Re: [kictanet] LGBT rights for ICT professionals and other engineers/scientists
According to World Health Organisation, every day 3,000 people commit suicide around the world for broad broad range of reasons. It would therefore be better to direct the concern to the international organisation for global action we focus our energies on trying to get some semblance of decent access to our vast majority(over 70 per cent of the population) at this point in time. ------------------------------ On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 2:17 PM MSKS Barrack Otieno wrote:
Hi Adam,
I think the position of the Kenyan Society is clear from the Wikipedia post you have made , let us focus on ICT since we are united in promoting the growth and development of the Information and Communications Technology sector.
Best Regards
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I recently read with distress this email from Alan Turing written shortly before his suicide following conviction for "gross indecency after admitting to a sexual relationship with another man".
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/06/yours-in-distress-alan.html
And then read this sad article summarizing the current state of affairs regarding LGBT rights in Kenya:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Kenya
Is there anything that the members of the KICTAnet community can do to support LGBT members of the engineering and ICT communities in Kenya? Supporting individual rights is critical to creating an environment where innovation can happen.
Cheers, Adam
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@Barrack, ICT Reseacher +1, Very True that. @Adam, In the value-chain of our local problems that ICT could positively intervene e.g corruption, disease, traffic jam, tribalism, insecurity, poaching, and many others, I would be very surprised if Listers will have time to spare to discuss how folks by the name LGBT could be assisted through ICT. walu. ______________________________________________________________________________________ From: ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] LGBT rights for ICT professionals and other engineers/scientists According to World Health Organisation, every day 3,000 people commit suicide around the world for broad broad range of reasons. It would therefore be better to direct the concern to the international organisation for global action we focus our energies on trying to get some semblance of decent access to our vast majority(over 70 per cent of the population) at this point in time. ------------------------------ On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 2:17 PM MSKS Barrack Otieno wrote:
Hi Adam,
I think the position of the Kenyan Society is clear from the Wikipedia post you have made , let us focus on ICT since we are united in promoting the growth and development of the Information and Communications Technology sector.
Best Regards
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I recently read with distress this email from Alan Turing written shortly before his suicide following conviction for "gross indecency after admitting to a sexual relationship with another man".
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/06/yours-in-distress-alan.html
And then read this sad article summarizing the current state of affairs regarding LGBT rights in Kenya:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Kenya
Is there anything that the members of the KICTAnet community can do to support LGBT members of the engineering and ICT communities in Kenya? Supporting individual rights is critical to creating an environment where innovation can happen.
Cheers, Adam
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I'm surprised at the speed at which the West has switched to LGBT issues, seeing the many issues that women still face in developing countries. There's a lot of oppression and violence towards women that I believe we can start by addressing first? On Sunday, 9 June 2013, Walubengo J wrote:
@Barrack, ICT Reseacher +1, Very True that.
@Adam, In the value-chain of our local problems that ICT could positively intervene e.g corruption, disease, traffic jam, tribalism, insecurity, poaching, and many others, I would be very surprised if Listers will have time to spare to discuss how folks by the name LGBT could be assisted through ICT.
walu.
______________________________________________________________________________________ *From:* ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'ict.researcher@yahoo.com');>> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'jwalu@yahoo.com');> *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke');> *Sent:* Sunday, June 9, 2013 1:53 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] LGBT rights for ICT professionals and other engineers/scientists
According to World Health Organisation, every day 3,000 people commit suicide around the world for broad broad range of reasons. It would therefore be better to direct the concern to the international organisation for global action we focus our energies on trying to get some semblance of decent access to our vast majority(over 70 per cent of the population) at this point in time.
------------------------------ On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 2:17 PM MSKS Barrack Otieno wrote:
Hi Adam,
I think the position of the Kenyan Society is clear from the Wikipedia post you have made , let us focus on ICT since we are united in promoting the growth and development of the Information and Communications Technology sector.
Best Regards
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'adam@varud.com');>> wrote:
I recently read with distress this email from Alan Turing written shortly before his suicide following conviction for "gross indecency after admitting to a sexual relationship with another man".
