Re: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT on polls
Staying with this issue, kenya has the next big opportunity to anticipate inclusion of ICT in electoral process, this will be realized when the electoral body yet to be formed revises the electorate registers- which should include contacts such as mobile and emails. Further a mechanism to have those in the diaspora oncluded will epitomize our development in ICT. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2009, at 12:08 PM, "kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke
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1. Re: South Africa embraces ICT in polls (bitange@jambo.co.ke) 2. Re: South Africa embraces ICT in polls (Gakuru Alex) 3. Re: South Africa embraces ICT in polls (Solomon Mburu) 4. Re: South Africa embraces ICT in polls (Gakuru Alex) 5. Court jails Pirate Bay founders...Worlds most high profile file sharing website (alice)
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:09:17 +0300 (EAT) From: bitange@jambo.co.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls To: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina@madeinkenya.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Message-ID: <ed68a29c670ed4c654ab14de0670e33e.squirrel@mail.jambo.co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
Wainaina, Indeed we have made progress in this end. The Lands, Judiciary, Motor Vhicle, and Pension Dept registries are being prepared for digitization. It takes time to go through the procurement process and fighting resistance from staff. It is not all that easy as I once thought. We shall not give up though. Parliament has to pass the FOI for all the digitization to stimulate enterprise.
Regards
Ndemo.
A few years back at the Safaricom offices, President Kibaki tasked former Info & Comm Minister with implementing such "Digitization" in government. What ever happened to that?
**Is PS Ndemo still tasked with implementing digitization?
Regards, Wainaina
On 4/16/09, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well our census is up in a few months. Let's see if technology will be used to verify the truth of the collected data.
I believe in a system where everything works like it's supposed to, data from deaths, births, immigration (and whatever affects population size) can be used to update the population statistics, and a census only conducted in areas where there seems to be an abnormal population size change (small-scale census). Technology can go a long way into making this a reality. I believe the cost of maintaining the technology and doing small-scale census would be cheaper than doing an entire census every decade.
O_O
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From: John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> Subject: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls To: kiriinya2000@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 11:04 AM
Not sure if our next "Kivuitu" wants to hear things like below ;-)
walu. ~~~~~~ By CHARLES OMOND IPosted Thursday, April 16 2009 at 10:41
In Summary
As the rest of the continent dithers, use of information communication technology in South Africa's political processes has enabled thousands of its citizens overseas to vote, a whole week ahead of their home- based compatriots.
JOHANNESBURG, Thursday As the rest of Africa dithers, South Africa has moved fast to embrace information communication technology as part of its political processes. And as a result of the revolutionary move, thousands of eligible voters have already cast their ballots away from home and a whole week ahead of their home-based compatriots.
Rest of the story... http://www.nation.co.ke/News/africa/-/1066/560768/-/13ph0aiz/-/index.html
walu.
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:37:59 +0300 From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls To: bitange@jambo.co.ke Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Message-ID: <1981f3fd0904170837r681702c3w684930526a644a02@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:09 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
resistance from staff. ?It is not all that easy as I once thought. ? We shall not give up though. ?Parliament has to pass the FOI for all the digitization to stimulate enterprise.
The Media:
Please help in exposing more Civil Servants frustrating openness in government. How does FOI threaten their interests? Why is the Official Secrets Act their continued corruption cover-up. What corruption perpetuating networks and cartels exist? Tally which MPs declare their support for FOI if tabled in parliament today?
regards,
Alex
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Message: 3 Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:03:40 -0230 From: Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls To: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Message-ID: <98099ee50904170933j7df14631l7c7ae19e2e185480@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Dakitari, I believe no matter how much pressure and resistance is coming from some civil servants, they will have to give in, only when proper mechanisms and laws are put in place.
On 17/04/2009, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:09 PM, <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
resistance from staff. ?It is not all that easy as I once thought. ?We shall not give up though. ?Parliament has to pass the FOI for all the digitization to stimulate enterprise.
The Media:
Please help in exposing more Civil Servants frustrating openness in government. How does FOI threaten their interests? Why is the Official Secrets Act their continued corruption cover-up. What corruption perpetuating networks and cartels exist? Tally which MPs declare their support for FOI if tabled in parliament today?
regards,
Alex
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Message: 4 Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:37:36 +0300 From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls To: mwangi@wamae.com Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Message-ID: <1981f3fd0904170937m7816ee45m68e54d9a4a252f32@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Wasalaale! Please stop suspecting here's hard truth. Nowadays the 'real' money is in procurement. <http://www.ppoa.go.ke/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=47>. You recall the time all 3,000 were sacked some years back..
Since the Public Procurement and Disposal Act, 2005 came into effect. They changed tact and they put every hurdle in availing information that would enable open tendering. Most of the costly ads are for PR.. An example? One of them recently called me asking me to inform a group of SMEs I was lobbying they get government business, to go collect tender documents from their procurement department at 6 pm. The deadline for submission was 9 am the following morning. You get what I am saying? You don't suppose that person sat on that information 'by accident' all the while?
