To be or not to be a pseudonymous blogger
To me, such a move would be in direct contravention of article 31 (d) of the Constitution. Given that blogging in Kenya is taken to mean anyone with a social media account expressing their opinions, I think it's a slippery slope. Facebook tried to enforce a real name policy, I believe so did Google, and that didn't bode well. While I see why the government would want to take that approach (and could be argued with s 33(2)..), it is worrisome. And "clamping down" is a militant choice of words... Regards, Nanjira. Sent from my iPhone.
On 15 Mar 2016, at 02:33, kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote:
To be or not to be a pseudonymous blogger
Just a clarification- Facebook absolutely agrees that there should be spaces on the Internet where people can share anonymously, including some of our own properties, like Instagram. That said, Facebook itself is a space where community and trust depend upon people being able to connect with people they know, so Facebook community standards require people to use names they are known to use in "real" life. We do not proactively moderate for this, but fake accounts are definitely taken down if and when they are reported to us, and we include mechanisms for reporting fake names or accounts directly in the platform so that anyone on Facebook, whether or not the reporting person has an account, can report. Screen shot of report flow pasted below- [image1.PNG] Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315<tel:+44%20(0)%20771%20156%201315> 10 Brock Street | London<x-apple-data-detectors://0/1> | NW1 3FG ebeleokobi@fb.com<mailto:ebeleokobi@fb.com> [6F376569-CC77-422B-BAD3-794055B1E02B] On Mar 15, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: To me, such a move would be in direct contravention of article 31 (d) of the Constitution. Given that blogging in Kenya is taken to mean anyone with a social media account expressing their opinions, I think it's a slippery slope. Facebook tried to enforce a real name policy, I believe so did Google, and that didn't bode well. While I see why the government would want to take that approach (and could be argued with s 33(2)..), it is worrisome. And "clamping down" is a militant choice of words... Regards, Nanjira. Sent from my iPhone. On 15 Mar 2016, at 02:33, kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: To be or not to be a pseudonymous blogger _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.kictanet.or.ke_mailman_listinfo_kictanet&d=CwICAg&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=hGDusGRA7S0BjgW_3dUPNvt3SRBTkzMz6hqkLGwIxOE&s=h2vcUHi9wcEObI7fHD-WUfiooA0VAUwtv7ZuclaczCc&e= Unsubscribe or change your options at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.kictanet.or.ke_mailman_options_kictanet_ebeleokobi-2540fb.com&d=CwICAg&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=hGDusGRA7S0BjgW_3dUPNvt3SRBTkzMz6hqkLGwIxOE&s=qKjqXI8ZgGNvr03B1Eysh8SJj1xjjWLI1xBf7IaCSCg&e= The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Many thanks Ebele, I agree with Nanjira's postulation. Whereas Cabinet Secretary Mucheru's view point may be justified to a certain extent, it wouldn't be prudent since it will curtail the growth and developement of the Internet which has partly been driven by trust. My humble opinion is that if we take care of the Infrastructure issues such as natting, we don't need to worry about Pseudonym's. One way would be to encourage adoption of IP V 6 which avails an Internet Protocol address for every device which would in turn make it easy to trace sources of information. The government could also adopt an approach of educate users through Social Engineering. This is my opinion but i stand to be corrected. Best Regards On 3/15/16, Ebele Okobi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Just a clarification- Facebook absolutely agrees that there should be spaces on the Internet where people can share anonymously, including some of our own properties, like Instagram. That said, Facebook itself is a space where community and trust depend upon people being able to connect with people they know, so Facebook community standards require people to use names they are known to use in "real" life.
We do not proactively moderate for this, but fake accounts are definitely taken down if and when they are reported to us, and we include mechanisms for reporting fake names or accounts directly in the platform so that anyone on Facebook, whether or not the reporting person has an account, can report.
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On Mar 15, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
To me, such a move would be in direct contravention of article 31 (d) of the Constitution.
Given that blogging in Kenya is taken to mean anyone with a social media account expressing their opinions, I think it's a slippery slope. Facebook tried to enforce a real name policy, I believe so did Google, and that didn't bode well.
While I see why the government would want to take that approach (and could be argued with s 33(2)..), it is worrisome. And "clamping down" is a militant choice of words...
Regards, Nanjira.
Sent from my iPhone.
