Day 2 Talk2Facebook ~ Data Protection
Dear Lister! Trusting you are well, a great appreciation to all who shared their views on Day 1! We are on Day 2 of “Talk2Facebook”, today we focus on Data Protection Issues. Kenya enacted its Data Protection & Privacy Act in 2019 where the rights of individuals (data subjects) have been enhanced. Share your comments, experiences, and challenges with regard to Facebook Services along the following themes: a) Have you managed to exercise your right to access and port (move) all your data that you ever posted on FB? b) Have you managed to exercise your right to be forgotten, where you demand FB deletes all the digital footprint they have about? c) Have you managed to exercise your right to modify or restrict the consent you previously granted to FB? You can still comment on yesterday’s topic under that thread. Otherwise, we hope to hear all your concerns around Data Protection today on this thread so tomorrow we discuss “Human Rights & Transparency” matters. Wonderful Thursday! Rest of the Program: Day 3: Human Rights & Transparency Day 4: Connectivity & Wrap Up Warm Regards, Tr. Karis Walu
Good morning listers, Mwalimu Kelvin, my *views* inline below On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 6:01 AM Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Lister!
Trusting you are well, a great appreciation to all who shared their views on Day 1! We are on Day 2 of “Talk2Facebook”, today we focus on Data Protection Issues.
Kenya enacted its Data Protection & Privacy Act in 2019 where the rights of individuals (data subjects) have been enhanced. Share your comments, experiences, and challenges with regard to Facebook Services along the following themes:
a) Have you managed to exercise your right to access and port (move) all your data that you ever posted on FB?
b) Have you managed to exercise your right to be forgotten, where you
demand FB deletes all the digital footprint they have about?
*As the adage goes, "the internet doesn't forget". Many have been adversely affected in their careers and or personal lives over stands they held as younger immature individuals. Despite have made a step out of those stands, the past inadvertently comes back to haunt them through an FB post. The documentary " Facebook follies" has some examples.*
c) Have you managed to exercise your right to modify or restrict the consent you previously granted to FB?
*This goes far beyond only that given to FB. There has been instances of love affairs gone south and a one decides to "punish" the other by posting very personal photos. On the other side there are those fake accounts that use other people's identities eg photo to purport to be them, FB has many a time failed to act and people's lives have been messed. *
You can still comment on yesterday’s topic under that thread. Otherwise, we hope to hear all your concerns around Data Protection today on this thread so tomorrow we discuss “Human Rights & Transparency” matters.
Wonderful Thursday!
Rest of the Program:
Day 3: Human Rights & Transparency
Day 4: Connectivity & Wrap Up
Warm Regards,
Tr. Karis
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Thank you for this opportunity. As a person who speaks truth to power and who uses Facebook as one of the platforms for this, I use a VPN to safeguard my connections and data. One of the mobile VPN is Orbort, a TOR Project App. Tor works by switching to different servers across the world which means device IPs keep changing. This results in Facebook occasionally asking me to verify logins from a different country, which I do through two factor authentication. My question is, why does FB then require me to change my password EVERY TIME this happens, even after verification of identity using two factor authentication? Warm regards, Mutemi wa Kiama Thoughts become things... choose the good ones! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public Intellectual, Social Justice & Social Accountability Entrepreneur, Strategic Planning & Organizational Development Facilitator, Strategic Communications, Movement Building Coach, Human Rights Defender, #DevolutionIsRevolution Champion. The Wanjiku Agenda Kenya Foundation (WAKenya) Ordinary, fearless Kenyans. https://www.linkedin.com/in/edwin-mutemi-wa-kiama-1aa51615/ Sauti Ya Wanjiku Social Movement www.sautiyawanjiku.com https://www.facebook.com/wanjikurevolutionkenya https://twitter.com/WanjikuRevolt https://twitter.com/MutemiWaKiama http://www.scribd.com/wmkenya "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~Margaret Mead On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 06:01 Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Lister!
