Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
Many thanks to the organisers and facilitators for the great event, however i wasnt given a satisfactory answer regarding the following *The state of digital divide in Kenya What the country is currently using the internet for. The number of internet users in the country at the moment.* While i appreciate the fact that there are some statistics on the CCK website they are not up to date i wonder why this is the case, in the context of internet governance *"how can you govern what you dont know?" *(thinking globally acting locally) i am of the opinion though it is belated that some of this statistics could have been collected in the forthcoming census. Nonetheless i was impressed by the active participation by Hon Engineer Okundi and Hon Eng Rege, this is what leadership is all about, lest we forget my point i got this from the CCK website and i hope i will be answered * Publications and Statistics * The Commission collates industry statistics and other information to assist new market entrants with the basic information required to make commercial decisions. The data is also utilized by researchers, the media and other stakeholders. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Solomon Mburu <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear All,
I'm also appreciative of the organizers of the 2009 KIGF. One thing I acknowledged is the exchange of views and ideas which shows how the issue of internet governance is an important tool in national development.
The organizers did a commendable job altogether!
Regards,
Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
*Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!*
AND
*It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! *
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Hi Barrack - maybe you had walked out of the room briefly but it was stated that next week's national census will be gathering information about Internet usage in the country. Kind Regards, Waudo On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:31 +0300, "Barrack Otieno" <[email protected]> wrote: Many thanks to the organisers and facilitators for the great event, however i wasnt given a satisfactory answer regarding the following The state of digital divide in Kenya What the country is currently using the internet for. The number of internet users in the country at the moment. While i appreciate the fact that there are some statistics on the CCK website they are not up to date i wonder why this is the case, in the context of internet governance "how can you govern what you dont know?" (thinking globally acting locally) i am of the opinion though it is belated that some of this statistics could have been collected in the forthcoming census. Nonetheless i was impressed by the active participation by Hon Engineer Okundi and Hon Eng Rege, this is what leadership is all about, lest we forget my point i got this from the CCK website and i hope i will be answered Publications and Statistics The Commission collates industry statistics and other information to assist new market entrants with the basic information required to make commercial decisions. The data is also utilized by researchers, the media and other stakeholders. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Solomon Mburu <[1][email protected]> wrote: Dear All, I'm also appreciative of the organizers of the 2009 KIGF. One thing I acknowledged is the exchange of views and ideas which shows how the issue of internet governance is an important tool in national development. The organizers did a commendable job altogether! Regards, Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [2][email protected] [3]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [4][email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at [5]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno .barrack%40gmail.com -- Barrack O. Otieno Administrative Manager Afriregister Ltd (Ke) P.o.Box 21682 Nairobi 00100 Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 Riara Road, Bamboo Lane [6]www.afriregister.com ICANN accredited registrar. References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet 4. mailto:[email protected] 5. http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.... 6. http://www.afriregister.com/
Thanks for the Clarification Dr Siganga, i must have missed that, how about Kenya's position on management of ICANN?, that was an important issue as well On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:49 PM, waudo siganga <[email protected]>wrote:
Hi Barrack - maybe you had walked out of the room briefly but it was stated that next week's national census will be gathering information about Internet usage in the country.
Kind Regards, Waudo
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:31 +0300, "Barrack Otieno" < [email protected]> wrote:
Many thanks to the organisers and facilitators for the great event, however i wasnt given a satisfactory answer regarding the following *The state of digital divide in Kenya What the country is currently using the internet for. The number of internet users in the country at the moment.* While i appreciate the fact that there are some statistics on the CCK website they are not up to date i wonder why this is the case, in the context of internet governance *"how can you govern what you dont know?" *(thinking globally acting locally) i am of the opinion though it is belated that some of this statistics could have been collected in the forthcoming census. Nonetheless i was impressed by the active participation by Hon Engineer Okundi and Hon Eng Rege, this is what leadership is all about, lest we forget my point i got this from the CCK website and i hope i will be answered * Publications and Statistics *
The Commission collates industry statistics and other information to assist new market entrants with the basic information required to make commercial decisions. The data is also utilized by researchers, the media and other stakeholders.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Solomon Mburu <[email protected]>wrote:
Dear All,
I'm also appreciative of the organizers of the 2009 KIGF. One thing I acknowledged is the exchange of views and ideas which shows how the issue of internet governance is an important tool in national development.
