Re: [kictanet] Regulator drops plan to split up Safaricom
It would be great to get a response from CA right about now... *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Whenever you hear anyone close to the politburo in KE talk about "stakeholders", they almost without doubt mean KEPSA.
KEPSA represents every imaginable stakeholder, even the nonexistent.
Did you hear Matiang'i say the new curriculum was exhaustively discussed with "almost" all stakeholders? Parents have not been consulted. He meant KEPSA :-)
On 3 January 2018 at 13:54, Sidney Ochieng via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
"The CA has, however, defended the report, saying it was revised after wide consultations and input by all industry stakeholders."
Who was involved in this wide consultation? I didn't see any call for public participation on the CA website <http://ca.go.ke/index.php/ca-public-consultations>. I'm getting increasing frustrated reading about a report that everyone but me, and by extension the public, seems to have read. I would remind the CA that the frequencies these companies operate on belong to the public and are licensed on our behalf. We deserve to see these reports. Therefore I'm making the demand here and by email directly to the CA after this for:
1. The original report by Analysys Mason 2. This revised report 3. Details on when the "wide consultations" happened, who attended, what was discussed there and documentation of who made what comments.
This is not a matter of national security so these details need to be in the public domain. It's ridiculous that these things are still under wraps after all this time.
On 3 January 2018 at 13:28, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Is this headline misleading or what? :-)
A revised competition report by the telecommunications industry regulator has dropped the controversial proposal calling for the splitting of Safaricom into separate business units, drawing the ire of its rivals.
Airtel, Kenya’s second-biggest telecommunications company after Safaricom, hit out at the Communications Authority of Kenya (CA), saying failure to finalise the dominance debate and watering down of the report was hurting the smaller operators.
Read on:-
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Regu lator-drops-plan-to-split-up-Safaricom/4003102-4249652-11ic b6yz/index.html
I don't know about you but I personally would love to get a glimpse of this 'revised report'.
I hope someone from CA is listening and remembering that we have a right to that report..At least that's what the constitution tells us.. :-)
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/options/kictanet/sidney.ochieng%40gmail.com
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
-- Regards, Sidney
*Twitter:* @princelySid <https://twitter.com/princelySid> | *Web: *s idneyochieng.co.ke *Skype: *sidney.ochieng | *Github:* princelySid <https://github.com/princelySid>
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft."
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/options/kictanet/ali%40hussein.me.ke
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Dear Hussein, This is to inform all listers that CA is currently working on responses to matters that were raised here regarding the Competition Study and will share the same once done. Regards, Mark Okuttah. From: Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 7:32 AM To: Mark Okuttah <okuttah@ca.go.ke<mailto:okuttah@ca.go.ke>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Regulator drops plan to split up Safaricom It would be great to get a response from CA right about now... Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Whenever you hear anyone close to the politburo in KE talk about "stakeholders", they almost without doubt mean KEPSA. KEPSA represents every imaginable stakeholder, even the nonexistent. Did you hear Matiang'i say the new curriculum was exhaustively discussed with "almost" all stakeholders? Parents have not been consulted. He meant KEPSA :-) On 3 January 2018 at 13:54, Sidney Ochieng via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: "The CA has, however, defended the report, saying it was revised after wide consultations and input by all industry stakeholders." Who was involved in this wide consultation? I didn't see any call for public participation on the CA website<http://ca.go.ke/index.php/ca-public-consultations>. I'm getting increasing frustrated reading about a report that everyone but me, and by extension the public, seems to have read. I would remind the CA that the frequencies these companies operate on belong to the public and are licensed on our behalf. We deserve to see these reports. Therefore I'm making the demand here and by email directly to the CA after this for: 1. The original report by Analysys Mason 2. This revised report 3. Details on when the "wide consultations" happened, who attended, what was discussed there and documentation of who made what comments. This is not a matter of national security so these details need to be in the public domain. It's ridiculous that these things are still under wraps after all this time. On 3 January 2018 at 13:28, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Listers Is this headline misleading or what? :-) A revised competition report by the telecommunications industry regulator has dropped the controversial proposal calling for the splitting of Safaricom into separate business units, drawing the ire of its rivals. Airtel, Kenya’s second-biggest telecommunications company after Safaricom, hit out at the Communications Authority of Kenya (CA), saying failure to finalise the dominance debate and watering down of the report was hurting the smaller operators. Read on:- https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Regulator-drops-plan... I don't know about you but I personally would love to get a glimpse of this 'revised report'. I hope someone from CA is listening and remembering that we have a right to that report..At least that's what the constitution tells us.. :-) Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/sidney.ochieng%40gmail... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Regards, Sidney Twitter: @princelySid<https://twitter.com/princelySid> | Web: sidneyochieng.co.ke<http://sidneyochieng.co.ke/> Skype: sidney.ochieng | Github: princelySid<https://github.com/princelySid> _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ali%40hussein.me.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
What about the original study and the revised one. Can we get access to those? On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 9:10 AM Mark O. Okuttah via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Hussein,
This is to inform all listers that CA is currently working on responses to matters that were raised here regarding the Competition Study and will share the same once done.
