Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/ Commeding Kenyalaw.org people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc... ------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote:
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------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote:
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On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender...
Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company.
We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage?
Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests!
But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed!
Merry Xmas.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible.
sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto: kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto: ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
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@ Ohaga, ICT Researcher Lest we forget 1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secret... 2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State... The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date. Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done. The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded. Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it? The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses? Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:- The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations. This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> wrote:
i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/
Commeding Kenyalaw.org people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc...
------------------------------
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote:
-2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1
-------------------------------
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote:
+1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1
Regards
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On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender...
Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company.
We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage?
Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests!
But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed!
Merry Xmas.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible.
sad though.
On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto: kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of
------------------------------ the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major
towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto: ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country
cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world
will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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Ali, I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses. Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence. Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources? Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To: ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @ Ohaga, ICT Researcher Lest we forget 1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secret... 2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State... The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date. Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done. The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded. Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it? The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses? Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:- The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations. This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com<mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com>> wrote: i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/ Commeding Kenyalaw.org<http://Kenyalaw.org> people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc... ------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote: -2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1 ------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote: +1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1 Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke<mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke>> wrote: This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender... Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company. We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage? Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests! But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed! Merry Xmas. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> wrote: Wambua The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'. Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved? History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding? I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>> wrote: They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities. The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening. If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible. sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> wrote: @Wambua jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case. One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-) walu. ------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote: Bernard, CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution. Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke><mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke> From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Christopher, I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask. Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone? Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>]<mailto:[mailto: kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com><mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit. The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue. Best regards Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke><mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke><mailto: ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> wrote: Brinkmanship. To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:- 1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed.. +1 Ali Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy. Where have we go we wrong? 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@Wambua Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then. @ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
Ali,
I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses.
Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence.
Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources? Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To: ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@ Ohaga, ICT Researcher
Lest we forget
1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secret...
2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State...
The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date.
Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done.
The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded.
Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it?
The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses?
Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:-
The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations.
This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done.
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> wrote:
i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/
Commeding Kenyalaw.org people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc...
------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote:
-2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1 -------------------------------
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote: +1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1 Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender... Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company. We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage? Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests! But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed! Merry Xmas. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Wambua The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'. Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved? History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding? I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote: They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities. The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening. If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible. sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Bernard, CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution. Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke> From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Christopher, I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask. Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone? Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto: kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue. Best regards Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto: ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Brinkmanship. To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country
@Wambua jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case. One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-) walu. ------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote: the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit. that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed.. +1 Ali Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy. Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. twitter.com/lordmwesh<http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
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The interesting issue here is that in 2013, an "independent" Kenya media is totally unable to accurately report on its own issues. Yes, there may be issues such as the prominence of a group of Chinese Investors in setting up Signet, PAG and StarTimes, and as Christopher has pointed out, the government has tried to meet broadcasters halfway. All these received minimal coverage, with the media believing ignoring the whole issue would make it go away. Rather than factual reporting and having a sense of direction, the media, of all institutions, has opted for lies, court cases and childish boycotts. It is no wonder that majority of the population barley understands digital migration and the circus behind it. Clearly, the issue here is not the migration. This is the same media that we expect to counter balance the government and to be the societal watchman. It is also of no surprise that the government is able to pass harmful laws and seems to get away with anything. The president even feels comfortable that he does not read newspapers. Let us all hope that digital migration will actually result in actual media houses and save the industry from such shame and clulessness. On Thursday, 26 December 2013, Ali Hussein wrote:
@Wambua
Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then.
@ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree.
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
Ali,
I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses.
Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence.
Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources?
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. *From: *Ali Hussein *Sent: *Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM *To: *ICT Researcher *Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@ Ohaga, ICT Researcher
Lest we forget
1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secret...
2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State...
The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date.
Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done.
The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded.
Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it?
The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet
-- with Regards: blog.denniskioko.com <http://www.denniskioko.com/>
Dennis, well put. From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Dennis Kioko Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:38 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling The interesting issue here is that in 2013, an "independent" Kenya media is totally unable to accurately report on its own issues. Yes, there may be issues such as the prominence of a group of Chinese Investors in setting up Signet, PAG and StarTimes, and as Christopher has pointed out, the government has tried to meet broadcasters halfway. All these received minimal coverage, with the media believing ignoring the whole issue would make it go away. Rather than factual reporting and having a sense of direction, the media, of all institutions, has opted for lies, court cases and childish boycotts. It is no wonder that majority of the population barley understands digital migration and the circus behind it. Clearly, the issue here is not the migration. This is the same media that we expect to counter balance the government and to be the societal watchman. It is also of no surprise that the government is able to pass harmful laws and seems to get away with anything. The president even feels comfortable that he does not read newspapers. Let us all hope that digital migration will actually result in actual media houses and save the industry from such shame and clulessness. On Thursday, 26 December 2013, Ali Hussein wrote: @Wambua Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then. @ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote: Ali, I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses. Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence. Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources? Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To: ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @ Ohaga, ICT Researcher Lest we forget 1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secret ary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence# <http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secre tary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence> 2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State -registers-Signet-subsidiary--/-/539550/1384608/-/m5c6khz/-/index.html The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date. Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done. The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded. Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it? The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet -- with Regards: blog.denniskioko.com <http://www.denniskioko.com/>
Ali, It’s no secret am for the digital migration. Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move? These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya. What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements. Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms? If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom. BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast. Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace. Regards PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point. From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @Wambua Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then. @ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote: Ali, I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses. Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence. Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources? Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To: ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @ Ohaga, ICT Researcher Lest we forget 1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secret... <http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secretary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence> 2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State... The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date. Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done. The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded. Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it? The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses? Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:- The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations. This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> wrote: i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/ Commeding Kenyalaw.org people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc... ------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote: -2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1 ------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote: +1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1 Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender... Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company. We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage? Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests! But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed! Merry Xmas. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Wambua The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'. Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved? History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding? I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote: They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities. The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening. If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible. sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: @Wambua jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case. One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-) walu. ------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote: Bernard, CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution. Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke> From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Christopher, I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask. Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone? Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto: kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit. The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue. Best regards Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto: ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Brinkmanship. To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:- 1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed.. +1 Ali Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy. Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. 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Bernard Point(s) well taken. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:55 PM, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
Ali,
It’s no secret am for the digital migration.
Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move?
These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya.
What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements.
Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms?
If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom.
BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast.
Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace.
Regards
PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point.
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@Wambua
Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then.
@ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree.
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
Ali,
I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses.
Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence.
Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources? Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To: ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@ Ohaga, ICT Researcher
Lest we forget
1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secret...
2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State...
The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date.
Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done.
The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded.
Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it?
The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses?
Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:-
The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations.
This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done.
Ali Hussein
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On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> wrote:
i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/
Commeding Kenyalaw.org people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc...
------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote:
-2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1
------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote:
+1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1
Regards
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On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender...
Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company.
We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage?
Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests!
But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed!
Merry Xmas.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
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"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible.
sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto: kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto: ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
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Quick one, Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog? While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform. For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that.... Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
Ali,
It’s no secret am for the digital migration.
Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move?
These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya.
What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements.
Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms?
If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom.
BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast.
Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace.
Regards
PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point.
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Ali Hussein *Sent:* Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM *To:* bkioko@bernsoft.com *Cc:* Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@Wambua
Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then.
@ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree.
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
Ali,
I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses.
Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence.
Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources?
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
*From: *Ali Hussein
*Sent: *Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM
*To: *ICT Researcher
*Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
*Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@ Ohaga, ICT Researcher
Lest we forget
2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State...
The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date.
Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done.
The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded.
Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it?
The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses?
Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:-
The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations.
This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done.
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> wrote:
i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/
Commeding Kenyalaw.org people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc...
------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote:
-2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1
-------------------------------
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote:
+1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1
Regards
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who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender...
Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand
you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other
hand a foreign company.
We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national
broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain
button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious
security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid
requirements stage?
Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender
could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that
generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks.
With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line
their pockets quick. Damn national interests!
But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number
of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed!
Merry Xmas.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies
Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign
company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when
African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In
fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit
to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive
bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually
be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on
honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind
legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and
threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would
hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I
say very irresponsible.
sad though.
On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like
this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like
its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder
what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish
they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the
discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua
Manager - Communications
Consumer and Public Affairs Department
Communications Commission of Kenya
P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800
Tel: +254 20 4242209
info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke <info@cck.go.ke>>
www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com<bkioko@bernsoft.com> ]
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM
To: Wambua, Christopher
Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=
bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto:
kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf
Of Wambua, Christopher
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM
To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com <bkioko@bernsoft.com>>
Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal
distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of
the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the
licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent
tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public
Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any
merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major
towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV
broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a
subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua
Manager - Communications
Consumer and Public Affairs Department
Communications Commission of Kenya
P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800
Tel: +254 20 4242209
info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke <info@cck.go.ke>>
www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=
cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM
To: Wambua, Christopher
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:
ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country
that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company
2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong?
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world
will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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Waithaka, Quick notes.. The advantages of remaining analog are only with the existing broadcasters - IN MY VIEW!. Even the viewers would rather not watch unclear pictures without sufficient choices/options. 1. Remaining Analog means we cannot have any more TV stations in Nairobi especially. There are no more frequencies to be issued by CCK. This means TV broadcast remains a cartel really. Moving to Digital however means we can have MANY more TV stations - as at a month ago, I checked with CCK and they had "licensed" over 60 digital TV stations of which about 20 were already live. 2. Moving to digital means ALL TV stations are on same platform and level - on that decoder. It's the quality and relevance of the content that will matter to the viewer. Same way DSTV has many channels but you know which ones have what you want. This creates major fears for "lazy stations" that have been feeding Kenyans with what they want and disregarding everything else. In their current state, many of these stations will lose out to younger more innovative broadcasters. Take for example - its been 10yrs since people started sending SMS to stations during news - why are we still sending the SMS in the same exact way? Why haven't these stations made any further innovation? When a younger broadcaster changes this to SMS-TV-2.0 what will that mean to older ones? 3. December is a revenue earner - many advertisements run during this time. Disrupting viewership in any way means advertisers may hold ad revenue. Infact this revenue issue am told is mentioned as a reason for resisting the change. However, it's these same media owners that proposed December (according to CS Information). This part really makes me want to laugh! 4. In real sense, it will indeed cost Kenyans that wish to watch tv some money to move to digital (at least that one time cost for the set top box). This point is clear BUT as a country we have had 7 years to preach this. Why are they now telling us Kenyans are not ready or able? They failed to run TV and Print adverts that CCK was paying for to educate viewer. We now have over 1million set top boxes lying somewhere yet in 5hrs, there will be a rush and scrabble. Although this point is acknowledged, the reason I quickly dismiss it is because in our nature as Kenyans, we have a habit of waiting for the last minute or "when we really have to". The issue of people that cannot afford the device is valid but only to some extend - when are we going to ensure everyone can afford a set top box so that we can migrate? 5. If you were around when mobiles made their entry into Kenya, you could not actuallyl buy a mobile phone for less than 10k - most going to 30k..i saw numbers grow from 10..500..900,000, 1.5m.. now you know how large these numbers are like. I am of the opinion that Kenyans will indeed move to digital to watch tv. There might be an inconvenience here and there..but they will. Remember Michuki rules? We complied..for the better. Mututho? We are complying.for the better. Even digital we will comply.for our better! Anyway, I do agree that the media houses have issues that need dialogue, but I also understand (from the CS) that they have consistently shut the dialogue! I could be wrong - but I am an Digital Migration Evangelist - self appointed - so forgive me if I am. Regards From: Ngigi Waithaka [mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke] Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 7:02 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; Consumer and Public Affairs Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Quick one, Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog? While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform. For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that.... Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote: Ali, It's no secret am for the digital migration. Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move? These media houses were running in 2006..2009 . 2013. so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya. What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements - even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements. Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal - but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms? If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom. BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast. Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet - and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace. Regards PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point. From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bbkioko> =bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @Wambua Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then. @ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote: Ali, I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses. Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence. Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources? Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To: ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @ Ohaga, ICT Researcher Lest we forget 1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secret ary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence# <http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secre tary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence> 2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State -registers-Signet-subsidiary--/-/539550/1384608/-/m5c6khz/-/index.html The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date. Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done. The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded. Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it? The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses? Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:- The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations. This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> wrote: i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/ Commeding Kenyalaw.org people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc... ------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote: -2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1 ------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote: +1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1 Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender... Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company. We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage? Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests! But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed! Merry Xmas. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Wambua The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'. Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved? History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding? I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote: They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities. The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening. If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible. sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: @Wambua jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case. One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-) walu. ------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote: Bernard, CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution. Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke> From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Christopher, I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask. Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone? Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bbkioko> = bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto: kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit. The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue. Best regards Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bwambua> = cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto: ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Brinkmanship. To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:- 1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed.. +1 Ali Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy. Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. twitter.com/lordmwesh<http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bkioko%40bernsoft.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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i think their major compliant is the limiting of the number of signal distributors. they had hoped to also be signal distributors -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
