriers to install its services. For many Android users, one of the appealing things about Google’s mobile operating system is that it is an open ecosystem—anyone can install or modify it, since it is open source, and users can run any apps they want, something they can’t do on Apple’s iOS devices. But the European Union doesn’t see it that way. To the EU, Android is a just tool that Google uses to expand its mobile and search monopolies.Read on:- http://fortune.com/2016/04/21/eu-google-antitrust/Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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Time will tell - at least Ubuntu is now shipping on phones and tablets (and desktops and laptops) ...And Ubuntu is an already established OS - FirefoxOS was a new, 'unknown' OS - it was just not the right approach. Interestingly, with the right OS, I should be able to hang a monitor, keyboard and mouse off my 'phone' and have a desktop 100 times more powerful than the Compaq pentium I bought for 150,000 bob almost 20 years ago, for a tenth the price! We are in a transition period - the desktop/laptop will be dead in a couple of years, except for 'power' workstations, which will persist a bit longer. On 22/04/2016, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy <ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote:
Tony that story is simmilar to FirefoxOS. What happened to them? On 22 Apr 2016 11:10 am, "Tony White via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
"It is the only open platform that is out there that is easily accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many manufacturers would like it to work."
Not quite true
Ubuntu (Linux) has a version for phones - still 'beta', although two (Chinese) phone manufacturers are already shipping phones and tablets with Ubuntu installed. This is totally free and open source, with no ulterior motive behind it.
I, for one, will buy my next phone with Ubuntu - and then have consistency across all platforms - desktop, laptop, tablet, phone, and IoT devices.
Note that Android is also built on a Linux base - but with Google's proprietary 'bits' on top.
Great points Ahmed.
As I said this is definitely an interesting one to watch and one that has lessons for us in Kenya as we grapple with our own 'Dominance' issues.
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
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On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a tricky issue in many ways:
1. Android is an appealing product to put onto a Smart Phone
On 22/04/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: platform.
Its not only designed for a Smart Phone, its designed also for TV boxes, and other appliances. It is the only open platform that is out there that is easily accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many manufacturers would like it to work. 2. Google is not doing this for free. Its doing this because it wants to roll out its services to the manufacturer who may want to receive its "free" product to kick start their operations. 3. Rival platforms face some problems Android has solved: Either it being running on costly hardware (iPhone's iOS) or it being not lucrative as an option to drive hardware sales (Windows, Blackberry, etc). 4. Infact the platforms like iOS, Blackberry, Windows have the same issues: They either push iCloud (Apple), BlackBerry services or Bing (Microsoft) as bundled products. 5. Various open attempts have been developed but adoption has brought them down - a good example of FirefoxOS by Mozilla. FirefoxOS would have solved this exact same problem. Is it then that the corporates are not willing to invest in such platforms?
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On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 4:50 AM, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Happy Furahi Day!
Thank you for sharing the piece!
"One big difference in U.S. antitrust law is that the ultimate barometer of whether something is illegal is whether it negatively affects the consumer—for example, by raising the price of a product or service. That would make it difficult to prosecute Google for antitrust behavior, since the vast majority of its products are free. The European Union, however, doesn’t need to make that argument—it’s free to find Google’s behavior illegal regardless of what it costs."
ISOC KE during the next Internet Governance Forum, the Competition Authority would be a great guest to "demystify this Anti-Trust, Dominance terms and practical application.
Today's local tech start-up may be less concerned, however, it is the next global tech giant soon.
Blessed day.
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Subject: [isoc_ke] EU hits Google with Anti-Trust complaint To: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke, ISOC@lists.my.co.ke Date: Friday, 22 April, 2016, 3:31
Listers This should be interesting. EU hits Google EU officials say Google forces phone makers and carriers to install its services. For many Android users, one of the appealing things about Google’s mobile operating system is that it is an open ecosystem—anyone can install or modify it, since it is open source, and users can run any apps they want, something they can’t do on Apple’s iOS devices. But the European Union doesn’t see it that way. To the EU, Android is a just tool that Google uses to expand its mobile and search monopolies.Read on:- http://fortune.com/2016/04/21/eu-google-antitrust/Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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Hi Listers, This is really interesting, every corporate has an end-game in regards to every action even "free" pre-installed services. I think the EU officials may be making a good move in regards to preventing a corporate mischief. It is better than one day trying to reverse a complete dominance. Sounds like a script to a dooms-day sci-fi! Regards, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu Cell : +254 718181644/771632344 Skype : Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Tony that story is simmilar to FirefoxOS. What happened to them? On 22 Apr 2016 11:10 am, "Tony White via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
"It is the only open platform that is out there that is easily accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many manufacturers would like it to work."
Not quite true
Ubuntu (Linux) has a version for phones - still 'beta', although two (Chinese) phone manufacturers are already shipping phones and tablets with Ubuntu installed. This is totally free and open source, with no ulterior motive behind it.
I, for one, will buy my next phone with Ubuntu - and then have consistency across all platforms - desktop, laptop, tablet, phone, and IoT devices.
Note that Android is also built on a Linux base - but with Google's proprietary 'bits' on top.
Great points Ahmed.
As I said this is definitely an interesting one to watch and one that has lessons for us in Kenya as we grapple with our own 'Dominance' issues.
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On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a tricky issue in many ways:
1. Android is an appealing product to put onto a Smart Phone
Its not only designed for a Smart Phone, its designed also for TV boxes, and other appliances. It is the only open platform that is out there that is easily accessible and can be tuned to work in ways many manufacturers would like it to work. 2. Google is not doing this for free. Its doing this because it wants to roll out its services to the manufacturer who may want to receive its "free" product to kick start their operations. 3. Rival platforms face some problems Android has solved: Either it being running on costly hardware (iPhone's iOS) or it being not lucrative as an option to drive hardware sales (Windows, Blackberry, etc). 4. Infact the platforms like iOS, Blackberry, Windows have the same issues: They either push iCloud (Apple), BlackBerry services or Bing (Microsoft) as bundled products. 5. Various open attempts have been developed but adoption has brought them down - a good example of FirefoxOS by Mozilla. FirefoxOS would have solved this exact same problem. Is it then that the corporates are not willing to invest in such platforms?
Ahmed
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 4:50 AM, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Happy Furahi Day!
Thank you for sharing the piece!
"One big difference in U.S. antitrust law is that the ultimate barometer of whether something is illegal is whether it negatively affects the consumer—for example, by raising the price of a product or service. That would make it difficult to prosecute Google for antitrust behavior, since the vast majority of its products are free. The European Union, however, doesn’t need to make that argument—it’s free to find Google’s behavior illegal regardless of what it costs."
ISOC KE during the next Internet Governance Forum, the Competition Authority would be a great guest to "demystify this Anti-Trust, Dominance terms and practical application.
Today's local tech start-up may be less concerned, however, it is the next global tech giant soon.
Blessed day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
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Subject: [isoc_ke] EU hits Google with Anti-Trust complaint To: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke, ISOC@lists.my.co.ke Date: Friday, 22 April, 2016, 3:31
Listers This should be interesting. EU hits Google EU officials say Google forces phone makers and carriers to install its services. For many Android users, one of the appealing things about Google’s mobile operating system is that it is an open ecosystem—anyone can install or modify it, since it is open source, and users can run any apps they want, something they can’t do on Apple’s iOS devices. But the European Union doesn’t see it that way. To the EU, Android is a just tool that Google uses to expand its mobile and search monopolies.Read on:- http://fortune.com/2016/04/21/eu-google-antitrust/Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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Ahmed Mohamed Maawy -
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Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu -
Tony White -
WANGARI KABIRU