Trusting you are well, a great appreciation to all who shared their views on Day 1! We are on Day 2 of “Talk2Facebook”, today we focus on Data Protection Issues.
Kenya enacted its Data Protection & Privacy Act in 2019 where the rights of individuals (data subjects) have been enhanced. Share your comments, experiences, and challenges with regard to Facebook Services along the following themes:
a) Have you managed to exercise your right to access and port (move) all your data that you ever posted on FB?
b) Have you managed to exercise your right to be forgotten, where you demand FB deletes all the digital footprint they have about?
c) Have you managed to exercise your right to modify or restrict the consent you previously granted to FB?
You can still comment on yesterday’s topic under that thread. Otherwise, we hope to hear all your concerns around Data Protection today on this thread so tomorrow we discuss “Human Rights & Transparency” matters.
Wonderful Thursday!
Rest of the Program:
Day 3: Human Rights & Transparency
Day 4: Connectivity & Wrap Up
Warm Regards,
Tr. Karis
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@Tr Karis, With Kenya enacting its Data Protection Act late last year, I would have thot the Data Protection theme would have elicited more responses....but perhaps that is precisely why we need the conversation to raise awareness... Nway, my experience is that FB has come a long way to be compliant with Data Protection matters - particularly following the EU GDPR enactment in 2018...their Privacy page says more. | | Data Policy | There seems to be still some problems however, and recently Irish Data Protection Commissioner ruled that EU Citizen would no longer be send to US servers...since the US Gov can have access to it. | | | WSJ News Exclusive | Ireland to Order F... | I just need to understand the role and extend of government surveillance on FB user data and how transparent FB is abou this. walu. On Thursday, September 17, 2020, 06:01:36 AM GMT+3, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Dear Lister! Trusting you are well, a great appreciation to all who shared their views on Day 1! Weare on Day 2 of “Talk2Facebook”, today we focus on Data Protection Issues. Kenya enacted itsData Protection & Privacy Act in 2019 where the rights of individuals (datasubjects) have been enhanced. Share your comments, experiences, and challengeswith regard to Facebook Services along the following themes: a) Have youmanaged to exercise your right to access and port (move) all your data that youever posted on FB? b) Have youmanaged to exercise your right to be forgotten, where you demand FB deletes allthe digital footprint they have about? c) Have youmanaged to exercise your right to modify or restrict the consent you previouslygranted to FB? You can still comment onyesterday’s topic under that thread. Otherwise, we hope to hear all yourconcerns around Data Protection today on this thread so tomorrow we discuss “Human Rights & Transparency” matters. Wonderful Thursday! Rest of the Program: Day 3: Human Rights &Transparency Day 4: Connectivity &Wrap Up Warm Regards, Tr. Karis Walu _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Thank you Twahir, Mutemi & Walu for your input. We hope the FB Personnel on the list will respond to some of the issues you have raised. Indeed we thought this particular topic on Data Protection will elicit more responses than we've got, the floor is still open and you don't necessarily need to respond to the set questions, you can raise any other issue around Data Protection of Facebook. Tomorrow we talk about "Human Rights & Transparency". Thank you all! On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 4:07 PM Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Tr Karis,
With Kenya enacting its Data Protection Act late last year, I would have thot the Data Protection theme would have elicited more responses....but perhaps that is precisely why we need the conversation to raise awareness...
Nway, my experience is that FB has come a long way to be compliant with Data Protection matters - particularly following the EU GDPR enactment in 2018...their Privacy <https://www.facebook.com/privacy/explanation>page says more.
Data Policy <https://www.facebook.com/privacy/explanation> There seems to be still some problems however, and recently Irish Data Protection Commissioner ruled <https://www.wsj.com/articles/ireland-to-order-facebook-to-stop-sending-user-data-to-u-s-11599671980?st=gpoha5h5u6vnl35&reflink=article_email_share> that EU Citizen would no longer be send to US servers...since the US Gov can have access to it.