The tender for the 2nd signal distribution licence was an open one. And indeed some of the local media set up a consortium through which they submitted a bid. Their bid was however unsuccessful. If they had put in an attractive bid, they could have improved their chances of winning. Even if CCK were to float another tender for signal distribution restricted only to local firms, interested companies would have to compete for the licence. Firms that submit poor bids would still lose. Local firms need to improve their capacity in responding to government tenders. If they don't, they will continue losing out to international firms even in businesses where they have proven expertise. Wambua Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:22 PM To: Ngigi Waithaka Reply To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling i think their major compliant is the limiting of the number of signal distributors. they had hoped to also be signal distributors -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> ________________________________ From: Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke>; To: <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 4:01:53 PM Quick one, Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog? While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform. For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that.... Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote: Ali, It’s no secret am for the digital migration. Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move? These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya. What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements. Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms? If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom. BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast. Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace. Regards PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point. From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @Wambua Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then. @ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote: Ali, I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses. Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence. Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources? Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To: ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @ Ohaga, ICT Researcher Lest we forget 1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secretary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence#<http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secretary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence> 2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State... The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date. Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done. The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded. Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it? The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses? Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:- The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations. This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> wrote: i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/ Commeding Kenyalaw.org<http://Kenyalaw.org> people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc... ------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote: -2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1 ------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote: +1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1 Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender... Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company. We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage? Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests! But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed! Merry Xmas. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Wambua The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'. Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved? History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding? I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote: They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities. The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening. If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible. sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: @Wambua jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case. One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-) walu. ------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote: Bernard, CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution. Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke> From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Christopher, I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask. Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone? Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto: kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit. The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue. Best regards Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto: ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Brinkmanship. To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:- 1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed.. +1 Ali Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy. Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. 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why was the number of signal distributors limited to two? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
Because of frequency spectrum limitations. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:56 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Reply To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling why was the number of signal distributors limited to two? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> ________________________________ From: Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke>; To: <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:43:55 PM The tender for the 2nd signal distribution licence was an open one. And indeed some of the local media set up a consortium through which they submitted a bid. Their bid was however unsuccessful. If they had put in an attractive bid, they could have improved their chances of winning. Even if CCK were to float another tender for signal distribution restricted only to local firms, interested companies would have to compete for the licence. Firms that submit poor bids would still lose. Local firms need to improve their capacity in responding to government tenders. If they don't, they will continue losing out to international firms even in businesses where they have proven expertise. Wambua Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:22 PM To: Ngigi Waithaka Reply To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling i think their major compliant is the limiting of the number of signal distributors. they had hoped to also be signal distributors -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> ________________________________ From: Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke>; To: <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 4:01:53 PM Quick one, Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog? While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform. For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that.... Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote: Ali, It’s no secret am for the digital migration. Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move? These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya. What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements. Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms? If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom. BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast. Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace. Regards PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point. From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @Wambua Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then. @ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote: Ali, I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses. Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence. Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources? Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To: ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @ Ohaga, ICT Researcher Lest we forget 1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secretary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence#<http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secretary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence> 2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State... The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date. Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done. The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded. Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it? The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses? Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:- The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations. This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> wrote: i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/ Commeding Kenyalaw.org<http://Kenyalaw.org> people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc... ------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote: -2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1 ------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote: +1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1 Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender... Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company. We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage? Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests! But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed! Merry Xmas. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Wambua The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'. Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved? History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding? I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote: They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities. The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening. If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible. sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: @Wambua jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case. One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-) walu. ------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote: Bernard, CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution. Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke> From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Christopher, I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask. Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone? Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto: kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit. The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue. Best regards Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto: ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Brinkmanship. To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:- 1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed.. +1 Ali Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy. Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. 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Wambua, I see stations now scrolling messages and one saying they are not against the migration and in fact they support it, and that their concern is “…not enough set top boxes have been acquired or that adequate stocks are available for acquisition by viewers”. I only wish they started scrolling this a month ago… What is you comment on this statement currently scrolling on screens? Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:21 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Because of frequency spectrum limitations. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:56 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Reply To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling why was the number of signal distributors limited to two? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> _____ From: Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke>; To: <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:43:55 PM The tender for the 2nd signal distribution licence was an open one. And indeed some of the local media set up a consortium through which they submitted a bid. Their bid was however unsuccessful. If they had put in an attractive bid, they could have improved their chances of winning. Even if CCK were to float another tender for signal distribution restricted only to local firms, interested companies would have to compete for the licence. Firms that submit poor bids would still lose. Local firms need to improve their capacity in responding to government tenders. If they don't, they will continue losing out to international firms even in businesses where they have proven expertise. Wambua Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:22 PM To: Ngigi Waithaka Reply To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling i think their major compliant is the limiting of the number of signal distributors. they had hoped to also be signal distributors -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> _____ From: Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke>; To: <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 4:01:53 PM Quick one, Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog? While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform. For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that.... Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote: Ali, It’s no secret am for the digital migration. Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move? These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya. What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements. Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms? If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom. BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast. Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace. Regards PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point. From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @Wambua Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then. @ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote: Ali, I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses. Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence. Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources? Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To: ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @ Ohaga, ICT Researcher Lest we forget 1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secret... <http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secretary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence> 2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State... The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date. Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done. The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded. Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it? The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses? Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:- The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations. This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> wrote: i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/ Commeding Kenyalaw.org people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc... ------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote: -2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1 ------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote: +1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1 Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender... Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company. We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage? Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests! But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed! Merry Xmas. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Wambua The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'. Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved? History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding? I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote: They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities. The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening. If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible. sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: @Wambua jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case. One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-) walu. ------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote: Bernard, CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution. Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke <mailto:info@cck.go.ke%3cmailto:info@cck.go.ke> <mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke> From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Christopher, I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask. Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone? Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <mailto:bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]%3cmailto:[mailto> <mailto:[mailto: kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com <mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com%3cmailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> <mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit. The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue. Best regards Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke <mailto:info@cck.go.ke%3cmailto:info@cck.go.ke> <mailto:info@cck.go.ke> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto: ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Brinkmanship. To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:- 1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed.. +1 Ali Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy. Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. twitter.com/lordmwesh<http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bkioko%40bernsoft.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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@wambua, I guess my question is on the issue of the 3rd signal distibution license.. Why not award it to the players crying foul and asking for it? Might it be because the two awardees could not survive without content from these players if they focused their content on their own distribution network? Might that explain why Digital migration has not taken off as effectively (because it lacks prime movers). and to the Media Houses.. Were you soo sure you would win on an extended technicality that the ruling caught you off guard? at what point were you planning to shift focus from protecting turf to getting into the formidable arena of competing in a crowded arena? On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] < bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
Wambua,
I see stations now scrolling messages and one saying they are not against the migration and in fact they support it, and that their concern is “…not enough set top boxes have been acquired or that adequate stocks are available for acquisition by viewers”.
I only wish they started scrolling this a month ago…
What is you comment on this statement currently scrolling on screens?
Regards
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Wambua, Christopher *Sent:* Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:21 PM *To:* bkioko@bernsoft.com
*Cc:* Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Because of frequency spectrum limitations.
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
*From: *Watila Alex
*Sent: *Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:56 PM
*To: *Wambua, Christopher
*Reply To: *awatila@yahoo.co.uk
*Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
*Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
why was the number of signal distributors limited to two? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>
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*From: *Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke>; *To: *<awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; *Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling *Sent: *Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:43:55 PM
The tender for the 2nd signal distribution licence was an open one. And indeed some of the local media set up a consortium through which they submitted a bid. Their bid was however unsuccessful.
If they had put in an attractive bid, they could have improved their chances of winning. Even if CCK were to float another tender for signal distribution restricted only to local firms, interested companies would have to compete for the licence. Firms that submit poor bids would still lose.
Local firms need to improve their capacity in responding to government tenders. If they don't, they will continue losing out to international firms even in businesses where they have proven expertise.
Wambua
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
*From: *Watila Alex
*Sent: *Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:22 PM
*To: *Ngigi Waithaka
*Reply To: *awatila@yahoo.co.uk
*Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
*Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
i think their major compliant is the limiting of the number of signal distributors. they had hoped to also be signal distributors
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*From: *Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke>; *To: *<awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; *Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling *Sent: *Thu, Dec 26, 2013 4:01:53 PM
Quick one,
Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog?
While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform.
For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that....
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" < bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
Ali,
It’s no secret am for the digital migration.
Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move?
These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya.
What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements.
Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms?
If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom.
BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast.
Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace.
Regards
PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point.
*From:* kictanet [ mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke<kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] *On Behalf Of *Ali Hussein *Sent:* Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM *To:* bkioko@bernsoft.com *Cc:* Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@Wambua
Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then.
@ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree.
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
Ali,
I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses.
Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence.
Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources?
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
*From: *Ali Hussein
*Sent: *Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM
*To: *ICT Researcher
*Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
*Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@ Ohaga, ICT Researcher
Lest we forget
2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State...
The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date.
Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done.
The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded.
Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it?
The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses?
Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:-
The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations.
This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done.
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> wrote:
i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/
Commeding Kenyalaw.org people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc...
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-2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1
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On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote:
+1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one
who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender...
Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand
you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other
hand a foreign company.
We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national
broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain
button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious
security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid
requirements stage?
Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender
could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that
generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks.
With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line
their pockets quick. Damn national interests!
But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number
of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed!
Merry Xmas.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies
Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign
company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when
African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In
fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit
to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive
bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually
be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on
honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind
legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and
threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would
hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I
say very irresponsible.
sad though.
On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like
this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like
its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder
what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish
they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the
discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
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On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua
Manager - Communications
Consumer and Public Affairs Department
Communications Commission of Kenya
P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800
Tel: +254 20 4242209
info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke>
www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com<bkioko@bernsoft.com> ]
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM
To: Wambua, Christopher
Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=
bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto:
kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf
Of Wambua, Christopher
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM
To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>
Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal
distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of
the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the
licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent
tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public
Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any
merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major
towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV
broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a
subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua
Manager - Communications
Consumer and Public Affairs Department
Communications Commission of Kenya
P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800
Tel: +254 20 4242209
info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke>
www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=
cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM
To: Wambua, Christopher
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:
ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country
that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company
2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong?
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world
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Thanks Steve, The question you raise to Mr Wambua has been answered on this thread: there is currently not enough spectrum to licence a third operator . Let me attempt a layman's answer to your second question. Many an Editor/Correspondent from the so called mainstream media are on this list. Their silence on such a topical issue is telling of one of the major ills besseting our media industry: one way- (as opposed to what I call discourse-) journalism. One way journalism prefers to give information in/on its own way/terms but quite shy in hard-talk engagement. When you dialogue with some of our Editors, they bemoan the loss of professionalism, largely due to 'censorship from inside'. Many of what they would write on such a 'sensitive' issue is 'edited' by a non editor sitting much higher up. The irony is that this is part of what is killing the mainstream media. Engaged viewer/reader-ship has little or no time for a 130-paged newspaper, or some evening outdated screen verbiage. I do this in my private capacity from my Land's end village with no TV signals and does not receive 130-paged newspapers. We though envision additional community ICT centres around schools and the only one available is over stretched. Omo From: Collins Areba | Tel +254 707 750 788 | twitter @brainiacKE [mailto:arebacollins@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:19 PM To: Omo, John Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @wambua, I guess my question is on the issue of the 3rd signal distibution license.. Why not award it to the players crying foul and asking for it? Might it be because the two awardees could not survive without content from these players if they focused their content on their own distribution network? Might that explain why Digital migration has not taken off as effectively (because it lacks prime movers). and to the Media Houses.. Were you soo sure you would win on an extended technicality that the ruling caught you off guard? at what point were you planning to shift focus from protecting turf to getting into the formidable arena of competing in a crowded arena? On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] <bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>> wrote: Wambua, I see stations now scrolling messages and one saying they are not against the migration and in fact they support it, and that their concern is “…not enough set top boxes have been acquired or that adequate stocks are available for acquisition by viewers”. I only wish they started scrolling this a month ago… What is you comment on this statement currently scrolling on screens? Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bbkioko>=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:21 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Because of frequency spectrum limitations. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:56 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Reply To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling why was the number of signal distributors limited to two? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> ________________________________ From: Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke<mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke>>; To: <awatila@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk>>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke<mailto:CPA@cck.go.ke>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:43:55 PM The tender for the 2nd signal distribution licence was an open one. And indeed some of the local media set up a consortium through which they submitted a bid. Their bid was however unsuccessful. If they had put in an attractive bid, they could have improved their chances of winning. Even if CCK were to float another tender for signal distribution restricted only to local firms, interested companies would have to compete for the licence. Firms that submit poor bids would still lose. Local firms need to improve their capacity in responding to government tenders. If they don't, they will continue losing out to international firms even in businesses where they have proven expertise. Wambua Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:22 PM To: Ngigi Waithaka Reply To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling i think their major compliant is the limiting of the number of signal distributors. they had hoped to also be signal distributors -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> ________________________________ From: Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke<mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke>>; To: <awatila@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk>>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke<mailto:CPA@cck.go.ke>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 4:01:53 PM Quick one, Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog? While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform. For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that.... Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>> wrote: Ali, It’s no secret am for the digital migration. Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move? These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya. What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements. Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms? If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom. BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast. Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace. Regards PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point. From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @Wambua Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then. @ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke<mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke>> wrote: Ali, I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses. Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence. Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources? Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To: ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @ Ohaga, ICT Researcher Lest we forget 1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secretary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence#<http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secretary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence> 2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State... The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date. Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done. The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded. Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it? The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses? Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:- The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations. This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com<mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com>> wrote: i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/ Commeding Kenyalaw.org<http://Kenyalaw.org> people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc... ------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote: -2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1 ------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote: +1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1 Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke<mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke>> wrote: This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender... Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company. We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage? Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests! But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed! Merry Xmas. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> wrote: Wambua The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'. Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved? History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding? I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>> wrote: They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities. The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening. If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible. sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> wrote: @Wambua jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case. One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-) walu. ------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote: Bernard, CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution. Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke%3cmailto:info@cck.go.ke>> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke> From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Christopher, I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask. Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone? Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bbkioko>= bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto<mailto:bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]%3cmailto:[mailto>: kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com%3cmailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit. The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue. Best regards Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke%3cmailto:info@cck.go.ke>> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bwambua>= cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke><mailto: ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> wrote: Brinkmanship. To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:- 1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed.. +1 Ali Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy. Where have we go we wrong? 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On Thu, 2013-12-26 at 21:49 +0000, Omo, John wrote:
Thanks Steve, The question you raise to Mr Wambua has been answered on this thread: there is currently not enough spectrum to licence a third operator .
