IF CCK CHOOSES TO MONITOR INTERNET TRAFFIC, WILL IT ALSO MANAGE TO BLOCK TORRENTS THAT CONSUME BANDWIDTH?
If CCK Kenya reported to make a call that it will monitor all internet traffic, can it also block the largest torrents and most used ones such as piratebay? Your opinions are welcomed. *Link: http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2012/05/01/isps-told-to-block-pirate-bays-way... * -- *Regards,* *Michelle T.* *Cell: +254-734-695-532* * *
first, torrents evolve. Will CCK evolve as fast? I dont think so. ( THEY WILL END UP STUCK WITH EXPENSIVE/OBSOLTE SOFTWARE/ HARDWARE) Second, torrent clients are not generic, so will CCK be able to pin down all the different types? I dont know. Third, in the west they have decided to take down the largest pirates (read TIM dot Com and Newzealand). But even then, with Napster down, Megaupload gone... i still have thousands of peers seeding from every torrent i download. Its only a matter of time before someone else come up with something that makes torrents obsolete. rather than blockading the media owners should be thinking disruptive techonology, something that makes torrents irrelevant. My two cents.
CCK will have to hire very tough hackers to be able to bypass some of the security protocols most of us use. And with the lack of capacity in KE, hiring guys from Eastern Europe for this, will be expensive. Automation in Information Security never works, only for the lazy. So don't believe everything you hear. Kindly, ./Chucks On 5/1/12, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote:
first, torrents evolve. Will CCK evolve as fast? I dont think so. ( THEY WILL END UP STUCK WITH EXPENSIVE/OBSOLTE SOFTWARE/ HARDWARE) Second, torrent clients are not generic, so will CCK be able to pin down all the different types? I dont know. Third, in the west they have decided to take down the largest pirates (read TIM dot Com and Newzealand). But even then, with Napster down, Megaupload gone... i still have thousands of peers seeding from every torrent i download.
Its only a matter of time before someone else come up with something that makes torrents obsolete. rather than blockading the media owners should be thinking disruptive techonology, something that makes torrents irrelevant.
My two cents.
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@John If i may ask, First: What does it take to monitor the web? Second: What does it take to block a torrent, say Pirate bay. I never followed up on the megaupload case On 1 May 2012 14:35, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
CCK will have to hire very tough hackers to be able to bypass some of the security protocols most of us use. And with the lack of capacity in KE, hiring guys from Eastern Europe for this, will be expensive. Automation in Information Security never works, only for the lazy.
So don't believe everything you hear.
Kindly,
./Chucks
On 5/1/12, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote:
first, torrents evolve. Will CCK evolve as fast? I dont think so. ( THEY WILL END UP STUCK WITH EXPENSIVE/OBSOLTE SOFTWARE/ HARDWARE) Second, torrent clients are not generic, so will CCK be able to pin down all the different types? I dont know. Third, in the west they have decided to take down the largest pirates (read TIM dot Com and Newzealand). But even then, with Napster down, Megaupload gone... i still have thousands of peers seeding from every torrent i download.
Its only a matter of time before someone else come up with something that makes torrents obsolete. rather than blockading the media owners should be thinking disruptive techonology, something that makes torrents irrelevant.
My two cents.
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IF U CAN MANAGE TO SEE THESE WITH ALL THE CABLE CUTS...this may help the discussion. Pirate Bay: Fighting a losing battle? File-sharing site The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK internet service providers, the High Court has ruled. The Swedish website hosts links to mostly pirated free music and videos. But, as the BBC's Daniel Emery explains, copyright holder may still be "fighting a losing battle" in the quest to protect their material. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17902172
In the grand context of cyber-security and the myriad of daily issues we face as a country, I posit that torrents (read PirateBay) will be a low priority item.... Mblayo On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote:
IF U CAN MANAGE TO SEE THESE WITH ALL THE CABLE CUTS...this may help the discussion.
Pirate Bay: Fighting a losing battle?
File-sharing site The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK internet service providers, the High Court has ruled.
The Swedish website hosts links to mostly pirated free music and videos.