WSJ News Exclusive | Ireland to Order F... <https://www.wsj.com/articles/ireland-to-order-facebook-to-stop-sending-user-data-to-u-s-11599671980?st=gpoha5h5u6vnl35&reflink=article_email_share>
I just need to understand the role and extend of government surveillance on FB user data and how transparent FB is abou this.
walu.
On Thursday, September 17, 2020, 06:01:36 AM GMT+3, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Lister!
Trusting you are well, a great appreciation to all who shared their views on Day 1! We are on Day 2 of “Talk2Facebook”, today we focus on Data Protection Issues.
Kenya enacted its Data Protection & Privacy Act in 2019 where the rights of individuals (data subjects) have been enhanced. Share your comments, experiences, and challenges with regard to Facebook Services along the following themes:
a) Have you managed to exercise your right to access and port (move) all your data that you ever posted on FB?
b) Have you managed to exercise your right to be forgotten, where you demand FB deletes all the digital footprint they have about?
c) Have you managed to exercise your right to modify or restrict the consent you previously granted to FB?
You can still comment on yesterday’s topic under that thread. Otherwise, we hope to hear all your concerns around Data Protection today on this thread so tomorrow we discuss “Human Rights & Transparency” matters.
Wonderful Thursday!
Rest of the Program:
Day 3: Human Rights & Transparency
Day 4: Connectivity & Wrap Up
Warm Regards,
Tr. Karis
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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Hi Kelvin Yes, we shall certainly respond to the questions raised on the various topics. We are taking note of them all and will work closely with the KICTANET team to ensure that they are all addressed during the upcoming webinar on 30th September. Thank you to all that have taken the time to flag questions or seek clarification on the suggested topics or any others relating to your experiences with our platforms. We hope you shall join us for the webinar. Kind Regards Mercy Ndegwa Head of Public Policy, East & Horn of Africa [signature_708820839] From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+shikondegwa=fb.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 8:59 PM To: Mercy Ndegwa <shikondegwa@fb.com> Cc: Kelvin Kariuki <kelvinkariuki89@gmail.com>, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 2 Talk2Facebook ~ Data Protection Thank you Twahir, Mutemi & Walu for your input. We hope the FB Personnel on the list will respond to some of the issues you have raised. Indeed we thought this particular topic on Data Protection will elicit more responses than we've got, the floor is still open and you don't necessarily need to respond to the set questions, you can raise any other issue around Data Protection of Facebook. Tomorrow we talk about "Human Rights & Transparency". Thank you all! On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 4:07 PM Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> wrote: @Tr Karis, With Kenya enacting its Data Protection Act late last year, I would have thot the Data Protection theme would have elicited more responses....but perhaps that is precisely why we need the conversation to raise awareness... Nway, my experience is that FB has come a long way to be compliant with Data Protection matters - particularly following the EU GDPR enactment in 2018...their Privacy <https://www.facebook.com/privacy/explanation> page says more. [Image removed by sender.] Data Policy There seems to be still some problems however, and recently Irish Data Protection Commissioner ruled<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.wsj.com_articles_ireland-2Dto-2Dorder-2Dfacebook-2Dto-2Dstop-2Dsending-2Duser-2Ddata-2Dto-2Du-2Ds-2D11599671980-3Fst-3Dgpoha5h5u6vnl35-26reflink-3Darticle-5Femail-5Fshare&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=afuhbrVP9ePjVOLvd-5n9mbCZX9ESg7cHhfQe7ka41M&s=sB4PxdgdJ9iQWj9Gl5HD3iw3O6BFEktQnjgzvasnsf8&e=> that EU Citizen would no longer be send to US servers...since the US Gov can have access to it. [Image removed by sender.] [Image removed by sender.] WSJ News Exclusive | Ireland to Order F... I just need to understand the role and extend of government surveillance on FB user data and how transparent FB is abou this. walu. On Thursday, September 17, 2020, 06:01:36 AM GMT+3, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Dear Lister! Trusting you are well, a great appreciation to all who shared their views on Day 1! We are on Day 2 of “Talk2Facebook”, today we focus on Data Protection Issues. Kenya enacted its Data Protection & Privacy Act in 2019 where the rights of individuals (data subjects) have been enhanced. Share your