Update on ICT Practitioners Bill
Dear Listers, Apologies for cross-posting. As you may recall, pursuant to views expressed on this list, we submitted a memorandum to Parliament opposing the ICT Practitioners Bill on 8th July 2016. We teamed up with like minded stakeholders who were also opposed to the Bill to form a working team comprising of ourselves, the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA), the Technology Service Providers of Kenya (TESPOK) , Kenya Information Technology and Outsourcing Services (KITOS) , Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) and the iHub. The consortium was invited for a hearing before the National Assembly Committee on Energy and ICT on the 19th of July where a joint memorandum opposing the Bill was presented. The Committee, relying on Standing Order Number 140 advised on the procedure for withdrawal of a Bill, the gist of which is that the Bill can only be withdrawn by the sponsor. The committee therefore advised the consortium to consider the content of the Bill and propose amendments. The consortium presented proposals for amendment on several occasions. On 28th of July, they had the opportunity to listen to the sponsor, Hon Adan Duale as he addressed the Committee. He explained that the Bill had been borne out of a petition by a section of Kenyans who sought regulation the ICT sector practitioners. He also indicated that he was willing to incorporate stakeholder views. The consortium has attended stakeholders fora organised by the Ministry of ICT on the Bill and arrived at a common position that the Bill should be withdrawn. In view of the Committee's request for proposals for amendment of particular clauses in the Bill, stakeholders are meeting with the Ministry to discuss the same. It is worth noting that the Committee has extended the public participation period to allow for consensus building on the Bill. This is due to the contentions and opposition to the Bill by a significant number of stakeholders, including the Ministry and the Communications Authority. KICTANet representatives continue to engage in the process to ensure that our views are understood by the legislators. Together with other partners in the consortium, we are also exploring other avenues to resolve the impasse and are hopeful that Parliament will eventually see the sense in dropping this ill informed law. Regards Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
Thanks so much for this excellent update! From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+ebeleokobi=fb.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+ebeleokobi=fb.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:30 AM To: Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi@fb.com<mailto:ebeleokobi@fb.com>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Subject: [kictanet] Update on ICT Practitioners Bill Dear Listers, Apologies for cross-posting. As you may recall, pursuant to views expressed on this list, we submitted a memorandum to Parliament opposing the ICT Practitioners Bill on 8th July 2016. We teamed up with like minded stakeholders who were also opposed to the Bill to form a working team comprising of ourselves, the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA), the Technology Service Providers of Kenya (TESPOK) , Kenya Information Technology and Outsourcing Services (KITOS) , Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) and the iHub. The consortium was invited for a hearing before the National Assembly Committee on Energy and ICT on the 19th of July where a joint memorandum opposing the Bill was presented. The Committee, relying on Standing Order<file:///C:/Users/GRACE/Downloads/Standing_Orders_National_Assembly_1.pdf> Number 140 advised on the procedure for withdrawal of a Bill, the gist of which is that the Bill can only be withdrawn by the sponsor. The committee therefore advised the consortium to consider the content of the Bill and propose amendments. The consortium presented proposals for amendment on several occasions. On 28th of July, they had the opportunity to listen to the sponsor, Hon Adan Duale as he addressed the Committee. He explained that the Bill had been borne out of a petition by a section of Kenyans who sought regulation the ICT sector practitioners. He also indicated that he was willing to incorporate stakeholder views. The consortium has attended stakeholders fora organised by the Ministry of ICT on the Bill and arrived at a common position that the Bill should be withdrawn. In view of the Committee's request for proposals for amendment of particular clauses in the Bill, stakeholders are meeting with the Ministry to discuss the same. It is worth noting that the Committee has extended the public participation period to allow for consensus building on the Bill. This is due to the contentions and opposition to the Bill by a significant number of stakeholders, including the Ministry and the Communications Authority. KICTANet representatives continue to engage in the process to ensure that our views are understood by the legislators. Together with other partners in the consortium, we are also exploring other avenues to resolve the impasse and are hopeful that Parliament will eventually see the sense in dropping this ill informed law. Regards Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ke.linkedin.com_in_alihkassim&d=DQMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=RyCnmKnElmyFp5WWSWBatNBq_Dw3-DGiqUfOTTba1aA&s=jcddHs1Eitg5pSwnga5dQGm-ZrsWMuniIKZPBukrO2g&e=> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
Alex That's our end game. We have however quickly learnt to be pragmatic when we deal with the August House. :-) Parliamentary rules are Parliamentary rules.. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 17 Aug 2016, at 5:49 AM, Alex Watila via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
#killtheictbill
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On 17 Aug 2016 5:37 a.m., Ebele Okobi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Thanks so much for this excellent update!
