@Barrack, On point 1:-on multistakeholder involvement, CIC has set the most open procedure @ http://www.cickenya.org/bill_tracker - perhaps what remains is a mechanism where CIC can report back to the community on their revisions before the Bill goes to the AG and subsequently to Parliament. Regarding implementation - and here is where we will need the NGO-types to do the lobbying - otherwise nothing will move Parliament to prioritize this Bill. Unless Hon. Rege who is on this list takes it up as his project to conclude his current parliament season in style by ensuring the bill is enacted :-) On Point 2: International Implications for lack of a Data Protection bill? There are many, including ofcourse the obvious one that the BPO sector that largely deals with foreign data will continue to suffer its evident miscarriage.  No EU/US business are willing to trust a BPO operator with their data, knowing very well that it is exposed (legally, operationally and judiciously) in the absence of a comprehensive framework  that provides some assurance that their data is safe.  But perhaps more riskier is the fact that foreign hackers would find Kenya a safe haven for practising, executing and hiding their operations within our territory. And meanwhile, local operators (Telcos, Banks, Hospitals, Govt Agents, etc) will continue handling your personal data they way they deem fit. my two bits. walu. --- On Thu, 6/21/12, Barrack Otieno <[email protected]> wrote: From: Barrack Otieno <[email protected]> Subject: [kictanet] Kenya IGF Online Discussions Day 6 Freedom of Information and Data Protection Bills To: [email protected] Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, June 21, 2012, 10:41 AM Listers, Paul Kukubo posted this a couple of weeks ago on the list "AS I write this I am sitting in a forum organized by the ISACA Kenya Chapter to discuss these two draft  bills.  At this meeting we have a representative from CIC. The draft bills are on the CIC website.  Lister's should be made aware of this process which is important as part of the constitutional implementation. When the act is passed it will improve our profile as a destination for data processing.  As we speak there is a proposal in the EU law that would make it illegal for data to flow to countries that don't have data protection in place. This has several implications. Also, in a networked world, analysst indicate that the end game will be that there will be global centers of excellence in data processing. Indeed multinationals are consolidating data centres globally.  Submissions have been made by national council for law reporting, CIC, Kenya bankers association. Regards Paul Kukubo" Questions What needs to be done for the Freedom of Information and data protection bills to be implemented and how can stakeholders be involved in the process? Paul talks about the proposal in the EU law to make it illegal for data to flow to countries that don't have data protection in place what implications will this move have for our country and how can this be mitigated? The floor is open -- Barrack O. Otieno+254721325277+254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otienohttp://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.