Regards,
Mark Okuttah.
From: Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 7:32 AM To: Mark Okuttah <okuttah@ca.go.ke> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Regulator drops plan to split up Safaricom
It would be great to get a response from CA right about now...
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Whenever you hear anyone close to the politburo in KE talk about "stakeholders", they almost without doubt mean KEPSA.
KEPSA represents every imaginable stakeholder, even the nonexistent.
Did you hear Matiang'i say the new curriculum was exhaustively discussed with "almost" all stakeholders? Parents have not been consulted. He meant KEPSA :-)
On 3 January 2018 at 13:54, Sidney Ochieng via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
"The CA has, however, defended the report, saying it was revised after wide consultations and input by all industry stakeholders."
Who was involved in this wide consultation? I didn't see any call for public participation on the CA website <http://ca.go.ke/index.php/ca-public-consultations>. I'm getting increasing frustrated reading about a report that everyone but me, and by extension the public, seems to have read. I would remind the CA that the frequencies these companies operate on belong to the public and are licensed on our behalf. We deserve to see these reports. Therefore I'm making the demand here and by email directly to the CA after this for:
1. The original report by Analysys Mason 2. This revised report 3. Details on when the "wide consultations" happened, who attended, what was discussed there and documentation of who made what comments.
This is not a matter of national security so these details need to be in the public domain. It's ridiculous that these things are still under wraps after all this time.
On 3 January 2018 at 13:28, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Is this headline misleading or what? :-)
A revised competition report by the telecommunications industry regulator has dropped the controversial proposal calling for the splitting of Safaricom into separate business units, drawing the ire of its rivals.
Airtel, Kenya’s second-biggest telecommunications company after Safaricom, hit out at the Communications Authority of Kenya (CA), saying failure to finalise the dominance debate and watering down of the report was hurting the smaller operators.
Read on:-
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Regulator-drops-plan...
I don't know about you but I personally would love to get a glimpse of this 'revised report'.
I hope someone from CA is listening and remembering that we have a right to that report..At least that's what the constitution tells us.. :-)
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/sidney.ochieng%40gmail...
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
-- Regards, Sidney
* Twitter:* @princelySid <https://twitter.com/princelySid> | *Web: * sidneyochieng.co.ke *Skype: *sidney.ochieng | *Github:* princelySid <https://github.com/princelySid>
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft."
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ali%40hussein.me.ke
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/conradakunga%40gmail.c...
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Mark Thanks for your responses. As I was reading through the history of this saga I bumped into this story dated back in March 2017.. https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/Telco--competition-watchdogs-r... Abit of sensational journalism at play here? The CA should put these rumours and stories to rest by sharing with the community the original report and the revised one. *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Mark O. Okuttah <okuttah@ca.go.ke> wrote:
Dear Hussein,
This is to inform all listers that CA is currently working on responses to matters that were raised here regarding the Competition Study and will share the same once done.
Regards,
Mark Okuttah.
From: Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 7:32 AM To: Mark Okuttah <okuttah@ca.go.ke> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Regulator drops plan to split up Safaricom
It would be great to get a response from CA right about now...
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Whenever you hear anyone close to the politburo in KE talk about "stakeholders", they almost without doubt mean KEPSA.
KEPSA represents every imaginable stakeholder, even the nonexistent.
Did you hear Matiang'i say the new curriculum was exhaustively discussed with "almost" all stakeholders? Parents have not been consulted. He meant KEPSA :-)
On 3 January 2018 at 13:54, Sidney Ochieng via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
"The CA has, however, defended the report, saying it was revised after wide consultations and input by all industry stakeholders."
Who was involved in this wide consultation? I didn't see any call for public participation on the CA website <http://ca.go.ke/index.php/ca-public-consultations>. I'm getting increasing frustrated reading about a report that everyone but me, and by extension the public, seems to have read. I would remind the CA that the frequencies these companies operate on belong to the public and are licensed on our behalf. We deserve to see these reports. Therefore I'm making the demand here and by email directly to the CA after this for:
1. The original report by Analysys Mason 2. This revised report 3. Details on when the "wide consultations" happened, who attended, what was discussed there and documentation of who made what comments.