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+ebeleokobi=fb.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:30 AM To: Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi@fb.com> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Update on ICT Practitioners Bill
Dear Listers,
Apologies for cross-posting.
As you may recall, pursuant to views expressed on this list, we submitted a memorandum to Parliament opposing the ICT Practitioners Bill on 8th July 2016. We teamed up with like minded stakeholders who were also opposed to the Bill to form a working team comprising of ourselves, the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA), the Technology Service Providers of Kenya (TESPOK) , Kenya Information Technology and Outsourcing Services (KITOS) , Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) and the iHub. The consortium was invited for a hearing before the National Assembly Committee on Energy and ICT on the 19th of July where a joint memorandum opposing the Bill was presented. The Committee, relying on Standing Order Number 140 advised on the procedure for withdrawal of a Bill, the gist of which is that the Bill can only be withdrawn by the sponsor. The committee therefore advised the consortium to consider the content of the Bill and propose amendments.
The consortium presented proposals for amendment on several occasions. On 28th of July, they had the opportunity to listen to the sponsor, Hon Adan Duale as he addressed the Committee. He explained that the Bill had been borne out of a petition by a section of Kenyans who sought regulation the ICT sector practitioners. He also indicated that he was willing to incorporate stakeholder views.
The consortium has attended stakeholders fora organised by the Ministry of ICT on the Bill and arrived at a common position that the Bill should be withdrawn. In view of the Committee's request for proposals for amendment of particular clauses in the Bill, stakeholders are meeting with the Ministry to discuss the same.
It is worth noting that the Committee has extended the public participation period to allow for consensus building on the Bill. This is due to the contentions and opposition to the Bill by a significant number of stakeholders, including the Ministry and the Communications Authority.
KICTANet representatives continue to engage in the process to ensure that our views are understood by the legislators. Together with other partners in the consortium, we are also exploring other avenues to resolve the impasse and are hopeful that Parliament will eventually see the sense in dropping this ill informed law.
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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Ali, This bill was sponsored by the Lead of the Majority, Duale, was it not? Have we reached out to him to have it pulled? On 17 August 2016 at 06:24, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Alex
That's our end game. We have however quickly learnt to be pragmatic when we deal with the August House. :-)
Parliamentary rules are Parliamentary rules..
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On 17 Aug 2016, at 5:49 AM, Alex Watila via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
#killtheictbill
Sent from Samsung tablet
On 17 Aug 2016 5:37 a.m., Ebele Okobi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thanks so much for this excellent update!
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+ebeleokobi=fb.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:30 AM To: Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi@fb.com> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Update on ICT Practitioners Bill
Dear Listers,
Apologies for cross-posting.
As you may recall, pursuant to views expressed on this list, we submitted a memorandum to Parliament opposing the ICT Practitioners Bill on 8th July 2016. We teamed up with like minded stakeholders who were also opposed to the Bill to form a working team comprising of ourselves, the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA), the Technology Service Providers of Kenya (TESPOK) , Kenya Information Technology and Outsourcing Services (KITOS) , Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) and the iHub. The consortium was invited for a hearing before the National Assembly Committee on Energy and ICT on the 19th of July where a joint memorandum opposing the Bill was presented. The Committee, relying on Standing Order Number 140 advised on the procedure for withdrawal of a Bill, the gist of which is that the Bill can only be withdrawn by the sponsor. The committee therefore advised the consortium to consider the content of the Bill and propose amendments.
The consortium presented proposals for amendment on several occasions. On 28th of July, they had the opportunity to listen to the sponsor, Hon Adan Duale as he addressed the Committee. He explained that the Bill had been borne out of a petition by a section of Kenyans who sought regulation the ICT sector practitioners. He also indicated that he was willing to incorporate stakeholder views.
The consortium has attended stakeholders fora organised by the Ministry of ICT on the Bill and arrived at a common position that the Bill should be withdrawn. In view of the Committee's request for proposals for amendment of particular clauses in the Bill, stakeholders are meeting with the Ministry to discuss the same.
