Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 100, Issue 54
*Google/France Ruling -v- Twitter Politwoops* This particular case ties in with the revocation of Netherlands-based Open State Foundation (OSF) access to Twitter’s API in August 2015. In 2010, OSF created Politwoops, a tool to publish tweets deleted by politicians. As the tool gained traction spreading into over 30 countries, Twitter was under pressure from politicians to explain why their right of expression was being tampered with, seeing that deleting a tweet is a form of expressing what you want (or don’t want, as it were) to be known of you. Twitter explanation went something like: “No one user is more deserving of that ability [to delete a tweet] than another. Indeed, deleting a tweet is an expression of one’s voice.” OSF is arguing that Twitter’s reasoning and justification conflates political figures transparency with their privacy. The people they represent need to know what their officials think about, not just for one moment but also across time. In fact, judicial rulings have over time recognized this need and particularly hold that public officials do not receive the same treatment for privacy as man-on the street (or Twitter streets). The question then is, between the citizen’s right to information and public officials’s right to privacy, what comes first. The French/Google case might be a little different in that it combines both private and public citizens compared to Twitter’s private versus public. However, this points to a growing discomfort between privacy, freedom of expression and access to information. On 22 September 2015 at 04:36, <kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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1. Re: Here?s the Real Way to Get Internet to the Next 4 Billion People (Barrack Otieno) 2. Re: Here?s the Real Way to Get Internet to the Next 4 Billion People (Ali Hussein) 3. Fwd: [Internet Policy] France tells Google to remove search results globally, or face big fines (Barrack Otieno)
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>, Watila Alex < awatila@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:54:12 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Here’s the Real Way to Get Internet to the Next 4 Billion People Indeed Kivuva,
This practical example can feature on the East African Internet Governance Forum, now that it is happening in Uganda this week and being co-hosted by the Ministry of ICT.
Regards
On 21 September 2015 at 11:09, Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We established a social enterprise that is using internet technologies to improve livelihoods for communities in this post-conflict regions. This is mainly through making high speed broadband available to rural communities at low cost. So far we have been able to establish points-of-presence in the towns of Gulu, Lira, Soroti and Mbale - NGOs, corporates and individuals alike have been flocking to take up the broadband services after years of poor quality and expensive services from the mobile operators who sell mainly data bundles that have poor performance. We ride on Uganda's national optical fiber network (owned by the ministry of ICT's National IT Authority - NITA-U). and from Kampala interconnect with a variety of bulk providers (Seacom, Liquid Telecom, Simbanet, BCS) who are connected to submarine networks via Mombasa. Our service approach has greatly challenged the internet services paradigm and scored greatly with our subscribers, many of whom enjoy better services in these rural towns than their colleagues/counterparts in the capital Kampala.
Thank you very much Brian for the great work. This is quite interesting. There is an IGF 2015 track called "Policy Options for Connecting the Next Billion". I am not sure if you have heard about it.
The short writeup of the same reads like this: "Technological advancement in connectivity expanded broadband access and mobile penetration in recent years. Three billion people were connected to the Internet by the end of 2014. In spite of the progress achieved, more effort is necessary in order to connect the next billion and to address the digital divide. The identification of strategies to improve connectivity is timely due to the ongoing process of reviewing the outcomes of the World Summit of the Information Society (WSIS+10) and the discussion of the post-2015 Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). Collaboration between governmental and non-governmental actors is key to meet this challenge and the mutistakeholder nature of the IGF makes it a privileged space for discussion. "
What next: Your implementation is great and can form a great policy
for the IGF. We hope you are willing to contribute on the same. Local or regional IGF initiatives are encouraged to contribute on how "we can connect the next billion to the Internet". Here is the form created by
On 9/21/15, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: option the
IGF secretariat to collect feedback. We can then have it presented at the global IGF in Brazil later in November.
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio...
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio...
Here is the landing page:
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio...
Sincerely, ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>, Watila Alex < awatila@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 17:22:33 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Here’s the Real Way to Get Internet to the Next 4 Billion People Brian
Great stuff! Lots of initiatives out there. Great to see that some are actually working!