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/06/yours-in-distress-alan.html
And then read this sad article summarizing the current state of affairs regarding LGBT rights in Kenya:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Kenya
Is there anything that the members of the KICTAnet community can do to support LGBT members of the engineering and ICT communities in Kenya? Supporting individual rights is critical to creating an environment where innovation can happen.
Cheers, Adam
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development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and
bandwidth,
share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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Considering the statistics mentiond in the article, Im not betting on KICTANET following not too divergent a statistic, as such any comments here will also probably follow the same statistical trend... Just maybe coated in more "correct" tone / language.... :-) ++1 on sticking to Core ICT business though. On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm surprised at the speed at which the West has switched to LGBT issues, seeing the many issues that women still face in developing countries. There's a lot of oppression and violence towards women that I believe we can start by addressing first?
On Sunday, 9 June 2013, Walubengo J wrote:
@Barrack, ICT Reseacher +1, Very True that.
@Adam, In the value-chain of our local problems that ICT could positively intervene e.g corruption, disease, traffic jam, tribalism, insecurity, poaching, and many others, I would be very surprised if Listers will have time to spare to discuss how folks by the name LGBT could be assisted through ICT.
walu.
______________________________________________________________________________________ *From:* ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Sent:* Sunday, June 9, 2013 1:53 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] LGBT rights for ICT professionals and other engineers/scientists
According to World Health Organisation, every day 3,000 people commit suicide around the world for broad broad range of reasons. It would therefore be better to direct the concern to the international organisation for global action we focus our energies on trying to get some semblance of decent access to our vast majority(over 70 per cent of the population) at this point in time.
------------------------------ On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 2:17 PM MSKS Barrack Otieno wrote:
Hi Adam,
I think the position of the Kenyan Society is clear from the Wikipedia post you have made , let us focus on ICT since we are united in promoting the growth and development of the Information and Communications Technology sector.
Best Regards
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I recently read with distress this email from Alan Turing written shortly before his suicide following conviction for "gross indecency after admitting to a sexual relationship with another man".
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/06/yours-in-distress-alan.html
And then read this sad article summarizing the current state of affairs regarding LGBT rights in Kenya:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Kenya
Is there anything that the members of the KICTAnet community can do to support LGBT members of the engineering and ICT communities in Kenya? Supporting individual rights is critical to creating an environment where innovation can happen.
Cheers, Adam
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development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and
bandwidth,
share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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Speaking of disease... Promoting sodomy, is a sure way to increase HIV in Africa! http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/HIVIncidencePressRelease.html. http://factsaboutyouth.com/posts/on-the-promotion-of-homosexuality-in-the-sc... On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Barrack, ICT Reseacher +1, Very True that.
@Adam, In the value-chain of our local problems that ICT could positively intervene e.g corruption, disease, traffic jam, tribalism, insecurity, poaching, and many others, I would be very surprised if Listers will have time to spare to discuss how folks by the name LGBT could be assisted through ICT.
walu.
______________________________________________________________________________________ *From:* ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Sent:* Sunday, June 9, 2013 1:53 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] LGBT rights for ICT professionals and other engineers/scientists
According to World Health Organisation, every day 3,000 people commit suicide around the world for broad broad range of reasons. It would therefore be better to direct the concern to the international organisation for global action we focus our energies on trying to get some semblance of decent access to our vast majority(over 70 per cent of the population) at this point in time.
------------------------------ On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 2:17 PM MSKS Barrack Otieno wrote:
Hi Adam,
I think the position of the Kenyan Society is clear from the Wikipedia post you have made , let us focus on ICT since we are united in promoting the growth and development of the Information and Communications Technology sector.
Best Regards
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I recently read with distress this email from Alan Turing written shortly before his suicide following conviction for "gross indecency after admitting to a sexual relationship with another man".
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/06/yours-in-distress-alan.html
And then read this sad article summarizing the current state of affairs regarding LGBT rights in Kenya:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Kenya
Is there anything that the members of the KICTAnet community can do to support LGBT members of the engineering and ICT communities in Kenya? Supporting individual rights is critical to creating an environment where innovation can happen.
Cheers, Adam
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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and
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participants (5)
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Areba Collins [ ＠BrainiacKE ® ] -
Dennis Kioko -
ICT Researcher -
S.M. Muraya -
Walubengo J