The organizers did a commendable job altogether!
Regards,
Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
*Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!*
AND
*It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! *
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How will they do this? Ask someone if they use the internet?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:49:29 +0300 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
Hi Barrack - maybe you had walked out of the room briefly but it was stated that next week's national census will be gathering information about Internet usage in the country.
Kind Regards, Waudo
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:31 +0300, "Barrack Otieno" <[email protected]> wrote:
Many thanks to the organisers and facilitators for the great event, however i wasnt given a satisfactory answer regarding the following The state of digital divide in Kenya What the country is currently using the internet for. The number of internet users in the country at the moment. While i appreciate the fact that there are some statistics on the CCK website they are not up to date i wonder why this is the case, in the context of internet governance "how can you govern what you dont know?" (thinking globally acting locally) i am of the opinion though it is belated that some of this statistics could have been collected in the forthcoming census. Nonetheless i was impressed by the active participation by Hon Engineer Okundi and Hon Eng Rege, this is what leadership is all about, lest we forget my point i got this from the CCK website and i hope i will be answered Publications and Statistics The Commission collates industry statistics and other information to assist new market entrants with the basic information required to make commercial decisions. The data is also utilized by researchers, the media and other stakeholders.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Solomon Mburu <[1][email protected]> wrote:
Dear All, I'm also appreciative of the organizers of the 2009 KIGF. One thing I acknowledged is the exchange of views and ideas which shows how the issue of internet governance is an important tool in national development. The organizers did a commendable job altogether! Regards, Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [2][email protected] [3]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [4][email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at [5]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno .barrack%40gmail.com
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I actually have not seen the actual form or the exact questions. On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:36 -0800, "Onyango Hatari" <[email protected]> wrote:
How will they do this? Ask someone if they use the internet?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:49:29 +0300 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
Hi Barrack - maybe you had walked out of the room briefly but it was stated that next week's national census will be gathering information about Internet usage in the country.
Kind Regards, Waudo
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:31 +0300, "Barrack Otieno" <[email protected]> wrote:
Many thanks to the organisers and facilitators for the great event, however i wasnt given a satisfactory answer regarding the following The state of digital divide in Kenya What the country is currently using the internet for. The number of internet users in the country at the moment. While i appreciate the fact that there are some statistics on the CCK website they are not up to date i wonder why this is the case, in the context of internet governance "how can you govern what you dont know?" (thinking globally acting locally) i am of the opinion though it is belated that some of this statistics could have been collected in the forthcoming census. Nonetheless i was impressed by the active participation by Hon Engineer Okundi and Hon Eng Rege, this is what leadership is all about, lest we forget my point i got this from the CCK website and i hope i will be answered Publications and Statistics The Commission collates industry statistics and other information to assist new market entrants with the basic information required to make commercial decisions. The data is also utilized by researchers, the media and other stakeholders.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Solomon Mburu <[1][email protected]> wrote:
Dear All, I'm also appreciative of the organizers of the 2009 KIGF. One thing I acknowledged is the exchange of views and ideas which shows how the issue of internet governance is an important tool in national development. The organizers did a commendable job altogether! Regards, Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [2][email protected] [3]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [4][email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at [5]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno .barrack%40gmail.com
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Waudo I am still waiting for them to come and ask me that. OH
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:43:53 +0300 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
I actually have not seen the actual form or the exact questions.
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:36 -0800, "Onyango Hatari" <[email protected]> wrote:
How will they do this? Ask someone if they use the internet?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:49:29 +0300 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
Hi Barrack - maybe you had walked out of the room briefly but it was stated that next week's national census will be gathering information about Internet usage in the country.
