DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) tweeted at 6:23 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2018: #ARRESTED|Detectives from the Serious Crime Unit have Today afternoon arrested four young men who created a website similar to Uwezo Fund and using the name of the @FirstLadyKenya, defrauded applicants millions of shillings after they sent an application fee for loan processing. https://t.co/5GBi6ZkxPV (https://twitter.com/DCI_Kenya/status/1063452464446353408?s=03) Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download?s=13
I've been seeing such pictures released by DCI. How are they leaking pictures of people who have not been tried and convicted in a court of law? These people even if guilty can easily sue for defamation and have their cases dismissed costing taxpayers millions! #Musings Edwin Kiama Thoughts become things... choose the good ones! *-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------**Social Justice Entrepreneur, Human Rights Defender, * *#DevolutionIsRevolution Champion* *The Wanjiku Agenda Kenya Foundation (WAKenya)*Ordinary, fearless Kenyans. Sauti Ya Wanjiku Social Movement www.sautiyawanjiku.com https://www.facebook.com/wanjikurevolutionkenya https://twitter.com/WanjikuRevolt https://plus.google.com/u/1/+WanjikuMapinduzi/posts http://www.scribd.com/wmkenya "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." *~Margaret Mead* On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 11:55 AM Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) tweeted at 6:23 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2018: #ARRESTED|Detectives from the Serious Crime Unit have Today afternoon arrested four young men who created a website similar to Uwezo Fund and using the name of the @FirstLadyKenya, defrauded applicants millions of shillings after they sent an application fee for loan processing. https://t.co/5GBi6ZkxPV (https://twitter.com/DCI_Kenya/status/1063452464446353408?s=03)
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Mutemi I have a similar question on the countless posts by the DCI's official twitter handle on persons alleged to have commintted certain offences. On the one part we have the presumption of innocence until one is proven guilty and on the other there is the need to keep the public informed. The posts are likely to have a negative impact on a persons reputation. what is the DCI's policy on such? is there a protocol for removal of the post if I am found not to be guilty by a court of law? No court in Kenya has had the opportunity to determine on citizen's 'right to be forgotten' as other jurisdictions have. Ramadhan Salim Lawyer Sent from my iPhone
On 17 Nov 2018, at 18:30, Mutemi wa Kiama via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
I've been seeing such pictures released by DCI. How are they leaking pictures of people who have not been tried and convicted in a court of law? These people even if guilty can easily sue for defamation and have their cases dismissed costing taxpayers millions!
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On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 11:55 AM Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) tweeted at 6:23 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2018: #ARRESTED|Detectives from the Serious Crime Unit have Today afternoon arrested four young men who created a website similar to Uwezo Fund and using the name of the @FirstLadyKenya, defrauded applicants millions of shillings after they sent an application fee for loan processing. https://t.co/5GBi6ZkxPV (https://twitter.com/DCI_Kenya/status/1063452464446353408?s=03)
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Good conversations, DCI might be doing this innocently to show that they are working and also to deter potential criminals. The best way to resolve this is through Capacity building. Best Regards ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 11:48 Subject: [kictanet] Tweet from DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) To: <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Cc: Timothy- Coach- Oriedo <timoriedo@gmail.com> DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) tweeted at 6:23 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2018: #ARRESTED|Detectives from the Serious Crime Unit have Today afternoon arrested four young men who created a website similar to Uwezo Fund and using the name of the @FirstLadyKenya, defrauded applicants millions of shillings after they sent an application fee for loan processing. https://t.co/5GBi6ZkxPV (https://twitter.com/DCI_Kenya/status/1063452464446353408?s=03) Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download?s=13 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Domain Registration sponsored by www.eacdirectory.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Good morning, It’s not clear to me if the Kenyan law prohibits them from doing that. Regards, From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> On Behalf Of Barrack Otieno via kictanet Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 09:39 To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: Tweet from DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) Good conversations, DCI might be doing this innocently to show that they are working and also to deter potential criminals. The best way to resolve this is through Capacity building. Best Regards ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 11:48 Subject: [kictanet] Tweet from DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) To: <otieno.barrack@gmail.com <mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com> > Cc: Timothy- Coach- Oriedo <timoriedo@gmail.com <mailto:timoriedo@gmail.com> > DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) tweeted at 6:23 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2018: #ARRESTED|Detectives from the Serious Crime Unit have Today afternoon arrested four young men who created a website similar to Uwezo Fund and using the name of the @FirstLadyKenya, defrauded applicants millions of shillings after they sent an application fee for loan processing. https://t.co/5GBi6ZkxPV (https://twitter.com/DCI_Kenya/status/1063452464446353408?s=03) Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download?s=13 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Domain Registration sponsored by www.eacdirectory.co.ke <http://www.eacdirectory.co.ke> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Hi Alex, That is correct, this is also a common practice in other jurisdictions, maybe the data protection act will be a game changer. Regards On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:40 Alex Watila <awatila@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Good morning,
It’s not clear to me if the Kenyan law prohibits them from doing that.
