Re: [kictanet] Your phone landing in the wrong hands could get you six months in jail

Whereas users are not blameless for non-registration of Sim cards, I think a higher burden must be placed on the MNOs to ensure only registered Sim cards are in use on their networks and more so, since they are the greatest beneficiaries of use of such Sim cards. The CA should ensure that other than issuing these notices, users are provided with a mechanism for ascertaining the registration status of their Sim cards and to correct the same information, considering they don't keep the information. This can be a simple SMS number that confirms the status of registration or a web interface. The MNOs likewise can ensure their systems don't connect unregistered Sims. And as such I agree with Washington that MNOs should be surcharged for the continued operation of unregistered Sims, if their profits are anything to go by. Victor On 6 Jan 2017 16:16, "Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Thank you Wash. There are roles for different stakeholders, not just the consumer. In addition to GG's questions another is the implied shifting of the burden of ensuring the origin, registration and safe use of SIM cards entirely to the consumer, to whom to the notice is addressed. And to echo Mildred, the realities of reporting lost items to the Police, let alone a SIM card should be known to the Regulator. The Regulator should be facilitating more consumer friendly mechanisms for reporting and recovery of lost/stolen SIM cards. Here is a copy of the notice. 2017-01-06 15:47 GMT+03:00 Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com>:
Thank you Grace.
“In case you lose of your SIM card, report to the nearest police station and demand an abstract."
My question is: could this reporting process be digitalized? Probably, hundreds, if not thousands, of SIM cards are lost every day all over the country. The option of reporting lost SIM cards via sms or online would be very welcomed.
Regards, Mildred Achoch.
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On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
" The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) Friday issued the stern warning, saying every Kenyan is responsible for any use of their mobile number in making calls, sending and receiving text messages as well as any financial transactions.
The regulator says all Kenyans must only use registered SIM cards to transact business as they may be culpable in the event that their number is used in the commission of a crime."
Full story here:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Six-month-jail-term-for-K enyans-whose-phones-are-used-in-crime/539546-3508084-k51vwl/index.html
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Part of the problem here is that rather than sell new numbers, some telcos recycle 'dead', inactive, 'expired' numbers and resell them to new users. if your line is inactive on some networks after 3 months, the line is up for sale. I personally have multiple phone lines. one of them happens to have been registered twice before to a man in the beginning, then a woman and then me. I walked into a branded dealers shop, bought the line, registered on the spot and went home. three years later, still getting texts that my line is unregistered and to go register. I have gone through that process twice now in two different shops. Data capture and retention for some of the operators is really wanting... the fact that the kamiti lines operate on all networks with no real challenge and continue to 'pester' Kenyans means that this is more of a PR exercise. secondly, some apps enable one operate independent of their number or phone.... i.e... I can load my whatsapp on one line, but if the phone is stolen , lost , misplaced and the sim card changed, the new user can retain the previous identity on some apps( which is why an option for remote wiping is recommended) But then again, most regulators are always behind the curve. On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Victor Kapiyo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Whereas users are not blameless for non-registration of Sim cards, I think a higher burden must be placed on the MNOs to ensure only registered Sim cards are in use on their networks and more so, since they are the greatest beneficiaries of use of such Sim cards. The CA should ensure that other than issuing these notices, users are provided with a mechanism for ascertaining the registration status of their Sim cards and to correct the same information, considering they don't keep the information. This can be a simple SMS number that confirms the status of registration or a web interface. The MNOs likewise can ensure their systems don't connect unregistered Sims. And as such I agree with Washington that MNOs should be surcharged for the continued operation of unregistered Sims, if their profits are anything to go by.
Victor
On 6 Jan 2017 16:16, "Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thank you Wash. There are roles for different stakeholders, not just the consumer. In addition to GG's questions another is the implied shifting of the burden of ensuring the origin, registration and safe use of SIM cards entirely to the consumer, to whom to the notice is addressed.
And to echo Mildred, the realities of reporting lost items to the Police, let alone a SIM card should be known to the Regulator. The Regulator should be facilitating more consumer friendly mechanisms for reporting and recovery of lost/stolen SIM cards.
Here is a copy of the notice.
2017-01-06 15:47 GMT+03:00 Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com>:
Thank you Grace.
“In case you lose of your SIM card, report to the nearest police station and demand an abstract."
My question is: could this reporting process be digitalized? Probably, hundreds, if not thousands, of SIM cards are lost every day all over the country. The option of reporting lost SIM cards via sms or online would be very welcomed.
Regards, Mildred Achoch.
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On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
" The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) Friday issued the stern warning, saying every Kenyan is responsible for any use of their mobile number in making calls, sending and receiving text messages as well as any financial transactions.
The regulator says all Kenyans must only use registered SIM cards to transact business as they may be culpable in the event that their number is used in the commission of a crime."
Full story here:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Six-month-jail-term-for-K enyans-whose-phones-are-used-in-crime/539546-3508084-k51vwl/index.html
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