CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY
Listers The Communications Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight against cyber crime... http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-w... I sincerely hope that the DG was somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one locally. Can government please focus on legislation and regulation instead of butting into my business and telling me where I should host my website?? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
Interesting Ali. And like you, I do hope that the DG was misquoted. Is CCK website hosted locally? From: ali@hussein.me.ke Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 06:35:58 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Listers The Communications Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight against cyber crime... http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-w... I sincerely hope that the DG was somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one locally. Can government please focus on legislation and regulation instead of butting into my business and telling me where I should host my website?? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.co... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Doesn’t look like the CCK website is hosted locally… From: Grace Githaiga Grace Githaiga Reply: Grace Githaiga ggithaiga@hotmail.com Date: November 27, 2013 at 11:54:13 AM To: Phares Kariuki pkariuki@gmail.com Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY Interesting Ali. And like you, I do hope that the DG was misquoted. Is CCK website hosted locally? From: ali@hussein.me.ke Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 06:35:58 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com Listers The Communications Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight against cyber crime... http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-w... I sincerely hope that the DG was somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one locally. Can government please focus on legislation and regulation instead of butting into my business and telling me where I should host my website?? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.co... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/pkariuki%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Phares Kariuki
The story may also have gone ahead to say that we will have watchmen guard the submarine cables at the landing stations to keep away cyber criminals. A while back, there was little awareness on cyber security in the country. We have quickly moved to ridiculous stories and ridiculous figures been thrown around everywhere. Looks like the strategy here has shifted to Fear, uncertainty and doubt in a bid to force firms to spend in cybersecurity, rather than to inform. Absent in all cybersecurity issues is the issue of the US and China, here we have to rely on Wikileaks to know what is happening in Kenya. Cyber incidents are moving to snooping, where installations get hacked into, but the hackers steal info while trying to leave everything intact, or install backdoors without trying to be obvious. On Wednesday, 27 November 2013, Ali Hussein wrote:
Listers
The Communications Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight against cyber crime...
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-w...
I sincerely hope that the DG was somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one locally.
Can government please focus on legislation and regulation instead of butting into my business and telling me where I should host my website??
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
-- with Regards: blog.denniskioko.com <http://www.denniskioko.com/>
Absolutely absurd if this is in fact true. How does hosting sites locally mitigated against cybercrime? What business does anyone have dictating to me where i can and can't host my websites? On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
The Communications Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight against cyber crime...
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-w...
I sincerely hope that the DG was somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one locally.
Can government please focus on legislation and regulation instead of butting into my business and telling me where I should host my website??
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
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This is the kind of stupidity that makes you wonder if the people dealing with the internet regulations and policy at CCK even know what the internet is. -- Erik Hersman Ushahidi | iHub | BRCK @WhiteAfrican On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Absolutely absurd if this is in fact true.
How does hosting sites locally mitigated against cybercrime?
What business does anyone have dictating to me where i can and can't host my websites?
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Listers
The Communications Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight against cyber crime...
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-w...
I sincerely hope that the DG was somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one locally.
Can government please focus on legislation and regulation instead of butting into my business and telling me where I should host my website??
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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@WhiteAfrican, I do get your message. But your language might be considered too strong by @BlackAfrican standard and folks may take offense. Check Ali's post on the same - same message, different words :-) That said, I think the King @CCK has been caught "naked". Maybe the planned regulation is to make ALL GOVERNMENT data local (which is within the government/regulatory scope to make the call). Or maybe he was misquoted, or maybe I might be trying to hard to do the PR job for CCK... @Wambua, you have off late gone completely underground? walu. nb: the benefit of local hosting within the context of cybersecurity was argued on a 1-on-1 between me and Sammy B and we came to some consensus :- that local hosting does give local enforcement (police, prosecution, judiciary) some teeth...and by extension this in itself can act as deterrent against would-be cybercriminals. I however dont think that this should lead to a decree that everyone MUST host locally because then I will have to give up my jwalu@yahoo.com mail account to avoid hosting my mails abroad :-) -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 11/27/13, Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 4:41 PM This is the kind of stupidity that makes you wonder if the people dealing with the internet regulations and policy at CCK even know what the internet is. -- Erik Hersman Ushahidi | iHub | BRCK@WhiteAfrican On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote: Absolutely absurd if this is in fact true. How does hosting sites locally mitigated against cybercrime? What business does anyone have dictating to me where i can and can't host my websites? On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Listers The Communications Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight against cyber crime... http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-w... I sincerely hope that the DG was somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one locally. Can government please focus on legislation and regulation instead of butting into my business and telling me where I should host my website?? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/conradakunga%40gmail.c... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Walu How does local hosting does give local enforcement (police, prosecution, judiciary) some teeth ? On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@WhiteAfrican,
I do get your message. But your language might be considered too strong by @BlackAfrican standard and folks may take offense. Check Ali's post on the same - same message, different words :-)
That said, I think the King @CCK has been caught "naked". Maybe the planned regulation is to make ALL GOVERNMENT data local (which is within the government/regulatory scope to make the call). Or maybe he was misquoted, or maybe I might be trying to hard to do the PR job for CCK...