But, as the BBC's Daniel Emery explains, copyright holder may still be "fighting a losing battle" in the quest to protect their material.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17902172
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I think that what's needed is consumer education to help people understand the effect of such download sites on copyright etc., and at the same time, a call on the copyright owners to reduce the prices of their products and also to make them readily available so as to reduce the incentives for people to use torrent sites, or better yet find better ways of using P2P sites. While blocking sites such as piratebay may be options, i think such measures need to be balanced with the right of citizens to access information freely, without unnecessary restrictions, since i believe that there is legitimate 'copyright free' information that is transmitted in peer networks. Victor -- Victor Kapiyo, LL.B ==================================================== *“Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude” Zig Ziglar *
@ Mblayo, Priority is relative. Torrents could be a "zero" issue for you but might be a big issue for a politician or a Policy guy - depending on what the torrent is sharing. Right now am somehwere @China and am amused to find that twitter.com does NOT work at these of end of the globe. Perhaps it is temporary and it will work tomorrow but highly doubtful;-) Meanwhile, Google is chucking moderated results and outrightly refusing to respond to others like "Tiananman Square" (-1 for Joe M ;-). I want to keep trying this search key but fear someone might trace my IP and knock at my door at midnite - shivering :-( @ ./Chucks Looks like automated technology does work these sides ;-) walu. nb: let me know if this mail gets to .KE or it will be quarantined somewhere.. --- On Wed, 5/2/12, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote: From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] IF CCK CHOOSES TO MONITOR INTERNET TRAFFIC, WILL IT ALSO MANAGE TO BLOCK TORRENTS THAT CONSUME BANDWIDTH? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 12:56 PM In the grand context of cyber-security and the myriad of daily issues we face as a country, I posit that torrents (read PirateBay) will be a low priority item.... Mblayo On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote: IF U CAN MANAGE TO SEE THESE WITH ALL THE CABLE CUTS...this may help the discussion. Pirate Bay: Fighting a losing battle? File-sharing site The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK internet service providers, the High Court has ruled. The Swedish website hosts links to mostly pirated free music and videos. But, as the BBC's Daniel Emery explains, copyright holder may still be "fighting a losing battle" in the quest to protect their material. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17902172 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Brian Munyao Longwee-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: +254715964281 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com "Give us clear vision that we may know where to stand and what to stand for, because unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Walu, Your message has arrived in good order. I didn't say zero - I just alluded to the fact that there are other cyber-threats that might have a higher priority than concerns over "Desperate Housewives Season 7" copyright issues. But as I watch CNN and see the exposé on how Al-Qaeda operatives were found with hundreds of documents hidden in encrypted form in what for all intents and purposes was a "normal" pornographic video file stored on a standard memory stick - then all of a sudden torrents jump closer to the top in terms of priority since they are the primary means by which (a lot) porn is "shared".... Please be careful out there, we need you back whole and healthy and of sound mind! :) Best regards, Mblayo On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@ Mblayo, Priority is relative. Torrents could be a "zero" issue for you but might be a big issue for a politician or a Policy guy - depending on what the torrent is sharing. Right now am somehwere @China and am amused to find that twitter.com does NOT work at these of end of the globe. Perhaps it is temporary and it will work tomorrow but highly doubtful;-)
Meanwhile, Google is chucking moderated results and outrightly refusing to respond to others like "Tiananman Square" (-1 for Joe M ;-). I want to keep trying this search key but fear someone might trace my IP and knock at my door at midnite - shivering :-(
@ ./Chucks Looks like automated technology does work these sides ;-)
walu. nb: let me know if this mail gets to .KE or it will be quarantined somewhere..
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From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] IF CCK CHOOSES TO MONITOR INTERNET TRAFFIC, WILL IT ALSO MANAGE TO BLOCK TORRENTS THAT CONSUME BANDWIDTH? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 12:56 PM
In the grand context of cyber-security and the myriad of daily issues we face as a country, I posit that torrents (read PirateBay) will be a low priority item....
Mblayo
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=peterwakaba@gmail.com>
wrote:
IF U CAN MANAGE TO SEE THESE WITH ALL THE CABLE CUTS...this may help the discussion.
Pirate Bay: Fighting a losing battle?
File-sharing site The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK internet service providers, the High Court has ruled.
The Swedish website hosts links to mostly pirated free music and videos.
