The role of Media in political developement
Listers, Having watched a couple of programmes focusing on current political happenings i am left wondering on the role of the media, are some of this media houses engaged in political activism or are they educating the masses?. Why cant media houses be more innovative and focus on debates such as what we had on this list (Ndemo for president). This populist debates centered around opinions are a recipe for chaos. One just needs to look at what happened in Sabatia to know what can happen when this opinion contests are not handled well. We need to evaluate the possible impact of some of this opinion based discussions, they may shore up profits for media houses but divide the country. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
Barrack, In the front page of the New York Times is Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana bowing out after his defeat in the Republican primary. Sen. Lugar has been in the Senate close to 40 years shaping the US policy. His sins are that he is a moderate as fae as the divide between conservatives and democrats. He was defeated by a far right candidate under the banner of Tea Party within the conservative party. Although the Tea Party is popular, they did not split to form a new party. They are simply re defining the conservative agenda. Our politics has not changed much since we. have never looked beyond our ethnicity. In defence of a single party Moi said multi party will divide the country. And true to his word we are more divided today than we were at independence. At independence we more ideological to the extent that Kaggia leaned more to Odinga than Mboya who was a Kenyatta protege. The younger generation must begin to change this a round issues. This however is not happening. Youth who should be our hope are being used to advance separatist movements such as MRC, Mungiki, Chinkororo etc. These organisations are threatening the economic gains we have made under President Kibaki. To hang on to this momentum, we must not allow self seekers to destroy the country, to misuse the youth and above all to create division among ourselves. We have the greatest opportunity today to create employment like never before but unfortunately politics is taking centre stage. We must refuse and take individual responsibility on that which is happening as we watch. I am challenging this Forum to take its rightful responsibility and seek for an issue based debate among all declared candidates. Let us know what they plan to do with: Youth Unemployment Food security Education Health and more. In the US Media has a responsibility to organise town hall debates to allow every citizen to be heard. We are the New Media. We can generate the issues here then use the forum to enhance the political debates. In the absence of anything politicians will always revert to siasa ya kumalizana. Regards Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:09:04 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Listers, Having watched a couple of programmes focusing on current political happenings i am left wondering on the role of the media, are some of this media houses engaged in political activism or are they educating the masses?. Why cant media houses be more innovative and focus on debates such as what we had on this list (Ndemo for president). This populist debates centered around opinions are a recipe for chaos. One just needs to look at what happened in Sabatia to know what can happen when this opinion contests are not handled well. We need to evaluate the possible impact of some of this opinion based discussions, they may shore up profits for media houses but divide the country. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Listers/Daktari, I agree that indeed, it is time that the forum took the center stage in generating issues that media can use to create such "town hall" style meetings. Just like in the US for instance, media houses such as NBC, ABC CBS, etc host shows such as "State of the nation, etc" In these shows politicians are taken to task and asked tough questions on where they stand on several issues. They go further and interrogate past political stands of their leaders such as "How & why they voted on certain bills", etc. If this forum spearheaded such an initiative with the support of the media, the political class will stand on notice that they must to steer clear of empty, not so useful and dangerous rhetoric in favor of progressive leadership. I say we go for it, we owe the next generations at least this much...we can do it! Best Regards, Edwin -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of bitange@jambo.co.ke Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:02 PM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Barrack, In the front page of the New York Times is Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana bowing out after his defeat in the Republican primary. Sen. Lugar has been in the Senate close to 40 years shaping the US policy. His sins are that he is a moderate as fae as the divide between conservatives and democrats. He was defeated by a far right candidate under the banner of Tea Party within the conservative party. Although the Tea Party is popular, they did not split to form a new party. They are simply re defining the conservative agenda. Our politics has not changed much since we. have never looked beyond our ethnicity. In defence of a single party Moi said multi party will divide the country. And true to his word we are more divided today than we were at independence. At independence we more ideological to the extent that Kaggia leaned more to Odinga than Mboya who was a Kenyatta protege. The younger generation must begin to change this a round issues. This