It is worth noting that the Committee has extended the public participation period to allow for consensus building on the Bill. This is due to the contentions and opposition to the Bill by a significant number of stakeholders, including the Ministry and the Communications Authority.
KICTANet representatives continue to engage in the process to ensure that our views are understood by the legislators. Together with other partners in the consortium, we are also exploring other avenues to resolve the impasse and are hopeful that Parliament will eventually see the sense in dropping this ill informed law.
Regards
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ke.linkedin.com_in_alihkassim&d=DQMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=RyCnmKnElmyFp5WWSWBatNBq_Dw3-DGiqUfOTTba1aA&s=jcddHs1Eitg5pSwnga5dQGm-ZrsWMuniIKZPBukrO2g&e=>
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@Sidney We've gone through the full,gauntlet even meeting him with the committee..He is 'open' to dialogue... Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 17 Aug 2016, at 1:33 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Ali, This bill was sponsored by the Lead of the Majority, Duale, was it not? Have we reached out to him to have it pulled?
On 17 August 2016 at 06:24, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Alex
That's our end game. We have however quickly learnt to be pragmatic when we deal with the August House. :-)
Parliamentary rules are Parliamentary rules..
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
Sent from my iPad
On 17 Aug 2016, at 5:49 AM, Alex Watila via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
#killtheictbill
Sent from Samsung tablet
On 17 Aug 2016 5:37 a.m., Ebele Okobi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Thanks so much for this excellent update!
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+ebeleokobi=fb.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:30 AM To: Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi@fb.com> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Update on ICT Practitioners Bill
Dear Listers,
Apologies for cross-posting.
As you may recall, pursuant to views expressed on this list, we submitted a memorandum to Parliament opposing the ICT Practitioners Bill on 8th July 2016. We teamed up with like minded stakeholders who were also opposed to the Bill to form a working team comprising of ourselves, the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA), the Technology Service Providers of Kenya (TESPOK) , Kenya Information Technology and Outsourcing Services (KITOS) , Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) and the iHub. The consortium was invited for a hearing before the National Assembly Committee on Energy and ICT on the 19th of July where a joint memorandum opposing the Bill was presented. The Committee, relying on Standing Order Number 140 advised on the procedure for withdrawal of a Bill, the gist of which is that the Bill can only be withdrawn by the sponsor. The committee therefore advised the consortium to consider the content of the Bill and propose amendments.
The consortium presented proposals for amendment on several occasions. On 28th of July, they had the opportunity to listen to the sponsor, Hon Adan Duale as he addressed the Committee. He explained that the Bill had been borne out of a petition by a section of Kenyans who sought regulation the ICT sector practitioners. He also indicated that he was willing to incorporate stakeholder views.
The consortium has attended stakeholders fora organised by the Ministry of ICT on the Bill and arrived at a common position that the Bill should be withdrawn. In view of the Committee's request for proposals for amendment of particular clauses in the Bill, stakeholders are meeting with the Ministry to discuss the same.
It is worth noting that the Committee has extended the public participation period to allow for consensus building on the Bill. This is due to the contentions and opposition to the Bill by a significant number of stakeholders, including the Ministry and the Communications Authority.
KICTANet representatives continue to engage in the process to ensure that our views are understood by the legislators. Together with other partners in the consortium, we are also exploring other avenues to resolve the impasse and are hopeful that Parliament will eventually see the sense in dropping this ill informed law.
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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. . . . Kill Bill 3 (Kenyan Release) . . . . :) Mblayo On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Sidney
We've gone through the full,gauntlet even meeting him with the committee..He is 'open' to dialogue...
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On 17 Aug 2016, at 1:33 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Ali, This bill was sponsored by the Lead of the Majority, Duale, was it not? Have we reached out to him to have it pulled?
On 17 August 2016 at 06:24, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Alex
That's our end game. We have however quickly learnt to be pragmatic when we deal with the August House. :-)
Parliamentary rules are Parliamentary rules..
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
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On 17 Aug 2016, at 5:49 AM, Alex Watila via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
#killtheictbill
Sent from Samsung tablet
On 17 Aug 2016 5:37 a.m., Ebele Okobi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thanks so much for this excellent update!
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+ebeleokobi=fb.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:30 AM To: Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi@fb.com> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Update on ICT Practitioners Bill
Dear Listers,
Apologies for cross-posting.