@Wambua, you have off late gone completely underground?
walu. nb: the benefit of local hosting within the context of cybersecurity was argued on a 1-on-1 between me and Sammy B and we came to some consensus :- that local hosting does give local enforcement (police, prosecution, judiciary) some teeth...and by extension this in itself can act as deterrent against would-be cybercriminals.
I however dont think that this should lead to a decree that everyone MUST host locally because then I will have to give up my jwalu@yahoo.com mail account to avoid hosting my mails abroad :-)
-------------------------------------------- On Wed, 11/27/13, Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 4:41 PM
This is the kind of stupidity that makes you wonder if the people dealing with the internet regulations and policy at CCK even know what the internet is.
-- Erik Hersman
Ushahidi | iHub | BRCK@WhiteAfrican
On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote: Absolutely absurd if this is in fact true. How does hosting sites locally mitigated against cybercrime?
What business does anyone have dictating to me where i can and can't host my websites?
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
The Communications Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight against cyber crime...
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-w...
I sincerely hope that the DG was somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one locally.
Can government please focus on legislation and regulation instead of butting into my business and telling me where I should host my website??
Ali Hussein
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Hello All, @Walu I think we beat about the bush too much, calling the spade a big spoon all the time - it must be 50 years of this culture by now. The article may be inaccurate, but somebody somewhere might completely misunderstand the internet and overestimate their ability to police it. There's probably a root cause to this increased interest in cyber security. Is it really the stated Shs 2b annually lost to crime? If so, how does the shs 2b loss figure compare to other similar economies? And can that number be unpacked into a useful way for us to truly attribute proportionate cause to international web hosting? who's loosing the 2b anyway - KRA? And, could some of that cyber crime be getting channeled though gmail.com, yahoo.com, facebook.com? Perhaps we should be working at Google.com and facebook.com being hosted in Kenya - that would be a more productive cause - my guess. Best regards On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Walu
How does local hosting does give local enforcement (police, prosecution, judiciary) some teeth ?
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@WhiteAfrican,
I do get your message. But your language might be considered too strong by @BlackAfrican standard and folks may take offense. Check Ali's post on the same - same message, different words :-)
That said, I think the King @CCK has been caught "naked". Maybe the planned regulation is to make ALL GOVERNMENT data local (which is within the government/regulatory scope to make the call). Or maybe he was misquoted, or maybe I might be trying to hard to do the PR job for CCK...
@Wambua, you have off late gone completely underground?
walu. nb: the benefit of local hosting within the context of cybersecurity was argued on a 1-on-1 between me and Sammy B and we came to some consensus :- that local hosting does give local enforcement (police, prosecution, judiciary) some teeth...and by extension this in itself can act as deterrent against would-be cybercriminals.
I however dont think that this should lead to a decree that everyone MUST host locally because then I will have to give up my jwalu@yahoo.commail account to avoid hosting my mails abroad :-)
-------------------------------------------- On Wed, 11/27/13, Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 4:41 PM
This is the kind of stupidity that makes you wonder if the people dealing with the internet regulations and policy at CCK even know what the internet is.
-- Erik Hersman
Ushahidi | iHub | BRCK@WhiteAfrican
On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote: Absolutely absurd if this is in fact true. How does hosting sites locally mitigated against cybercrime?