I don't understand the "not enough spectrum" position. Technically speaking, 1 - with Analogue switched off - there will be more unused spectrum. I'm sure plans are being made as to how it will be used though. 2 - The two licensed holders presumably have enough spectrum to both distribute and broadcast all current TV stations - plus many, many more.. I guess the issue is TV signal producers (content) would rather distribute and broadcast (control) their own signal rather than enrich and be held hostage (unknown performance/censored) by a third party? That's a familiar argument.
Let me attempt a layman's answer to your second question. Many an Editor/Correspondent from the so called mainstream media are on this list. Their silence on such a topical issue is telling of one of the major ills besseting our media industry: one way- (as opposed to what I call discourse-) journalism. One way journalism prefers to give information in/on its own way/terms but quite shy in hard-talk engagement. When you dialogue with some of our Editors, they bemoan the loss of professionalism, largely due to 'censorship from inside'. Many of what they would write on such a 'sensitive' issue is 'edited' by a non editor sitting much higher up. The irony is that this is part of what is killing the mainstream media. Engaged viewer/reader-ship has little or no time for a 130-paged newspaper, or some evening outdated screen verbiage. I do this in my private capacity from my Land's end village with no TV signals and does not receive 130-paged newspapers. We though envision additional community ICT centres around schools and the only one available is over stretched. Omo
From: Collins Areba | Tel +254 707 750 788 | twitter @brainiacKE [mailto:arebacollins@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:19 PM To: Omo, John Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@wambua, I guess my question is on the issue of the 3rd signal distibution license.. Why not award it to the players crying foul and asking for it? Might it be because the two awardees could not survive without content from these players if they focused their content on their own distribution network? Might that explain why Digital migration has not taken off as effectively (because it lacks prime movers).
and to the Media Houses.. Were you soo sure you would win on an extended technicality that the ruling caught you off guard? at what point were you planning to shift focus from protecting turf to getting into the formidable arena of competing in a crowded arena?
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote: Wambua,
I see stations now scrolling messages and one saying they are not against the migration and in fact they support it, and that their concern is “…not enough set top boxes have been acquired or that adequate stocks are available for acquisition by viewers”.
I only wish they started scrolling this a month ago…
What is you comment on this statement currently scrolling on screens?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces +bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:21 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com
Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Because of frequency spectrum limitations.
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
From:Watila Alex
Sent:Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:56 PM
To:Wambua, Christopher
Reply To:awatila@yahoo.co.uk
Cc:Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject:Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
why was the number of signal distributors limited to two? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
______________________________________________________________ From: Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke>; To: <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:43:55 PM
The tender for the 2nd signal distribution licence was an open one. And indeed some of the local media set up a consortium through which they submitted a bid. Their bid was however unsuccessful.
If they had put in an attractive bid, they could have improved their chances of winning. Even if CCK were to float another tender for signal distribution restricted only to local firms, interested companies would have to compete for the licence. Firms that submit poor bids would still lose.
Local firms need to improve their capacity in responding to government tenders. If they don't, they will continue losing out to international firms even in businesses where they have proven expertise.
Wambua
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From:Watila Alex
Sent:Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:22 PM
To:Ngigi Waithaka
Reply To:awatila@yahoo.co.uk
Cc:Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject:Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
i think their major compliant is the limiting of the number of signal distributors. they had hoped to also be signal distributors
-- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
______________________________________________________________ From: Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke>; To: <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 4:01:53 PM
Quick one,
Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog?
While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform.
For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that....
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
Ali,
It’s no secret am for the digital migration.
Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move?
These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya.
What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements.
Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms?
If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom.
BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast.
Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace.
Regards
PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point.
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces +bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@Wambua
Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then.
@ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree.
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
Ali,
I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses.
Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence.
Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources?
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
From: Ali Hussein
Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM
To: ICT Researcher
Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@ Ohaga, ICT Researcher
Lest we forget
1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secret...
2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State...
The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date.
Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done.
The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded.
Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it?
The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses?
Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:-
The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations.
This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done.
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> wrote:
i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/
Commeding Kenyalaw.org people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc...
------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote:
-2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1
-------------------------------
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote:
+1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one
who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender...
Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand
you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other
hand a foreign company.
We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national
broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain
button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious
security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid
requirements stage?
Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender
could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that
generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks.
With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line
their pockets quick. Damn national interests!
But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number
of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed!
Merry Xmas.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies
Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign
company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when
African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In
fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit
to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive
bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually
be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on
honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind
legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and
threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would
hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I
say very irresponsible.
sad though.
On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like
this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like
its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder
what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish
they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the
discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua
Manager - Communications
Consumer and Public Affairs Department
Communications Commission of Kenya
P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800
Tel: +254 20 4242209
info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke>
www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM
To: Wambua, Christopher
Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=
bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto:
kictanet-bounces +bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf
Of Wambua, Christopher
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM
To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>
Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal
distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of
the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the
licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent
tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public
Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any
merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major
towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV
broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a
subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua
Manager - Communications
Consumer and Public Affairs Department
Communications Commission of Kenya
P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800
Tel: +254 20 4242209
info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke>
www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=
cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM
To: Wambua, Christopher
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:
ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country
that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company
2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong?
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world
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Wambua On 12/26/13 11:02 PM, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>> wrote: Wambua, I see stations now scrolling messages and one saying they are not against the migration and in fact they support it, and that their concern is “…not enough set top boxes have been acquired or that adequate stocks are available for acquisition by viewers”. I only wish they started scrolling this a month ago… What is you comment on this statement currently scrolling on screens? I put it down to lack of planning and failing to take responsibility. The issue of the switch has been known for a long time and the date should not come as a surprise to any responsible business owner. The consumers of these services pay to enjoy through a number of ways so the responsible business owner would and should have planned for sustainability. However I will not be surprised when blame starts going to CCK and any other organization we can find to blame. Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:21 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Because of frequency spectrum limitations. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:56 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Reply To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling why was the number of signal distributors limited to two? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> ________________________________ From: Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke<mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke>>; To: <awatila@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk>>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke<mailto:CPA@cck.go.ke>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:43:55 PM The tender for the 2nd signal distribution licence was an open one. And indeed some of the local media set up a consortium through which they submitted a bid. Their bid was however unsuccessful. If they had put in an attractive bid, they could have improved their chances of winning. Even if CCK were to float another tender for signal distribution restricted only to local firms, interested companies would have to compete for the licence. Firms that submit poor bids would still lose. Local firms need to improve their capacity in responding to government tenders. If they don't, they will continue losing out to international firms even in businesses where they have proven expertise. Wambua Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:22 PM To: Ngigi Waithaka Reply To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling i think their major compliant is the limiting of the number of signal distributors. they had hoped to also be signal distributors -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> ________________________________ From: Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke<mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke>>; To: <awatila@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk>>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke<mailto:CPA@cck.go.ke>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 4:01:53 PM Quick one, Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog? While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform. For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that.... Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>> wrote: Ali, It’s no secret am for the digital migration. Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move? These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya. What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements. Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms? If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom. BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast. Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace. Regards PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point. From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @Wambua Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then. @ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke<mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke>> wrote: Ali, I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses. Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence. Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources? Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To:ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @ Ohaga, ICT Researcher Lest we forget 1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secretary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence#<http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secretary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence> 2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State... The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date. Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done. The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded. Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it? The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses? Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:- The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations. This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com<mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com>> wrote: i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/ Commeding Kenyalaw.org<http://Kenyalaw.org> people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc... ------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote: -2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1 ------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote: +1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1 Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke<mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke>> wrote: This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender... Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company. We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage? Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests! But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed! Merry Xmas. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> wrote: Wambua The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'. Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved? History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding? I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>> wrote: They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities. The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening. If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible. sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> wrote: @Wambua jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case. One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-) walu. ------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote: Bernard, CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution. Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke%3cmailto:info@cck.go.ke>> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke> From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Christopher, I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask. Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone? Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto<mailto:bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]%3cmailto:[mailto>: kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com%3cmailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit. The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue. Best regards Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke%3cmailto:info@cck.go.ke>> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke><mailto: ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> wrote: Brinkmanship. To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:- 1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed.. +1 Ali Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy. Where have we go we wrong? 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We believe there are sufficient decoders in the market to support the switchover in Nairobi. The devices are available in supermarkets and other outlets. The details on the type approved decoders are available on www.digitalkenya.go.ke Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Badru Ntege Sent: Friday, 27 December 2013 10:08 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Wambua On 12/26/13 11:02 PM, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>> wrote: Wambua, I see stations now scrolling messages and one saying they are not against the migration and in fact they support it, and that their concern is “…not enough set top boxes have been acquired or that adequate stocks are available for acquisition by viewers”. I only wish they started scrolling this a month ago… What is you comment on this statement currently scrolling on screens? I put it down to lack of planning and failing to take responsibility. The issue of the switch has been known for a long time and the date should not come as a surprise to any responsible business owner. The consumers of these services pay to enjoy through a number of ways so the responsible business owner would and should have planned for sustainability. However I will not be surprised when blame starts going to CCK and any other organization we can find to blame. Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:21 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Because of frequency spectrum limitations. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:56 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Reply To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling why was the number of signal distributors limited to two? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> ________________________________ From: Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke<mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke>>; To: <awatila@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk>>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke<mailto:CPA@cck.go.ke>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:43:55 PM The tender for the 2nd signal distribution licence was an open one. And indeed some of the local media set up a consortium through which they submitted a bid. Their bid was however unsuccessful. If they had put in an attractive bid, they could have improved their chances of winning. Even if CCK were to float another tender for signal distribution restricted only to local firms, interested companies would have to compete for the licence. Firms that submit poor bids would still lose. Local firms need to improve their capacity in responding to government tenders. If they don't, they will continue losing out to international firms even in businesses where they have proven expertise. Wambua Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Watila Alex Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:22 PM To: Ngigi Waithaka Reply To: awatila@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling i think their major compliant is the limiting of the number of signal distributors. they had hoped to also be signal distributors -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> ________________________________ From: Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke<mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke>>; To: <awatila@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk>>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke<mailto:CPA@cck.go.ke>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 4:01:53 PM Quick one, Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog? While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform. For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that.... Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" <bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>> wrote: Ali, It’s no secret am for the digital migration. Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move? These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya. What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements. Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms? If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom. BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast. Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace. Regards PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point. From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @Wambua Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then. @ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke<mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke>> wrote: Ali, I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses. Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence. Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources? Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To:ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling @ Ohaga, ICT Researcher Lest we forget 1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secretary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence#<http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secretary-directive-to-issue-3rd-digital-tv-signal-licence> 2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State... The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date. Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done. The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded. Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it? The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses? Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:- The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations. This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com<mailto:ict.researcher@yahoo.com>> wrote: i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/ Commeding Kenyalaw.org<http://Kenyalaw.org> people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc... ------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote: -2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1 ------------------------------- On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote: +1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1 Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke<mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke>> wrote: This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender... Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company. We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage? Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests! But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed! Merry Xmas. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> wrote: Wambua The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'. Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved? History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding? I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>> wrote: They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities. The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening. If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible. sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> wrote: @Wambua jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case. One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-) walu. ------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote: Bernard, CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution. Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke%3cmailto:info@cck.go.ke>> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke> From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Christopher, I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask. Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone? Regards From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto<mailto:bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]%3cmailto:[mailto>: kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com%3cmailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit. The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue. Best regards Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke%3cmailto:info@cck.go.ke>> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke><mailto: ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> wrote: Brinkmanship. To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:- 1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed.. +1 Ali Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy. Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. twitter.com/lordmwesh<http://twitter.com/lordmwesh><http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bkioko%40bernsoft.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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So I have just come from KBC / signet to dig up more info about this issue. The technical team has explained to me that for every 1 analogue channel...20 digital channels can be broadcast. There are 12 analog tv stations on air now. This means if we move to digital, 240 channels can be created immediately. Fyi kbc also just informed me that they r unable to carry any additional digital channel until the switch over happens and cck allocates them these already in use analog frequencies. Do u now see why I say we as a country are being held back? Regards On 27 Dec 2013 11:29, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
We believe there are sufficient decoders in the market to support the switchover in Nairobi.