however is not happening. Youth who should be our hope are being used to advance separatist movements such as MRC, Mungiki, Chinkororo etc. These organisations are threatening the economic gains we have made under President Kibaki. To hang on to this momentum, we must not allow self seekers to destroy the country, to misuse the youth and above all to create division among ourselves. We have the greatest opportunity today to create employment like never before but unfortunately politics is taking centre stage. We must refuse and take individual responsibility on that which is happening as we watch. I am challenging this Forum to take its rightful responsibility and seek for an issue based debate among all declared candidates. Let us know what they plan to do with: Youth Unemployment Food security Education Health and more. In the US Media has a responsibility to organise town hall debates to allow every citizen to be heard. We are the New Media. We can generate the issues here then use the forum to enhance the political debates. In the absence of anything politicians will always revert to siasa ya kumalizana. Regards Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerryR -----Original Message----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:09:04 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Listers, Having watched a couple of programmes focusing on current political happenings i am left wondering on the role of the media, are some of this media houses engaged in political activism or are they educating the masses?. Why cant media houses be more innovative and focus on debates such as what we had on this list (Ndemo for president). This populist debates centered around opinions are a recipe for chaos. One just needs to look at what happened in Sabatia to know what can happen when this opinion contests are not handled well. We need to evaluate the possible impact of some of this opinion based discussions, they may shore up profits for media houses but divide the country. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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This reminds me of the "public vetting" processes we have witnessed under the new constitution. The political class needs to go through the same type of vetting - open, non-partisan, public debates and scrutiny. That's the style to follow and the voters will chose for themselves! Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Edwin Onchari [eonchari@lynxbits.com] Sent: 09 May 2012 19:47 To: Edith Adera Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Listers/Daktari, I agree that indeed, it is time that the forum took the center stage in generating issues that media can use to create such "town hall" style meetings. Just like in the US for instance, media houses such as NBC, ABC CBS, etc host shows such as "State of the nation, etc" In these shows politicians are taken to task and asked tough questions on where they stand on several issues. They go further and interrogate past political stands of their leaders such as "How & why they voted on certain bills", etc. If this forum spearheaded such an initiative with the support of the media, the political class will stand on notice that they must to steer clear of empty, not so useful and dangerous rhetoric in favor of progressive leadership. I say we go for it, we owe the next generations at least this much...we can do it! Best Regards, Edwin -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of bitange@jambo.co.ke Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 6:02 PM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Barrack, In the front page of the New York Times is Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana bowing out after his defeat in the Republican primary. Sen. Lugar has been in the Senate close to 40 years shaping the US policy. His sins are that he is a moderate as fae as the divide between conservatives and democrats. He was defeated by a far right candidate under the banner of Tea Party within the conservative party. Although the Tea Party is popular, they did not split to form a new party. They are simply re defining the conservative agenda. Our politics has not changed much since we. have never looked beyond our ethnicity. In defence of a single party Moi said multi party will divide the country. And true to his word we are more divided today than we were at independence. At independence we more ideological to the extent that Kaggia leaned more to Odinga than Mboya who was a Kenyatta protege. The younger generation must begin to change this a round issues. This however is not happening. Youth who should be our hope are being used to advance separatist movements such as MRC, Mungiki, Chinkororo etc. These organisations are threatening the economic gains we have made under President Kibaki. To hang on to this momentum, we must not allow self seekers to destroy the country, to misuse the youth and above all to create division among ourselves. We have the greatest opportunity today to create employment like never before but unfortunately politics is taking centre stage. We must refuse and take individual responsibility on that which is happening as we watch. I am challenging this Forum to take its rightful responsibility and seek for an issue based debate among all declared candidates. Let us know what they plan to do with: Youth Unemployment Food security Education Health and more. In the US Media has a responsibility to organise town hall debates to allow every citizen to be heard. We are the New Media. We can generate the issues here then use the forum to enhance the political debates. In the absence of anything politicians will always revert to siasa ya kumalizana. Regards Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerryR -----Original Message----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:09:04 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Listers, Having watched a couple of programmes focusing on current political happenings i am left wondering on the role of the media, are some of this media houses engaged in political activism or are they educating the masses?. Why cant media houses be more innovative and focus on debates such as what we had on this list (Ndemo for president). This populist debates centered around opinions are a recipe for chaos. One just needs to look at what happened in Sabatia to know what can happen when this opinion contests are not handled well. We need to evaluate the possible impact of some of this opinion based discussions, they may shore up profits for media houses but divide the country. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eonchari%40lynxbits.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Bwana Ndemo, The problem is that no new faces are emerging that can help us focus on issues - afew coming up, but not enough. The old/newish-old guards don't know any better! but to do siasa this way. Why do we continue to recycle the same faces!!! The media perpetuates this type of politics instead of challenging the full range of aspirants to discuss ISSUES. Jeff is beginning to do this going county by county - you see new faces and brillant ideas - more of this needs to be done! It helps separate the "chaff" from the "real stuff"! The next elections will bring a new order - integrity, solid & proven track record, a heart for the people etc will be important. Lets see the media challenge aspirants on ISSUES! Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of bitange@jambo.co.ke [bitange@jambo.co.ke] Sent: 09 May 2012 18:01 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Barrack, In the front page of the New York Times is Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana bowing out after his defeat in the Republican primary. Sen. Lugar has been in the Senate close to 40 years shaping the US policy. His sins are that he is a moderate as fae as the divide between conservatives and democrats. He was defeated by a far right candidate under the banner of Tea Party within the conservative party. Although the Tea Party is popular, they did not split to form a new party. They are simply re defining the conservative agenda. Our politics has not changed much since we. have never looked beyond our ethnicity. In defence of a single party Moi said multi party will divide the country. And true to his word we are more divided today than we were at independence. At independence we more ideological to the extent that Kaggia leaned more to Odinga than Mboya who was a Kenyatta protege. The younger generation must begin to change this a round issues. This however is not happening. Youth who should be our hope are being used to advance separatist movements such as MRC, Mungiki, Chinkororo etc. These organisations are threatening the economic gains we have made under President Kibaki. To hang on to this momentum, we must not allow self seekers to destroy the country, to misuse the youth and above all to create division among ourselves. We have the greatest opportunity today to create employment like never before but unfortunately politics is taking centre stage. We must refuse and take individual responsibility on that which is happening as we watch. I am challenging this Forum to take its rightful responsibility and seek for an issue based debate among all declared candidates. Let us know what they plan to do with: Youth Unemployment Food security Education Health and more. In the US Media has a responsibility to organise town hall debates to allow every citizen to be heard. We are the New Media. We can generate the issues here then use the forum to enhance the political debates. In the absence of anything politicians will always revert to siasa ya kumalizana. Regards Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:09:04 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Listers, Having watched a couple of programmes focusing on current political happenings i am left wondering on the role of the media, are some of this media houses engaged in political activism or are they educating the masses?. Why cant media houses be more innovative and focus on debates such as what we had on this list (Ndemo for president). This populist debates centered around opinions are a recipe for chaos. One just needs to look at what happened in Sabatia to know what can happen when this opinion contests are not handled well. We need to evaluate the possible impact of some of this opinion based discussions, they may shore up profits for media houses but divide the country. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eadera%40idrc.or.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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While at it, David Makali is with us on this list, I am sure he is an influencer and could help us achieve this goal, Mr. Makali it would be great to hear your comments since you are already involved in the current scheme of things. I hope he responds. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> Sender: kictanet-bounces+otieno.barrack=gmail.com@lists.kictanet.or.keDate: Wed, 9 May 2012 22:32:18 To: <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Bwana Ndemo, The problem is that no new faces are emerging that can help us focus on issues - afew coming up, but not enough. The old/newish-old guards don't know any better! but to do siasa this way. Why do we continue to recycle the same faces!!! The media perpetuates this type of politics instead of challenging the full range of aspirants to discuss ISSUES. Jeff is beginning to do this going county by county - you see new faces and brillant ideas - more of this needs to be done! It helps separate the "chaff" from the "real stuff"! The next elections will bring a new order - integrity, solid & proven track record, a heart for the people etc will be important. Lets see the media challenge aspirants on ISSUES! Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of bitange@jambo.co.ke [bitange@jambo.co.ke] Sent: 09 May 2012 18:01 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Barrack, In the front page of the New York Times is Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana bowing out after his defeat in the Republican primary. Sen. Lugar has been in the Senate close to 40 years shaping the US policy. His sins are that he is a moderate as fae as the divide between conservatives and democrats. He was defeated by a far right candidate under the banner of Tea Party within the conservative party. Although the Tea Party is popular, they did not split to form a new party. They are simply re defining the conservative agenda. Our politics has not changed much since we. have never looked beyond our ethnicity. In defence of a single party Moi said multi party will divide the country. And true to his word we are more divided today than we were at independence. At independence we more ideological to the extent that Kaggia leaned more to Odinga than Mboya who was a Kenyatta protege. The younger generation must begin to change this a round issues. This however is not happening. Youth who should be our hope are being used to advance separatist movements such as MRC, Mungiki, Chinkororo etc. These organisations are threatening the economic gains we have made under President Kibaki. To hang on to this momentum, we must not allow self seekers to destroy the country, to misuse the youth and above all to create division among ourselves. We have the greatest opportunity today to create employment like never before but unfortunately politics is taking centre stage. We must refuse and take individual responsibility on that which is happening as we watch. I am challenging this Forum to take its rightful responsibility and seek for an issue based debate among all declared candidates. Let us know what they plan to do with: Youth Unemployment Food security Education Health and more. In the US Media has a responsibility to organise town hall debates to allow every citizen to be heard. We are the New Media. We can generate the issues here then use the forum to enhance the political debates. In the absence of anything politicians will always revert to siasa ya kumalizana. Regards Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:09:04 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Listers, Having watched a couple of programmes focusing on current political happenings i am left wondering on the role of the media, are some of this media houses engaged in political activism or are they educating the masses?. Why cant media houses be more innovative and focus on debates such as what we had on this list (Ndemo for president). This populist debates centered around opinions are a recipe for chaos. One just needs to look at what happened in Sabatia to know what can happen when this opinion contests are not handled well. We need to evaluate the possible impact of some of this opinion based discussions, they may shore up profits for media houses but divide the country. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Hi Barrack, We'd like to offer our Broadcast, Film & Music Africa Conference in Nairobi over 10-11 July as a platform to pursue these issues in greater depth. An overview of the event is attached. You and others in this group would be welcome to develop a conference session or sessions that constructively take the debate forward and helps develop the right professional and business models for the new electronic media era. Regards, Sean Moroney Chairman AITEC Africa seanm@aitecafrica.com UK Tel: +44(0)1480-880774 UK Fax: +44(0)1480-880765 UK Mobile: +44(0)7973-499224 Kenya Mobile: +254(0)721-845674 Skype: seanmoroney www.aitecafrica.com -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+seanm=aitecafrica.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+seanm=aitecafrica.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of otieno.barrack@gmail.com Sent: 09 May 2012 23:04 To: Sean Moroney Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement While at it, David Makali is with us on this list, I am sure he is an influencer and could help us achieve this goal, Mr. Makali it would be great to hear your comments since you are already involved in the current scheme of things. I hope he responds. Sent from my BlackBerry(r) -----Original Message----- From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> Sender: kictanet-bounces+otieno.barrack=gmail.com@lists.kictanet.or.keDate: Wed, 9 May 2012 22:32:18 To: <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Bwana Ndemo, The problem is that no new faces are emerging that can help us focus on issues - afew coming up, but not enough. The old/newish-old guards don't know any better! but to do siasa this way. Why do we continue to recycle the same faces!!! The media perpetuates this type of politics instead of challenging the full range of aspirants to discuss ISSUES. Jeff is beginning to do this going county by county - you see new faces and brillant ideas - more of this needs to be done! It helps separate the "chaff" from the "real stuff"! The next elections will bring a new order - integrity, solid & proven track record, a heart for the people etc will be important. Lets see the media challenge aspirants on ISSUES! Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of bitange@jambo.co.ke [bitange@jambo.co.ke] Sent: 09 May 2012 18:01 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Barrack, In the front page of the New York Times is Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana bowing out after his defeat in the Republican primary. Sen. Lugar has been in the Senate close to 40 years shaping the US policy. His sins are that he is a moderate as fae as the divide between conservatives and democrats. He was defeated by a far right candidate under the banner of Tea Party within the conservative party. Although the Tea Party is popular, they did not split to form a new party. They are simply re defining the conservative agenda. Our politics has not changed much since we. have never looked beyond our ethnicity. In defence of a single party Moi said multi party will divide the country. And true to his word we are more divided today than we were at independence. At independence we more ideological to the extent that Kaggia leaned more to Odinga than Mboya who was a Kenyatta protege. The younger generation must begin to change this a round issues. This however is not happening. Youth who should be our hope are being used to advance separatist movements such as MRC, Mungiki, Chinkororo etc. These organisations are threatening the economic gains we have made under President Kibaki. To hang on to this momentum, we must not allow self seekers to destroy the country, to misuse the youth and above all to create division among ourselves. We have the greatest opportunity today to create employment like never before but unfortunately politics is taking centre stage. We must refuse and take individual responsibility on that which is happening as we watch. I am challenging this Forum to take its rightful responsibility and seek for an issue based debate among all declared candidates. Let us know what they plan to do with: Youth Unemployment Food security Education Health and more. In the US Media has a responsibility to organise town hall debates to allow every citizen to be heard. We are the New Media. We can generate the issues here then use the forum to enhance the political debates. In the absence of anything politicians will always revert to siasa ya kumalizana. Regards Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry(r) -----Original Message----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:09:04 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Listers, Having watched a couple of programmes focusing on current political happenings i am left wondering on the role of the media, are some of this media houses engaged in political activism or are they educating the masses?. Why cant media houses be more innovative and focus on debates such as what we had on this list (Ndemo for president). This populist debates centered around opinions are a recipe for chaos. One just needs to look at what happened in Sabatia to know what can happen when this opinion contests are not handled well. We need to evaluate the possible impact of some of this opinion based discussions, they may shore up profits for media houses but divide the country. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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I am guessing ,majorly, the reason why we are not seeing any new faces is because the people that would be interested in taking up leadership roles see it as an undertaking in futility....how does one take up "ethnic warlords" who use funeral meetings to make grand announcements-Sadly this is fodder for Media houses! It makes news headlines (Tv and Print) and it is profitable. On the other hand, a potential candidate that is articulating issues that matter to Kenyans, will be lucky to get a mention on the middle lower column of page 6/7 of the papers, and a scrolling text at the bottom of your Tv during headline highlights- their ideas won't even make to the tail end of prime time news! Best Regards, Edwin -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:32 PM To: Edwin Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Bwana Ndemo, The problem is that no new faces are emerging that can help us focus on issues - afew coming up, but not enough. The old/newish-old guards don't know any better! but to do siasa this way. Why do we continue to recycle the same faces!!! The media perpetuates this type of politics instead of challenging the full range of aspirants to discuss ISSUES. Jeff is beginning to do this going county by county - you see new faces and brillant ideas - more of this needs to be done! It helps separate the "chaff" from the "real stuff"! The next elections will bring a new order - integrity, solid & proven track record, a heart for the people etc will be important. Lets see the media challenge aspirants on ISSUES! Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of bitange@jambo.co.ke [bitange@jambo.co.ke] Sent: 09 May 2012 18:01 To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Barrack, In the front page of the New York Times is Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana bowing out after his defeat in the Republican primary. Sen. Lugar has been in the Senate close to 40 years shaping the US policy. His sins are that he is a moderate as fae as the divide between conservatives and democrats. He was defeated by a far right candidate under the banner of Tea Party within the conservative party. Although the Tea Party is popular, they did not split to form a new party. They are simply re defining the conservative agenda. Our politics has not changed much since we. have never looked beyond our ethnicity. In defence of a single party Moi said multi party will divide the country. And true to his word we are more divided today than we were at independence. At independence we more ideological to the extent that Kaggia