"I freed a thousand slaves... I could have freed a thousand more, if only they knew they were slaves." - Harriet Tubman "Until they become conscious, they will never rebel, and until they have rebelled they cannot become conscious." - George Orwell. Facebook hacked people's minds and put them under a spell so powerful that they are completely impervious to reason. To defeat Facebook you have to focus on freeing minds. It's not a technology problem. I has never been. Brgds,Patrick. Patrick A. M. Maina[Cross-domain Innovator | Independent Public Policy Analyst - Indigenous Innovations] On Saturday, June 15, 2019, 1:03:07 AM GMT+3, Alice Munyua via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Still trying to understand perceptions of privacy/data protection. Here is a really interesting coverage of recent Facebook courtroom debates. Face book says they have worked very hard to build privacy into all their products, but once you share information with your friends “you have lost control over the information and it’s subsequent disclosures” Here is the article: https://theintercept.com/2019/06/14/facebook-privacy-policy-court/ Thanks Patrick, Ali, Barrack, Grace, Esther, Poncelet and others for your comments on the Mozilla privacy by default initiative. Very best regards Alice _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/pmaina2000%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

The issue here is that once you, for example, send a picture to a friend, that friend now has the picture. Even if you intended it to only go to that friend, you have no control over what s/he does with the picture. The same goes if you post a picture on Facebook, or Twitter, or even your own website. If someone downloads that image, you have no control over what they do with it. Even ephemeral apps or features, like Snapchat or Stories in Instagram or Facebook, even end to end encrypted Telegram or WhatsApp-all can be defeated by a recipient simply taking a screen shot of your image, without your knowledge, and you have no control, whatsoever, over that image. And neither does Facebook, or Twitter, or Telegram. That's what that phrase means. Does that make sense? On 6/14/19, 11:03 PM, "kictanet on behalf of Alice Munyua via kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+ebeleokobi=fb.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke on behalf of kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Still trying to understand perceptions of privacy/data protection. Here is a really interesting coverage of recent Facebook courtroom debates. Face book says they have worked very hard to build privacy into all their products, but once you share information with your friends “you have lost control over the information and it’s subsequent disclosures” Here is the article: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__theintercept.com_2019_06_14_facebook-2Dprivacy-2Dpolicy-2Dcourt_&d=DwIGaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=qU2Z_QHsOE8s7lfdCKT2TGxztEtklga74yuaR7yAk3k&s=tubaqtpX2NIUKVC3YB--lrSISSwtx2bcKKbsld2XOfY&e= Thanks Patrick, Ali, Barrack, Grace, Esther, Poncelet and others for your comments on the Mozilla privacy by default initiative. Very best regards Alice _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.kictanet.or.ke_mailman_listinfo_kictanet&d=DwIGaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=qU2Z_QHsOE8s7lfdCKT2TGxztEtklga74yuaR7yAk3k&s=PvVNja_gYrXPi9Gtnl1J412nRGtOhi2EWq0m6pYgYJY&e= Twitter: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__twitter.com_kictanet&d=DwIGaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=qU2Z_QHsOE8s7lfdCKT2TGxztEtklga74yuaR7yAk3k&s=796ICGuFNMzivYK7xb4FydvbhZTHxgJegsKWJaYZEx4&e= Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.kictanet.or.ke_mailman_options_kictanet_ebeleokobi-2540fb.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=qU2Z_QHsOE8s7lfdCKT2TGxztEtklga74yuaR7yAk3k&s=ETxfUNhjrw3FqZERG_t8XDe88CmQ8ifPm_EhcmLjQBI&e= The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

Alice Thanks. This is interesting. And a tidbit confusing even for me. The answer I believe is abit more complex. My sense:- 1. We must wean ourselves from senseless Social Media Consumption. This is a double-edged sword. It can be used for social good (The Arab Spring anyone? ) and evil (state-sponsored fake news etc) 2. Policy initiatives around Net Neutrality could be one policy tool. I don't believe for example that the Internet.org initiative by Facebook is good long term. We can, however, debate that. 3. More Activist Regulation like the one being championed by the European Union is something to consider. It's a shame really that 20 years+ on we don't have a Policy on Net Neutrality and how to deal with abuse of Market Dominance. One thing that gives me hope however is that we are discussing this. It is the beginning. It is never too late. Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 1:02 AM Alice Munyua via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Still trying to understand perceptions of privacy/data protection.

Here is a really interesting coverage of recent Facebook courtroom debates.

Face book says they have worked very hard to build privacy into all their products, but once you share information with your friends “you have lost control over the information and it’s subsequent disclosures”

Here is the article: https://theintercept.com/2019/06/14/facebook-privacy-policy-court/

Thanks Patrick, Ali, Barrack, Grace, Esther, Poncelet and others for your comments on the Mozilla privacy by default initiative.

Very best regards Alice

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