Kind Regards, Waudo
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:31 +0300, "Barrack Otieno" <[email protected]> wrote:
Many thanks to the organisers and facilitators for the great event, however i wasnt given a satisfactory answer regarding the following The state of digital divide in Kenya What the country is currently using the internet for. The number of internet users in the country at the moment. While i appreciate the fact that there are some statistics on the CCK website they are not up to date i wonder why this is the case, in the context of internet governance "how can you govern what you dont know?" (thinking globally acting locally) i am of the opinion though it is belated that some of this statistics could have been collected in the forthcoming census. Nonetheless i was impressed by the active participation by Hon Engineer Okundi and Hon Eng Rege, this is what leadership is all about, lest we forget my point i got this from the CCK website and i hope i will be answered Publications and Statistics The Commission collates industry statistics and other information to assist new market entrants with the basic information required to make commercial decisions. The data is also utilized by researchers, the media and other stakeholders.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Solomon Mburu <[1][email protected]> wrote:
Dear All, I'm also appreciative of the organizers of the 2009 KIGF. One thing I acknowledged is the exchange of views and ideas which shows how the issue of internet governance is an important tool in national development. The organizers did a commendable job altogether! Regards, Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [2][email protected] [3]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [4][email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at [5]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno .barrack%40gmail.com
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HI all, McTim here, new to the list, but some of you know me from UG. Anyway, they asked me how much I used the Internet, but gave me no metric to use, so I said "every hour". Maybe my enumerators were not well trained? -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Onyango Hatari<[email protected]> wrote:
Waudo
I am still waiting for them to come and ask me that.
OH
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:43:53 +0300 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
I actually have not seen the actual form or the exact questions.
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:36 -0800, "Onyango Hatari" <[email protected]> wrote:
How will they do this? Ask someone if they use the internet?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:49:29 +0300 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
Hi Barrack - maybe you had walked out of the room briefly but it was stated that next week's national census will be gathering information about Internet usage in the country.
Kind Regards, Waudo
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:31 +0300, "Barrack Otieno" <[email protected]> wrote:
Many thanks to the organisers and facilitators for the great event, however i wasnt given a satisfactory answer regarding the following The state of digital divide in Kenya What the country is currently using the internet for. The number of internet users in the country at the moment. While i appreciate the fact that there are some statistics on the CCK website they are not up to date i wonder why this is the case, in the context of internet governance "how can you govern what you dont know?" (thinking globally acting locally) i am of the opinion though it is belated that some of this statistics could have been collected in the forthcoming census. Nonetheless i was impressed by the active participation by Hon Engineer Okundi and Hon Eng Rege, this is what leadership is all about, lest we forget my point i got this from the CCK website and i hope i will be answered Publications and Statistics The Commission collates industry statistics and other information to assist new market entrants with the basic information required to make commercial decisions. The data is also utilized by researchers, the media and other stakeholders.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Solomon Mburu <[1][email protected]> wrote:
Dear All, I'm also appreciative of the organizers of the 2009 KIGF. One thing I acknowledged is the exchange of views and ideas which shows how the issue of internet governance is an important tool in national development. The organizers did a commendable job altogether! Regards, Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [2][email protected] [3]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [4][email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at [5]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno .barrack%40gmail.com
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Hello Hatari - I am in Mombasa attending a conference since yesterday. I waited for the enumerators to come to my house for 2 days but in vain so now I have no idea what went on during the census! Waudo On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:15 -0800, "Onyango Hatari" <[email protected]> wrote:
Waudo
I am still waiting for them to come and ask me that.
OH
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:43:53 +0300 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
I actually have not seen the actual form or the exact questions.
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:36 -0800, "Onyango Hatari" <[email protected]> wrote:
How will they do this? Ask someone if they use the internet?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:49:29 +0300 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
Hi Barrack - maybe you had walked out of the room briefly but it was stated that next week's national census will be gathering information about Internet usage in the country.
