PSVs required to fit cameras, implement cashless payment, and fleet management systems
A new law to regulate the public transport has been put in place and will take effect by June 2014 where 1. All PSVs must implement cashless paymeny system for bus fare 2. All PSVs to be fit with fleet management systems where overspeeding will be checked from system logs, not on speed cameras 3. All PSVs to have surveillance cameras to reduce carjackings, petty crimes, and terrorism 4. Install digital speed governors This will see Beba Pay and Mpesa fight for supremacy. I'm keen to see what card Safaricom has on it's deck. This is a great opportunity for payment system innovators to comeup with exciting products, and also for fleet management system companies to have regular work. The commuters on the other hand will dig dipper in their pockets to pay for the services. And finally, the government has a way of collecting taxes on the Ksh 205 Billion industry http://mobile.nation.co.ke/business/New-law-on-technology-to-transform-PSV-s... -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
The hubris of those in power... Show me who will implement this and I'll tell you whether this will work... We better re-invent a few Michuki's! On a more fundamental level isn't forcing Kenyans to use a certain form of payment over others a violation of our rights to use The Kenyan Currency in our transactions? Can you deny a Kenyan a fundamental service such as transport if they presented to you valid legal tender in hard currency in Ksh? Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 5 Jan 2014 13:21, "Kivuva" <[email protected]> wrote:
A new law to regulate the public transport has been put in place and will take effect by June 2014 where 1. All PSVs must implement cashless paymeny system for bus fare 2. All PSVs to be fit with fleet management systems where overspeeding will be checked from system logs, not on speed cameras 3. All PSVs to have surveillance cameras to reduce carjackings, petty crimes, and terrorism 4. Install digital speed governors
This will see Beba Pay and Mpesa fight for supremacy. I'm keen to see what card Safaricom has on it's deck. This is a great opportunity for payment system innovators to comeup with exciting products, and also for fleet management system companies to have regular work. The commuters on the other hand will dig dipper in their pockets to pay for the services.
And finally, the government has a way of collecting taxes on the Ksh 205 Billion industry
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/business/New-law-on-technology-to-transform-PSV-s...
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
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smartbus tried cashless payments and they were always getting network errors. Is the required infrastructure in place and is it reliable enough to work all the time? regards, Alex On 01/05/2014 02:00 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote:
The hubris of those in power...
Show me who will implement this and I'll tell you whether this will work... We better re-invent a few Michuki's!
On a more fundamental level isn't forcing Kenyans to use a certain form of payment over others a violation of our rights to use The Kenyan Currency in our transactions?
Can you deny a Kenyan a fundamental service such as transport if they presented to you valid legal tender in hard currency in Ksh?
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io <http://www.A1.io>
On 5 Jan 2014 13:21, "Kivuva" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
A new law to regulate the public transport has been put in place and will take effect by June 2014 where 1. All PSVs must implement cashless paymeny system for bus fare 2. All PSVs to be fit with fleet management systems where overspeeding will be checked from system logs, not on speed cameras 3. All PSVs to have surveillance cameras to reduce carjackings, petty crimes, and terrorism 4. Install digital speed governors
This will see Beba Pay and Mpesa fight for supremacy. I'm keen to see what card Safaricom has on it's deck. This is a great opportunity for payment system innovators to comeup with exciting products, and also for fleet management system companies to have regular work. The commuters on the other hand will dig dipper in their pockets to pay for the services.
And finally, the government has a way of collecting taxes on the Ksh 205 Billion industry
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/business/New-law-on-technology-to-transform-PSV-s...
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh <http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> kenya.or.ke <http://kenya.or.ke> | The Kenya we know
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I totally agree with Mark. Public transport has and should always be looked at as a service of the government to the masses. Cameras and payment systems are just means of putting money into the pockets of a few companies or individuals and as such do not really help solve the problem. Think if the sector was run as a non profit (and in a sustainable manner) all would leave there cars at home and use the system. As we move forward think the thought of companies running the sector on commission of the government would also work. Auction off a licence 2-5 year to run the sector on behalf of the gov or counties with well laid out goals and guidelines as benchmarks. Off course infrastructure has to be put in place first like bus lanes everywhere, bus stops away from the main roads (thika rd and mombasa rd should not have bus stops) in short better planning. On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Watila Alex <[email protected]> wrote:
smartbus tried cashless payments and they were always getting network errors.
Is the required infrastructure in place and is it reliable enough to work all the time?
regards,
Alex
On 01/05/2014 02:00 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote:
The hubris of those in power...
Show me who will implement this and I'll tell you whether this will work... We better re-invent a few Michuki's!
On a more fundamental level isn't forcing Kenyans to use a certain form of payment over others a violation of our rights to use The Kenyan Currency in our transactions?
Can you deny a Kenyan a fundamental service such as transport if they presented to you valid legal tender in hard currency in Ksh?
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 5 Jan 2014 13:21, "Kivuva" <[email protected]> wrote:
A new law to regulate the public transport has been put in place and will take effect by June 2014 where 1. All PSVs must implement cashless paymeny system for bus fare 2. All PSVs to be fit with fleet management systems where overspeeding will be checked from system logs, not on speed cameras 3. All PSVs to have surveillance cameras to reduce carjackings, petty crimes, and terrorism 4. Install digital speed governors
This will see Beba Pay and Mpesa fight for supremacy. I'm keen to see what card Safaricom has on it's deck. This is a great opportunity for payment system innovators to comeup with exciting products, and also for fleet management system companies to have regular work. The commuters on the other hand will dig dipper in their pockets to pay for the services.