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
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On 21 Sep 2015, at 11:54 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Indeed Kivuva,
This practical example can feature on the East African Internet Governance Forum, now that it is happening in Uganda this week and being co-hosted by the Ministry of ICT.
Regards
On 9/21/15, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On 21 September 2015 at 11:09, Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We established a social enterprise that is using internet technologies to
improve livelihoods for communities in this post-conflict regions. This
is
mainly through making high speed broadband available to rural communities
at low cost. So far we have been able to establish points-of-presence in
the towns of Gulu, Lira, Soroti and Mbale - NGOs, corporates and
individuals alike have been flocking to take up the broadband services
after years of poor quality and expensive services from the mobile
operators who sell mainly data bundles that have poor performance. We
ride
on Uganda's national optical fiber network (owned by the ministry of
ICT's
National IT Authority - NITA-U). and from Kampala interconnect with a
variety of bulk providers (Seacom, Liquid Telecom, Simbanet, BCS) who are
connected to submarine networks via Mombasa. Our service approach has
greatly challenged the internet services paradigm and scored greatly with
our subscribers, many of whom enjoy better services in these rural towns
than their colleagues/counterparts in the capital Kampala.
Thank you very much Brian for the great work. This is quite interesting.
There is an IGF 2015 track called "Policy Options for Connecting the Next
Billion". I am not sure if you have heard about it.
The short writeup of the same reads like this: "Technological advancement
in connectivity expanded broadband access and mobile penetration in recent
years. Three billion people were connected to the Internet by the end of
2014. In spite of the progress achieved, more effort is necessary in order
to connect the next billion and to address the digital divide. The
identification of strategies to improve connectivity is timely due to the
ongoing process of reviewing the outcomes of the World Summit of the
Information Society (WSIS+10) and the discussion of the post-2015
Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). Collaboration between governmental
and non-governmental actors is key to meet this challenge and the
mutistakeholder nature of the IGF makes it a privileged space for
discussion. "
What next: Your implementation is great and can form a great policy option
for the IGF. We hope you are willing to contribute on the same. Local or
regional IGF initiatives are encouraged to contribute on how "we can
connect the next billion to the Internet". Here is the form created by the
IGF secretariat to collect feedback. We can then have it presented at the
global IGF in Brazil later in November.
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio...
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio...
Here is the landing page:
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio...
Sincerely,
______________________
Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on
higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 04:29:39 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [Internet Policy] France tells Google to remove search results globally, or face big fines Listers,
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(via Lauren Weinstein)
Does increasing geofencing threaten the integrity of the Internet?
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/09/france-confirms-that-google-must-...
Google's informal appeal against a French order to apply the so-called "right to be forgotten" to all of its global Internet services and domains, not just those in Europe, has been rejected. The president of the Commission Nationale de l'Informatique et des Libert?s (CNIL), France's data protection authority, gave a number of reasons for the rejection, including the fact that European orders to de-list information from search results could be easily circumvented if links were still available on Google's other domains.
-- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- -
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Moses Let me add my voice to the Twitter Politwoops issue. 1. If you aspire for Public Office then leave your privacy at the door as you enter the Public Office. There is a reason its called Public NOT Private. Of course common decency suggests that there are certain issues that should remain private. What those are is a matter for the Public (unfortunately to decide). As the saying goes: If you find at any one time that the kitchen is too hot feel free to exit. Then may be you should be allowed to permanently delete your tweets. Though even this I’m not so sure will be possible. The number of times tweets are retweeted and favourited even Twitter may find it difficult to unravel that thread. 2. There is a deliberate, sustained and concerted effort by Governments worldwide to curb Internet Freedoms. This should be viewed as another victory to the forces that are working hard to ensure the whole Internet Governance Structures that have brought us to so far with such dramatic results dies. All forward looking people need to work hard to ensure this doesnt happen. 3. In light of this you can imagine the repercussions in the online sphere if Google accepts France’s verdict. The country that gave us the rallying cry - Viva la Liberta! - is now a poster child for Government highhandedness on Internet Freedoms. How things change! Thanks & Regards Ali Hussein ali@hussein.me.ke +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: Abu-Jomo LinkedIn: http//ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com
On Sep 22, 2015, at 7:00 AM, Mose Karanja via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Google/France Ruling -v- Twitter Politwoops
This particular case ties in with the revocation of Netherlands-based Open State Foundation (OSF) access to Twitter’s API in August 2015.