Kind Regards, Waudo
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:31 +0300, "Barrack Otieno" <[email protected]> wrote:
Many thanks to the organisers and facilitators for the great event, however i wasnt given a satisfactory answer regarding the following The state of digital divide in Kenya What the country is currently using the internet for. The number of internet users in the country at the moment. While i appreciate the fact that there are some statistics on the CCK website they are not up to date i wonder why this is the case, in the context of internet governance "how can you govern what you dont know?" (thinking globally acting locally) i am of the opinion though it is belated that some of this statistics could have been collected in the forthcoming census. Nonetheless i was impressed by the active participation by Hon Engineer Okundi and Hon Eng Rege, this is what leadership is all about, lest we forget my point i got this from the CCK website and i hope i will be answered Publications and Statistics The Commission collates industry statistics and other information to assist new market entrants with the basic information required to make commercial decisions. The data is also utilized by researchers, the media and other stakeholders.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Solomon Mburu <[1][email protected]> wrote:
Dear All, I'm also appreciative of the organizers of the 2009 KIGF. One thing I acknowledged is the exchange of views and ideas which shows how the issue of internet governance is an important tool in national development. The organizers did a commendable job altogether! Regards, Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [2][email protected] [3]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [4][email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at [5]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno .barrack%40gmail.com
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Hello, I have just been counted this morning and it is interesting there is much data to do with access to ICT . For example they ask whether you access internet from office or at home and frequency. Other ICT items such as TV, Land line, Computer, Radio (they ask whether you listen to radio - which does apply in my case, except if travel by Matatu). However there was no mention of mobile phone. In addition, they ask if the children uses computer, though not specific at school or home. As a reseacher, my view is if data is analysed well, it will be quite informative as far as "Access to ICT" accross the country is concerned. Interestingly enough, the enumerator did not ask me about the contraversial "which tribe i belong to", I guess he picked it from the general responses. Others could share their experiences. Akich Kwach ----- Original Message ----- From: "waudo siganga" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
Hello Hatari - I am in Mombasa attending a conference since yesterday. I waited for the enumerators to come to my house for 2 days but in vain so now I have no idea what went on during the census! Waudo
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:15 -0800, "Onyango Hatari" <[email protected]> wrote:
Waudo
I am still waiting for them to come and ask me that.
OH
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:43:53 +0300 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
I actually have not seen the actual form or the exact questions.
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:36 -0800, "Onyango Hatari" <[email protected]> wrote:
How will they do this? Ask someone if they use the internet?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:49:29 +0300 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
Hi Barrack - maybe you had walked out of the room briefly but it was stated that next week's national census will be gathering information about Internet usage in the country.
Kind Regards, Waudo
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:31 +0300, "Barrack Otieno" <[email protected]> wrote:
Many thanks to the organisers and facilitators for the great event, however i wasnt given a satisfactory answer regarding the following The state of digital divide in Kenya What the country is currently using the internet for. The number of internet users in the country at the moment. While i appreciate the fact that there are some statistics on the CCK website they are not up to date i wonder why this is the case, in the context of internet governance "how can you govern what you dont know?" (thinking globally acting locally) i am of the opinion though it is belated that some of this statistics could have been collected in the forthcoming census. Nonetheless i was impressed by the active participation by Hon Engineer Okundi and Hon Eng Rege, this is what leadership is all about, lest we forget my point i got this from the CCK website and i hope i will be answered Publications and Statistics The Commission collates industry statistics and other information to assist new market entrants with the basic information required to make commercial decisions. The data is also utilized by researchers, the media and other stakeholders.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Solomon Mburu <[1][email protected]> wrote:
Dear All, I'm also appreciative of the organizers of the 2009 KIGF. One thing I acknowledged is the exchange of views and ideas which shows how the issue of internet governance is an important tool in national development. The organizers did a commendable job altogether! Regards, Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [2][email protected] [3]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [4][email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at [5]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno .barrack%40gmail.com
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I was counted yesterday morning. And true, the questions are detailed, if used appropriately, then distribution of resources would be fair. One thing which I'd wish in such an undertaking, is making the individual's information accessible after, say, every nine years. I hope, if we have data protection law in place, then it will be prudent for such information to be made public. Overall, KBNS did a commendable job, especially in training the enumerators. On 27/08/2009, Akich Kwach <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
I have just been counted this morning and it is interesting there is much data to do with access to ICT . For example they ask whether you access internet from office or at home and frequency. Other ICT items such as TV, Land line, Computer, Radio (they ask whether you listen to radio - which does apply in my case, except if travel by Matatu). However there was no mention of mobile phone. In addition, they ask if the children uses computer, though not specific at school or home. As a reseacher, my view is if data is analysed well, it will be quite informative as far as "Access to ICT" accross the country is concerned.