This is not a matter of national security so these details need to be in the public domain. It's ridiculous that these things are still under wraps after all this time.
On 3 January 2018 at 13:28, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Is this headline misleading or what? :-)
A revised competition report by the telecommunications industry regulator has dropped the controversial proposal calling for the splitting of Safaricom into separate business units, drawing the ire of its rivals.
Airtel, Kenya’s second-biggest telecommunications company after Safaricom, hit out at the Communications Authority of Kenya (CA), saying failure to finalise the dominance debate and watering down of the report was hurting the smaller operators.
Read on:-
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Regu lator-drops-plan-to-split-up-Safaricom/4003102-4249652-11icb 6yz/index.html
I don't know about you but I personally would love to get a glimpse of this 'revised report'.
I hope someone from CA is listening and remembering that we have a right to that report..At least that's what the constitution tells us.. :-)
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/options/kictanet/sidney.ochieng%40gmail.com
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
-- Regards, Sidney
* Twitter:* @princelySid <https://twitter.com/princelySid> | *Web: *s idneyochieng.co.ke *Skype: *sidney.ochieng | *Github:* princelySid <https://github.com/princelySid>
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft."
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/options/kictanet/ali%40hussein.me.ke
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Dear Listers, Kindly see the attached response by the Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) on the article appearing in the Business Daily on 3rd January 2018 titled: Regulator drops plan to split up Safaricom. Regards Mark Okuttah From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Date: Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 1:39 PM To: Mark Okuttah <okuttah@ca.go.ke<mailto:okuttah@ca.go.ke>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Regulator drops plan to split up Safaricom Mark Thanks for your responses. As I was reading through the history of this saga I bumped into this story dated back in March 2017.. https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/Telco--competition-watchdogs-r... Abit of sensational journalism at play here? The CA should put these rumours and stories to rest by sharing with the community the original report and the revised one. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Mark O. Okuttah <okuttah@ca.go.ke<mailto:okuttah@ca.go.ke>> wrote: Dear Hussein, This is to inform all listers that CA is currently working on responses to matters that were raised here regarding the Competition Study and will share the same once done. Regards, Mark Okuttah. From: Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 7:32 AM To: Mark Okuttah <okuttah@ca.go.ke<mailto:okuttah@ca.go.ke>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Regulator drops plan to split up Safaricom It would be great to get a response from CA right about now... Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Whenever you hear anyone close to the politburo in KE talk about "stakeholders", they almost without doubt mean KEPSA. KEPSA represents every imaginable stakeholder, even the nonexistent. Did you hear Matiang'i say the new curriculum was exhaustively discussed with "almost" all stakeholders? Parents have not been consulted. He meant KEPSA :-) On 3 January 2018 at 13:54, Sidney Ochieng via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: "The CA has, however, defended the report, saying it was revised after wide consultations and input by all industry stakeholders." Who was involved in this wide consultation? I didn't see any call for public participation on the CA website<http://ca.go.ke/index.php/ca-public-consultations>. I'm getting increasing frustrated reading about a report that everyone but me, and by extension the public, seems to have read. I would remind the CA that the frequencies these companies operate on belong to the public and are licensed on our behalf. We deserve to see these reports. Therefore I'm making the demand here and by email directly to the CA after this for: 1. The original report by Analysys Mason 2. This revised report 3. Details on when the "wide consultations" happened, who attended, what was discussed there and documentation of who made what comments. This is not a matter of national security so these details need to be in the public domain. It's ridiculous that these things are still under wraps after all this time. On 3 January 2018 at 13:28, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: Listers Is this headline misleading or what? :-) A revised competition report by the telecommunications industry regulator has dropped the controversial proposal calling for the splitting of Safaricom into separate business units, drawing the ire of its rivals. Airtel, Kenya’s second-biggest telecommunications company after Safaricom, hit out at the Communications Authority of Kenya (CA), saying failure to finalise the dominance debate and watering down of the report was hurting the smaller operators. Read on:- https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Regulator-drops-plan... I don't know about you but I personally would love to get a glimpse of this 'revised report'. I hope someone from CA is listening and remembering that we have a right to that report..At least that's what the constitution tells us.. :-) Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/sidney.ochieng%40gmail... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Regards, Sidney Twitter: @princelySid<https://twitter.com/princelySid> | Web: sidneyochieng.co.ke<http://sidneyochieng.co.ke/> Skype: sidney.ochieng | Github: princelySid<https://github.com/princelySid> _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ali%40hussein.me.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Hi Mark, Thanks for clarifying things. The response notes that key stakeholders are being engaged as the report is being worked on. I wonder who is representing the public in these, if there is any one how we're they chosen? If there isn't why is that? Is the public supposed to come in at the tail end of the process when every other stakeholder has had their input and the reports may have morphed several times? We are the main stakeholder here. In fact I'd go as far as say the only only one that matters. My original demands still stand. I want to see every version that exists of this report. You can redact the parts that give away competitive advantages(and let's not kid ourselves here, the only one with these is Safaricom). I will not accept just the abridged version you mention in this statement. Touched not typed, excuse typos On 4 Jan 2018 17:42, "Mark O. Okuttah via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers, Kindly see the attached response by the Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) on the article appearing in the Business Daily on 3rd January 2018 titled:* Regulator drops plan to split up Safaricom.*
Regards Mark Okuttah
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Date: Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 1:39 PM To: Mark Okuttah <okuttah@ca.go.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Regulator drops plan to split up Safaricom
Mark
Thanks for your responses. As I was reading through the history of this saga I bumped into this story dated back in March 2017..