The devices are available in supermarkets and other outlets. The details on the type approved decoders are available on www.digitalkenya.go.ke
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. *From: *Badru Ntege *Sent: *Friday, 27 December 2013 10:08 PM *To: *Wambua, Christopher *Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Wambua
On 12/26/13 11:02 PM, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" < bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
Wambua,
I see stations now scrolling messages and one saying they are not against the migration and in fact they support it, and that their concern is “…not enough set top boxes have been acquired or that adequate stocks are available for acquisition by viewers”.
I only wish they started scrolling this a month ago…
What is you comment on this statement currently scrolling on screens?
I put it down to lack of planning and failing to take responsibility. The issue of the switch has been known for a long time and the date should not come as a surprise to any responsible business owner. The consumers of these services pay to enjoy through a number of ways so the responsible business owner would and should have planned for sustainability.
However I will not be surprised when blame starts going to CCK and any other organization we can find to blame.
Regards
*From:* kictanet [ mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke<kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] *On Behalf Of *Wambua, Christopher *Sent:* Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:21 PM *To:* bkioko@bernsoft.com *Cc:* Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Because of frequency spectrum limitations.
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
*From: *Watila Alex
*Sent: *Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:56 PM
*To: *Wambua, Christopher
*Reply To: *awatila@yahoo.co.uk
*Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
*Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
why was the number of signal distributors limited to two? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>
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*From: *Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke>; *To: *<awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; *Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling *Sent: *Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:43:55 PM
The tender for the 2nd signal distribution licence was an open one. And indeed some of the local media set up a consortium through which they submitted a bid. Their bid was however unsuccessful.
If they had put in an attractive bid, they could have improved their chances of winning. Even if CCK were to float another tender for signal distribution restricted only to local firms, interested companies would have to compete for the licence. Firms that submit poor bids would still lose.
Local firms need to improve their capacity in responding to government tenders. If they don't, they will continue losing out to international firms even in businesses where they have proven expertise.
Wambua
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
*From: *Watila Alex
*Sent: *Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:22 PM
*To: *Ngigi Waithaka
*Reply To: *awatila@yahoo.co.uk
*Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
*Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
i think their major compliant is the limiting of the number of signal distributors. they had hoped to also be signal distributors
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*From: *Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke>; *To: *<awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; *Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling *Sent: *Thu, Dec 26, 2013 4:01:53 PM
Quick one,
Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog?
While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform.
For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that....
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" < bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
Ali,
It’s no secret am for the digital migration.
Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move?
These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya.
What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements.
Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms?
If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom.
BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast.
Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace.
Regards
PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point.
*From:* kictanet [ mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke<kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] *On Behalf Of *Ali Hussein *Sent:* Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM *To:* bkioko@bernsoft.com *Cc:* Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@Wambua
Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then.
@ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree.
Ali Hussein
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"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
Ali,
I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses.
Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence.
Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources?
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
*From: *Ali Hussein
*Sent: *Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM
*To:*ICT Researcher
*Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
*Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@ Ohaga, ICT Researcher
Lest we forget
2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State...
The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date.
Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done.
The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded.
Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it?
The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses?
Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:-
The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations.
This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done.
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> wrote:
i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/
Commeding Kenyalaw.org people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc...
------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote:
-2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1
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On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote:
+1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one
who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender...
Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand
you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other
hand a foreign company.
We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national
broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain
button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious
security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid
requirements stage?
Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender
could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that
generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks.
With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line
their pockets quick. Damn national interests!
But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number
of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed!
Merry Xmas.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies
Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign
company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when
African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In
fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit
to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive
bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually
be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on
honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind
legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and
threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would
hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I
say very irresponsible.
sad though.
On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like
this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like
its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder
what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish
they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the
discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
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On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua
Manager - Communications
Consumer and Public Affairs Department
Communications Commission of Kenya
P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800
Tel: +254 20 4242209
info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke>
www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com<bkioko@bernsoft.com> ]
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM
To: Wambua, Christopher
Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=<kictanet-bounces+bkioko=>
bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto:
kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf
Of Wambua, Christopher
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM
To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>
Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal
distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of
the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the
licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent
tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public
Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any
merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major
towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV
broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a
subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua
Manager - Communications
Consumer and Public Affairs Department
Communications Commission of Kenya
P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800
Tel: +254 20 4242209
info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke>
www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=<kictanet-bounces+wambua=>
cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM
To: Wambua, Christopher
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:
ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country
that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company
2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong?
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world
will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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Sorry guys, if you don't mind, I got stuck at this point ... Please point me at the previous threads or other online resource that helps to elaborate the matter of *frequency spectrum limitations *in the Kenyan context. best regards On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke>wrote:
Because of frequency spectrum limitations.
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. *From: *Watila Alex *Sent: *Thursday, 26 December 2013 21:56 PM *To: *Wambua, Christopher *Reply To: *awatila@yahoo.co.uk *Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
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The tender for the 2nd signal distribution licence was an open one. And indeed some of the local media set up a consortium through which they submitted a bid. Their bid was however unsuccessful.
If they had put in an attractive bid, they could have improved their chances of winning. Even if CCK were to float another tender for signal distribution restricted only to local firms, interested companies would have to compete for the licence. Firms that submit poor bids would still lose.
Local firms need to improve their capacity in responding to government tenders. If they don't, they will continue losing out to international firms even in businesses where they have proven expertise.
Wambua
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i think their major compliant is the limiting of the number of signal distributors. they had hoped to also be signal distributors
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Quick one,
Why would the media houses object to going Digital? Are there any advantages to remaining analog?
While I support that the 2nd license ought to have gone to the Kenyan Consortium, I don't support us remaining on the analog broadcasting platform.
For the uninitiated, Digital is equivalent to FM in radio while Analog takes you back to Short Wave radio. Good luck tuning that....
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 26 Dec 2013 13:56, "Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]" < bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
Ali,
It’s no secret am for the digital migration.
Sometime in 2006, a worldwide decision was taken to migrate to Digital by 17th June 2015. Kenya actively started this process in 2009. Many consultative meetings have been held (75 according to CS Information). Of the 9yrs allocated for this transition, Kenya has already used up 7 doing rounds and entertaining selfish interests like we are seeing now. We have 2 to go on now if we are to meet this deadline. Question: When do these media houses feel is the right time to move?
These media houses were running in 2006….2009 … 2013… so their inability to appropriately plan to migrate should not be used to hold the country against the development and opportunities that Digital broadcasting brings to the people of Kenya.
What I find distasteful in their argument is that Nairobians need more time to acquire these devices. CCK had a clear awareness campaign which involved running advertisements informing Nairobians of this switch over and the need to purchase settop boxes. These media houses found it ideal to refuse to run these advertisements – even though CCK was going to pay for the advertisements.
Secondly, It was these media houses that asked that the deadline be moved to December instead of August as CCK had wanted. Instead of supporting their own December date, they rushed to court to make an effort to block the migration. A judge has made a decision and I appreciate that they have a right to the appeal – but what was the need to maliciously deceive Kenyans that they have been switched off? They were transmitting. When DSTV and Zuku took them off their bouquets the game changed abit of course! What is the reason they resumed their broadcast? Did CCK change any terms?
If you watched the CS explain his frustrations with these media houses, then you can understand more why we must not allow them to hold us ransom.
BTW, it needs to be noted that there are no technical issues around the media houses being able to broadcast digitally. They are all currently technically able to broadcast.
Just like they resisted having their print newspaper on the Internet – and were eventually forced to, they will need to understand that Digital Broadcasting is technology they have no choice but to embrace.
Regards
PS: I wish they were telling CCK, we will comply with Digital broadcast fully right now, but allow us to stay on the analog for another 3 months so that we are available on both analog and digital for that period. That to me would be a slightly reasonable bargaining point.
*From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Ali Hussein *Sent:* Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:16 PM *To:* bkioko@bernsoft.com *Cc:* Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@Wambua
Thanks for that information. If that is the case then the media houses are definitely not acting in good faith. I suspect though that there may be an issue of who controls what..which in my opinion is shortsighted. I stand corrected in my assertions then.
@ICT Researcher, what in your view is my stand? I'm simply making my personal assertions on this issue. We can of course agree to disagree.
Ali Hussein
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On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
Ali,
I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses.
Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence.
Is this insistence in the interest of optimal use of frequency spectrum resources?
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
*From: *Ali Hussein
*Sent: *Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM
*To: *ICT Researcher
*Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
*Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@ Ohaga, ICT Researcher
Lest we forget
2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State...
The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date.
Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done.
The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded.
Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it?
The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses?
Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation. I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:-
The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations.
This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done.
Ali Hussein
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On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com> wrote:
i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those dealt with on judgement at: http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/93274/
Commeding Kenyalaw.org people for opening up court decisions to the public, without which we used to argue on third parties' opinions, views, hearsy, innuendos etc...
------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote:
-2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1
-------------------------------
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote:
+1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1
Regards
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On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender...
Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand
you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other
hand a foreign company.
We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national
broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain
button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious
security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid
requirements stage?
Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender
could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that
generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks.
With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line
their pockets quick. Damn national interests!
But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number
of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed!
Merry Xmas.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies
Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign
company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when
African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In
fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit
to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive
bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually
be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on
honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind
legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and
threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would
hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I
say very irresponsible.
sad though.
On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like
this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like
its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder
what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish
they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the
discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua
Manager - Communications
Consumer and Public Affairs Department
Communications Commission of Kenya
P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800
Tel: +254 20 4242209
info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke>
www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM
To: Wambua, Christopher
Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=
bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto:
kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf
Of Wambua, Christopher
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM
To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>
Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal
distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of
the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the
licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent
tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public
Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any
merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major
towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV
broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a
subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua
Manager - Communications
Consumer and Public Affairs Department
Communications Commission of Kenya
P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800
Tel: +254 20 4242209
info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke>
www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=
cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM
To: Wambua, Christopher
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:
ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country
that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company
2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong?
Ali Hussein
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"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world
will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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does anyone have a copy of the digital migration task force report that the media houses are referring to in today's appeal? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
finally accessed the task force report at www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/*migration*_*digital*_tv.pdf? the report made the flowing observations & recommendations on the digital signal distribution * The signal distributors will provide services to broadcasters on an equitable, reasonable, non-preferential and non-discriminatory basis. - *note the distinction between broadcaster &**signal distributor*. *i was unable to find any obligation placed on broadcasters to avail their content to all the signal distributors. the three broadcasters could decide to only provide their content to their signal distribution company. * * The functions of a signal distributor were previously carried out by the broadcasters and a number of challenges come into focus since the existing broadcasters have already made significant investments in infrastructure. There has to be a mechanism to ensure that this investment is not wasted.- *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* * The high set-up costs will limit the number of signal distributors. Furthermore, signal distribution services may not penetrate to areas that are not commercially viable. - *limitation of signal distributors seems to have been based on cost of set-up and not the spectrum. according to the three broadcasters, they are able to upgrade their infrastructure to distribute digital signals at a cost that is affordable to them* * In order to reduce the cost of migration, the existing designated transmitting analogue sites and infrastructure will be used for digital transmission. - *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* * Based on the government decision to licence KBC as a signal distributor, KBC shall form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. - *Signet? shouldn't it have been a locally owned company. not sure how Chinese ownership came in* * The current broadcasters will be allowed to form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to utilize their existing infrastructure. This company should be independent to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. This company will be given the first preference to a signal distribution licence. *this seems not to have happened as recommended. would have prevented the current acrimony* * Existing broadcasters who own infrastructure will negotiate commercial terms with the licensed signal distribution provider for transfer of ownership of the infrastructure.*the three broadcasters seem unwilling to pursue this as a means of recovering their "40 billion kes" investment * * A time limit be set after which broadcasters will not be allowed to operate unlicensed signal distribution services - *seems the three broadcasters have a grace period to distribute digitally*. ** ** On 12/27/2013 11:18 AM, Watila Alex wrote:
does anyone have a copy of the digital migration task force report that the media houses are referring to in today's appeal?