As you may recall, pursuant to views expressed on this list, we submitted a memorandum to Parliament opposing the ICT Practitioners Bill on 8th July 2016. We teamed up with like minded stakeholders who were also opposed to the Bill to form a working team comprising of ourselves, the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA), the Technology Service Providers of Kenya (TESPOK) , Kenya Information Technology and Outsourcing Services (KITOS) , Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) and the iHub. The consortium was invited for a hearing before the National Assembly Committee on Energy and ICT on the 19th of July where a joint memorandum opposing the Bill was presented. The Committee, relying on Standing Order Number 140 advised on the procedure for withdrawal of a Bill, the gist of which is that the Bill can only be withdrawn by the sponsor. The committee therefore advised the consortium to consider the content of the Bill and propose amendments.
The consortium presented proposals for amendment on several occasions. On 28th of July, they had the opportunity to listen to the sponsor, Hon Adan Duale as he addressed the Committee. He explained that the Bill had been borne out of a petition by a section of Kenyans who sought regulation the ICT sector practitioners. He also indicated that he was willing to incorporate stakeholder views.
The consortium has attended stakeholders fora organised by the Ministry of ICT on the Bill and arrived at a common position that the Bill should be withdrawn. In view of the Committee's request for proposals for amendment of particular clauses in the Bill, stakeholders are meeting with the Ministry to discuss the same.
It is worth noting that the Committee has extended the public participation period to allow for consensus building on the Bill. This is due to the contentions and opposition to the Bill by a significant number of stakeholders, including the Ministry and the Communications Authority.
KICTANet representatives continue to engage in the process to ensure that our views are understood by the legislators. Together with other partners in the consortium, we are also exploring other avenues to resolve the impasse and are hopeful that Parliament will eventually see the sense in dropping this ill informed law.
Regards
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ke.linkedin.com_in_alihkassim&d=DQMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=RyCnmKnElmyFp5WWSWBatNBq_Dw3-DGiqUfOTTba1aA&s=jcddHs1Eitg5pSwnga5dQGm-ZrsWMuniIKZPBukrO2g&e=>
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Kill bill:-) 3!! Ok brian got me.. On 17 Aug 2016 18:52, "Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
. . . . Kill Bill 3 (Kenyan Release) . . . .
:)
Mblayo
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Sidney
We've gone through the full,gauntlet even meeting him with the committee..He is 'open' to dialogue...
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On 17 Aug 2016, at 1:33 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Ali, This bill was sponsored by the Lead of the Majority, Duale, was it not? Have we reached out to him to have it pulled?
On 17 August 2016 at 06:24, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Alex
That's our end game. We have however quickly learnt to be pragmatic when we deal with the August House. :-)
Parliamentary rules are Parliamentary rules..
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Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
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On 17 Aug 2016, at 5:49 AM, Alex Watila via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
#killtheictbill
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On 17 Aug 2016 5:37 a.m., Ebele Okobi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thanks so much for this excellent update!
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+ebeleokobi=fb.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:30 AM To: Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi@fb.com> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Update on ICT Practitioners Bill
Dear Listers,
Apologies for cross-posting.
As you may recall, pursuant to views expressed on this list, we submitted a memorandum to Parliament opposing the ICT Practitioners Bill on 8th July 2016. We teamed up with like minded stakeholders who were also opposed to the Bill to form a working team comprising of ourselves, the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA), the Technology Service Providers of Kenya (TESPOK) , Kenya Information Technology and Outsourcing Services (KITOS) , Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) and the iHub. The consortium was invited for a hearing before the National Assembly Committee on Energy and ICT on the 19th of July where a joint memorandum opposing the Bill was presented. The Committee, relying on Standing Order Number 140 advised on the procedure for withdrawal of a Bill, the gist of which is that the Bill can only be withdrawn by the sponsor. The committee therefore advised the consortium to consider the content of the Bill and propose amendments.
The consortium presented proposals for amendment on several occasions. On 28th of July, they had the opportunity to listen to the sponsor, Hon Adan Duale as he addressed the Committee. He explained that the Bill had been borne out of a petition by a section of Kenyans who sought regulation the ICT sector practitioners. He also indicated that he was willing to incorporate stakeholder views.
The consortium has attended stakeholders fora organised by the Ministry of ICT on the Bill and arrived at a common position that the Bill should be withdrawn. In view of the Committee's request for proposals for amendment of particular clauses in the Bill, stakeholders are meeting with the Ministry to discuss the same.