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/Telco--competition- watchdogs-rule-out-Safaricom-split-option/539550-3850086- jjpmamz/index.html
Abit of sensational journalism at play here?
The CA should put these rumours and stories to rest by sharing with the community the original report and the revised one.
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Mark O. Okuttah <okuttah@ca.go.ke> wrote:
Dear Hussein,
This is to inform all listers that CA is currently working on responses to matters that were raised here regarding the Competition Study and will share the same once done.
Regards,
Mark Okuttah.
From: Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 7:32 AM To: Mark Okuttah <okuttah@ca.go.ke> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Regulator drops plan to split up Safaricom
It would be great to get a response from CA right about now...
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Whenever you hear anyone close to the politburo in KE talk about "stakeholders", they almost without doubt mean KEPSA.
KEPSA represents every imaginable stakeholder, even the nonexistent.
Did you hear Matiang'i say the new curriculum was exhaustively discussed with "almost" all stakeholders? Parents have not been consulted. He meant KEPSA :-)
On 3 January 2018 at 13:54, Sidney Ochieng via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
"The CA has, however, defended the report, saying it was revised after wide consultations and input by all industry stakeholders."
Who was involved in this wide consultation? I didn't see any call for public participation on the CA website <http://ca.go.ke/index.php/ca-public-consultations>. I'm getting increasing frustrated reading about a report that everyone but me, and by extension the public, seems to have read. I would remind the CA that the frequencies these companies operate on belong to the public and are licensed on our behalf. We deserve to see these reports. Therefore I'm making the demand here and by email directly to the CA after this for:
1. The original report by Analysys Mason 2. This revised report 3. Details on when the "wide consultations" happened, who attended, what was discussed there and documentation of who made what comments.
This is not a matter of national security so these details need to be in the public domain. It's ridiculous that these things are still under wraps after all this time.
On 3 January 2018 at 13:28, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
Is this headline misleading or what? :-)
A revised competition report by the telecommunications industry regulator has dropped the controversial proposal calling for the splitting of Safaricom into separate business units, drawing the ire of its rivals.
Airtel, Kenya’s second-biggest telecommunications company after Safaricom, hit out at the Communications Authority of Kenya (CA), saying failure to finalise the dominance debate and watering down of the report was hurting the smaller operators.
Read on:-
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Regu lator-drops-plan-to-split-up-Safaricom/4003102-4249652-11icb 6yz/index.html
I don't know about you but I personally would love to get a glimpse of this 'revised report'.
I hope someone from CA is listening and remembering that we have a right to that report..At least that's what the constitution tells us.. :-)
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
Chiromo Road, Westlands,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/options/kictanet/sidney.ochieng%40gmail.com
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
-- Regards, Sidney
* Twitter:* @princelySid <https://twitter.com/princelySid> | *Web: *s idneyochieng.co.ke *Skype: *sidney.ochieng | *Github:* princelySid <https://github.com/princelySid>
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft."
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/options/kictanet/ali%40hussein.me.ke
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/options/kictanet/sidney.ochieng%40gmail.com
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
participants (4)
-
Ali Hussein -
Mark O. Okuttah -
Rad! -
Sidney Ochieng