comments, experiences, and challenges with regard to Facebook Services along the following themes: a) Have you managed to exercise your right to access and port (move) all your data that you ever posted on FB? b) Have you managed to exercise your right to be forgotten, where you demand FB deletes all the digital footprint they have about? c) Have you managed to exercise your right to modify or restrict the consent you previously granted to FB? You can still comment on yesterday’s topic under that thread. Otherwise, we hope to hear all your concerns around Data Protection today on this thread so tomorrow we discuss “Human Rights & Transparency” matters. Wonderful Thursday! Rest of the Program: Day 3: Human Rights & Transparency Day 4: Connectivity & Wrap Up Warm Regards, Tr. 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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Dear Mercy, Thank you for acknowledging that you are picking up the concerns raised here, indeed we will collate all of them into a report which will for part of the deliberations on the Webinar day, Wed 30th Sept, 2020. Listers, let's keep the comments coming! Thank you for your support thus far. On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 2:19 PM David Indeje via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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Social media and Mass media: Who has the Political Midas touch? https://www.kbc.co.ke/social-media-and-mass-media-who-has-the-political-mida...
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Hi Mercy, Thank you for acknowledging the collaboration between FB and KICTAnet on this, indeed we look forward to the webinar to hear from you, your team and the participants. It is our hope that as many listers as possible will participate in the webinar and that those who will not have the chance to attend will benefit from your written response to the raised questions & suggestions. I'm eagerly awaiting the webinar on 30th Sept. Thank you! Warm regards, Tr. Karis On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 11:44 AM Mercy Ndegwa <shikondegwa@fb.com> wrote:
Hi Kelvin
Yes, we shall certainly respond to the questions raised on the various topics. We are taking note of them all and will work closely with the KICTANET team to ensure that they are all addressed during the upcoming webinar on 30th September.
Thank you to all that have taken the time to flag questions or seek clarification on the suggested topics or any others relating to your experiences with our platforms. We hope you shall join us for the webinar.
Kind Regards
Mercy Ndegwa
Head of Public Policy, East & Horn of Africa
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*From: *kictanet <kictanet-bounces+shikondegwa=fb.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Reply-To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
*Date: *Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 8:59 PM *To: *Mercy Ndegwa <shikondegwa@fb.com> *Cc: *Kelvin Kariuki <kelvinkariuki89@gmail.com>, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] Day 2 Talk2Facebook ~ Data Protection
Thank you Twahir, Mutemi & Walu for your input. We hope the FB Personnel on the list will respond to
some of the issues you have raised.
Indeed we thought this particular topic on Data Protection will elicit more responses than we've got,
the floor is still open and you don't necessarily need to respond to the set questions, you can raise any
other issue around Data Protection of Facebook.
Tomorrow we talk about "Human Rights & Transparency". Thank you all!
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 4:07 PM Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Tr Karis,
With Kenya enacting its Data Protection Act late last year, I would have thot the Data Protection theme would have elicited more responses....but perhaps that is precisely why we need the conversation to raise awareness...
Nway, my experience is that FB has come a long way to be compliant with Data Protection matters - particularly following the EU GDPR enactment in 2018...their Privacy <https://www.facebook.com/privacy/explanation> page says more.
[image: Image removed by sender.] Data Policy
There seems to be still some problems however, and recently Irish Data Protection Commissioner ruled <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.wsj.com_articles_ireland-2Dto-2Dorder-2Dfacebook-2Dto-2Dstop-2Dsending-2Duser-2Ddata-2Dto-2Du-2Ds-2D11599671980-3Fst-3Dgpoha5h5u6vnl35-26reflink-3Darticle-5Femail-5Fshare&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=afuhbrVP9ePjVOLvd-5n9mbCZX9ESg7cHhfQe7ka41M&s=sB4PxdgdJ9iQWj9Gl5HD3iw3O6BFEktQnjgzvasnsf8&e=> that EU Citizen would no longer be send to US servers...since the US Gov can have access to it.