In 2010, OSF created Politwoops, a tool to publish tweets deleted by politicians. As the tool gained traction spreading into over 30 countries, Twitter was under pressure from politicians to explain why their right of expression was being tampered with, seeing that deleting a tweet is a form of expressing what you want (or don’t want, as it were) to be known of you.
Twitter explanation went something like: “No one user is more deserving of that ability [to delete a tweet] than another. Indeed, deleting a tweet is an expression of one’s voice.”
OSF is arguing that Twitter’s reasoning and justification conflates political figures transparency with their privacy. The people they represent need to know what their officials think about, not just for one moment but also across time.
In fact, judicial rulings have over time recognized this need and particularly hold that public officials do not receive the same treatment for privacy as man-on the street (or Twitter streets).
The question then is, between the citizen’s right to information and public officials’s right to privacy, what comes first.
The French/Google case might be a little different in that it combines both private and public citizens compared to Twitter’s private versus public. However, this points to a growing discomfort between privacy, freedom of expression and access to information.
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1. Re: Here?s the Real Way to Get Internet to the Next 4 Billion People (Barrack Otieno) 2. Re: Here?s the Real Way to Get Internet to the Next 4 Billion People (Ali Hussein) 3. Fwd: [Internet Policy] France tells Google to remove search results globally, or face big fines (Barrack Otieno)
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com <mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Cc: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com <mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>>, Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:54:12 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Here’s the Real Way to Get Internet to the Next 4 Billion People Indeed Kivuva,
This practical example can feature on the East African Internet Governance Forum, now that it is happening in Uganda this week and being co-hosted by the Ministry of ICT.
Regards
On 9/21/15, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
On 21 September 2015 at 11:09, Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
We established a social enterprise that is using internet technologies to improve livelihoods for communities in this post-conflict regions. This is mainly through making high speed broadband available to rural communities at low cost. So far we have been able to establish points-of-presence in the towns of Gulu, Lira, Soroti and Mbale - NGOs, corporates and individuals alike have been flocking to take up the broadband services after years of poor quality and expensive services from the mobile operators who sell mainly data bundles that have poor performance. We ride on Uganda's national optical fiber network (owned by the ministry of ICT's National IT Authority - NITA-U). and from Kampala interconnect with a variety of bulk providers (Seacom, Liquid Telecom, Simbanet, BCS) who are connected to submarine networks via Mombasa. Our service approach has greatly challenged the internet services paradigm and scored greatly with our subscribers, many of whom enjoy better services in these rural towns than their colleagues/counterparts in the capital Kampala.
Thank you very much Brian for the great work. This is quite interesting. There is an IGF 2015 track called "Policy Options for Connecting the Next Billion". I am not sure if you have heard about it.
The short writeup of the same reads like this: "Technological advancement in connectivity expanded broadband access and mobile penetration in recent years. Three billion people were connected to the Internet by the end of 2014. In spite of the progress achieved, more effort is necessary in order to connect the next billion and to address the digital divide. The identification of strategies to improve connectivity is timely due to the ongoing process of reviewing the outcomes of the World Summit of the Information Society (WSIS+10) and the discussion of the post-2015 Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). Collaboration between governmental and non-governmental actors is key to meet this challenge and the mutistakeholder nature of the IGF makes it a privileged space for discussion. "
What next: Your implementation is great and can form a great policy option for the IGF. We hope you are willing to contribute on the same. Local or regional IGF initiatives are encouraged to contribute on how "we can connect the next billion to the Internet". Here is the form created by the IGF secretariat to collect feedback. We can then have it presented at the global IGF in Brazil later in November. http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio... <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billion/contributions>
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio... <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billion/contributions>
Here is the landing page: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio... <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billion>
Sincerely, ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ <http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/>
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke <mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Cc: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com <mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com>>, Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 17:22:33 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Here’s the Real Way to Get Internet to the Next 4 Billion People Brian
Great stuff! Lots of initiatives out there. Great to see that some are actually working!
