Wardless registration & the diaspora
Hi, IEBC had initially indicated that we shall be able to register from any registration center and select ones preferred voting center, when I went to register I was informed that this was not the case and that the center where I register will be my polling station. If that is the case does it mean that the USA is now a part of Kenya and what is the name of the ward, constituency and county? The reason for not allowing wardless registration was a fear of manipulation of the data as it traveled across the wide area network (how do ATMs & the SWIFT system offer secure transactions?) The other reason is that it will allow for easier voter ferrying as they will only need to appear at the specific polling stations on election day, so isn't that the situation with the 4 M people in the diaspora? Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
Listers, The technology that has been procured should be able to provide for multi-centre registration as it was a core requirement of the system on their RFP. The issue is the staff have not had the proper training? If this the case then we will have another registration exercise for the 2018 elections and spend the billions on technology again whilst the cost should have been incremental for the next general elections. I am inclined here to give the IEBC the benefit but point out the there is training issue that can put right with an online video of how to, the equipment and the connectivity provided in these system. Our procurement regime on ICT related needs to be tuned to Be able to Handle uncertainty and innovative companies that are emerging with the right solutions. I am surprised the ICT board has not been part of such a big technology technology project that is able to provide key informations related to this. Best Regards, Best Regards, Baiju Shah Tele2media Ltd Telemedia Africa Ltd Tel. +254 701681570 email: baiju@tele2media.com On 25 Nov 2012, at 20:31, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi, IEBC had initially indicated that we shall be able to register from any registration center and select ones preferred voting center, when I went to register I was informed that this was not the case and that the center where I register will be my polling station. If that is the case does it mean that the USA is now a part of Kenya and what is the name of the ward, constituency and county? The reason for not allowing wardless registration was a fear of manipulation of the data as it traveled across the wide area network (how do ATMs & the SWIFT system offer secure transactions?) The other reason is that it will allow for easier voter ferrying as they will only need to appear at the specific polling stations on election day, so isn't that the situation with the 4 M people in the diaspora? Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/baiju%40tele2media.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
I think the main reason why the IEBC is preventing voters from registering at a certain location remotely is to prevent voter buying, a rampant practice in past elections. This can be especially the case in counties with 2 major clans or communities On Nov 25, 2012 9:26 PM, "Baiju Shah" <baiju@tele2media.com> wrote:
Listers,
The technology that has been procured should be able to provide for multi-centre registration as it was a core requirement of the system on their RFP. The issue is the staff have not had the proper training? If this the case then we will have another registration exercise for the 2018 elections and spend the billions on technology again whilst the cost should have been incremental for the next general elections.
I am inclined here to give the IEBC the benefit but point out the there is training issue that can put right with an online video of how to, the equipment and the connectivity provided in these system.
Our procurement regime on ICT related needs to be tuned to Be able to Handle uncertainty and innovative companies that are emerging with the right solutions.
I am surprised the ICT board has not been part of such a big technology technology project that is able to provide key informations related to this.
Best Regards,
Best Regards,
Baiju Shah Tele2media Ltd Telemedia Africa Ltd Tel. +254 701681570 email: baiju@tele2media.com
On 25 Nov 2012, at 20:31, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
IEBC had initially indicated that we shall be able to register from any registration center and select ones preferred voting center, when I went to register I was informed that this was not the case and that the center where I register will be my polling station.
If that is the case does it mean that the USA is now a part of Kenya and what is the name of the ward, constituency and county?
The reason for not allowing wardless registration was a fear of manipulation of the data as it traveled across the wide area network (how do ATMs & the SWIFT system offer secure transactions?)
The other reason is that it will allow for easier voter ferrying as they will only need to appear at the specific polling stations on election day, so isn't that the situation with the 4 M people in the diaspora?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
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Dennis, You still do not explain how the same cannot be done with voters in the diaspora who will be able to register to vote in any constituency of their choice while still sitting pretty in the USA. We are creating grounds for petitioning the results of the next election by having too many variables for a few equations. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2012, 23:33 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Wardless registration & the diaspora I think the main reason why the IEBC is preventing voters from registering at a certain location remotely is to prevent voter buying, a rampant practice in past elections. This can be especially the case in counties with 2 major clans or communities On Nov 25, 2012 9:26 PM, "Baiju Shah" <baiju@tele2media.com> wrote: Listers,
The technology that has been procured should be able to provide for multi-centre registration as it was a core requirement of the system on their RFP. The issue is the staff have not had the proper training? If this the case then we will have another registration exercise for the 2018 elections and spend the billions on technology again whilst the cost should have been incremental for the next general elections.
I am inclined here to give the IEBC the benefit but point out the there is training issue that can put right with an online video of how to, the equipment and the connectivity provided in these system.
Our procurement regime on ICT related needs to be tuned to Be able to Handle uncertainty and innovative companies that are emerging with the right solutions.
I am surprised the ICT board has not been part of such a big technology technology project that is able to provide key informations related to this.