[image: Image removed by sender.]
[image: Image removed by sender.] WSJ News Exclusive | Ireland to Order F...
I just need to understand the role and extend of government surveillance on FB user data and how transparent FB is abou this.
walu.
On Thursday, September 17, 2020, 06:01:36 AM GMT+3, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Lister!
Trusting you are well, a great appreciation to all who shared their views on Day 1! We are on Day 2 of “Talk2Facebook”, today we focus on Data Protection Issues.
Kenya enacted its Data Protection & Privacy Act in 2019 where the rights of individuals (data subjects) have been enhanced. Share your comments, experiences, and challenges with regard to Facebook Services along the following themes:
a) Have you managed to exercise your right to access and port (move) all your data that you ever posted on FB?
b) Have you managed to exercise your right to be forgotten, where you demand FB deletes all the digital footprint they have about?
c) Have you managed to exercise your right to modify or restrict the consent you previously granted to FB?
You can still comment on yesterday’s topic under that thread. Otherwise, we hope to hear all your concerns around Data Protection today on this thread so tomorrow we discuss “Human Rights & Transparency” matters.
Wonderful Thursday!
Rest of the Program:
Day 3: Human Rights & Transparency
Day 4: Connectivity & Wrap Up
Warm Regards,
Tr. Karis
Walu
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The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
-- Best Regards, Kelvin Kariuki Assistant Lecturer Multimedia University of Kenya Faculty of Computing and Information Technology Twitter Handle: @teacherkaris Alt email: kkariuki@mmu.ac.ke Mobile: +2547 29 385 557 The Lord is my Shepherd
Thank you Karis for the great moderation. For those who may not know, Karis was in the first cohort of our Kenya School of Internet Governance (KeSIG). Great job! Listers, the webinar will take place on *September 30 from 15.30 to 17.00 pm. *Details will be shared in due course. Rgds Grace On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 1:14 PM Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Mercy, Thank you for acknowledging the collaboration between FB and KICTAnet on this, indeed we look forward to the webinar to hear from you, your team and the participants.
It is our hope that as many listers as possible will participate in the webinar and that those who will not have the chance to attend will benefit from your written response to the raised questions & suggestions.
I'm eagerly awaiting the webinar on 30th Sept. Thank you!
Warm regards, Tr. Karis
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 11:44 AM Mercy Ndegwa <shikondegwa@fb.com> wrote:
Hi Kelvin
Yes, we shall certainly respond to the questions raised on the various topics. We are taking note of them all and will work closely with the KICTANET team to ensure that they are all addressed during the upcoming webinar on 30th September.
Thank you to all that have taken the time to flag questions or seek clarification on the suggested topics or any others relating to your experiences with our platforms. We hope you shall join us for the webinar.
Kind Regards
Mercy Ndegwa
Head of Public Policy, East & Horn of Africa
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*From: *kictanet <kictanet-bounces+shikondegwa= fb.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Reply-To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Date: *Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 8:59 PM *To: *Mercy Ndegwa <shikondegwa@fb.com> *Cc: *Kelvin Kariuki <kelvinkariuki89@gmail.com>, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] Day 2 Talk2Facebook ~ Data Protection
Thank you Twahir, Mutemi & Walu for your input. We hope the FB Personnel on the list will respond to
some of the issues you have raised.
Indeed we thought this particular topic on Data Protection will elicit more responses than we've got,
the floor is still open and you don't necessarily need to respond to the set questions, you can raise any
other issue around Data Protection of Facebook.
Tomorrow we talk about "Human Rights & Transparency". Thank you all!
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 4:07 PM Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Tr Karis,
With Kenya enacting its Data Protection Act late last year, I would have thot the Data Protection theme would have elicited more responses....but perhaps that is precisely why we need the conversation to raise awareness...
Nway, my experience is that FB has come a long way to be compliant with Data Protection matters - particularly following the EU GDPR enactment in 2018...their Privacy <https://www.facebook.com/privacy/explanation> page says more.