Interestingly enough, the enumerator did not ask me about the contraversial "which tribe i belong to", I guess he picked it from the general responses. Others could share their experiences.
Akich Kwach
----- Original Message ----- From: "waudo siganga" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
Hello Hatari - I am in Mombasa attending a conference since yesterday. I waited for the enumerators to come to my house for 2 days but in vain so now I have no idea what went on during the census! Waudo
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:15 -0800, "Onyango Hatari" <[email protected]> wrote:
Waudo
I am still waiting for them to come and ask me that.
OH
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:43:53 +0300 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
I actually have not seen the actual form or the exact questions.
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:36 -0800, "Onyango Hatari" <[email protected]> wrote:
How will they do this? Ask someone if they use the internet?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:49:29 +0300 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
Hi Barrack - maybe you had walked out of the room briefly but it was stated that next week's national census will be gathering information about Internet usage in the country.
Kind Regards, Waudo
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:31 +0300, "Barrack Otieno" <[email protected]> wrote:
Many thanks to the organisers and facilitators for the great event, however i wasnt given a satisfactory answer regarding the following The state of digital divide in Kenya What the country is currently using the internet for. The number of internet users in the country at the moment. While i appreciate the fact that there are some statistics on the CCK website they are not up to date i wonder why this is the case, in the context of internet governance "how can you govern what you dont know?" (thinking globally acting locally) i am of the opinion though it is belated that some of this statistics could have been collected in the forthcoming census. Nonetheless i was impressed by the active participation by Hon Engineer Okundi and Hon Eng Rege, this is what leadership is all about, lest we forget my point i got this from the CCK website and i hope i will be answered Publications and Statistics The Commission collates industry statistics and other information to assist new market entrants with the basic information required to make commercial decisions. The data is also utilized by researchers, the media and other stakeholders.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Solomon Mburu <[1][email protected]> wrote:
Dear All, I'm also appreciative of the organizers of the 2009 KIGF. One thing I acknowledged is the exchange of views and ideas which shows how the issue of internet governance is an important tool in national development. The organizers did a commendable job altogether! Regards, Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [2][email protected] [3]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [4][email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at [5]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno .barrack%40gmail.com
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I concur with you guys, i perused through the questions and didn't mind them, i hope the data will be available on time On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Solomon Mburu <[email protected]> wrote:
I was counted yesterday morning. And true, the questions are detailed, if used appropriately, then distribution of resources would be fair. One thing which I'd wish in such an undertaking, is making the individual's information accessible after, say, every nine years. I hope, if we have data protection law in place, then it will be prudent for such information to be made public. Overall, KBNS did a commendable job, especially in training the enumerators.
On 27/08/2009, Akich Kwach <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
I have just been counted this morning and it is interesting there is much data to do with access to ICT . For example they ask whether you access internet from office or at home and frequency. Other ICT items such as TV, Land line, Computer, Radio (they ask whether you listen to radio - which does apply in my case, except if travel by Matatu). However there was no mention of mobile phone. In addition, they ask if the children uses computer, though not specific at school or home. As a reseacher, my view is if data is analysed well, it will be quite informative as far as "Access to ICT" accross the country is concerned.
Interestingly enough, the enumerator did not ask me about the contraversial "which tribe i belong to", I guess he picked it from the general responses. Others could share their experiences.
Akich Kwach
----- Original Message ----- From: "waudo siganga" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
Hello Hatari - I am in Mombasa attending a conference since yesterday. I waited for the enumerators to come to my house for 2 days but in vain so now I have no idea what went on during the census! Waudo
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:15 -0800, "Onyango Hatari" <[email protected]> wrote:
Waudo
I am still waiting for them to come and ask me that.
OH
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:43:53 +0300 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
I actually have not seen the actual form or the exact questions.
