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The current issue of The EastAfrican claims that the government submarine fiber project is to be transferred to the initial co-financiers : Safaricom, KDN, Jamii, amongst others. Will the eventual majority shareholders - essentially the private sector - operate the cable on Open Access principles? Specifically, the following questions arise. 1. Will the cable be open for direct connectivity (at the source in MSA) to other future telco players? 2. Will the price of connecting to the international fiber be driven by profit-motives or will it be based on the 'cost-of-operating-the-fiber' basis. 3. What modalities exist for future investors who may wish to own part of the fiber maybe 2 or 5years after the cable is operational- or will this thing be a closed-club to the original financiers once the cable becomes operational? (remember the consortium approach of EASSy?) 4. What are the steps involved in transparently transferring this public resource into private sector? just wondering... walu. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Hi John, On thing we mustn't forget is the two main driving principles behind the Open Access model, i.e. 1) Separating Ownership from Service and allowing participation/investment from non-operators 2) Ensuring competition through an open process that allow any operator/investor the opportunity to join On these points I would say that TEAMS has scored very high. Capacity can be purchased directly from TEAMS Ltd or at various wholesale and retail points from participating operators. Additionally competition is ensured because you have approximately 8 operators; Telkom, Safaricom, KDN, Wananchi, Access, Jamii, Gilat, Econet and France Telecom in the picture. All will need to find ways of offloading their bandwidth like a hot potato - which means that the price pressure will be downward. I give TEAMS the thumbs up - but maybe that's cos I'm biased ;-) Regards, B On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:07:19 -0700 (PDT), John Walubengo <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
The current issue of The EastAfrican claims that the government submarine fiber project is to be transferred to the initial co-financiers : Safaricom, KDN, Jamii, amongst others.
Will the eventual majority shareholders - essentially the private sector - operate the cable on Open Access principles? Specifically, the following questions arise.
1. Will the cable be open for direct connectivity (at the source in MSA) to other future telco players?
2. Will the price of connecting to the international fiber be driven by profit-motives or will it be based on the 'cost-of-operating-the-fiber' basis.
3. What modalities exist for future investors who may wish to own part of the fiber maybe 2 or 5years after the cable is operational- or will this thing be a closed-club to the original financiers once the cable becomes operational? (remember the consortium approach of EASSy?)
4. What are the steps involved in transparently transferring this public resource into private sector?
just wondering...
walu.
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Walu, like all other initiatives we have supported, KDN is seeing it as an enabler for the market and our approach is not profit driven (of course we want to recover the investment). There will be more than enough capacity on this cable as on Seacom, so fully redundant connectivity for the market will be the rule! Kai ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walubengo" <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 09:07 Subject: [kictanet] TEAMs to switch into Private Hands
The current issue of The EastAfrican claims that the government submarine fiber project is to be transferred to the initial co-financiers : Safaricom, KDN, Jamii, amongst others.
Will the eventual majority shareholders - essentially the private sector - operate the cable on Open Access principles? Specifically, the following questions arise.
1. Will the cable be open for direct connectivity (at the source in MSA) to other future telco players?
2. Will the price of connecting to the international fiber be driven by profit-motives or will it be based on the 'cost-of-operating-the-fiber' basis.
3. What modalities exist for future investors who may wish to own part of the fiber maybe 2 or 5years after the cable is operational- or will this thing be a closed-club to the original financiers once the cable becomes operational? (remember the consortium approach of EASSy?)
4. What are the steps involved in transparently transferring this public resource into private sector?
just wondering...
walu.
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Kai Is there any public analysis or research on actual bandwidth utilization by sector? i.e.. Agriculture vs say Banking? And web browsing vs. Infrastructure facilitation. Who is using what bandwidth and for what? As we promote outsourcing and ICT industries, the conversation will shift from bandwidth availability to its exploitation by the common mwananchi The ICT board is spending time in many forums explaining this exciting opportunity to ICT business and entrepreuners as it unfolds. We must spread the message that business and entreprenuers must be ready when the cable lands. Regards Paul Kukubo ICT Board Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Celtel Kenya -----Original Message----- From: "Kai Wulff" <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:09:27 To:pkukubo@ict.go.ke Cc:KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMs to switch into Private Hands Walu, like all other initiatives we have supported, KDN is seeing it as an enabler for the market and our approach is not profit driven (of course we want to recover the investment). There will be more than enough capacity on this cable as on Seacom, so fully redundant connectivity for the market will be the rule! Kai ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walubengo" <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 09:07 Subject: [kictanet] TEAMs to switch into Private Hands
The current issue of The EastAfrican claims that the government submarine fiber project is to be transferred to the initial co-financiers : Safaricom, KDN, Jamii, amongst others.