And finally, the government has a way of collecting taxes on the Ksh 205 Billion industry
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/business/New-law-on-technology-to-transform-PSV-s...
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
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I think it would be much easier to make it a crime, punishable only by imprisonment if someone was found without an ETR fare ticket. Passengers fear going to jail more than those car owners and their conductors. Sent from my iPad
On Jan 5, 2014, at 7:21 PM, kris njoroge <[email protected]> wrote:
I totally agree with Mark. Public transport has and should always be looked at as a service of the government to the masses. Cameras and payment systems are just means of putting money into the pockets of a few companies or individuals and as such do not really help solve the problem. Think if the sector was run as a non profit (and in a sustainable manner) all would leave there cars at home and use the system. As we move forward think the thought of companies running the sector on commission of the government would also work. Auction off a licence 2-5 year to run the sector on behalf of the gov or counties with well laid out goals and guidelines as benchmarks. Off course infrastructure has to be put in place first like bus lanes everywhere, bus stops away from the main roads (thika rd and mombasa rd should not have bus stops) in short better planning.
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Watila Alex <[email protected]> wrote: smartbus tried cashless payments and they were always getting network errors.
Is the required infrastructure in place and is it reliable enough to work all the time?
regards,
Alex
On 01/05/2014 02:00 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: The hubris of those in power...
Show me who will implement this and I'll tell you whether this will work... We better re-invent a few Michuki's!
On a more fundamental level isn't forcing Kenyans to use a certain form of payment over others a violation of our rights to use The Kenyan Currency in our transactions?
Can you deny a Kenyan a fundamental service such as transport if they presented to you valid legal tender in hard currency in Ksh?
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
On 5 Jan 2014 13:21, "Kivuva" <[email protected]> wrote: A new law to regulate the public transport has been put in place and will take effect by June 2014 where 1. All PSVs must implement cashless paymeny system for bus fare 2. All PSVs to be fit with fleet management systems where overspeeding will be checked from system logs, not on speed cameras 3. All PSVs to have surveillance cameras to reduce carjackings, petty crimes, and terrorism 4. Install digital speed governors
This will see Beba Pay and Mpesa fight for supremacy. I'm keen to see what card Safaricom has on it's deck. This is a great opportunity for payment system innovators to comeup with exciting products, and also for fleet management system companies to have regular work. The commuters on the other hand will dig dipper in their pockets to pay for the services.
And finally, the government has a way of collecting taxes on the Ksh 205 Billion industry
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/business/New-law-on-technology-to-transform-PSV-s...
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
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Digital Speed Governors aka Tachographs are a good idea. We could start with that, get matatus on regular timed schedules, then start selling electronic tickets for day, week & month, yearly. This you pay for using Mpesa etc, but spot fares should be in cash. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 5 Jan 2014 13:21, "Kivuva" <[email protected]> wrote:
A new law to regulate the public transport has been put in place and will take effect by June 2014 where 1. All PSVs must implement cashless paymeny system for bus fare 2. All PSVs to be fit with fleet management systems where overspeeding will be checked from system logs, not on speed cameras 3. All PSVs to have surveillance cameras to reduce carjackings, petty crimes, and terrorism 4. Install digital speed governors
This will see Beba Pay and Mpesa fight for supremacy. I'm keen to see what card Safaricom has on it's deck. This is a great opportunity for payment system innovators to comeup with exciting products, and also for fleet management system companies to have regular work. The commuters on the other hand will dig dipper in their pockets to pay for the services.
And finally, the government has a way of collecting taxes on the Ksh 205 Billion industry
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/business/New-law-on-technology-to-transform-PSV-s...
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I agree with the scheduling bit though i don't see how this can be divorced from the fares. I still insist transport should be primarily a govt affair. If not by ownership then by strict regulation inclusive of setting of fares, just like in Energy. if let loose we have the likes of Enron and our matatu culture as is. Some sectors cannot be left to market forces because market forces are largely an idyllic situation and manipulated to the core. On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <[email protected]> wrote:
Digital Speed Governors aka Tachographs are a good idea.
We could start with that, get matatus on regular timed schedules, then start selling electronic tickets for day, week & month, yearly. This you pay for using Mpesa etc, but spot fares should be in cash.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 5 Jan 2014 13:21, "Kivuva" <[email protected]> wrote:
A new law to regulate the public transport has been put in place and will take effect by June 2014 where 1. All PSVs must implement cashless paymeny system for bus fare 2. All PSVs to be fit with fleet management systems where overspeeding will be checked from system logs, not on speed cameras 3. All PSVs to have surveillance cameras to reduce carjackings, petty crimes, and terrorism 4. Install digital speed governors
This will see Beba Pay and Mpesa fight for supremacy. I'm keen to see what card Safaricom has on it's deck. This is a great opportunity for payment system innovators to comeup with exciting products, and also for fleet management system companies to have regular work. The commuters on the other hand will dig dipper in their pockets to pay for the services.
And finally, the government has a way of collecting taxes on the Ksh 205 Billion industry
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/business/New-law-on-technology-to-transform-PSV-s...
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
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