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------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From: * Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; *To: * Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke>; *Cc: * Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; *Subject: * Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling *Sent: * Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:59:06 PM
why was the number of signal distributors limited to two? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>
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Doing some unrelated research and came across this story here http://www.jeffhead.com/usn21/p8.htm Key point "...*However, BAE withdrew from the competition in October 2002, recognizing the political reality that its failure to locate and team with a US-based production partner made the bid unrealistic. * *..."* Relevance, for those advocating that national interest does not matter in *critical procurement* and backing for local firms, even a large conglomerate as BAE with all the backing from Downling Street can't win a large defense contract in the US against US firms. Another interesting read here http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/02/28/how-boeing-won-the-tanker-war... Regards On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
finally accessed the task force report at www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/ *migration*_*digital*_tv.pdf
the report made the flowing observations & recommendations on the digital signal distribution
- The signal distributors will provide services to broadcasters on an equitable, reasonable, non-preferential and non-discriminatory basis. - *note the distinction between broadcaster &** signal distributor*. *i was unable to find any obligation placed on broadcasters to avail their content to all the signal distributors. the three broadcasters could decide to only provide their content to their signal distribution company. * - The functions of a signal distributor were previously carried out by the broadcasters and a number of challenges come into focus since the existing broadcasters have already made significant investments in infrastructure. There has to be a mechanism to ensure that this investment is not wasted.- *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* - The high set-up costs will limit the number of signal distributors. Furthermore, signal distribution services may not penetrate to areas that are not commercially viable. - *limitation of signal distributors seems to have been based on cost of set-up and not the spectrum. according to the three broadcasters, they are able to upgrade their infrastructure to distribute digital signals at a cost that is affordable to them* - In order to reduce the cost of migration, the existing designated transmitting analogue sites and infrastructure will be used for digital transmission. - *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* - Based on the government decision to licence KBC as a signal distributor, KBC shall form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. - *Signet? shouldn't it have been a locally owned company. not sure how Chinese ownership came in* - The current broadcasters will be allowed to form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to utilize their existing infrastructure. This company should be independent to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. This company will be given the first preference to a signal distribution licence. *this seems not to have happened as recommended. would have prevented the current acrimony* - Existing broadcasters who own infrastructure will negotiate commercial terms with the licensed signal distribution provider for transfer of ownership of the infrastructure.* the three broadcasters seem unwilling to pursue this as a means of recovering their "40 billion kes" investment * - A time limit be set after which broadcasters will not be allowed to operate unlicensed signal distribution services - *seems the three broadcasters have a grace period to distribute digitally*.
On 12/27/2013 11:18 AM, Watila Alex wrote:
does anyone have a copy of the digital migration task force report that the media houses are referring to in today's appeal?
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There are particular tenders, even in Kenya, that are subject to demonstration of a certain percentage of local participation. This cannot, however, be used across the board even for services that don't require this kind of treatment. As we argue through, what's the definition of local media? Is it one local player, two or three of them separately or together? Must these entities also be separately 100% Kenyan in equity? Is KBC a local media? Let's also appreciate that unless anyone has been denied the chance to participate in a tender, a loss of the bid doesn't amount to being barred from the process. As it is, Tanzania has already gone digital. Does anyone know the ownership of their signal distributor? Its interesting to know that. US examples are ok but we need to put them into context. Local and regional examples may even be more relevant to our situation. From: Ngigi Waithaka [mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 09:01 AM To: Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Doing some unrelated research and came across this story here http://www.jeffhead.com/usn21/p8.htm Key point "...However, BAE withdrew from the competition in October 2002, recognizing the political reality that its failure to locate and team with a US-based production partner made the bid unrealistic. ..." Relevance, for those advocating that national interest does not matter in *critical procurement* and backing for local firms, even a large conglomerate as BAE with all the backing from Downling Street can't win a large defense contract in the US against US firms. Another interesting read here http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/02/28/how-boeing-won-the-tanker-war... Regards On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote: finally accessed the task force report at www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/<http://www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/>migration_digital_tv.pdf the report made the flowing observations & recommendations on the digital signal distribution * The signal distributors will provide services to broadcasters on an equitable, reasonable, non-preferential and non-discriminatory basis. - note the distinction between broadcaster & signal distributor. i was unable to find any obligation placed on broadcasters to avail their content to all the signal distributors. the three broadcasters could decide to only provide their content to their signal distribution company. * The functions of a signal distributor were previously carried out by the broadcasters and a number of challenges come into focus since the existing broadcasters have already made significant investments in infrastructure. There has to be a mechanism to ensure that this investment is not wasted.- this has been the argument of the three broadcasters. * The high set-up costs will limit the number of signal distributors. Furthermore, signal distribution services may not penetrate to areas that are not commercially viable. - limitation of signal distributors seems to have been based on cost of set-up and not the spectrum. according to the three broadcasters, they are able to upgrade their infrastructure to distribute digital signals at a cost that is affordable to them * In order to reduce the cost of migration, the existing designated transmitting analogue sites and infrastructure will be used for digital transmission. - this has been the argument of the three broadcasters. * Based on the government decision to licence KBC as a signal distributor, KBC shall form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. - Signet? shouldn't it have been a locally owned company. not sure how Chinese ownership came in * The current broadcasters will be allowed to form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to utilize their existing infrastructure. This company should be independent to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. This company will be given the first preference to a signal distribution licence. this seems not to have happened as recommended. would have prevented the current acrimony * Existing broadcasters who own infrastructure will negotiate commercial terms with the licensed signal distribution provider for transfer of ownership of the infrastructure. the three broadcasters seem unwilling to pursue this as a means of recovering their "40 billion kes" investment * A time limit be set after which broadcasters will not be allowed to operate unlicensed signal distribution services - seems the three broadcasters have a grace period to distribute digitally. On 12/27/2013 11:18 AM, Watila Alex wrote: does anyone have a copy of the digital migration task force report that the media houses are referring to in today's appeal? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> ________________________________ From: Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk><mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; To: Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke><mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke><mailto:CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:59:06 PM why was the number of signal distributors limited to two? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> ________________________________ From: Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke><mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke>; To: <awatila@yahoo.co.uk><mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke><mailto:CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:43:55 PM _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Mutua, Muthusi <Mutua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
There are particular tenders, even in Kenya, that are subject to demonstration of a certain percentage of local participation. This cannot, however, be used across the board even for services that don't require this kind of treatment.
Not sure when and by whom was it decided, certain critical services in Kenya do not have to involve Kenyan firms. Do we develop local capacity through procurement laws which ensure foreign firms manage our critical local/distribution infrastructure? Note Euro vs China Policy: http://www.slideshare.net/IPRChina/technology-transfer-to-china-guidance-for... Does Kenyan procurement/policy require foreign firms to engage in joint (technical) ventures with firms majority owned by Kenyans? Suspect... Mobitelea was a case of politically "correct" ghosts getting a 5% cut in a Telco. Was it a Kenyan firm with even a small track record of telco/service provision in Kenya, with evidence it was committed to developing local talent and capabilities? As we argue through, what's the definition of local media? Is it one local
player, two or three of them separately or together? Must these entities also be separately 100% Kenyan in equity? Is KBC a local media?
The media/content which enters the Kenyan home/office may originate from MARS, but the "last mile" infrastructure/frequency through which the digital content enters the home/office, is licensed/managed in Kenya.
In the finance sector is shareholding by any one individual or entity not limited to 24.99%. Kenyans should own over 50% of the firms managing signal distribution. Let's also appreciate that unless anyone has been denied the chance to
participate in a tender, a loss of the bid doesn't amount to being barred from the process.
If being required to have prior engagements in multiple million dollar contracts is not being barred from the tendering process, then you are correct.
As it is, Tanzania has already gone digital. Does anyone know the ownership of their signal distributor? Its interesting to know that. US examples are ok but we need to put them into context. Local and regional examples may even be more relevant to our situation.
*From*: Ngigi Waithaka [mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke] *Sent*: Saturday, December 28, 2013 09:01 AM *To*: Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> *Cc*: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Subject*: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Doing some unrelated research and came across this story here http://www.jeffhead.com/usn21/p8.htm
Key point "...*However, BAE withdrew from the competition in October 2002, recognizing the political reality that its failure to locate and team with a US-based production partner made the bid unrealistic. *
*..." * Relevance, for those advocating that national interest does not matter in *critical procurement* and backing for local firms, even a large conglomerate as BAE with all the backing from Downling Street can't win a large defense contract in the US against US firms.
Another interesting read here
http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/02/28/how-boeing-won-the-tanker-war...
Regards
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
finally accessed the task force report at www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/ *migration*_*digital*_tv.pdf
the report made the flowing observations & recommendations on the digital signal distribution
- The signal distributors will provide services to broadcasters on an equitable, reasonable, non-preferential and non-discriminatory basis. - *note the distinction between broadcaster &** signal distributor*. *i was unable to find any obligation placed on broadcasters to avail their content to all the signal distributors. the three broadcasters could decide to only provide their content to their signal distribution company. * - The functions of a signal distributor were previously carried out by the broadcasters and a number of challenges come into focus since the existing broadcasters have already made significant investments in infrastructure. There has to be a mechanism to ensure that this investment is not wasted.- *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* - The high set-up costs will limit the number of signal distributors. Furthermore, signal distribution services may not penetrate to areas that are not commercially viable. - *limitation of signal distributors seems to have been based on cost of set-up and not the spectrum. according to the three broadcasters, they are able to upgrade their infrastructure to distribute digital signals at a cost that is affordable to them* - In order to reduce the cost of migration, the existing designated transmitting analogue sites and infrastructure will be used for digital transmission. - *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* - Based on the government decision to licence KBC as a signal distributor, KBC shall form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. - *Signet? shouldn't it have been a locally owned company. not sure how Chinese ownership came in* - The current broadcasters will be allowed to form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to utilize their existing infrastructure. This company should be independent to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. This company will be given the first preference to a signal distribution licence. * this seems not to have happened as recommended. would have prevented the current acrimony* - Existing broadcasters who own infrastructure will negotiate commercial terms with the licensed signal distribution provider for transfer of ownership of the infrastructure.* the three broadcasters seem unwilling to pursue this as a means of recovering their "40 billion kes" investment * - A time limit be set after which broadcasters will not be allowed to operate unlicensed signal distribution services - *seems the three broadcasters have a grace period to distribute digitally*.
On 12/27/2013 11:18 AM, Watila Alex wrote:
does anyone have a copy of the digital migration task force report that the media houses are referring to in today's appeal?
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SM Muraya, Kenyans firms were involved. There were even two different consortiums of the local media that participated. The only difference here is that the tender was open and not necessarily targeting local firms or local media for that matter. I don't know of any procurement law that excludes Kenyan firms but there are certain tenders may only target local firms. The signal distributor one was open to all and the records of the participation can attest to that. As I pointed out earlier, losing a tender bid is not tantamount to being denied a chance to participate. That's the case we are dealing with here! From: S.M. Muraya [mailto:murigi.muraya@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 01:03 AM To: Mutua, Muthusi Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Mutua, Muthusi <Mutua@cck.go.ke<mailto:Mutua@cck.go.ke>> wrote: There are particular tenders, even in Kenya, that are subject to demonstration of a certain percentage of local participation. This cannot, however, be used across the board even for services that don't require this kind of treatment. Not sure when and by whom was it decided, certain critical services in Kenya do not have to involve Kenyan firms. Do we develop local capacity through procurement laws which ensure foreign firms manage our critical local/distribution infrastructure? Note Euro vs China Policy: http://www.slideshare.net/IPRChina/technology-transfer-to-china-guidance-for... Does Kenyan procurement/policy require foreign firms to engage in joint (technical) ventures with firms majority owned by Kenyans? Suspect... Mobitelea was a case of politically "correct" ghosts getting a 5% cut in a Telco. Was it a Kenyan firm with even a small track record of telco/service provision in Kenya, with evidence it was committed to developing local talent and capabilities? As we argue through, what's the definition of local media? Is it one local player, two or three of them separately or together? Must these entities also be separately 100% Kenyan in equity? Is KBC a local media? The media/content which enters the Kenyan home/office may originate from MARS, but the "last mile" infrastructure/frequency through which the digital content enters the home/office, is licensed/managed in Kenya. In the finance sector is shareholding by any one individual or entity not limited to 24.99%. Kenyans should own over 50% of the firms managing signal distribution. Let's also appreciate that unless anyone has been denied the chance to participate in a tender, a loss of the bid doesn't amount to being barred from the process. If being required to have prior engagements in multiple million dollar contracts is not being barred from the tendering process, then you are correct. As it is, Tanzania has already gone digital. Does anyone know the ownership of their signal distributor? Its interesting to know that. US examples are ok but we need to put them into context. Local and regional examples may even be more relevant to our situation. From: Ngigi Waithaka [mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke<mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke>] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 09:01 AM To: Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk>> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Doing some unrelated research and came across this story here http://www.jeffhead.com/usn21/p8.htm Key point "...However, BAE withdrew from the competition in October 2002, recognizing the political reality that its failure to locate and team with a US-based production partner made the bid unrealistic. ..." Relevance, for those advocating that national interest does not matter in *critical procurement* and backing for local firms, even a large conglomerate as BAE with all the backing from Downling Street can't win a large defense contract in the US against US firms. Another interesting read here http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/02/28/how-boeing-won-the-tanker-war... Regards On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote: finally accessed the task force report at www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/<http://www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/>migration_digital_tv.pdf the report made the flowing observations & recommendations on the digital signal distribution * The signal distributors will provide services to broadcasters on an equitable, reasonable, non-preferential and non-discriminatory basis. - note the distinction between broadcaster & signal distributor. i was unable to find any obligation placed on broadcasters to avail their content to all the signal distributors. the three broadcasters could decide to only provide their content to their signal distribution company. * The functions of a signal distributor were previously carried out by the broadcasters and a number of challenges come into focus since the existing broadcasters have already made significant investments in infrastructure. There has to be a mechanism to ensure that this investment is not wasted.- this has been the argument of the three broadcasters. * The high set-up costs will limit the number of signal distributors. Furthermore, signal distribution services may not penetrate to areas that are not commercially viable. - limitation of signal distributors seems to have been based on cost of set-up and not the spectrum. according to the three broadcasters, they are able to upgrade their infrastructure to distribute digital signals at a cost that is affordable to them * In order to reduce the cost of migration, the existing designated transmitting analogue sites and infrastructure will be used for digital transmission. - this has been the argument of the three broadcasters. * Based on the government decision to licence KBC as a signal distributor, KBC shall form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. - Signet? shouldn't it have been a locally owned company. not sure how Chinese ownership came in * The current broadcasters will be allowed to form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to utilize their existing infrastructure. This company should be independent to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. This company will be given the first preference to a signal distribution licence. this seems not to have happened as recommended. would have prevented the current acrimony * Existing broadcasters who own infrastructure will negotiate commercial terms with the licensed signal distribution provider for transfer of ownership of the infrastructure. the three broadcasters seem unwilling to pursue this as a means of recovering their "40 billion kes" investment * A time limit be set after which broadcasters will not be allowed to operate unlicensed signal distribution services - seems the three broadcasters have a grace period to distribute digitally. On 12/27/2013 11:18 AM, Watila Alex wrote: does anyone have a copy of the digital migration task force report that the media houses are referring to in today's appeal? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> ________________________________ From: Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk><mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; To: Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke><mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke><mailto:CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:59:06 PM why was the number of signal distributors limited to two? -- Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> ________________________________ From: Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke><mailto:Wambua@cck.go.ke>; To: <awatila@yahoo.co.uk><mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk>; Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs <CPA@cck.go.ke><mailto:CPA@cck.go.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 6:43:55 PM _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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The fact that the tender was *open* is the question that is in play here and is the short-sightedness I alluded to earlier in a prior post. We have firms with the right infrastructure (masts, generators, workers etc) already in use in this country and before we ran off to procure equivalent from China, we ought to have procured what is already available locally. That is why the 2nd infrastrucure bid ought to have been local to protect our already existing investments. Another reason, national interest should dictate that we shouldnt rely on external parties for such critical infrastructure before we already have one from amongst our own in place. But we now know someone didnt see it that way. There was no money to be made using whats already there, best to buy everything new, since the 'cut' is likewise larger. And how do you do that? Open Tender! Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 29 Dec 2013 09:11, "Mutua, Muthusi" <Mutua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
SM Muraya, Kenyans firms were involved. There were even two different consortiums of the local media that participated.