Best Regards,
Best Regards,
Baiju Shah Tele2media Ltd Telemedia Africa Ltd Tel. +254 701681570 email: baiju@tele2media.com
On 25 Nov 2012, at 20:31, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
IEBC had initially indicated that we shall be able to register from any registration center and select ones preferred voting center, when I went to register I was informed that this was not the case and that the center where I register will be my polling station.
If that is the case does it mean that the USA is now a part of Kenya and what is the name of the ward, constituency and county?
The reason for not allowing wardless registration was a fear of manipulation of the data as it traveled across the wide area network (how do ATMs & the SWIFT system offer secure transactions?)
The other reason is that it will allow for easier voter ferrying as they will only need to appear at the specific polling stations on election day, so isn't that the situation with the 4 M people in the diaspora?
Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
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I thought Diaspora voters are only allowed to vote for the president, thus not needing a constituency? On Nov 26, 2012 8:29 AM, "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Dennis,
You still do not explain how the same cannot be done with voters in the diaspora who will be able to register to vote in any constituency of their choice while still sitting pretty in the USA.
We are creating grounds for petitioning the results of the next election by having too many variables for a few equations.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 November 2012, 23:33 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Wardless registration & the diaspora
I think the main reason why the IEBC is preventing voters from registering at a certain location remotely is to prevent voter buying, a rampant practice in past elections. This can be especially the case in counties with 2 major clans or communities On Nov 25, 2012 9:26 PM, "Baiju Shah" <baiju@tele2media.com> wrote:
Listers,
The technology that has been procured should be able to provide for multi-centre registration as it was a core requirement of the system on their RFP. The issue is the staff have not had the proper training? If this the case then we will have another registration exercise for the 2018 elections and spend the billions on technology again whilst the cost should have been incremental for the next general elections.
I am inclined here to give the IEBC the benefit but point out the there is training issue that can put right with an online video of how to, the equipment and the connectivity provided in these system.
Our procurement regime on ICT related needs to be tuned to Be able to Handle uncertainty and innovative companies that are emerging with the right solutions.
I am surprised the ICT board has not been part of such a big technology technology project that is able to provide key informations related to this.
Best Regards,
Best Regards,
Baiju Shah Tele2media Ltd Telemedia Africa Ltd Tel. +254 701681570 email: baiju@tele2media.com
On 25 Nov 2012, at 20:31, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
IEBC had initially indicated that we shall be able to register from any registration center and select ones preferred voting center, when I went to register I was informed that this was not the case and that the center where I register will be my polling station.
If that is the case does it mean that the USA is now a part of Kenya and what is the name of the ward, constituency and county?
The reason for not allowing wardless registration was a fear of manipulation of the data as it traveled across the wide area network (how do ATMs & the SWIFT system offer secure transactions?)
The other reason is that it will allow for easier voter ferrying as they will only need to appear at the specific polling stations on election day, so isn't that the situation with the 4 M people in the diaspora?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
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And are all these databases at the different wards being synced realtime everyday to a central database or can I go register at 20 different wards? and what is the database key? National ID no? Surname, fingerprints? On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
I thought Diaspora voters are only allowed to vote for the president, thus not needing a constituency? On Nov 26, 2012 8:29 AM, "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Dennis,
You still do not explain how the same cannot be done with voters in the diaspora who will be able to register to vote in any constituency of their choice while still sitting pretty in the USA.
We are creating grounds for petitioning the results of the next election by having too many variables for a few equations.
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ------------------------------ *From:* Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 November 2012, 23:33 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Wardless registration & the diaspora
I think the main reason why the IEBC is preventing voters from registering at a certain location remotely is to prevent voter buying, a rampant practice in past elections. This can be especially the case in counties with 2 major clans or communities On Nov 25, 2012 9:26 PM, "Baiju Shah" <baiju@tele2media.com> wrote:
Listers,
The technology that has been procured should be able to provide for multi-centre registration as it was a core requirement of the system on their RFP. The issue is the staff have not had the proper training? If this the case then we will have another registration exercise for the 2018 elections and spend the billions on technology again whilst the cost should have been incremental for the next general elections.
I am inclined here to give the IEBC the benefit but point out the there is training issue that can put right with an online video of how to, the equipment and the connectivity provided in these system.
Our procurement regime on ICT related needs to be tuned to Be able to Handle uncertainty and innovative companies that are emerging with the right solutions.
I am surprised the ICT board has not been part of such a big technology technology project that is able to provide key informations related to this.
Best Regards,
Best Regards,
Baiju Shah Tele2media Ltd Telemedia Africa Ltd Tel. +254 701681570 email: baiju@tele2media.com
On 25 Nov 2012, at 20:31, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
IEBC had initially indicated that we shall be able to register from any registration center and select ones preferred voting center, when I went to register I was informed that this was not the case and that the center where I register will be my polling station.
If that is the case does it mean that the USA is now a part of Kenya and what is the name of the ward, constituency and county?
The reason for not allowing wardless registration was a fear of manipulation of the data as it traveled across the wide area network (how do ATMs & the SWIFT system offer secure transactions?)
The other reason is that it will allow for easier voter ferrying as they will only need to appear at the specific polling stations on election day, so isn't that the situation with the 4 M people in the diaspora?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
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