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:36 -0800, "Onyango Hatari" <[email protected]
wrote:
How will they do this? Ask someone if they use the internet?
> -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:49:29 +0300 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics > > Hi Barrack - maybe you had walked out of the room briefly but it > was stated that next week's national census will be gathering > information about Internet usage in the country. > > Kind Regards, > Waudo > > On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:31 +0300, "Barrack Otieno" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Many thanks to the organisers and facilitators for the great > event, however i wasnt given a satisfactory answer regarding > the following > The state of digital divide in Kenya > What the country is currently using the internet for. > The number of internet users in the country at the moment. > While i appreciate the fact that there are some statistics on > the CCK website they are not up to date i wonder why this is > the case, in the context of internet governance "how can you > govern what you dont know?" (thinking globally acting locally) > i am of the opinion though it is belated that some of this > statistics could have been collected in the forthcoming > census. > Nonetheless i was impressed by the active participation by Hon > Engineer Okundi and Hon Eng Rege, this is what leadership is > all about, lest we forget my point i got this from the CCK > website and i hope i will be answered > Publications and Statistics > The Commission collates industry statistics and other > information to assist new market entrants with the basic > information required to make commercial decisions. The data is > also utilized by researchers, the media and other > stakeholders. > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Solomon Mburu > <[1][email protected]> wrote: > > Dear All, > I'm also appreciative of the organizers of the 2009 KIGF. One > thing I acknowledged is the exchange of views and ideas which > shows how the issue of internet governance is an important > tool in national development. > The organizers did a commendable job altogether! > Regards, > Solomon Mburu > P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi > Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 > Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will > graze all the same way to the side of a hill! > AND > It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of > ambiguous generosity! > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > [2][email protected] > [3]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > This message was sent to: [4][email protected] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > [5]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno > .barrack%40gmail.com > > -- > Barrack O. Otieno > Administrative Manager > Afriregister Ltd (Ke) > P.o.Box 21682 > Nairobi 00100 > Tel: > +254721325277 > +254733206359 > Riara Road, Bamboo Lane > [6]www.afriregister.com > ICANN accredited registrar. > > References > > 1. mailto:[email protected] > 2. mailto:[email protected] > 3. http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > 4. mailto:[email protected] > 5. > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.... > 6. http://www.afriregister.com/
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Waudo I am still waiting for them to come and ask me that. OH
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:43:53 +0300 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
I actually have not seen the actual form or the exact questions.
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:36 -0800, "Onyango Hatari" <[email protected]> wrote:
How will they do this? Ask someone if they use the internet?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:49:29 +0300 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Meeting & Statistics
Hi Barrack - maybe you had walked out of the room briefly but it was stated that next week's national census will be gathering information about Internet usage in the country.
Kind Regards, Waudo
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:31 +0300, "Barrack Otieno" <[email protected]> wrote:
Many thanks to the organisers and facilitators for the great event, however i wasnt given a satisfactory answer regarding the following The state of digital divide in Kenya What the country is currently using the internet for. The number of internet users in the country at the moment. While i appreciate the fact that there are some statistics on the CCK website they are not up to date i wonder why this is the case, in the context of internet governance "how can you govern what you dont know?" (thinking globally acting locally) i am of the opinion though it is belated that some of this statistics could have been collected in the forthcoming census. Nonetheless i was impressed by the active participation by Hon Engineer Okundi and Hon Eng Rege, this is what leadership is all about, lest we forget my point i got this from the CCK website and i hope i will be answered Publications and Statistics The Commission collates industry statistics and other information to assist new market entrants with the basic information required to make commercial decisions. The data is also utilized by researchers, the media and other stakeholders.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Solomon Mburu <[1][email protected]> wrote:
Dear All, I'm also appreciative of the organizers of the 2009 KIGF. One thing I acknowledged is the exchange of views and ideas which shows how the issue of internet governance is an important tool in national development. The organizers did a commendable job altogether! Regards, Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [2][email protected] [3]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [4][email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at [5]http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno .barrack%40gmail.com
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Akich Kwach -
Barrack Otieno -
McTim -
Onyango Hatari -
Solomon Mburu -
waudo siganga