The only difference here is that the tender was open and not necessarily targeting local firms or local media for that matter.
I don't know of any procurement law that excludes Kenyan firms but there are certain tenders may only target local firms. The signal distributor one was open to all and the records of the participation can attest to that.
As I pointed out earlier, losing a tender bid is not tantamount to being denied a chance to participate. That's the case we are dealing with here!
*From*: S.M. Muraya [mailto:murigi.muraya@gmail.com] *Sent*: Sunday, December 29, 2013 01:03 AM *To*: Mutua, Muthusi *Cc*: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Subject*: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Mutua, Muthusi <Mutua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
There are particular tenders, even in Kenya, that are subject to demonstration of a certain percentage of local participation. This cannot, however, be used across the board even for services that don't require this kind of treatment.
Not sure when and by whom was it decided, certain critical services in Kenya do not have to involve Kenyan firms.
Do we develop local capacity through procurement laws which ensure foreign firms manage our critical local/distribution infrastructure?
Note Euro vs China Policy: http://www.slideshare.net/IPRChina/technology-transfer-to-china-guidance-for...
Does Kenyan procurement/policy require foreign firms to engage in joint (technical) ventures with firms majority owned by Kenyans?
Suspect... Mobitelea was a case of politically "correct" ghosts getting a 5% cut in a Telco. Was it a Kenyan firm with even a small track record of telco/service provision in Kenya, with evidence it was committed to developing local talent and capabilities?
As we argue through, what's the definition of local media? Is it one
local player, two or three of them separately or together? Must these entities also be separately 100% Kenyan in equity? Is KBC a local media?
The media/content which enters the Kenyan home/office may originate from MARS, but the "last mile" infrastructure/frequency through which the digital content enters the home/office, is licensed/managed in Kenya.
In the finance sector is shareholding by any one individual or entity not limited to 24.99%. Kenyans should own over 50% of the firms managing signal distribution.
Let's also appreciate that unless anyone has been denied the chance to
participate in a tender, a loss of the bid doesn't amount to being barred from the process.
If being required to have prior engagements in multiple million dollar contracts is not being barred from the tendering process, then you are correct.
As it is, Tanzania has already gone digital. Does anyone know the ownership of their signal distributor? Its interesting to know that. US examples are ok but we need to put them into context. Local and regional examples may even be more relevant to our situation.
*From*: Ngigi Waithaka [mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke] *Sent*: Saturday, December 28, 2013 09:01 AM *To*: Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> *Cc*: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Subject*: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Doing some unrelated research and came across this story here http://www.jeffhead.com/usn21/p8.htm
Key point "...*However, BAE withdrew from the competition in October 2002, recognizing the political reality that its failure to locate and team with a US-based production partner made the bid unrealistic. *
*..." * Relevance, for those advocating that national interest does not matter in *critical procurement* and backing for local firms, even a large conglomerate as BAE with all the backing from Downling Street can't win a large defense contract in the US against US firms.
Another interesting read here
http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/02/28/how-boeing-won-the-tanker-war...
Regards
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
finally accessed the task force report at www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/ *migration*_*digital*_tv.pdf
the report made the flowing observations & recommendations on the digital signal distribution
- The signal distributors will provide services to broadcasters on an equitable, reasonable, non-preferential and non-discriminatory basis. - *note the distinction between broadcaster &** signal distributor*. *i was unable to find any obligation placed on broadcasters to avail their content to all the signal distributors. the three broadcasters could decide to only provide their content to their signal distribution company. * - The functions of a signal distributor were previously carried out by the broadcasters and a number of challenges come into focus since the existing broadcasters have already made significant investments in infrastructure. There has to be a mechanism to ensure that this investment is not wasted.- *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* - The high set-up costs will limit the number of signal distributors. Furthermore, signal distribution services may not penetrate to areas that are not commercially viable. - *limitation of signal distributors seems to have been based on cost of set-up and not the spectrum. according to the three broadcasters, they are able to upgrade their infrastructure to distribute digital signals at a cost that is affordable to them* - In order to reduce the cost of migration, the existing designated transmitting analogue sites and infrastructure will be used for digital transmission. - *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* - Based on the government decision to licence KBC as a signal distributor, KBC shall form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. - *Signet? shouldn't it have been a locally owned company. not sure how Chinese ownership came in* - The current broadcasters will be allowed to form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to utilize their existing infrastructure. This company should be independent to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. This company will be given the first preference to a signal distribution licence. * this seems not to have happened as recommended. would have prevented the current acrimony* - Existing broadcasters who own infrastructure will negotiate commercial terms with the licensed signal distribution provider for transfer of ownership of the infrastructure.* the three broadcasters seem unwilling to pursue this as a means of recovering their "40 billion kes" investment * - A time limit be set after which broadcasters will not be allowed to operate unlicensed signal distribution services - *seems the three broadcasters have a grace period to distribute digitally*.
On 12/27/2013 11:18 AM, Watila Alex wrote:
does anyone have a copy of the digital migration task force report that the media houses are referring to in today's appeal?
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On 29/12/2013, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
The fact that the tender was *open* is the question that is in play here and is the short-sightedness I alluded to earlier in a prior post.
We have firms with the right infrastructure (masts, generators, workers etc) already in use in this country and before we ran off to procure equivalent from China, we ought to have procured what is already available locally.
That is why the 2nd infrastrucure bid ought to have been local to protect our already existing investments.
Another reason, national interest should dictate that we shouldnt rely on external parties for such critical infrastructure before we already have one from amongst our own in place.
++1 Waithaka.
But we now know someone didnt see it that way. There was no money to be made using whats already there, best to buy everything new, since the 'cut' is likewise larger.
And how do you do that? Open Tender!
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 29 Dec 2013 09:11, "Mutua, Muthusi" <Mutua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
SM Muraya, Kenyans firms were involved. There were even two different consortiums of the local media that participated.
The only difference here is that the tender was open and not necessarily targeting local firms or local media for that matter.
I don't know of any procurement law that excludes Kenyan firms but there are certain tenders may only target local firms. The signal distributor one was open to all and the records of the participation can attest to that.
As I pointed out earlier, losing a tender bid is not tantamount to being denied a chance to participate. That's the case we are dealing with here!
*From*: S.M. Muraya [mailto:murigi.muraya@gmail.com] *Sent*: Sunday, December 29, 2013 01:03 AM *To*: Mutua, Muthusi *Cc*: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Subject*: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Mutua, Muthusi <Mutua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
There are particular tenders, even in Kenya, that are subject to demonstration of a certain percentage of local participation. This cannot, however, be used across the board even for services that don't require this kind of treatment.
Not sure when and by whom was it decided, certain critical services in Kenya do not have to involve Kenyan firms.
Do we develop local capacity through procurement laws which ensure foreign firms manage our critical local/distribution infrastructure?
Note Euro vs China Policy: http://www.slideshare.net/IPRChina/technology-transfer-to-china-guidance-for...
Does Kenyan procurement/policy require foreign firms to engage in joint (technical) ventures with firms majority owned by Kenyans?
Suspect... Mobitelea was a case of politically "correct" ghosts getting a 5% cut in a Telco. Was it a Kenyan firm with even a small track record of telco/service provision in Kenya, with evidence it was committed to developing local talent and capabilities?
As we argue through, what's the definition of local media? Is it one
local player, two or three of them separately or together? Must these entities also be separately 100% Kenyan in equity? Is KBC a local media?
The media/content which enters the Kenyan home/office may originate from MARS, but the "last mile" infrastructure/frequency through which the digital content enters the home/office, is licensed/managed in Kenya.
In the finance sector is shareholding by any one individual or entity not limited to 24.99%. Kenyans should own over 50% of the firms managing signal distribution.
Let's also appreciate that unless anyone has been denied the chance to
participate in a tender, a loss of the bid doesn't amount to being barred from the process.
If being required to have prior engagements in multiple million dollar contracts is not being barred from the tendering process, then you are correct.
As it is, Tanzania has already gone digital. Does anyone know the ownership of their signal distributor? Its interesting to know that. US examples are ok but we need to put them into context. Local and regional examples may even be more relevant to our situation.
*From*: Ngigi Waithaka [mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke] *Sent*: Saturday, December 28, 2013 09:01 AM *To*: Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> *Cc*: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Subject*: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Doing some unrelated research and came across this story here http://www.jeffhead.com/usn21/p8.htm
Key point "...*However, BAE withdrew from the competition in October 2002, recognizing the political reality that its failure to locate and team with a US-based production partner made the bid unrealistic. *
*..." * Relevance, for those advocating that national interest does not matter in *critical procurement* and backing for local firms, even a large conglomerate as BAE with all the backing from Downling Street can't win a large defense contract in the US against US firms.
Another interesting read here
http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/02/28/how-boeing-won-the-tanker-war...
Regards
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
finally accessed the task force report at www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/ *migration*_*digital*_tv.pdf
the report made the flowing observations & recommendations on the digital signal distribution
- The signal distributors will provide services to broadcasters on an equitable, reasonable, non-preferential and non-discriminatory basis. - *note the distinction between broadcaster &** signal distributor*. *i was unable to find any obligation placed on broadcasters to avail their content to all the signal distributors. the three broadcasters could decide to only provide their content to their signal distribution company. * - The functions of a signal distributor were previously carried out by the broadcasters and a number of challenges come into focus since the existing broadcasters have already made significant investments in infrastructure. There has to be a mechanism to ensure that this investment is not wasted.- *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* - The high set-up costs will limit the number of signal distributors. Furthermore, signal distribution services may not penetrate to areas that are not commercially viable. - *limitation of signal distributors seems to have been based on cost of set-up and not the spectrum. according to the three broadcasters, they are able to upgrade their infrastructure to distribute digital signals at a cost that is affordable to them* - In order to reduce the cost of migration, the existing designated transmitting analogue sites and infrastructure will be used for digital transmission. - *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* - Based on the government decision to licence KBC as a signal distributor, KBC shall form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. - *Signet? shouldn't it have been a locally owned company. not sure how Chinese ownership came in* - The current broadcasters will be allowed to form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to utilize their existing infrastructure. This company should be independent to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. This company will be given the first preference to a signal distribution licence. * this seems not to have happened as recommended. would have prevented the current acrimony* - Existing broadcasters who own infrastructure will negotiate commercial terms with the licensed signal distribution provider for transfer of ownership of the infrastructure.* the three broadcasters seem unwilling to pursue this as a means of recovering their "40 billion kes" investment * - A time limit be set after which broadcasters will not be allowed to operate unlicensed signal distribution services - *seems the three broadcasters have a grace period to distribute digitally*.
On 12/27/2013 11:18 AM, Watila Alex wrote:
does anyone have a copy of the digital migration task force report that the media houses are referring to in today's appeal?