Will the eventual majority shareholders - essentially the private sector - operate the cable on Open Access principles? Specifically, the following questions arise.
1. Will the cable be open for direct connectivity (at the source in MSA) to other future telco players?
2. Will the price of connecting to the international fiber be driven by profit-motives or will it be based on the 'cost-of-operating-the-fiber' basis.
3. What modalities exist for future investors who may wish to own part of the fiber maybe 2 or 5years after the cable is operational- or will this thing be a closed-club to the original financiers once the cable becomes operational? (remember the consortium approach of EASSy?)
4. What are the steps involved in transparently transferring this public resource into private sector?
just wondering...
walu.
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Paul, I would submit that the ICT Board is better placed to do some of these sectorial studies with empirical basis to attract business and show resource allocation. Eric here On 17 Mar 2008, at 10:46, Paul Kukubo wrote:
Kai
Is there any public analysis or research on actual bandwidth utilization by sector? i.e.. Agriculture vs say Banking? And web browsing vs. Infrastructure facilitation.
Who is using what bandwidth and for what?
As we promote outsourcing and ICT industries, the conversation will shift from bandwidth availability to its exploitation by the common mwananchi
The ICT board is spending time in many forums explaining this exciting opportunity to ICT business and entrepreuners as it unfolds. We must spread the message that business and entreprenuers must be ready when the cable lands.
Regards
Paul Kukubo ICT Board Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Celtel Kenya
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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:09:27 To:pkukubo@ict.go.ke Cc:KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMs to switch into Private Hands
Walu,
like all other initiatives we have supported, KDN is seeing it as an enabler for the market and our approach is not profit driven (of course we want to recover the investment).
There will be more than enough capacity on this cable as on Seacom, so fully redundant connectivity for the market will be the rule!
Kai ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walubengo" <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 09:07 Subject: [kictanet] TEAMs to switch into Private Hands
The current issue of The EastAfrican claims that the government submarine fiber project is to be transferred to the initial co-financiers : Safaricom, KDN, Jamii, amongst others.
Will the eventual majority shareholders - essentially the private sector - operate the cable on Open Access principles? Specifically, the following questions arise.
1. Will the cable be open for direct connectivity (at the source in MSA) to other future telco players?
2. Will the price of connecting to the international fiber be driven by profit-motives or will it be based on the 'cost-of-operating-the-fiber' basis.
3. What modalities exist for future investors who may wish to own part of the fiber maybe 2 or 5years after the cable is operational- or will this thing be a closed-club to the original financiers once the cable becomes operational? (remember the consortium approach of EASSy?)
4. What are the steps involved in transparently transferring this public resource into private sector?
just wondering...
walu.
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Eric We shall partner where we can to ensure availability of information and knowledge that can assist ICT sector development. There are numerous bodies out there dealing with different aspects and initiatives concerning ICT. ICT is a very large and cross-cutting area. The board has responsibility specifically for developing and positioning Kenya as an ICT destination. This is in addition to bandwidth infrastructure capacity support under KTCIP. The Team at the Board will ensure that we are aware of these so that we do not duplicate. When we sense a glaring need or where stakeholders determine a need, we shall ensure we drive the research to get the knowledge. Just as an example of Initiatives that we are aware of. 1. The Export Promotion Council is working with Commonwealth Secretariate to develop a country strategy for the export of services. They have identified BPO as the sector with their highest growth potential. As part if this extensive work which has taken the better of 7 months, they have determined the market size in Kshs terms of different sub-sectors> BPO Exports in Kenya is USD 90 M. 2. The Ministry of Youth has just launched theYouth and ICT Action Plan for Kenya developed with assistance from Microsoft. 3. Novatech / EU- Proinvest ICT investment support for Africa (report on ict board website www.ict.go.ke). regards On 3/17/08, Eric Osiakwan <eric@afrispa.org> wrote:
Paul,
I would submit that the ICT Board is better placed to do some of these sectorial studies with empirical basis to attract business and show resource allocation.
Eric here
On 17 Mar 2008, at 10:46, Paul Kukubo wrote:
Kai
Is there any public analysis or research on actual bandwidth utilization by sector? i.e.. Agriculture vs say Banking? And web browsing vs. Infrastructure facilitation.
Who is using what bandwidth and for what?
As we promote outsourcing and ICT industries, the conversation will shift from bandwidth availability to its exploitation by the common mwananchi
The ICT board is spending time in many forums explaining this exciting opportunity to ICT business and entrepreuners as it unfolds. We must spread the message that business and entreprenuers must be ready when the cable lands.