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> Blog: www.alyhussein.com <http://www.alyhussein.com/>
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On 21 Sep 2015, at 11:54 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Indeed Kivuva,
This practical example can feature on the East African Internet Governance Forum, now that it is happening in Uganda this week and being co-hosted by the Ministry of ICT.
Regards
On 9/21/15, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
On 21 September 2015 at 11:09, Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
We established a social enterprise that is using internet technologies to improve livelihoods for communities in this post-conflict regions. This is mainly through making high speed broadband available to rural communities at low cost. So far we have been able to establish points-of-presence in the towns of Gulu, Lira, Soroti and Mbale - NGOs, corporates and individuals alike have been flocking to take up the broadband services after years of poor quality and expensive services from the mobile operators who sell mainly data bundles that have poor performance. We ride on Uganda's national optical fiber network (owned by the ministry of ICT's National IT Authority - NITA-U). and from Kampala interconnect with a variety of bulk providers (Seacom, Liquid Telecom, Simbanet, BCS) who are connected to submarine networks via Mombasa. Our service approach has greatly challenged the internet services paradigm and scored greatly with our subscribers, many of whom enjoy better services in these rural towns than their colleagues/counterparts in the capital Kampala.
Thank you very much Brian for the great work. This is quite interesting. There is an IGF 2015 track called "Policy Options for Connecting the Next Billion". I am not sure if you have heard about it.
The short writeup of the same reads like this: "Technological advancement in connectivity expanded broadband access and mobile penetration in recent years. Three billion people were connected to the Internet by the end of 2014. In spite of the progress achieved, more effort is necessary in order to connect the next billion and to address the digital divide. The identification of strategies to improve connectivity is timely due to the ongoing process of reviewing the outcomes of the World Summit of the Information Society (WSIS+10) and the discussion of the post-2015 Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). Collaboration between governmental and non-governmental actors is key to meet this challenge and the mutistakeholder nature of the IGF makes it a privileged space for discussion. "
What next: Your implementation is great and can form a great policy option for the IGF. We hope you are willing to contribute on the same. Local or regional IGF initiatives are encouraged to contribute on how "we can connect the next billion to the Internet". Here is the form created by the IGF secretariat to collect feedback. We can then have it presented at the global IGF in Brazil later in November. http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio... <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billion/contributions>
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio... <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billion/contributions>
Here is the landing page: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio... <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billion>
Sincerely, ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ <http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/>
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com <mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Cc: ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:isoc@lists.my.co.ke>> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 04:29:39 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [Internet Policy] France tells Google to remove search results globally, or face big fines Listers,
FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com <mailto:joly@punkcast.com>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:55:51 -0400 Subject: [Internet Policy] France tells Google to remove search results globally, or face big fines To: "internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org <mailto:internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org>" <InternetPolicy@elists.isoc.org <mailto:InternetPolicy@elists.isoc.org>>
(via Lauren Weinstein)
Does increasing geofencing threaten the integrity of the Internet?
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/09/france-confirms-that-google-must-... <http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/09/france-confirms-that-google-must-remove-search-results-globally-or-face-big-fines/>
Google's informal appeal against a French order to apply the so-called "right to be forgotten" to all of its global Internet services and domains, not just those in Europe, has been rejected. The president of the Commission Nationale de l'Informatique et des Libert?s (CNIL), France's data protection authority, gave a number of reasons for the rejection, including the fact that European orders to de-list information from search results could be easily circumvented if links were still available on Google's other domains.
-- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- -
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Ali, I agree, the drift towards controlled and closed Internet is stronger than ever. The French Parliament passed some 'Patriot Act' in May after the terror attacks. From a country known for liberty, as you rightly put, what chances do some closed regimes have on Internet freedom when 'in the interest of national security' is a government's slogan. Terror attacks are used to instil fear in citizens and their representatives who go ahead emotionally to enact laws and regulations that in hindsight are plain ugly. Just look at us last year December on Security (Amendments) Laws. There is a very close connection between security and internet freedom globally,at least from my perspective. I come from a security research background so probably I see everything from that angle :) Moses. On 22 September 2015 at 07:18, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Moses
Let me add my voice to the Twitter Politwoops issue.