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There seems to be still some problems however, and recently Irish Data Protection Commissioner ruled <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.wsj.com_articles_ireland-2Dto-2Dorder-2Dfacebook-2Dto-2Dstop-2Dsending-2Duser-2Ddata-2Dto-2Du-2Ds-2D11599671980-3Fst-3Dgpoha5h5u6vnl35-26reflink-3Darticle-5Femail-5Fshare&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=4jc2RtxQueb5oR1v9Wv1j7DBnwd38crpFAVcpsYYjfo&m=afuhbrVP9ePjVOLvd-5n9mbCZX9ESg7cHhfQe7ka41M&s=sB4PxdgdJ9iQWj9Gl5HD3iw3O6BFEktQnjgzvasnsf8&e=> that EU Citizen would no longer be send to US servers...since the US Gov can have access to it.
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I just need to understand the role and extend of government surveillance on FB user data and how transparent FB is abou this.
walu.
On Thursday, September 17, 2020, 06:01:36 AM GMT+3, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Lister!
Trusting you are well, a great appreciation to all who shared their views on Day 1! We are on Day 2 of “Talk2Facebook”, today we focus on Data Protection Issues.
Kenya enacted its Data Protection & Privacy Act in 2019 where the rights of individuals (data subjects) have been enhanced. Share your comments, experiences, and challenges with regard to Facebook Services along the following themes:
a) Have you managed to exercise your right to access and port (move) all your data that you ever posted on FB?
b) Have you managed to exercise your right to be forgotten, where you demand FB deletes all the digital footprint they have about?
c) Have you managed to exercise your right to modify or restrict the consent you previously granted to FB?
You can still comment on yesterday’s topic under that thread. Otherwise, we hope to hear all your concerns around Data Protection today on this thread so tomorrow we discuss “Human Rights & Transparency” matters.
Wonderful Thursday!
Rest of the Program:
Day 3: Human Rights & Transparency
Day 4: Connectivity & Wrap Up
Warm Regards,
Tr. Karis
Walu
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The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
-- Best Regards,
Kelvin Kariuki Assistant Lecturer Multimedia University of Kenya Faculty of Computing and Information Technology Twitter Handle: @teacherkaris Alt email: kkariuki@mmu.ac.ke Mobile: +2547 29 385 557
The Lord is my Shepherd
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Responding to Walu's question,I think the Kenyan government still has not put proper legal channels when demanding information about private Kenyan users from Facebook.According Facebook policies , they don't respond to requests not channelled through formal legal process initiated.Powered by Cricket Wireless -------- Original message --------From: Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: 9/17/20 1:59 PM (GMT-05:00) To: wachiranancy91@yahoo.com Cc: Kelvin Kariuki <kelvinkariuki89@gmail.com>, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 2 Talk2Facebook ~ Data Protection Thank you Twahir, Mutemi & Walu for your input. We hope the FB Personnel on the list will respond tosome of the issues you have raised. Indeed we thought this particular topic on Data Protection will elicit more responses than we've got,the floor is still open and you don't necessarily need to respond to the set questions, you can raise anyother issue around Data Protection of Facebook. Tomorrow we talk about "Human Rights & Transparency". Thank you all! On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 4:07 PM Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: @Tr Karis,With Kenya enacting its Data Protection Act late last year, I would have thot the Data Protection theme would have elicited more responses....but perhaps that is precisely why we need the conversation to raise awareness...Nway, my experience is that FB has come a long way to be compliant with Data Protection matters - particularly following the EU GDPR enactment in 2018...their Privacy page says more.Data Policy There seems to be still some problems however, and recently Irish Data Protection Commissioner ruled that EU Citizen would no longer be send to US servers...since the US Gov can have access to it.WSJ News Exclusive | Ireland to Order F...I just need to understand the role and extend of government surveillance on FB user data and how transparent FB is abou this.walu. On Thursday, September 17, 2020, 06:01:36 AM GMT+3, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Dear Lister! Trusting you are well, a great appreciation to all who shared their views on Day 1! We are on Day 2 of “Talk2Facebook”, today we focus on Data Protection Issues. Kenya enacted its Data Protection & Privacy