FOI would mean that anyone can go back and demand, for example, all communication, call logs etc that Civil Servant had prior to the tender award? Should pattern be established than impling that the law was broken, then that somebody would find themselves on the other side of the law. Just one example.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:16 PM, <mwangi@wamae.com> wrote:
Alex:
I suspect that civil servants are not anti the FOI per se, but afraid that digitization will lead to job cuts and, to be somewhat cynical, reduce their ability to exact "rents" from their jobs.
-Mwangi, Jhb Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:37:59 To: <mwangi.wamae@gmail.com> Cc: <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:09 PM, ?<bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
resistance from staff. ?It is not all that easy as I once thought. ?We shall not give up though. ?Parliament has to pass the FOI for all the digitization to stimulate enterprise.
The Media:
Please help in exposing more Civil Servants frustrating openness in government. How does FOI ?threaten their interests? Why is the Official Secrets Act their continued corruption cover-up. What corruption perpetuating networks and cartels exist? Tally which MPs declare their support for FOI if tabled in parliament today?
regards,
Alex
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Message: 5 Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:34:34 +0300 From: alice <alice@apc.org> Subject: [kictanet] Court jails Pirate Bay founders...Worlds most high profile file sharing website To: Kenya ICT Action Network - KICTANet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Message-ID: <49E9120A.7070005@apc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Coming to Kenya soon
---------------- Court jails Pirate Bay founders
Pirate Bay's Peter Sunde, speaking on his website: 'We cannot and wouldn't pay'
A court in Sweden has jailed four men behind The Pirate Bay (TPB), the world's most high-profile file-sharing website, in a landmark case.
Frederik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, Carl Lundstrom and Peter Sunde were found guilty of breaking copyright law and were sentenced to a year in jail.
They were also ordered to pay $4.5m (?3m) in damages.
Record companies welcomed the verdict but the men are to appeal and Sunde said they would refuse to pay the fine.
Speaking at an online press conference, he described the verdict as "bizarre".
"It's serious to actually be found guilty and get jail time. It's really serious. And that's a bit weird," Sunde said.
"It's so bizarre that we were convicted at all and it's even more bizarre that we were [convicted] as a team. The court said we were organised. I can't get Gottfrid out of bed in the morning. If you're going to convict us, convict us of disorganised crime.
"We can't pay and we wouldn't pay. Even if I had the money I would rather burn everything I owned, and I wouldn't even give them the ashes."
It is almost certain that The Pirate Bay will keep on sailing, long after today's court judgement
The damages were awarded to a number of entertainment companies, including Warner Bros, Sony Music Entertainment, EMI, and Columbia Pictures.
However, the total awarded fell short of the $17.5m in damages and interest the firms were seeking.
Speaking to the BBC, the chairman of industry body the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) John Kennedy said the verdict sent out a clear message.
"These guys weren't making a principled stand, they were out to line their own pockets. There was nothing meritorious about their behaviour, it was reprehensible.
"The Pirate Bay did immense harm and the damages awarded doesn't even get close to compensation, but we never claimed it did.
"There has been a perception that piracy is OK and that the music industry should just have to accept it. This verdict will change that," he said.
The Pirate Bay's first server is now a museum exhibit in Stockholm
The four men denied the charges throughout the trial, saying that because they did not actually host any files, they were not doing anything wrong.
Speaking on Swedish Radio, assistant judge Klarius explained how the court reached its findings.
"The court first tried whether there was any question of breach of copyright by the file-sharing application and that has been proved, that the offence was committed.
"The court then moved on to look at those who acted as a team to operate the Pirate Bay file-sharing service, and the court found that they knew that material which was protected by copyright but continued to operate the service," he said.
A lawyer for Carl Lundstrom, Per Samuelson, told journalists he was shocked by the guilty verdict and the severity of the sentence.
"That's outrageous, in my point of view. Of course we will appeal," he was quoted as saying by Reuters news agency. "This is the first word, not the last. The last word will be ours."
Political issue
Rickard Falkvinge, leader of The Pirate Party - which is trying to reform laws around copyright and patents in the digital age - told the BBC that the verdict was "a gross injustice".
"This wasn't a criminal trial, it was a political trial. It is just gross beyond description that you can jail four people for providing infrastructure.
Mark Mulligan from Forrester Research says what was different about Pirate Bay
"There is a lot of anger in Sweden right now. File-sharing is an institution here and while I can't encourage people to break copyright law, I'm not following it and I don't agree with it.
"Today's events make file-sharing a hot political issue and we're going to take this to the European Parliament."
The Pirate Bay is the world's most high profile file-sharing website and was set up in 2003 by anti-copyright organisation Piratbyran, but for the last five years it has been run by individuals.
Millions of files are exchanged using the service every day.
No copyright content is hosted on The Pirate Bay's web servers; instead the site hosts "torrent" links to TV, film and music files held on its users' computers.
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