But, as the BBC's Daniel Emery explains, copyright holder may still be "fighting a losing battle" in the quest to protect their material.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17902172
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Hey Walu, Glad to read from you from the land of the orient.. Can't help but notice your "Chi-english" is also catching up well. Now, on the control/filter you are experiencing - it is something called DPI, akin to what the box I showed you is capable of achieving. You remember the 'box...? Stay well. Harry From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 5:07 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Re- IF CCK CHOOSES TO MONITOR INTERNET TRAFFIC (they will be doing nothing new) @ Mblayo, Priority is relative. Torrents could be a "zero" issue for you but might be a big issue for a politician or a Policy guy - depending on what the torrent is sharing. Right now am somehwere @China and am amused to find that twitter.com does NOT work at these of end of the globe. Perhaps it is temporary and it will work tomorrow but highly doubtful;-) Meanwhile, Google is chucking moderated results and outrightly refusing to respond to others like "Tiananman Square" (-1 for Joe M ;-). I want to keep trying this search key but fear someone might trace my IP and knock at my door at midnite - shivering :-( @ ./Chucks Looks like automated technology does work these sides ;-) walu. nb: let me know if this mail gets to .KE or it will be quarantined somewhere.. --- On Wed, 5/2/12, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote: From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] IF CCK CHOOSES TO MONITOR INTERNET TRAFFIC, WILL IT ALSO MANAGE TO BLOCK TORRENTS THAT CONSUME BANDWIDTH? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 12:56 PM In the grand context of cyber-security and the myriad of daily issues we face as a country, I posit that torrents (read PirateBay) will be a low priority item.... Mblayo On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote: IF U CAN MANAGE TO SEE THESE WITH ALL THE CABLE CUTS...this may help the discussion. Pirate Bay: Fighting a losing battle? File-sharing site The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK internet service providers, the High Court has ruled. The Swedish website hosts links to mostly pirated free music and videos. But, as the BBC's Daniel Emery explains, copyright holder may still be "fighting a losing battle" in the quest to protect their material. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17902172 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe@gmail.com cell: +254715964281 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com "Give us clear vision that we may know where to stand and what to stand for, because unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything." -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Exactly what does everyone have against torrents? Granted some people misuse them but fighting a protocol for being efficient is just not feasible. Gitau Sent from my iPad On 1 May 2012, at 14:35, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
CCK will have to hire very tough hackers to be able to bypass some of the security protocols most of us use. And with the lack of capacity in KE, hiring guys from Eastern Europe for this, will be expensive. Automation in Information Security never works, only for the lazy.
So don't believe everything you hear.
Kindly,
./Chucks
On 5/1/12, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote:
first, torrents evolve. Will CCK evolve as fast? I dont think so. ( THEY WILL END UP STUCK WITH EXPENSIVE/OBSOLTE SOFTWARE/ HARDWARE) Second, torrent clients are not generic, so will CCK be able to pin down all the different types? I dont know. Third, in the west they have decided to take down the largest pirates (read TIM dot Com and Newzealand). But even then, with Napster down, Megaupload gone... i still have thousands of peers seeding from every torrent i download.
Its only a matter of time before someone else come up with something that makes torrents obsolete. rather than blockading the media owners should be thinking disruptive techonology, something that makes torrents irrelevant.
My two cents.
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@John: They say its copyright infringement ... thats why def they are against it... Now pirate bay is on the list and looks like they are going head on collision with it. On 1 May 2012 14:42, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
Exactly what does everyone have against torrents?
Granted some people misuse them but fighting a protocol for being efficient is just not feasible.
Gitau
Sent from my iPad
On 1 May 2012, at 14:35, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
CCK will have to hire very tough hackers to be able to bypass some of the security protocols most of us use. And with the lack of capacity in KE, hiring guys from Eastern Europe for this, will be expensive. Automation in Information Security never works, only for the lazy.
So don't believe everything you hear.
Kindly,
./Chucks
first, torrents evolve. Will CCK evolve as fast? I dont think so. ( THEY WILL END UP STUCK WITH EXPENSIVE/OBSOLTE SOFTWARE/ HARDWARE) Second, torrent clients are not generic, so will CCK be able to pin down all the different types? I dont know. Third, in the west they have decided to take down the largest pirates (read TIM dot Com and Newzealand). But even then, with Napster down, Megaupload gone... i still have thousands of peers seeding from every torrent i download.