Regards,
*From:* kictanet <kictanet-bounces+awatila= yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *On Behalf Of *Barrack Otieno via kictanet *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2018 09:39 *To:* awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *Subject:* [kictanet] Fwd: Tweet from DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya)
Good conversations, DCI might be doing this innocently to show that they are working and also to deter potential criminals. The best way to resolve this is through Capacity building.
Best Regards
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DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) tweeted at 6:23 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2018: #ARRESTED|Detectives from the Serious Crime Unit have Today afternoon arrested four young men who created a website similar to Uwezo Fund and using the name of the @FirstLadyKenya, defrauded applicants millions of shillings after they sent an application fee for loan processing. https://t.co/5GBi6ZkxPV (https://twitter.com/DCI_Kenya/status/1063452464446353408?s=03)
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Maybe a lawyer can advice. I know there's a procedure for releasing "most wanted" appeals. DCI began by posting picture of say "notorious laptop thief" who had been arrested with several gadgets and calling on members of public who had lost their devices to go and collect them. I suspect this was a ploy to get witnesses after arresting people with stolen goods but there being no complainant. When no one raised an issue on that which was itself unlawful they escalated to what we're witnessing now. regards, Edwin Kiama Thoughts become things... choose the good ones! May *-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------**Social Justice Entrepreneur, Human Rights Defender, * *#DevolutionIsRevolution Champion* *The Wanjiku Agenda Kenya Foundation (WAKenya)*Ordinary, fearless Kenyans. Sauti Ya Wanjiku Social Movement www.sautiyawanjiku.com https://www.facebook.com/wanjikurevolutionkenya https://twitter.com/WanjikuRevolt https://plus.google.com/u/1/+WanjikuMapinduzi/posts http://www.scribd.com/wmkenya "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." *~Margaret Mead* On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:42 AM Alex Watila via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good morning,
It’s not clear to me if the Kenyan law prohibits them from doing that.
Regards,
*From:* kictanet <kictanet-bounces+awatila= yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *On Behalf Of *Barrack Otieno via kictanet *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2018 09:39 *To:* awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *Subject:* [kictanet] Fwd: Tweet from DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya)
Good conversations, DCI might be doing this innocently to show that they are working and also to deter potential criminals. The best way to resolve this is through Capacity building.
Best Regards
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: *Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet* <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
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DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) tweeted at 6:23 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2018: #ARRESTED|Detectives from the Serious Crime Unit have Today afternoon arrested four young men who created a website similar to Uwezo Fund and using the name of the @FirstLadyKenya, defrauded applicants millions of shillings after they sent an application fee for loan processing. https://t.co/5GBi6ZkxPV (https://twitter.com/DCI_Kenya/status/1063452464446353408?s=03)
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Also, are those numbers verified? 350m in 4 days translates to 87m per day. if each person was paying 350 bob, it would mean close to 250k transactions a day. What medium did they use to advertise to reach the 250k users daily for 4 days (average) I could be wrong but i am doubting these numbers and if indeed the numbers are true, i would like to know how they were achieved. On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 9:53 AM WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
"....Hawa vijana wanne apo waliunda website fake ya Uwezo fund. Wakadanganya watu wanapeana loans ukiregister na 350. Guess what vijana walipata 350 million in 4 days....."