Regards
Paul Kukubo ICT Board Sent from my BlackBerry(R) smartphone provided by Celtel Kenya
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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:09:27 To:pkukubo@ict.go.ke Cc:KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMs to switch into Private Hands
Walu,
like all other initiatives we have supported, KDN is seeing it as an enabler for the market and our approach is not profit driven (of course we want to
recover the investment).
There will be more than enough capacity on this cable as on Seacom, so fully redundant connectivity for the market will be the rule!
Kai ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walubengo" <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 09:07 Subject: [kictanet] TEAMs to switch into Private Hands
The current issue of The EastAfrican claims that the government submarine fiber project is to be transferred to the initial co-financiers : Safaricom, KDN, Jamii, amongst others.
Will the eventual majority shareholders - essentially the private sector - operate the cable on Open Access principles? Specifically, the following questions arise.
1. Will the cable be open for direct connectivity (at the source in MSA) to other future telco players?
2. Will the price of connecting to the international fiber be driven by profit-motives or will it be based on the 'cost-of-operating-the-fiber' basis.
3. What modalities exist for future investors who may wish to own part of the fiber maybe 2 or 5years after the cable is operational- or will this thing be a closed-club to the original financiers once the cable becomes operational? (remember the consortium approach of EASSy?)
4. What are the steps involved in transparently transferring this public resource into private sector?
just wondering...
walu.
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Not as far as I know. KDN is promoting more local content. We think the focus on purchased bandwidth is not the correct one. Producing locally relevant content will always be better and cheaper than even the biggest system! Why use Yahoo Mail if there is free mail locally (mail.butterfly.co.ke)? Kai ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Kukubo" <pkukubo@ict.go.ke> To: "Kai U. Wulff" <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke>; <kictanet-bounces+pkukubo=ict.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 10:46 Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMs to switch into Private Hands
Kai
Is there any public analysis or research on actual bandwidth utilization by sector? i.e.. Agriculture vs say Banking? And web browsing vs. Infrastructure facilitation.
Who is using what bandwidth and for what?
As we promote outsourcing and ICT industries, the conversation will shift from bandwidth availability to its exploitation by the common mwananchi
The ICT board is spending time in many forums explaining this exciting opportunity to ICT business and entrepreuners as it unfolds. We must spread the message that business and entreprenuers must be ready when the cable lands.
Regards
Paul Kukubo ICT Board Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Celtel Kenya
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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:09:27 To:pkukubo@ict.go.ke Cc:KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMs to switch into Private Hands
Walu,
like all other initiatives we have supported, KDN is seeing it as an enabler for the market and our approach is not profit driven (of course we want to recover the investment).
There will be more than enough capacity on this cable as on Seacom, so fully redundant connectivity for the market will be the rule!
Kai ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walubengo" <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: <kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 09:07 Subject: [kictanet] TEAMs to switch into Private Hands
The current issue of The EastAfrican claims that the government submarine fiber project is to be transferred to the initial co-financiers : Safaricom, KDN, Jamii, amongst others.
Will the eventual majority shareholders - essentially the private sector - operate the cable on Open Access principles? Specifically, the following questions arise.
1. Will the cable be open for direct connectivity (at the source in MSA) to other future telco players?
2. Will the price of connecting to the international fiber be driven by profit-motives or will it be based on the 'cost-of-operating-the-fiber' basis.
3. What modalities exist for future investors who may wish to own part of the fiber maybe 2 or 5years after the cable is operational- or will this thing be a closed-club to the original financiers once the cable becomes operational? (remember the consortium approach of EASSy?)
4. What are the steps involved in transparently transferring this public resource into private sector?
just wondering...
walu.
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Paul, et al, Paul Kukubo wrote:
Is there any public analysis or research on actual bandwidth utilization by sector? i.e.. Agriculture vs say Banking? And web browsing vs. Infrastructure facilitation.
Who is using what bandwidth and for what?
Probably not information in the public domain but with the operators and its not broken down by sector utilization. Instead, its broken down by protocol utilization - a default feature of the tools used to collect this type of traffic data. The potential quick overview would be between the R&E network vs. everyone else. This will establish what percentage of the overall bandwidth goes to commodity internet vs. private apps/networks. The current utilization patterns indicate that the internet usage is mainly at the corporate level, with no follow through of users to their respective residential places. This is likely to change in the future but at the moment meaningful and profitable Internet usage is only from 0800 - 1800 hrs. In this respect, residential access would be a key focus for most operators as it would help them resell the idle capacity from 1900hrs to 0800hrs the next day. BPO's can also make good use of this capacity. Attached is a sample graph taken 2 years ago. The main difference today is that the peak time traffic has grown over 100%. However, the off-peak is yet to record similar successes. Regards, Michuki.
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