It is worth noting that the Committee has extended the public participation period to allow for consensus building on the Bill. This is due to the contentions and opposition to the Bill by a significant number of stakeholders, including the Ministry and the Communications Authority.
KICTANet representatives continue to engage in the process to ensure that our views are understood by the legislators. Together with other partners in the consortium, we are also exploring other avenues to resolve the impasse and are hopeful that Parliament will eventually see the sense in dropping this ill informed law.
Regards
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ke.linkedin.com_in_alihkassim&d=DQMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=RyCnmKnElmyFp5WWSWBatNBq_Dw3-DGiqUfOTTba1aA&s=jcddHs1Eitg5pSwnga5dQGm-ZrsWMuniIKZPBukrO2g&e=>
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The plot is unknown at this time for KillBill http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1521225/ In Vol. 2, Bill is lying in the law, presumably dead. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh On 17 August 2016 at 21:05, John Gitau via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Kill bill:-) 3!! Ok brian got me..
On 17 Aug 2016 18:52, "Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
. . . . Kill Bill 3 (Kenyan Release) . . . .
:)
Mblayo
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Sidney
We've gone through the full,gauntlet even meeting him with the committee..He is 'open' to dialogue...
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
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On 17 Aug 2016, at 1:33 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Ali, This bill was sponsored by the Lead of the Majority, Duale, was it not? Have we reached out to him to have it pulled?
On 17 August 2016 at 06:24, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Alex
That's our end game. We have however quickly learnt to be pragmatic when we deal with the August House. :-)
Parliamentary rules are Parliamentary rules..
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
Sent from my iPad
On 17 Aug 2016, at 5:49 AM, Alex Watila via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
#killtheictbill
Sent from Samsung tablet
On 17 Aug 2016 5:37 a.m., Ebele Okobi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thanks so much for this excellent update!
From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+ebeleokobi=fb.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:30 AM To: Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi@fb.com> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Update on ICT Practitioners Bill
Dear Listers,
Apologies for cross-posting.
As you may recall, pursuant to views expressed on this list, we submitted a memorandum to Parliament opposing the ICT Practitioners Bill on 8th July 2016. We teamed up with like minded stakeholders who were also opposed to the Bill to form a working team comprising of ourselves, the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA), the Technology Service Providers of Kenya (TESPOK) , Kenya Information Technology and Outsourcing Services (KITOS) , Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) and the iHub. The consortium was invited for a hearing before the National Assembly Committee on Energy and ICT on the 19th of July where a joint memorandum opposing the Bill was presented. The Committee, relying on Standing Order Number 140 advised on the procedure for withdrawal of a Bill, the gist of which is that the Bill can only be withdrawn by the sponsor. The committee therefore advised the consortium to consider the content of the Bill and propose amendments.
The consortium presented proposals for amendment on several occasions. On 28th of July, they had the opportunity to listen to the sponsor, Hon Adan Duale as he addressed the Committee. He explained that the Bill had been borne out of a petition by a section of Kenyans who sought regulation the ICT sector practitioners. He also indicated that he was willing to incorporate stakeholder views.
The consortium has attended stakeholders fora organised by the Ministry of ICT on the Bill and arrived at a common position that the Bill should be withdrawn. In view of the Committee's request for proposals for amendment of particular clauses in the Bill, stakeholders are meeting with the Ministry to discuss the same.
It is worth noting that the Committee has extended the public participation period to allow for consensus building on the Bill. This is due to the contentions and opposition to the Bill by a significant number of stakeholders, including the Ministry and the Communications Authority.
KICTANet representatives continue to engage in the process to ensure that our views are understood by the legislators. Together with other partners in the consortium, we are also exploring other avenues to resolve the impasse and are hopeful that Parliament will eventually see the sense in dropping this ill informed law.
Regards
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ke.linkedin.com_in_alihkassim&d=DQMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=RyCnmKnElmyFp5WWSWBatNBq_Dw3-DGiqUfOTTba1aA&s=jcddHs1Eitg5pSwnga5dQGm-ZrsWMuniIKZPBukrO2g&e=>
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Alex Watila -
Ali Hussein -
Brian Munyao Longwe -
Ebele Okobi -
John Gitau -
Mwendwa Kivuva -
Sidney Ochieng