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But the same local firms that own the said infrastructure put in a bid that could not pass muster. Should CCK or the government for that matter also help them prepare bid documents? As I indicated earlier, even restricted tenders require interested firms to meet certain basic requirements/criteria. It is really unfortunate when local firms with the required technical capacity to provide advertised licensable services lose out to foreign companies on the basis of failure to put in a convincing technical/business proposal. I would not be surprised that the bid winners (foreign consortium ) may have used local consultants to prepare bids for them. You raise an important policy issue here. But local firms also need to raise their socks in meeting the basic requirements for government tenders. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Kivuva Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2013 11:16 PM To: Ngigi Waithaka Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling On 29/12/2013, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
The fact that the tender was *open* is the question that is in play here and is the short-sightedness I alluded to earlier in a prior post.
We have firms with the right infrastructure (masts, generators, workers etc) already in use in this country and before we ran off to procure equivalent from China, we ought to have procured what is already available locally.
That is why the 2nd infrastrucure bid ought to have been local to protect our already existing investments.
Another reason, national interest should dictate that we shouldnt rely on external parties for such critical infrastructure before we already have one from amongst our own in place.
++1 Waithaka.
But we now know someone didnt see it that way. There was no money to be made using whats already there, best to buy everything new, since the 'cut' is likewise larger.
And how do you do that? Open Tender!
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 29 Dec 2013 09:11, "Mutua, Muthusi" <Mutua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
SM Muraya, Kenyans firms were involved. There were even two different consortiums of the local media that participated.
The only difference here is that the tender was open and not necessarily targeting local firms or local media for that matter.
I don't know of any procurement law that excludes Kenyan firms but there are certain tenders may only target local firms. The signal distributor one was open to all and the records of the participation can attest to that.
As I pointed out earlier, losing a tender bid is not tantamount to being denied a chance to participate. That's the case we are dealing with here!
*From*: S.M. Muraya [mailto:murigi.muraya@gmail.com] *Sent*: Sunday, December 29, 2013 01:03 AM *To*: Mutua, Muthusi *Cc*: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Subject*: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Mutua, Muthusi <Mutua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
There are particular tenders, even in Kenya, that are subject to demonstration of a certain percentage of local participation. This cannot, however, be used across the board even for services that don't require this kind of treatment.
Not sure when and by whom was it decided, certain critical services in Kenya do not have to involve Kenyan firms.
Do we develop local capacity through procurement laws which ensure foreign firms manage our critical local/distribution infrastructure?
Note Euro vs China Policy: http://www.slideshare.net/IPRChina/technology-transfer-to-china-guidance-for...
Does Kenyan procurement/policy require foreign firms to engage in joint (technical) ventures with firms majority owned by Kenyans?
Suspect... Mobitelea was a case of politically "correct" ghosts getting a 5% cut in a Telco. Was it a Kenyan firm with even a small track record of telco/service provision in Kenya, with evidence it was committed to developing local talent and capabilities?
As we argue through, what's the definition of local media? Is it one
local player, two or three of them separately or together? Must these entities also be separately 100% Kenyan in equity? Is KBC a local media?
The media/content which enters the Kenyan home/office may originate from MARS, but the "last mile" infrastructure/frequency through which the digital content enters the home/office, is licensed/managed in Kenya.
In the finance sector is shareholding by any one individual or entity not limited to 24.99%. Kenyans should own over 50% of the firms managing signal distribution.
Let's also appreciate that unless anyone has been denied the chance to
participate in a tender, a loss of the bid doesn't amount to being barred from the process.
If being required to have prior engagements in multiple million dollar contracts is not being barred from the tendering process, then you are correct.
As it is, Tanzania has already gone digital. Does anyone know the ownership of their signal distributor? Its interesting to know that. US examples are ok but we need to put them into context. Local and regional examples may even be more relevant to our situation.
*From*: Ngigi Waithaka [mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke] *Sent*: Saturday, December 28, 2013 09:01 AM *To*: Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> *Cc*: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Subject*: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Doing some unrelated research and came across this story here http://www.jeffhead.com/usn21/p8.htm
Key point "...*However, BAE withdrew from the competition in October 2002, recognizing the political reality that its failure to locate and team with a US-based production partner made the bid unrealistic. *
*..." * Relevance, for those advocating that national interest does not matter in *critical procurement* and backing for local firms, even a large conglomerate as BAE with all the backing from Downling Street can't win a large defense contract in the US against US firms.
Another interesting read here
http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/02/28/how-boeing-won-the-tanker-war...
Regards
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
finally accessed the task force report at www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/ *migration*_*digital*_tv.pdf
the report made the flowing observations & recommendations on the digital signal distribution
- The signal distributors will provide services to broadcasters on an equitable, reasonable, non-preferential and non-discriminatory basis. - *note the distinction between broadcaster &** signal distributor*. *i was unable to find any obligation placed on broadcasters to avail their content to all the signal distributors. the three broadcasters could decide to only provide their content to their signal distribution company. * - The functions of a signal distributor were previously carried out by the broadcasters and a number of challenges come into focus since the existing broadcasters have already made significant investments in infrastructure. There has to be a mechanism to ensure that this investment is not wasted.- *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* - The high set-up costs will limit the number of signal distributors. Furthermore, signal distribution services may not penetrate to areas that are not commercially viable. - *limitation of signal distributors seems to have been based on cost of set-up and not the spectrum. according to the three broadcasters, they are able to upgrade their infrastructure to distribute digital signals at a cost that is affordable to them* - In order to reduce the cost of migration, the existing designated transmitting analogue sites and infrastructure will be used for digital transmission. - *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* - Based on the government decision to licence KBC as a signal distributor, KBC shall form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. - *Signet? shouldn't it have been a locally owned company. not sure how Chinese ownership came in* - The current broadcasters will be allowed to form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to utilize their existing infrastructure. This company should be independent to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. This company will be given the first preference to a signal distribution licence. * this seems not to have happened as recommended. would have prevented the current acrimony* - Existing broadcasters who own infrastructure will negotiate commercial terms with the licensed signal distribution provider for transfer of ownership of the infrastructure.* the three broadcasters seem unwilling to pursue this as a means of recovering their "40 billion kes" investment * - A time limit be set after which broadcasters will not be allowed to operate unlicensed signal distribution services - *seems the three broadcasters have a grace period to distribute digitally*.
On 12/27/2013 11:18 AM, Watila Alex wrote:
does anyone have a copy of the digital migration task force report that the media houses are referring to in today's appeal?
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On Dec 29, 2013 11:51 AM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
But the same local firms that own the said infrastructure put in a bid
that could not pass muster. Should CCK or the government for that matter also help them prepare bid documents?
As I indicated earlier, even restricted tenders require interested firms
to meet certain basic requirements/criteria. It is really unfortunate when local firms with the required technical capacity to provide advertised licensable services lose out to foreign companies on the basis of failure to put in a convincing technical/business proposal.
I would not be surprised that the bid winners (foreign consortium ) may
have used local consultants to prepare bids for them.
You raise an important policy issue here. But local firms also need to
raise their socks in meeting the basic requirements for government tenders.
2 simple questions are not being answered. (I) Are Joint Ventures required between local and foreign firms, to develop local capacity? (II) How do current procurement laws ensure local capacity is developed?
From a political point of view, we are aware campaign funds need to be raised or recovered by all or politicians.
From: Kivuva Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2013 11:16 PM To: Ngigi Waithaka Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 29/12/2013, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
The fact that the tender was *open* is the question that is in play here and is the short-sightedness I alluded to earlier in a prior post.
We have firms with the right infrastructure (masts, generators, workers etc) already in use in this country and before we ran off to procure equivalent from China, we ought to have procured what is already available locally.
That is why the 2nd infrastrucure bid ought to have been local to
our already existing investments.
Another reason, national interest should dictate that we shouldnt rely on external parties for such critical infrastructure before we already have one from amongst our own in place.
++1 Waithaka.
But we now know someone didnt see it that way. There was no money to be made using whats already there, best to buy everything new, since the
'cut'
is likewise larger.
And how do you do that? Open Tender!
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 29 Dec 2013 09:11, "Mutua, Muthusi" <Mutua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
SM Muraya, Kenyans firms were involved. There were even two different consortiums of the local media that participated.
The only difference here is that the tender was open and not necessarily targeting local firms or local media for that matter.
I don't know of any procurement law that excludes Kenyan firms but
are certain tenders may only target local firms. The signal distributor one was open to all and the records of the participation can attest to
As I pointed out earlier, losing a tender bid is not tantamount to
being
denied a chance to participate. That's the case we are dealing with here!
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On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Mutua, Muthusi <Mutua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
There are particular tenders, even in Kenya, that are subject to demonstration of a certain percentage of local participation. This cannot, however, be used across the board even for services that don't require this kind of treatment.
Not sure when and by whom was it decided, certain critical services in Kenya do not have to involve Kenyan firms.
Do we develop local capacity through procurement laws which ensure foreign firms manage our critical local/distribution infrastructure?
Note Euro vs China Policy:
http://www.slideshare.net/IPRChina/technology-transfer-to-china-guidance-for...
Does Kenyan procurement/policy require foreign firms to engage in joint (technical) ventures with firms majority owned by Kenyans?
Suspect... Mobitelea was a case of politically "correct" ghosts getting a 5% cut in a Telco. Was it a Kenyan firm with even a small track
record
of telco/service provision in Kenya, with evidence it was committed to developing local talent and capabilities?
As we argue through, what's the definition of local media? Is it one
local player, two or three of them separately or together? Must these entities also be separately 100% Kenyan in equity? Is KBC a local media?
The media/content which enters the Kenyan home/office may originate from MARS, but the "last mile" infrastructure/frequency through which
digital content enters the home/office, is licensed/managed in Kenya.
In the finance sector is shareholding by any one individual or entity not limited to 24.99%. Kenyans should own over 50% of the firms managing signal distribution.
Let's also appreciate that unless anyone has been denied the chance to
participate in a tender, a loss of the bid doesn't amount to being barred from the process.
If being required to have prior engagements in multiple million dollar contracts is not being barred from the tendering process, then you are correct.
As it is, Tanzania has already gone digital. Does anyone know the ownership of their signal distributor? Its interesting to know that. US examples are ok but we need to put them into context. Local and regional examples may even be more relevant to our situation.
*From*: Ngigi Waithaka [mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke] *Sent*: Saturday, December 28, 2013 09:01 AM *To*: Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> *Cc*: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Subject*: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Doing some unrelated research and came across this story here http://www.jeffhead.com/usn21/p8.htm
Key point "...*However, BAE withdrew from the competition in October 2002, recognizing the political reality that its failure to locate and team with a US-based production partner made the bid unrealistic. *
*..." * Relevance, for those advocating that national interest does not matter in *critical procurement* and backing for local firms, even a large conglomerate as BAE with all the backing from Downling Street can't win a large defense contract in the US against US firms.
Another interesting read here
http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/02/28/how-boeing-won-the-tanker-war...
Regards
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
finally accessed the task force report at www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/ *migration*_*digital*_tv.pdf
the report made the flowing observations & recommendations on the digital signal distribution
- The signal distributors will provide services to broadcasters on an equitable, reasonable, non-preferential and non-discriminatory basis. - *note the distinction between broadcaster &** signal distributor*. *i was unable to find any obligation placed on broadcasters to avail their content to all the signal distributors. the three broadcasters could decide to only provide their content to their signal distribution company. * - The functions of a signal distributor were previously carried out by the broadcasters and a number of challenges come into focus since the existing broadcasters have already made significant investments in infrastructure. There has to be a mechanism to ensure that this investment is not wasted.- *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* - The high set-up costs will limit the number of signal distributors. Furthermore, signal distribution services may not penetrate to areas that are not commercially viable. - *limitation of signal distributors seems to have been based on cost of set-up and not the spectrum. according to the three broadcasters, they are able to upgrade their infrastructure to distribute digital signals at a cost that is affordable to them* - In order to reduce the cost of migration, the existing designated transmitting analogue sites and infrastructure will be used for digital transmission. - *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* - Based on the government decision to licence KBC as a signal distributor, KBC shall form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. - *Signet? shouldn't it have been a locally owned company. not sure how Chinese ownership came in* - The current broadcasters will be allowed to form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to utilize their existing infrastructure. This company should be independent to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. This company will be given the first preference to a signal distribution licence. * this seems not to have happened as recommended. would have prevented the current acrimony* - Existing broadcasters who own infrastructure will negotiate commercial terms with the licensed signal distribution provider for transfer of ownership of the infrastructure.* the three broadcasters seem unwilling to pursue this as a means of recovering their "40 billion kes" investment * - A time limit be set after which broadcasters will not be allowed to operate unlicensed signal distribution services - *seems the three broadcasters have a grace period to distribute digitally*.
On 12/27/2013 11:18 AM, Watila Alex wrote:
does anyone have a copy of the digital migration task force report that the media houses are referring to in today's appeal?
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How about from an ethical point of view? If we check this issue/greed, we reduce election related violence, where we kill for access/positions to auction public resources, while our villages/localities remain impoverished. It is wisdom (the practice of good works) we lack, not human or physical resources. protect there that. the platform privacy, platform
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Thank you Mr. Wambua for the clarification. Most of us being outsiders might not debate with the knowledge you guys have. It's good at least we appreciate the importance of local investments and the olive branch CCK is expending to them. Let's take the lessons learned in stride, maybe in future, we will be more vigilant and pragmatic. Happy new year 2014 to all. On 29/12/2013, Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
But the same local firms that own the said infrastructure put in a bid that could not pass muster. Should CCK or the government for that matter also help them prepare bid documents?