Such a post circulating accompanying the young men is evidence of sheer geniusness and heroism to the masses. Just like the heros of Betting windfalls. While a few consider them criminals - based on the vibangos they've been given to carry.
The loot may open UWEZO PLUS and run the original UWEZO mandate to support the mission.
Already there is a ready market - applicants, all who registered. Who might not have thought themselves suited for the other funding avenues or thought this sweeter.
What must not disappear is that the process has generated data on a client base which if you are in financial services is a profile of prospective customer. This they may sell now or hoard until the dust settles.
I dare to imagine this windfall (amount and magnitude of reach) might not even have been in their strategy calculator.
Everything indicates very good digital marketing, SEO etc. How many corporates wish even for an iota of such from their campaigns
#KeepReInspiringYouthfulGenious.
Be blessed. Regards/Wangari
On Nov 19, 2018 14:11, Mutemi wa Kiama via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Maybe a lawyer can advice. I know there's a procedure for releasing "most wanted" appeals. DCI began by posting picture of say "notorious laptop thief" who had been arrested with several gadgets and calling on members of public who had lost their devices to go and collect them. I suspect this was a ploy to get witnesses after arresting people with stolen goods but there being no complainant. When no one raised an issue on that which was itself unlawful they escalated to what we're witnessing now.
regards,
Edwin Kiama
Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
May
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:42 AM Alex Watila via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good morning,
It’s not clear to me if the Kenyan law prohibits them from doing that.
Regards,
*From:* kictanet <kictanet-bounces+awatila= yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *On Behalf Of *Barrack Otieno via kictanet *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2018 09:39 *To:* awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *Subject:* [kictanet] Fwd: Tweet from DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya)
Good conversations, DCI might be doing this innocently to show that they are working and also to deter potential criminals. The best way to resolve this is through Capacity building.
Best Regards
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: *Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet* <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 11:48 Subject: [kictanet] Tweet from DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) To: <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Cc: Timothy- Coach- Oriedo <timoriedo@gmail.com>
DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) tweeted at 6:23 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2018: #ARRESTED|Detectives from the Serious Crime Unit have Today afternoon arrested four young men who created a website similar to Uwezo Fund and using the name of the @FirstLadyKenya, defrauded applicants millions of shillings after they sent an application fee for loan processing. https://t.co/5GBi6ZkxPV (https://twitter.com/DCI_Kenya/status/1063452464446353408?s=03)
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I would argue that everyone has the right to privacy, which means that right not to have their communications, private or family affairs unnecessarily infringed. So the DPP should only make these posts out of necessity and I am sure that they can argue that they are necessary for public safety. Another concern however is the language used in the posts. It concludes that the suspects have committed the crimes and that their case is done. This goes against the notion of innocence till proven guilty. Considering that we do not have all sides of the story, perhaps DPP could be more cautious before parading suspects images and other personal details online? Il giorno mar 20 nov 2018 alle ore 10:09 Bernard Kioko via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> ha scritto:
Also, are those numbers verified? 350m in 4 days translates to 87m per day. if each person was paying 350 bob, it would mean close to 250k transactions a day. What medium did they use to advertise to reach the 250k users daily for 4 days (average)
I could be wrong but i am doubting these numbers and if indeed the numbers are true, i would like to know how they were achieved.
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 9:53 AM WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
"....Hawa vijana wanne apo waliunda website fake ya Uwezo fund. Wakadanganya watu wanapeana loans ukiregister na 350. Guess what vijana walipata 350 million in 4 days....."
