Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] [EANOG] The East Africa Internet Exchange Point-- Where are we?
As an internet user footing the bill through my wallet, I'm not only interested with the speed of access, but also the pricing. I think local content and peering will make more sense when ISPs start charging different (meaning cheaper) rates for traffic destined to local hosts. This will also spur growth of hosting infrastructure, growth of applications, and bring local content hosted abroad back home. This is the same model Safaricom uses for voice calls, with calls across networks charged a little bit higher than calls in Safaricom network. So if local data peering at KIXP is charged cheaper than international data, it will make a lot of sense. Charging the same to access Safaricom.com or orange.co.ke with yahoo.com or bbc.com is like KQ charging the same rates from Nairobi to Hethrow and Nairobi to Mombasa. I believe this is the model used by most Asian content's ISPs with the proliferation of local based online gaming. I believe experts of IXP like Brian Longwe and Michuki can attest to this. -- Lordmwesh On 23/07/2012, Stan Ngure <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Kyle, the demand is there.
The content is there in as much is doesn't compare to Japan or China.
In my organization we are trying to publish services within the EA region but the access experiences are as varied as peers of the ISPs. You always hope the client is using a 'good' ISP.
And we are just one company, in a few years it will be many. Why should ISP in EA first peer to Europe or SA for local destinations.
-----Original Message----- From: James <ndegwajim@yahoo.com> Sender: eanog-bounces@orion.my.co.ke Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:26:52 To: East Africa Network Operators Group<eanog@orion.my.co.ke> Reply-To: East Africa Network Operators Group <eanog@orion.my.co.ke> Cc: East Africa Network Operators Group<eanog@orion.my.co.ke>; skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [EANOG] The East Africa Internet Exchange Point-- Where are we?
_______________________________________________ eanog mailing list eanog@orion.my.co.ke http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/eanog
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
Hi Kivuva, I have often heard this idea and used to believe in it myself. However, charging different rates for access to different content would violate net neutrality and, in the long term, do more harm to the Internet ecosystem than good. Regards, Kyle Spencer On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
As an internet user footing the bill through my wallet, I'm not only interested with the speed of access, but also the pricing. I think local content and peering will make more sense when ISPs start charging different (meaning cheaper) rates for traffic destined to local hosts. This will also spur growth of hosting infrastructure, growth of applications, and bring local content hosted abroad back home. This is the same model Safaricom uses for voice calls, with calls across networks charged a little bit higher than calls in Safaricom network. So if local data peering at KIXP is charged cheaper than international data, it will make a lot of sense. Charging the same to access Safaricom.com or orange.co.ke with yahoo.com or bbc.com is like KQ charging the same rates from Nairobi to Hethrow and Nairobi to Mombasa. I believe this is the model used by most Asian content's ISPs with the proliferation of local based online gaming. I believe experts of IXP like Brian Longwe and Michuki can attest to this.
-- Lordmwesh
On 23/07/2012, Stan Ngure <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Kyle, the demand is there.
The content is there in as much is doesn't compare to Japan or China.
In my organization we are trying to publish services within the EA region but the access experiences are as varied as peers of the ISPs. You always hope the client is using a 'good' ISP.
And we are just one company, in a few years it will be many. Why should ISP in EA first peer to Europe or SA for local destinations.
-----Original Message----- From: James <ndegwajim@yahoo.com> Sender: eanog-bounces@orion.my.co.ke Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:26:52 To: East Africa Network Operators Group<eanog@orion.my.co.ke> Reply-To: East Africa Network Operators Group <eanog@orion.my.co.ke> Cc: East Africa Network Operators Group<eanog@orion.my.co.ke>; skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [EANOG] The East Africa Internet Exchange Point-- Where are we?
_______________________________________________ eanog mailing list eanog@orion.my.co.ke http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/eanog
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know _______________________________________________ eanog mailing list eanog@orion.my.co.ke http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/eanog
participants (2)
-
Kivuva -
Kyle Spencer