leaned more to Odinga than Mboya who was a Kenyatta protege. The younger generation must begin to change this a round issues. This however is not happening. Youth who should be our hope are being used to advance separatist movements such as MRC, Mungiki, Chinkororo etc. These organisations are threatening the economic gains we have made under President Kibaki. To hang on to this momentum, we must not allow self seekers to destroy the country, to misuse the youth and above all to create division among ourselves. We have the greatest opportunity today to create employment like never before but unfortunately politics is taking centre stage. We must refuse and take individual responsibility on that which is happening as we watch. I am challenging this Forum to take its rightful responsibility and seek for an issue based debate among all declared candidates. Let us know what they plan to do with: Youth Unemployment Food security Education Health and more. In the US Media has a responsibility to organise town hall debates to allow every citizen to be heard. We are the New Media. We can generate the issues here then use the forum to enhance the political debates. In the absence of anything politicians will always revert to siasa ya kumalizana. Regards Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerryR -----Original Message----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.keDate: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:09:04 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] The role of Media in political developement Listers, Having watched a couple of programmes focusing on current political happenings i am left wondering on the role of the media, are some of this media houses engaged in political activism or are they educating the masses?. Why cant media houses be more innovative and focus on debates such as what we had on this list (Ndemo for president). This populist debates centered around opinions are a recipe for chaos. One just needs to look at what happened in Sabatia to know what can happen when this opinion contests are not handled well. 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I am challenging
Dr. Ndemo, Barrack, Edith, Charles et al Very interesting debate. this Forum to take its rightful responsibility and seek for an issue based debate among all declared candidates. Let us know what they plan to do with:
Youth
Unemployment
Food security
Education
Health and more.
Dr. Ndemo and listers, if you remember KICTANet in 2007 (April-Dec) facilitated debate on mainstreaming ICT Agenda in the 2007 electioneering debate. This was informed by KICTANet’s mission of all round development of ICT as a tool for national development and empowerment. In the same breadth, KICTANet can do this in 2012. As the parties formulate the issues to constitute their manifestos, this is the right time to force debate on political parties on articulation of key issues that Dr. Ndemo has highlighted.
In the US Media has a responsibility to organise town hall debates to allow every citizen to be heard. We are the New Media. We can generate the issues here then use the forum to enhance the political debates. In the absence of anything politicians will always revert to siasa ya kumalizana.
Many of the Presidential candidates are already using social networks to reach out to Kenyans. I am not sure though that they do the updates themselves or they have assistants doing the updates cause at times the responses are not exactly coherent. I and some listers have for example raised issues with some Presidential Candidates on twitter with no response. We could discuss some of these issues here online (structured debates as is our style), but I think we should still try and organize townhall debates, and bring together key political leadership and political parties to discuss their own perspectives of the critical issues that affect this nation, and ofcourse how they will position ICT as key component for national growth. KICTANet is a multistakeholder forum that could contribute to political parties drafting forward-looking policy commitments and develop strategies through ideas generated. And ofcourse just to let the leadership know that we are watching and expect them to be accountable to the citizens of this country. And since we have media represented here, we would expect that they would carry the debate/issues on their other platforms (print/broadcast) so that Kenyans who are not online or present in townhalls can also get to see/hear what the political leadership holds for this country. We will need resources for the townhall meetings though. Any takers? Dr. Ndemo, Edith, Others? RgdsGG
Regards
Ndemo.
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Listers,
Having watched a couple of programmes focusing on current political happenings i am left wondering on the role of the media, are some of this media houses engaged in political activism or are they educating the masses?. Why cant media houses be more innovative and focus on debates such as what we had on this list (Ndemo for president). This populist debates centered around opinions are a recipe for chaos. One just needs to look at what happened in Sabatia to know what can happen when this opinion contests are not handled well. We need to evaluate the possible impact of some of this opinion based discussions, they may shore up profits for media houses but divide the country.
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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participants (7)
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Barrack Otieno -
bitange＠jambo.co.ke -
Edith Adera -
Edwin Onchari -
Grace Githaiga -
otieno.barrack＠gmail.com
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Sean Moroney