Such a post circulating accompanying the young men is evidence of sheer geniusness and heroism to the masses. Just like the heros of Betting windfalls. While a few consider them criminals - based on the vibangos they've been given to carry.
The loot may open UWEZO PLUS and run the original UWEZO mandate to support the mission.
Already there is a ready market - applicants, all who registered. Who might not have thought themselves suited for the other funding avenues or thought this sweeter.
What must not disappear is that the process has generated data on a client base which if you are in financial services is a profile of prospective customer. This they may sell now or hoard until the dust settles.
I dare to imagine this windfall (amount and magnitude of reach) might not even have been in their strategy calculator.
Everything indicates very good digital marketing, SEO etc. How many corporates wish even for an iota of such from their campaigns
#KeepReInspiringYouthfulGenious.
Be blessed. Regards/Wangari
On Nov 19, 2018 14:11, Mutemi wa Kiama via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Maybe a lawyer can advice. I know there's a procedure for releasing "most wanted" appeals. DCI began by posting picture of say "notorious laptop thief" who had been arrested with several gadgets and calling on members of public who had lost their devices to go and collect them. I suspect this was a ploy to get witnesses after arresting people with stolen goods but there being no complainant. When no one raised an issue on that which was itself unlawful they escalated to what we're witnessing now.
regards,
Edwin Kiama
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:42 AM Alex Watila via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good morning,
It’s not clear to me if the Kenyan law prohibits them from doing that.
Regards,
*From:* kictanet <kictanet-bounces+awatila= yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *On Behalf Of *Barrack Otieno via kictanet *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2018 09:39 *To:* awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *Subject:* [kictanet] Fwd: Tweet from DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya)
Good conversations, DCI might be doing this innocently to show that they are working and also to deter potential criminals. The best way to resolve this is through Capacity building.
Best Regards
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: *Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet* < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 11:48 Subject: [kictanet] Tweet from DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) To: <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Cc: Timothy- Coach- Oriedo <timoriedo@gmail.com>
DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) tweeted at 6:23 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2018: #ARRESTED|Detectives from the Serious Crime Unit have Today afternoon arrested four young men who created a website similar to Uwezo Fund and using the name of the @FirstLadyKenya, defrauded applicants millions of shillings after they sent an application fee for loan processing. https://t.co/5GBi6ZkxPV (https://twitter.com/DCI_Kenya/status/1063452464446353408?s=03)
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According to @StarBreaking News, High Court has temporarily barred DCI from posting mugshots on social media.... https://twitter.com/TheStarBreaking/status/1072015832425869312 Il giorno mar 20 nov 2018 alle ore 14:25 Grace Bomu <nmutungu@gmail.com> ha scritto:
I would argue that everyone has the right to privacy, which means that right not to have their communications, private or family affairs unnecessarily infringed. So the DPP should only make these posts out of necessity and I am sure that they can argue that they are necessary for public safety. Another concern however is the language used in the posts. It concludes that the suspects have committed the crimes and that their case is done. This goes against the notion of innocence till proven guilty. Considering that we do not have all sides of the story, perhaps DPP could be more cautious before parading suspects images and other personal details online?
Il giorno mar 20 nov 2018 alle ore 10:09 Bernard Kioko via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> ha scritto:
Also, are those numbers verified? 350m in 4 days translates to 87m per day. if each person was paying 350 bob, it would mean close to 250k transactions a day. What medium did they use to advertise to reach the 250k users daily for 4 days (average)
I could be wrong but i am doubting these numbers and if indeed the numbers are true, i would like to know how they were achieved.
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 9:53 AM WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
"....Hawa vijana wanne apo waliunda website fake ya Uwezo fund. Wakadanganya watu wanapeana loans ukiregister na 350. Guess what vijana walipata 350 million in 4 days....."
Such a post circulating accompanying the young men is evidence of sheer geniusness and heroism to the masses. Just like the heros of Betting windfalls. While a few consider them criminals - based on the vibangos they've been given to carry.
