Re: [kictanet] Hurricane at the eye of a storm (Yes ? No )
All It seems inconceivable to that a global player like HE wouldn't know the regulatory environment in the markets they play. To me this story seems unlikely as HE is big enough to probably swallow all the players in the market without belching... :-) Here's a link to some information on them:- Hurricane Electric <https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=1499575> Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Barry Macharia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
If this is the case then further investigation needs to be carried out to establish the truth. Any player in particular( name and shame ) trying to influence the introduction of the said levy
barry macharia
On 14 Mar 2018, at 09:58, Collins Areba via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Barry
It is not the Intruduction of the levy that is the problem, it is why such levy is introduced that I have a problem with. If players can lobby for a levy to be introduced to make a competitor less effective then whats to stop them from leaving it at just that?
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 9:45 AM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
EADC is (ideally) a carrier neutral DC.
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
EADC = Liquid Telecom/Econet
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 8:41 AM Barry Macharia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is interesting But again i don't see how introducing a levy will stop Hurricane Electric from selling there capacity at any cost they want, its there capacity any way It has become a free market so you buy were you can
My two cent
regards Barry
On 14 Mar 2018, at 09:20, Collins Areba via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Morning Listers,
Treat this as rumours as my source wont agree to be named or linked with this information. For information's sake though, please indulge me.
Hurricane Electric (http://he.com) , or HE is a global carrier. (more like a carrier of carriers). HE is a breath of fresh air when it comes to connectivity. They do not price the product as if it is made of vibranium. HE also runs a lean shop, as a result, their prices are in the order of thousands of percentage points lower than you would get from anyone locally.
In fact, they price internet lower than anyone prices a local loop from Nairobi to Kilifi. (Pity we cant get HE anywhere other than EADC, and operators are moving in their droves from the usual suspects. Which is somewhat the problem and gist of this post, because the usual suspects are not happy.
Hence my question. Might anyone in this list (particularly from CA) be privy to attempts to introduce another levy for anyone interested in getting services from an operator in EADC?
It just feels like when we just saw the ray of light on this issue, cartel like "forces" close in.
Regards,
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The fear of other operators is HE has brought down the cost of IP transit drastically meaning thats the new cost of bandwidth per Mb regards barry Macharia
On 14 Mar 2018, at 16:11, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
All
It seems inconceivable to that a global player like HE wouldn't know the regulatory environment in the markets they play. To me this story seems unlikely as HE is big enough to probably swallow all the players in the market without belching... :-)
Here's a link to some information on them:-
Hurricane Electric <https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=1499575>
Regards
Ali Hussein Principal AHK & Associates
Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya.
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Barry Macharia via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: If this is the case then further investigation needs to be carried out to establish the truth. Any player in particular( name and shame ) trying to influence the introduction of the said levy
barry macharia
On 14 Mar 2018, at 09:58, Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
@Barry
It is not the Intruduction of the levy that is the problem, it is why such levy is introduced that I have a problem with. If players can lobby for a levy to be introduced to make a competitor less effective then whats to stop them from leaving it at just that?
Regards,
Collins Areba, Kilifi, Kenya. Tel: +254 707 750 788 / 0731750788 Twitter: @arebacollins. Skype: arebacollins
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 9:45 AM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com <mailto:arebacollins@gmail.com>> wrote: EADC is (ideally) a carrier neutral DC.
Regards,
Collins Areba, Kilifi, Kenya. Tel: +254 707 750 788 / 0731750788 Twitter: @arebacollins. Skype: arebacollins
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
EADC = Liquid Telecom/Econet
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 8:41 AM Barry Macharia via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: This is interesting But again i don't see how introducing a levy will stop Hurricane Electric from selling there capacity at any cost they want, its there capacity any way It has become a free market so you buy were you can
My two cent
regards Barry
On 14 Mar 2018, at 09:20, Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Morning Listers,
Treat this as rumours as my source wont agree to be named or linked with this information. For information's sake though, please indulge me.
Hurricane Electric (http://he.com <http://he.com/>) , or HE is a global carrier. (more like a carrier of carriers). HE is a breath of fresh air when it comes to connectivity. They do not price the product as if it is made of vibranium. HE also runs a lean shop, as a result, their prices are in the order of thousands of percentage points lower than you would get from anyone locally.
In fact, they price internet lower than anyone prices a local loop from Nairobi to Kilifi. (Pity we cant get HE anywhere other than EADC, and operators are moving in their droves from the usual suspects. Which is somewhat the problem and gist of this post, because the usual suspects are not happy.
Hence my question. Might anyone in this list (particularly from CA) be privy to attempts to introduce another levy for anyone interested in getting services from an operator in EADC?
It just feels like when we just saw the ray of light on this issue, cartel like "forces" close in.
Regards,
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