Its only a matter of time before someone else come up with something
On 5/1/12, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote: that
makes torrents obsolete. rather than blockading the media owners should be thinking disruptive techonology, something that makes torrents irrelevant.
My two cents.
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It would appear "not very clever" to block peer to peer networks and torrents for that matter. Torrents may be used to pirate Intellectual Property but that is not what the protocol was build for. It enables people to move huge files even with limited bandwidth. Because cars kill on the road, do we block all cars from using a road? On 01/05/2012, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
Exactly what does everyone have against torrents?
Granted some people misuse them but fighting a protocol for being efficient is just not feasible.
Gitau
Sent from my iPad
On 1 May 2012, at 14:35, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
CCK will have to hire very tough hackers to be able to bypass some of the security protocols most of us use. And with the lack of capacity in KE, hiring guys from Eastern Europe for this, will be expensive. Automation in Information Security never works, only for the lazy.
So don't believe everything you hear.
Kindly,
./Chucks
On 5/1/12, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote:
first, torrents evolve. Will CCK evolve as fast? I dont think so. ( THEY WILL END UP STUCK WITH EXPENSIVE/OBSOLTE SOFTWARE/ HARDWARE) Second, torrent clients are not generic, so will CCK be able to pin down all the different types? I dont know. Third, in the west they have decided to take down the largest pirates (read TIM dot Com and Newzealand). But even then, with Napster down, Megaupload gone... i still have thousands of peers seeding from every torrent i download.
Its only a matter of time before someone else come up with something that makes torrents obsolete. rather than blockading the media owners should be thinking disruptive techonology, something that makes torrents irrelevant.
My two cents.
-- -- Gichuki John Ndirangu, C.E.H , C.P.T.P, O.S.C.P I.T Security Analyst and Penetration Tester jgichuki at inbox d0t com
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DPI would make blocking possible irrespective of torrent clients, protocol etc. There would also be no need to do it per site such as pirates bay. The only other way to make blocking impossible is through encrypting traffic eg in VPN or tunnels such as ssh tunnels. On 05/01/2012 02:18 PM, Peter Wakaba wrote:
first, torrents evolve. Will CCK evolve as fast? I dont think so. ( THEY WILL END UP STUCK WITH EXPENSIVE/OBSOLTE SOFTWARE/ HARDWARE) Second, torrent clients are not generic, so will CCK be able to pin down all the different types? I dont know. Third, in the west they have decided to take down the largest pirates (read TIM dot Com and Newzealand). But even then, with Napster down, Megaupload gone... i still have thousands of peers seeding from every torrent i download.
Its only a matter of time before someone else come up with something that makes torrents obsolete. rather than blockading the media owners should be thinking disruptive techonology, something that makes torrents irrelevant.
My two cents.
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@Alex DPI could work for sure...but then again there is no need to do it on a site basis. On 1 May 2012 15:00, Alex Kamiru <nderitualex@gmail.com> wrote:
DPI would make blocking possible irrespective of torrent clients, protocol etc. There would also be no need to do it per site such as pirates bay. The only other way to make blocking impossible is through encrypting traffic eg in VPN or tunnels such as ssh tunnels.
On 05/01/2012 02:18 PM, Peter Wakaba wrote:
first, torrents evolve. Will CCK evolve as fast? I dont think so. ( THEY WILL END UP STUCK WITH EXPENSIVE/OBSOLTE SOFTWARE/ HARDWARE) Second, torrent clients are not generic, so will CCK be able to pin down all the different types? I dont know. Third, in the west they have decided to take down the largest pirates (read TIM dot Com and Newzealand). But even then, with Napster down, Megaupload gone... i still have thousands of peers seeding from every torrent i download.
Its only a matter of time before someone else come up with something that makes torrents obsolete. rather than blockading the media owners should be thinking disruptive techonology, something that makes torrents irrelevant.
My two cents.
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participants (10)
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Alex Kamiru -
Brian Munyao Longwe -
Gichuki John Chuksjonia -
Harry Delano -
John Gitau -
Kivuva -
Michelle Tongo -
Peter Wakaba -
Victor Kapiyo -
Walubengo J