The loot may open UWEZO PLUS and run the original UWEZO mandate to support the mission.
Already there is a ready market - applicants, all who registered. Who might not have thought themselves suited for the other funding avenues or thought this sweeter.
What must not disappear is that the process has generated data on a client base which if you are in financial services is a profile of prospective customer. This they may sell now or hoard until the dust settles.
I dare to imagine this windfall (amount and magnitude of reach) might not even have been in their strategy calculator.
Everything indicates very good digital marketing, SEO etc. How many corporates wish even for an iota of such from their campaigns
#KeepReInspiringYouthfulGenious.
Be blessed. Regards/Wangari
On Nov 19, 2018 14:11, Mutemi wa Kiama via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Maybe a lawyer can advice. I know there's a procedure for releasing "most wanted" appeals. DCI began by posting picture of say "notorious laptop thief" who had been arrested with several gadgets and calling on members of public who had lost their devices to go and collect them. I suspect this was a ploy to get witnesses after arresting people with stolen goods but there being no complainant. When no one raised an issue on that which was itself unlawful they escalated to what we're witnessing now.
regards,
Edwin Kiama
Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
May
*-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------**Social Justice Entrepreneur, Human Rights Defender, * *#DevolutionIsRevolution Champion*
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:42 AM Alex Watila via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good morning,
It’s not clear to me if the Kenyan law prohibits them from doing that.
Regards,
*From:* kictanet <kictanet-bounces+awatila= yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *On Behalf Of *Barrack Otieno via kictanet *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2018 09:39 *To:* awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *Subject:* [kictanet] Fwd: Tweet from DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya)
Good conversations, DCI might be doing this innocently to show that they are working and also to deter potential criminals. The best way to resolve this is through Capacity building.
Best Regards
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: *Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet* < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 11:48 Subject: [kictanet] Tweet from DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) To: <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Cc: Timothy- Coach- Oriedo <timoriedo@gmail.com>
DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) tweeted at 6:23 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2018: #ARRESTED|Detectives from the Serious Crime Unit have Today afternoon arrested four young men who created a website similar to Uwezo Fund and using the name of the @FirstLadyKenya, defrauded applicants millions of shillings after they sent an application fee for loan processing. https://t.co/5GBi6ZkxPV (https://twitter.com/DCI_Kenya/status/1063452464446353408?s=03)
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Am happy! Court stops police from posting photos of suspects on social media “That a conservatory order and be and is hereby issued restraining the Inspector of General Police and Director of Criminal Investigations from posting suspects and or accused person booking photographs and on the internet and social media and more and more specifically on the DCI Facebook and Twitter page pending the determination of the petition,” reads the court order. The matter is set to be mentioned on March 5, 2019. – *https://citizentv.co.ke/news/court-stops-police-from-posting-photos-of-suspe... <https://citizentv.co.ke/news/court-stops-police-from-posting-photos-of-suspects-on-social-media-222597/>* Warm regards, Edwin Kiama Thoughts become things... choose the good ones! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Social Innovator, Social Justice Entrepreneur, Catalyst, Human Rights Defender, Social Accountability Champion, Rhize Coach #DevolutionIsRevolution Champion The Wanjiku Agenda Kenya Foundation (WAKenya) Ordinary, Fearless Kenyans. Sauti Ya Wanjiku Social Movement www.sautiyawanjiku.com https://www.facebook.com/wanjikurevolutionkenya https://twitter.com/WanjikuRevolt https://plus.google.com/u/1/+WanjikuMapinduzi/posts http://www.scribd.com/wmkenya "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~Margaret Mead On Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 11:20 Grace Bomu via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote:
According to @StarBreaking News, High Court has temporarily barred DCI from posting mugshots on social media.... https://twitter.com/TheStarBreaking/status/1072015832425869312
Il giorno mar 20 nov 2018 alle ore 14:25 Grace Bomu <nmutungu@gmail.com> ha scritto:
I would argue that everyone has the right to privacy, which means that right not to have their communications, private or family affairs unnecessarily infringed. So the DPP should only make these posts out of necessity and I am sure that they can argue that they are necessary for public safety. Another concern however is the language used in the posts. It concludes that the suspects have committed the crimes and that their case is done. This goes against the notion of innocence till proven guilty. Considering that we do not have all sides of the story, perhaps DPP could be more cautious before parading suspects images and other personal details online?