On 15 Mar 2016, at 02:33, kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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This is an interesting subject. I'm inclined to believe that the Good CS' comments may have been taken out of context. Ebele, thank you for your robust contributions to this forum. It certainly allows for most of us to engage with Facebook at a level unprecedented before. Truly appreciated. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 15 Mar 2016, at 1:49 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Many thanks Ebele,
I agree with Nanjira's postulation. Whereas Cabinet Secretary Mucheru's view point may be justified to a certain extent, it wouldn't be prudent since it will curtail the growth and developement of the Internet which has partly been driven by trust. My humble opinion is that if we take care of the Infrastructure issues such as natting, we don't need to worry about Pseudonym's. One way would be to encourage adoption of IP V 6 which avails an Internet Protocol address for every device which would in turn make it easy to trace sources of information. The government could also adopt an approach of educate users through Social Engineering. This is my opinion but i stand to be corrected.
Best Regards
On 3/15/16, Ebele Okobi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Just a clarification- Facebook absolutely agrees that there should be spaces on the Internet where people can share anonymously, including some of our own properties, like Instagram. That said, Facebook itself is a space where community and trust depend upon people being able to connect with people they know, so Facebook community standards require people to use names they are known to use in "real" life.
We do not proactively moderate for this, but fake accounts are definitely taken down if and when they are reported to us, and we include mechanisms for reporting fake names or accounts directly in the platform so that anyone on Facebook, whether or not the reporting person has an account, can report.
Screen shot of report flow pasted below- [image1.PNG]
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On Mar 15, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
To me, such a move would be in direct contravention of article 31 (d) of the Constitution.
Given that blogging in Kenya is taken to mean anyone with a social media account expressing their opinions, I think it's a slippery slope. Facebook tried to enforce a real name policy, I believe so did Google, and that didn't bode well.
While I see why the government would want to take that approach (and could be argued with s 33(2)..), it is worrisome. And "clamping down" is a militant choice of words...
Regards, Nanjira.
Sent from my iPhone.
On 15 Mar 2016, at 02:33, kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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[Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.png@01C8F888.8FCCE630] Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 2 Stephen St | London | W1T 1AN ebeleokobi@fb.com From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+ebeleokobi=fb.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+ebeleokobi=fb.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 12:08 PM To: Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi@fb.com<mailto:ebeleokobi@fb.com>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>>, Nanjira Sambuli <nanjira@ihub.co.ke<mailto:nanjira@ihub.co.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] To be or not to be a pseudonymous blogger This is an interesting subject. I'm inclined to believe that the Good CS' comments may have been taken out of context. Ebele, thank you for your robust contributions to this forum. It certainly allows for most of us to engage with Facebook at a level unprecedented before. Truly appreciated. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ke.linkedin.com_in_alihkassim&d=CwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=NevYKkYKmoHdTXRVl8cirUAqQVEhqZLTf03vicDeUrw&s=q3SQXPXrenv3gAFKX5JGmVJKaNcB8Bve4giId6t2rJw&e=> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad On 15 Mar 2016, at 1:49 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Many thanks Ebele, I agree with Nanjira's postulation. Whereas Cabinet Secretary Mucheru's view point may be justified to a certain extent, it wouldn't be prudent since it will curtail the growth and developement of the Internet which has partly been driven by trust. My humble opinion is that if we take care of the Infrastructure issues such as natting, we don't need to worry about Pseudonym's. One way would be to encourage adoption of IP V 6 which avails an Internet Protocol address for every device which would in turn make it easy to trace sources of information. The government could also adopt an approach of educate users through Social Engineering. This is my opinion but i stand to be corrected. Best Regards On 3/15/16, Ebele Okobi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Just a clarification- Facebook absolutely agrees that there should be spaces on the Internet where people can share anonymously, including some of our own properties, like Instagram. That said, Facebook itself is a space where community and trust depend upon people being able to connect with people they know, so Facebook community standards require people to use names they are known to use in "real" life. We do not proactively moderate for this, but fake accounts are definitely taken down if and when they are reported to us, and we include mechanisms for reporting fake names or accounts directly in the platform so that anyone on Facebook, whether or not the reporting person has an account, can report. Screen shot of report flow pasted below- [image1.PNG] Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315<tel:+44%20(0)%20771%20156%201315> 10 Brock Street | London<x-apple-data-detectors://0/1> | NW1 3FG ebeleokobi@fb.com<mailto:ebeleokobi@fb.com><mailto:ebeleokobi@fb.com> [6F376569-CC77-422B-BAD3-794055B1E02B] On Mar 15, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: To me, such a move would be in direct contravention of article 31 (d) of the Constitution. Given that blogging in Kenya is taken to mean anyone with a social media account expressing their opinions, I think it's a slippery slope. Facebook tried to enforce a real name policy, I believe so did Google, and that didn't bode well. While I see why the government would want to take that approach (and could be argued with s 33(2)..), it is worrisome. And "clamping down" is a militant choice of words... Regards, Nanjira. Sent from my iPhone. 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