1. If you aspire for Public Office then leave your privacy at the door as you enter the Public Office. There is a reason its called Public NOT Private. Of course common decency suggests that there are certain issues that should remain private. What those are is a matter for the Public (unfortunately to decide). As the saying goes: If you find at any one time that the kitchen is too hot feel free to exit. Then may be you should be allowed to permanently delete your tweets. Though even this I’m not so sure will be possible. The number of times tweets are retweeted and favourited even Twitter may find it difficult to unravel that thread.
2. There is a deliberate, sustained and concerted effort by Governments worldwide to curb Internet Freedoms. This should be viewed as another victory to the forces that are working hard to ensure the whole Internet Governance Structures that have brought us to so far with such dramatic results dies. All forward looking people need to work hard to ensure this doesnt happen.
3. In light of this you can imagine the repercussions in the online sphere if Google accepts France’s verdict. The country that gave us the rallying cry - Viva la Liberta! - is now a poster child for Government highhandedness on Internet Freedoms. How things change!
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On Sep 22, 2015, at 7:00 AM, Mose Karanja via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
*Google/France Ruling -v- Twitter Politwoops*
This particular case ties in with the revocation of Netherlands-based Open State Foundation (OSF) access to Twitter’s API in August 2015.
In 2010, OSF created Politwoops, a tool to publish tweets deleted by politicians. As the tool gained traction spreading into over 30 countries, Twitter was under pressure from politicians to explain why their right of expression was being tampered with, seeing that deleting a tweet is a form of expressing what you want (or don’t want, as it were) to be known of you.
Twitter explanation went something like: “No one user is more deserving of that ability [to delete a tweet] than another. Indeed, deleting a tweet is an expression of one’s voice.”
OSF is arguing that Twitter’s reasoning and justification conflates political figures transparency with their privacy. The people they represent need to know what their officials think about, not just for one moment but also across time.
In fact, judicial rulings have over time recognized this need and particularly hold that public officials do not receive the same treatment for privacy as man-on the street (or Twitter streets).
The question then is, between the citizen’s right to information and public officials’s right to privacy, what comes first.
The French/Google case might be a little different in that it combines both private and public citizens compared to Twitter’s private versus public. However, this points to a growing discomfort between privacy, freedom of expression and access to information.
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1. Re: Here?s the Real Way to Get Internet to the Next 4 Billion People (Barrack Otieno) 2. Re: Here?s the Real Way to Get Internet to the Next 4 Billion People (Ali Hussein) 3. Fwd: [Internet Policy] France tells Google to remove search results globally, or face big fines (Barrack Otieno)
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>, Watila Alex < awatila@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:54:12 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Here’s the Real Way to Get Internet to the Next 4 Billion People Indeed Kivuva,
This practical example can feature on the East African Internet Governance Forum, now that it is happening in Uganda this week and being co-hosted by the Ministry of ICT.
Regards
On 21 September 2015 at 11:09, Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We established a social enterprise that is using internet technologies to improve livelihoods for communities in this post-conflict regions. This is mainly through making high speed broadband available to rural communities at low cost. So far we have been able to establish points-of-presence in the towns of Gulu, Lira, Soroti and Mbale - NGOs, corporates and individuals alike have been flocking to take up the broadband services after years of poor quality and expensive services from the mobile operators who sell mainly data bundles that have poor performance. We ride on Uganda's national optical fiber network (owned by the ministry of ICT's National IT Authority - NITA-U). and from Kampala interconnect with a variety of bulk providers (Seacom, Liquid Telecom, Simbanet, BCS) who are connected to submarine networks via Mombasa. Our service approach has greatly challenged the internet services paradigm and scored greatly with our subscribers, many of whom enjoy better services in these rural towns than their colleagues/counterparts in the capital Kampala.
Thank you very much Brian for the great work. This is quite interesting. There is an IGF 2015 track called "Policy Options for Connecting the Next Billion". I am not sure if you have heard about it.