Act in 2019 where the rights of individuals (data subjects) have been enhanced. Share your comments, experiences, and challenges with regard to Facebook Services along the following themes: a) Have you managed to exercise your right to access and port (move) all your data that you ever posted on FB? b) Have you managed to exercise your right to be forgotten, where you demand FB deletes all the digital footprint they have about? c) Have you managed to exercise your right to modify or restrict the consent you previously granted to FB? You can still comment on yesterday’s topic under that thread. Otherwise, we hope to hear all your concerns around Data Protection today on this thread so tomorrow we discuss “Human Rights & Transparency” matters. Wonderful Thursday! Rest of the Program: Day 3: Human Rights & Transparency Day 4: Connectivity & Wrap Up Warm Regards, Tr. Karis Walu_______________________________________________kictanet mailing listkictanet@lists.kictanet.or.kehttps://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanetTwitter: http://twitter.com/kictanetFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.comThe Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Does Facebook see itself as a data controller,data processor or both?For each ,can provide details in which instances these relate to?Regards Nancy.Powered by Cricket Wireless -------- Original message --------From: Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: 9/17/20 1:59 PM (GMT-05:00) To: wachiranancy91@yahoo.com Cc: Kelvin Kariuki <kelvinkariuki89@gmail.com>, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 2 Talk2Facebook ~ Data Protection Thank you Twahir, Mutemi & Walu for your input. We hope the FB Personnel on the list will respond tosome of the issues you have raised. Indeed we thought this particular topic on Data Protection will elicit more responses than we've got,the floor is still open and you don't necessarily need to respond to the set questions, you can raise anyother issue around Data Protection of Facebook. Tomorrow we talk about "Human Rights & Transparency". Thank you all! On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 4:07 PM Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: @Tr Karis,With Kenya enacting its Data Protection Act late last year, I would have thot the Data Protection theme would have elicited more responses....but perhaps that is precisely why we need the conversation to raise awareness...Nway, my experience is that FB has come a long way to be compliant with Data Protection matters - particularly following the EU GDPR enactment in 2018...their Privacy page says more.Data Policy There seems to be still some problems however, and recently Irish Data Protection Commissioner ruled that EU Citizen would no longer be send to US servers...since the US Gov can have access to it.WSJ News Exclusive | Ireland to Order F...I just need to understand the role and extend of government surveillance on FB user data and how transparent FB is abou this.walu. On Thursday, September 17, 2020, 06:01:36 AM GMT+3, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Dear Lister! Trusting you are well, a great appreciation to all who shared their views on Day 1! We are on Day 2 of “Talk2Facebook”, today we focus on Data Protection Issues. Kenya enacted its Data Protection & Privacy Act in 2019 where the rights of individuals (data subjects) have been enhanced. Share your comments, experiences, and challenges with regard to Facebook Services along the following themes: a) Have you managed to exercise your right to access and port (move) all your data that you ever posted on FB? b) Have you managed to exercise your right to be forgotten, where you demand FB deletes all the digital footprint they have about? c) Have you managed to exercise your right to modify or restrict the consent you previously granted to FB? You can still comment on yesterday’s topic under that thread. Otherwise, we hope to hear all your concerns around Data Protection today on this thread so tomorrow we discuss “Human Rights & Transparency” matters. Wonderful Thursday! Rest of the Program: Day 3: Human Rights & Transparency Day 4: Connectivity & Wrap Up Warm Regards, Tr. Karis Walu_______________________________________________kictanet mailing listkictanet@lists.kictanet.or.kehttps://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanetTwitter: http://twitter.com/kictanetFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.comThe Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
participants (8)
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David Indeje -
Grace Githaiga -
Kelvin Kariuki -
Mercy Ndegwa -
Mutemi wa Kiama -
Twahir Hussein Kassim -
wachiranancy91 -
Walubengo J