What business does anyone have dictating to me where i can and can't host my websites?
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
The Communications Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight against cyber crime...
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-w...
I sincerely hope that the DG was somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one locally.
Can government please focus on legislation and regulation instead of butting into my business and telling me where I should host my website??
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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Walu please advise.What would the local police do when the cyber criminal is in some distant island? Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+ngethe.kariuki2007=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 08:46:20 To: <ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY @WhiteAfrican, I do get your message. But your language might be considered too strong by @BlackAfrican standard and folks may take offense. Check Ali's post on the same - same message, different words :-) That said, I think the King @CCK has been caught "naked". Maybe the planned regulation is to make ALL GOVERNMENT data local (which is within the government/regulatory scope to make the call). Or maybe he was misquoted, or maybe I might be trying to hard to do the PR job for CCK... @Wambua, you have off late gone completely underground? walu. nb: the benefit of local hosting within the context of cybersecurity was argued on a 1-on-1 between me and Sammy B and we came to some consensus :- that local hosting does give local enforcement (police, prosecution, judiciary) some teeth...and by extension this in itself can act as deterrent against would-be cybercriminals. I however dont think that this should lead to a decree that everyone MUST host locally because then I will have to give up my jwalu@yahoo.com mail account to avoid hosting my mails abroad :-) -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 11/27/13, Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK PUSHES LOCAL FIRMS TO HOST WEBSITES LOCALLY To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 4:41 PM This is the kind of stupidity that makes you wonder if the people dealing with the internet regulations and policy at CCK even know what the internet is. -- Erik Hersman Ushahidi | iHub | BRCK@WhiteAfrican On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote: Absolutely absurd if this is in fact true. How does hosting sites locally mitigated against cybercrime? What business does anyone have dictating to me where i can and can't host my websites? On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Listers The Communications Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight against cyber crime... http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-w... I sincerely hope that the DG was somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one locally. Can government please focus on legislation and regulation instead of butting into my business and telling me where I should host my website?? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. 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Ali, that's strongly strongly put. you are passionate indeed!. (had to check synonyms for rudimentary) Regards, Judy On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
The Communications Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight against cyber crime...
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-w...
I sincerely hope that the DG was somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one locally.
Can government please focus on legislation and regulation instead of butting into my business and telling me where I should host my website??
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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Well I wish to throw my weight on this debate. CCK's motive might be noble, but their approach, and the people making this unilateral calls might not be very informed. All of us would love our content to be hosted locally, makes sense in terms of pricing - No international data transit costs, creates employment, and we get to host all content in the region. But local content has no bearing on cyber-crime. Its ridiculous if not funny. What CCK should advocate, promote, and push for, is an enabling environment, an environment where Ali Hussein can setup a server firm to rival IBM cloud computing, Rackspace, or 1&1 Internet. This we have preached on this list countless times. And we all know what needs to be done, cheap affordable energy (forget about green energy, the west preaches to us about it but does not practice it - and we've auctioned all our coal to the Chinese in exchange of solar panels), affordable and reliable real broadband connectivity, government subsidies in the industry, e.t.c. This sounds like the Konza dream. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh On 27 November 2013 13:52, Judy M. Muli <judym.muli@gmail.com> wrote:
Ali,
that's strongly strongly put. you are passionate indeed!. (had to check synonyms for rudimentary)
Regards, Judy
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
The Communications Commission of Kenya has proposed a licensing condition that may compel Internet service providers (ISPs) to bring websites hosted offshore back to the country in the fight against cyber crime...
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/CCK-pushes-firms-to-host-w...
I sincerely hope that the DG was somehow misquoted on this story. Whilst its a good idea to host sites locally this in no way stops cybercrime or mitigates it. Infact with the rudimentary security infrastructure most providers have I will be loath to host any site locally leave alone an Ecommerce one locally.
Can government please focus on legislation and regulation instead of butting into my business and telling me where I should host my website??
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
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participants (12)
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Agosta Liko -
Ali Hussein -
Dennis Kioko -
Erik Hersman -
Grace Githaiga -
John Kieti -
Judy M. Muli -
Kivuva -
ngethe.kariuki2007＠yahoo.co.uk -
Phares Kariuki -
Rad! -
Walubengo J