The short writeup of the same reads like this: "Technological advancement in connectivity expanded broadband access and mobile penetration in recent years. Three billion people were connected to the Internet by the end of 2014. In spite of the progress achieved, more effort is necessary in order to connect the next billion and to address the digital divide. The identification of strategies to improve connectivity is timely due to
ongoing process of reviewing the outcomes of the World Summit of the Information Society (WSIS+10) and the discussion of the post-2015 Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). Collaboration between governmental and non-governmental actors is key to meet this challenge and the mutistakeholder nature of the IGF makes it a privileged space for discussion. "
What next: Your implementation is great and can form a great policy
for the IGF. We hope you are willing to contribute on the same. Local or regional IGF initiatives are encouraged to contribute on how "we can connect the next billion to the Internet". Here is the form created by
IGF secretariat to collect feedback. We can then have it presented at
On 9/21/15, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: the option the the
global IGF in Brazil later in November.
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio...
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio...
Here is the landing page:
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio...
Sincerely, ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>, Watila Alex < awatila@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 17:22:33 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Here’s the Real Way to Get Internet to the Next 4 Billion People Brian
Great stuff! Lots of initiatives out there. Great to see that some are actually working!
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On 21 Sep 2015, at 11:54 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Indeed Kivuva,
This practical example can feature on the East African Internet Governance Forum, now that it is happening in Uganda this week and being co-hosted by the Ministry of ICT.
Regards
On 9/21/15, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
On 21 September 2015 at 11:09, Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
We established a social enterprise that is using internet technologies to
improve livelihoods for communities in this post-conflict regions. This
is
mainly through making high speed broadband available to rural communities
at low cost. So far we have been able to establish points-of-presence in
the towns of Gulu, Lira, Soroti and Mbale - NGOs, corporates and
individuals alike have been flocking to take up the broadband services
after years of poor quality and expensive services from the mobile
operators who sell mainly data bundles that have poor performance. We
ride
on Uganda's national optical fiber network (owned by the ministry of
ICT's
National IT Authority - NITA-U). and from Kampala interconnect with a
variety of bulk providers (Seacom, Liquid Telecom, Simbanet, BCS) who are
connected to submarine networks via Mombasa. Our service approach has
greatly challenged the internet services paradigm and scored greatly with
our subscribers, many of whom enjoy better services in these rural towns
than their colleagues/counterparts in the capital Kampala.
Thank you very much Brian for the great work. This is quite interesting.
There is an IGF 2015 track called "Policy Options for Connecting the Next
Billion". I am not sure if you have heard about it.
The short writeup of the same reads like this: "Technological advancement
in connectivity expanded broadband access and mobile penetration in recent
years. Three billion people were connected to the Internet by the end of
2014. In spite of the progress achieved, more effort is necessary in order
to connect the next billion and to address the digital divide. The
identification of strategies to improve connectivity is timely due to the
ongoing process of reviewing the outcomes of the World Summit of the
Information Society (WSIS+10) and the discussion of the post-2015
Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). Collaboration between governmental
and non-governmental actors is key to meet this challenge and the
mutistakeholder nature of the IGF makes it a privileged space for
discussion. "
What next: Your implementation is great and can form a great policy option
for the IGF. We hope you are willing to contribute on the same. Local or
regional IGF initiatives are encouraged to contribute on how "we can
connect the next billion to the Internet". Here is the form created by the
IGF secretariat to collect feedback. We can then have it presented at the
global IGF in Brazil later in November.
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio...
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio...
Here is the landing page:
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/policy-options-for-connection-the-next-billio...
Sincerely,
______________________
Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on
higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 04:29:39 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [Internet Policy] France tells Google to remove search results globally, or face big fines Listers,
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(via Lauren Weinstein)
Does increasing geofencing threaten the integrity of the Internet?
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/09/france-confirms-that-google-must-...
Google's informal appeal against a French order to apply the so-called "right to be forgotten" to all of its global Internet services and domains, not just those in Europe, has been rejected. The president of the Commission Nationale de l'Informatique et des Libert?s (CNIL), France's data protection authority, gave a number of reasons for the rejection, including the fact that European orders to de-list information from search results could be easily circumvented if links were still available on Google's other domains.
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