Amos, Very true. I have experienced that as well but mine was more on the supply chain side of things. We are geared more towards apps. Quite a hot walk especially if you have to bootstrap through the process.  Regards,  James Muendo, Managing Director, Logic Craft Ltd, Suite 39, 2nd Floor, Visions Plaza, Mombasa Road P.O. Box 28016 - 00200, T:| +254 725 567 508 | +254 720 100 547 S:| tim.rick Sent from Outlook Mobile _____________________________ From: nnfeischools via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] More support for springing startups To: James Muendo <james@muendo.co.ke> Cc: nnfeischools <nnfeischools@yahoo.com> Dear Amos Don't just give up try centum foundation. They support different types of local  start ups. Log to the web site and fill in an application Jane On Feb 2, 2016 21:47, Amos Ochieng via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Well I agree with the discussions so far but I find the startup ecosystem very biased toward tech startups. I am particularly concerned because I ran an early stage startup focused on marketing and communication services and most people I have talked to dont find it necessary to invest in us even after proof of concept and scalability. All of us cannot be programmers and innovators somebody has to offer the critical support services (strategy, branding, marketing etc) needed to take the innovations to market. So far I have found it practically very hard finding investors (angels and VCs) to put their expertise and resources in startups that are not purely tech.  Hopefully somebody can shed light on this On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 6:11 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: On Feb 2, 2016 1:14 PM, "James Muritu via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Registering a business in Kenya is a nightmare. I have used the new online platform(ecitizen) and there's nothing good to talk about it. Not only did I lose money after making several mpesa transactions, the system has no support process. A dark hole it is!  For fear of losing "broking" opportunities, my view is that the very people inside Sheria are sabotaging the system. We have a long way to go as a country.

Hi James, sometimes back, ICTA was crowdsourcing form the community on how they can make the ecitizen portal and othet e-government services more efficient and useful. Probably you can share your experience on the list. I'm sure the guys at ICTA will pick up the feedback, which will help improve the platform(s) further. Regards _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ochiengamos%40gmail.co... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- "You can just hang outside in the sun all day tossing a ball around... Or you can sit at your computer and do something that matters." - Cartman ____________________________________________________________________________