Il giorno mar 20 nov 2018 alle ore 10:09 Bernard Kioko via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> ha scritto:
Also, are those numbers verified? 350m in 4 days translates to 87m per day. if each person was paying 350 bob, it would mean close to 250k transactions a day. What medium did they use to advertise to reach the 250k users daily for 4 days (average)
I could be wrong but i am doubting these numbers and if indeed the numbers are true, i would like to know how they were achieved.
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 9:53 AM WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
"....Hawa vijana wanne apo waliunda website fake ya Uwezo fund. Wakadanganya watu wanapeana loans ukiregister na 350. Guess what vijana walipata 350 million in 4 days....."
Such a post circulating accompanying the young men is evidence of sheer geniusness and heroism to the masses. Just like the heros of Betting windfalls. While a few consider them criminals - based on the vibangos they've been given to carry.
The loot may open UWEZO PLUS and run the original UWEZO mandate to support the mission.
Already there is a ready market - applicants, all who registered. Who might not have thought themselves suited for the other funding avenues or thought this sweeter.
What must not disappear is that the process has generated data on a client base which if you are in financial services is a profile of prospective customer. This they may sell now or hoard until the dust settles.
I dare to imagine this windfall (amount and magnitude of reach) might not even have been in their strategy calculator.
Everything indicates very good digital marketing, SEO etc. How many corporates wish even for an iota of such from their campaigns
#KeepReInspiringYouthfulGenious.
Be blessed. Regards/Wangari
On Nov 19, 2018 14:11, Mutemi wa Kiama via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Maybe a lawyer can advice. I know there's a procedure for releasing "most wanted" appeals. DCI began by posting picture of say "notorious laptop thief" who had been arrested with several gadgets and calling on members of public who had lost their devices to go and collect them. I suspect this was a ploy to get witnesses after arresting people with stolen goods but there being no complainant. When no one raised an issue on that which was itself unlawful they escalated to what we're witnessing now.
regards,
Edwin Kiama
Thoughts become things... choose the good ones!
May
*-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------**Social Justice Entrepreneur, Human Rights Defender, * *#DevolutionIsRevolution Champion*
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:42 AM Alex Watila via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good morning,
It’s not clear to me if the Kenyan law prohibits them from doing that.
Regards,
*From:* kictanet <kictanet-bounces+awatila= yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *On Behalf Of *Barrack Otieno via kictanet *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2018 09:39 *To:* awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *Subject:* [kictanet] Fwd: Tweet from DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya)
Good conversations, DCI might be doing this innocently to show that they are working and also to deter potential criminals. The best way to resolve this is through Capacity building.
Best Regards
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: *Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet* < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 11:48 Subject: [kictanet] Tweet from DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) To: <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Cc: Timothy- Coach- Oriedo <timoriedo@gmail.com>
DCI KENYA (@DCI_Kenya) tweeted at 6:23 pm on Fri, Nov 16, 2018: #ARRESTED|Detectives from the Serious Crime Unit have Today afternoon arrested four young men who created a website similar to Uwezo Fund and using the name of the @FirstLadyKenya, defrauded applicants millions of shillings after they sent an application fee for loan processing. https://t.co/5GBi6ZkxPV (https://twitter.com/DCI_Kenya/status/1063452464446353408?s=03)
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The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
participants (9)
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Alex Watila -
Barrack Otieno -
Bernard Kioko -
Grace Bomu -
Joash Moitui -
Mutemi wa Kiama -
ramadhan salim -
Timothy- Coach- Oriedo -
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