As I indicated earlier, even restricted tenders require interested firms to meet certain basic requirements/criteria. It is really unfortunate when local firms with the required technical capacity to provide advertised licensable services lose out to foreign companies on the basis of failure to put in a convincing technical/business proposal.
I would not be surprised that the bid winners (foreign consortium ) may have used local consultants to prepare bids for them.
You raise an important policy issue here. But local firms also need to raise their socks in meeting the basic requirements for government tenders.
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On 29/12/2013, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
The fact that the tender was *open* is the question that is in play here and is the short-sightedness I alluded to earlier in a prior post.
We have firms with the right infrastructure (masts, generators, workers etc) already in use in this country and before we ran off to procure equivalent from China, we ought to have procured what is already available locally.
That is why the 2nd infrastrucure bid ought to have been local to protect our already existing investments.
Another reason, national interest should dictate that we shouldnt rely on external parties for such critical infrastructure before we already have one from amongst our own in place.
++1 Waithaka.
But we now know someone didnt see it that way. There was no money to be made using whats already there, best to buy everything new, since the 'cut' is likewise larger.
And how do you do that? Open Tender!
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 29 Dec 2013 09:11, "Mutua, Muthusi" <Mutua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
SM Muraya, Kenyans firms were involved. There were even two different consortiums of the local media that participated.
The only difference here is that the tender was open and not necessarily targeting local firms or local media for that matter.
I don't know of any procurement law that excludes Kenyan firms but there are certain tenders may only target local firms. The signal distributor one was open to all and the records of the participation can attest to that.
As I pointed out earlier, losing a tender bid is not tantamount to being denied a chance to participate. That's the case we are dealing with here!
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On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Mutua, Muthusi <Mutua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
There are particular tenders, even in Kenya, that are subject to demonstration of a certain percentage of local participation. This cannot, however, be used across the board even for services that don't require this kind of treatment.
Not sure when and by whom was it decided, certain critical services in Kenya do not have to involve Kenyan firms.
Do we develop local capacity through procurement laws which ensure foreign firms manage our critical local/distribution infrastructure?
Note Euro vs China Policy: http://www.slideshare.net/IPRChina/technology-transfer-to-china-guidance-for...
Does Kenyan procurement/policy require foreign firms to engage in joint (technical) ventures with firms majority owned by Kenyans?
Suspect... Mobitelea was a case of politically "correct" ghosts getting a 5% cut in a Telco. Was it a Kenyan firm with even a small track record of telco/service provision in Kenya, with evidence it was committed to developing local talent and capabilities?
local player, two or three of them separately or together? Must these entities also be separately 100% Kenyan in equity? Is KBC a local media?
The media/content which enters the Kenyan home/office may originate from MARS, but the "last mile" infrastructure/frequency through which
As we argue through, what's the definition of local media? Is it one the digital content enters the home/office, is licensed/managed in Kenya.
In the finance sector is shareholding by any one individual or entity not limited to 24.99%. Kenyans should own over 50% of the firms managing signal distribution.
Let's also appreciate that unless anyone has been denied the chance to
participate in a tender, a loss of the bid doesn't amount to being barred from the process.
If being required to have prior engagements in multiple million dollar contracts is not being barred from the tendering process, then you are correct.
As it is, Tanzania has already gone digital. Does anyone know the ownership of their signal distributor? Its interesting to know that. US examples are ok but we need to put them into context. Local and regional examples may even be more relevant to our situation.
*From*: Ngigi Waithaka [mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke] *Sent*: Saturday, December 28, 2013 09:01 AM *To*: Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> *Cc*: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Subject*: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Doing some unrelated research and came across this story here http://www.jeffhead.com/usn21/p8.htm
Key point "...*However, BAE withdrew from the competition in October 2002, recognizing the political reality that its failure to locate and team with a US-based production partner made the bid unrealistic. *
*..." * Relevance, for those advocating that national interest does not matter in *critical procurement* and backing for local firms, even a large conglomerate as BAE with all the backing from Downling Street can't win a large defense contract in the US against US firms.
Another interesting read here
http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/02/28/how-boeing-won-the-tanker-war...
Regards
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Watila Alex <awatila@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
finally accessed the task force report at www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/ *migration*_*digital*_tv.pdf
the report made the flowing observations & recommendations on the digital signal distribution
- The signal distributors will provide services to broadcasters on an equitable, reasonable, non-preferential and non-discriminatory basis. - *note the distinction between broadcaster &** signal distributor*. *i was unable to find any obligation placed on broadcasters to avail their content to all the signal distributors. the three broadcasters could decide to only provide their content to their signal distribution company. * - The functions of a signal distributor were previously carried out by the broadcasters and a number of challenges come into focus since the existing broadcasters have already made significant investments in infrastructure. There has to be a mechanism to ensure that this investment is not wasted.- *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* - The high set-up costs will limit the number of signal distributors. Furthermore, signal distribution services may not penetrate to areas that are not commercially viable. - *limitation of signal distributors seems to have been based on cost of set-up and not the spectrum. according to the three broadcasters, they are able to upgrade their infrastructure to distribute digital signals at a cost that is affordable to them* - In order to reduce the cost of migration, the existing designated transmitting analogue sites and infrastructure will be used for digital transmission. - *this has been the argument of the three broadcasters.* - Based on the government decision to licence KBC as a signal distributor, KBC shall form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. - *Signet? shouldn't it have been a locally owned company. not sure how Chinese ownership came in* - The current broadcasters will be allowed to form an independent company to run the signal distribution services in order to utilize their existing infrastructure. This company should be independent to avoid conflict of interests or cross subsidies. This company will be given the first preference to a signal distribution licence. * this seems not to have happened as recommended. would have prevented the current acrimony* - Existing broadcasters who own infrastructure will negotiate commercial terms with the licensed signal distribution provider for transfer of ownership of the infrastructure.* the three broadcasters seem unwilling to pursue this as a means of recovering their "40 billion kes" investment * - A time limit be set after which broadcasters will not be allowed to operate unlicensed signal distribution services - *seems the three broadcasters have a grace period to distribute digitally*.
On 12/27/2013 11:18 AM, Watila Alex wrote:
does anyone have a copy of the digital migration task force report that the media houses are referring to in today's appeal?
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On 29 December 2013 10:42, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
The fact that the tender was *open* is the question that is in play here and is the short-sightedness I alluded to earlier in a prior post.
We have firms with the right infrastructure (masts, generators, workers etc) already in use in this country and before we ran off to procure equivalent from China, we ought to have procured what is already available locally.
That is why the 2nd infrastrucure bid ought to have been local to protect our already existing investments.
Another reason, national interest should dictate that we shouldnt rely on external parties for such critical infrastructure before we already have one from amongst our own in place.
But we now know someone didnt see it that way. There was no money to be made using whats already there, best to buy everything new, since the 'cut' is likewise larger.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And how do you do that? Open Tender!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ As you all continue to propel this debate forward with what is otherwise the right way of doing things, just keep at the back of your minds what Ngigi Waithaka has said, and which nails it. The real truth is as underlined above. We all know this is the truth, but still prefer to waste our time trying to find out 'WHY' - and that is good for us as it might inform how we do things in the future. Road Construction, Signal Distribution, Coal Mining, Standard Gauge Railway are all products of 'looking East'. They too look at Africa for the same reasons we look East - scratch my back, oil my palm... Who still doesn't understand how the Chinese do business? Right now, it's CCK on the spotlight. Yes, this is an IT forum, but guys, think outside the box! Now back to 'listening mode'... I love the discourse. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
I am of the opinion that we locals love complaining to some amorphous creature we call the govt. Most other places the private sector spends truckloads of cash lobbying the politicians and bureaucrats for favourable policies. Seeing as they are the biggest taxpayers anyway this is understood. That there is corruption involved is obvious. However corruption is a system that can be used for their benefit. Why the media did not win the second license is more of their incompetence than an act of sidelining by govt. Their combined financial might, being existing operators and govt contact should have made this a no brainer. But here we are asking for a 3rd license and in due time a 4th one will be 'demanded'. On Dec 31, 2013 10:04 AM, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On 29 December 2013 10:42, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
The fact that the tender was *open* is the question that is in play here and is the short-sightedness I alluded to earlier in a prior post.
We have firms with the right infrastructure (masts, generators, workers etc) already in use in this country and before we ran off to procure equivalent from China, we ought to have procured what is already available locally.
That is why the 2nd infrastrucure bid ought to have been local to protect our already existing investments.
Another reason, national interest should dictate that we shouldnt rely on external parties for such critical infrastructure before we already have one from amongst our own in place.
But we now know someone didnt see it that way. There was no money to be made using whats already there, best to buy everything new, since the 'cut' is likewise larger.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And how do you do that? Open Tender!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
As you all continue to propel this debate forward with what is otherwise the right way of doing things, just keep at the back of your minds what Ngigi Waithaka has said, and which nails it. The real truth is as underlined above. We all know this is the truth, but still prefer to waste our time trying to find out 'WHY' - and that is good for us as it might inform how we do things in the future. Road Construction, Signal Distribution, Coal Mining, Standard Gauge Railway are all products of 'looking East'. They too look at Africa for the same reasons we look East - scratch my back, oil my palm... Who still doesn't understand how the Chinese do business?
Right now, it's CCK on the spotlight. Yes, this is an IT forum, but guys, think outside the box!
Now back to 'listening mode'... I love the discourse.
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How about Home tender Document Fees; Do you get what you pay for? How about if the tender is canceled do people get refunded??? On Jan 1, 2014 7:31 AM, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I am of the opinion that we locals love complaining to some amorphous creature we call the govt. Most other places the private sector spends truckloads of cash lobbying the politicians and bureaucrats for favourable policies. Seeing as they are the biggest taxpayers anyway this is understood. That there is corruption involved is obvious. However corruption is a system that can be used for their benefit. Why the media did not win the second license is more of their incompetence than an act of sidelining by govt. Their combined financial might, being existing operators and govt contact should have made this a no brainer. But here we are asking for a 3rd license and in due time a 4th one will be 'demanded'. On Dec 31, 2013 10:04 AM, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On 29 December 2013 10:42, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
The fact that the tender was *open* is the question that is in play here and is the short-sightedness I alluded to earlier in a prior post.
We have firms with the right infrastructure (masts, generators, workers etc) already in use in this country and before we ran off to procure equivalent from China, we ought to have procured what is already available locally.
That is why the 2nd infrastrucure bid ought to have been local to protect our already existing investments.
Another reason, national interest should dictate that we shouldnt rely on external parties for such critical infrastructure before we already have one from amongst our own in place.
But we now know someone didnt see it that way. There was no money to be made using whats already there, best to buy everything new, since the 'cut' is likewise larger.
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And how do you do that? Open Tender!
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As you all continue to propel this debate forward with what is otherwise the right way of doing things, just keep at the back of your minds what Ngigi Waithaka has said, and which nails it. The real truth is as underlined above. We all know this is the truth, but still prefer to waste our time trying to find out 'WHY' - and that is good for us as it might inform how we do things in the future. Road Construction, Signal Distribution, Coal Mining, Standard Gauge Railway are all products of 'looking East'. They too look at Africa for the same reasons we look East - scratch my back, oil my palm... Who still doesn't understand how the Chinese do business?
Right now, it's CCK on the spotlight. Yes, this is an IT forum, but guys, think outside the box!
Now back to 'listening mode'... I love the discourse.
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Mark - you are right on the money ! Happy new year Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 16:30:43 +0300 From: mwangy@gmail.com Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling CC: cpa@cck.go.ke; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: lnjogu@hotmail.com I am of the opinion that we locals love complaining to some amorphous creature we call the govt. Most other places the private sector spends truckloads of cash lobbying the politicians and bureaucrats for favourable policies. Seeing as they are the biggest taxpayers anyway this is understood. That there is corruption involved is obvious. However corruption is a system that can be used for their benefit. Why the media did not win the second license is more of their incompetence than an act of sidelining by govt. Their combined financial might, being existing operators and govt contact should have made this a no brainer. But here we are asking for a 3rd license and in due time a 4th one will be 'demanded'. On Dec 31, 2013 10:04 AM, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: On 29 December 2013 10:42, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: The fact that the tender was *open* is the question that is in play here and is the short-sightedness I alluded to earlier in a prior post. We have firms with the right infrastructure (masts, generators, workers etc) already in use in this country and before we ran off to procure equivalent from China, we ought to have procured what is already available locally. That is why the 2nd infrastrucure bid ought to have been local to protect our already existing investments. Another reason, national interest should dictate that we shouldnt rely on external parties for such critical infrastructure before we already have one from amongst our own in place. But we now know someone didnt see it that way. There was no money to be made using whats already there, best to buy everything new, since the 'cut' is likewise larger.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ And how do you do that? Open Tender!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ As you all continue to propel this debate forward with what is otherwise the right way of doing things, just keep at the back of your minds what Ngigi Waithaka has said, and which nails it. The real truth is as underlined above. We all know this is the truth, but still prefer to waste our time trying to find out 'WHY' - and that is good for us as it might inform how we do things in the future. Road Construction, Signal Distribution, Coal Mining, Standard Gauge Railway are all products of 'looking East'. They too look at Africa for the same reasons we look East - scratch my back, oil my palm... Who still doesn't understand how the Chinese do business? Right now, it's CCK on the spotlight. Yes, this is an IT forum, but guys, think outside the box! Now back to 'listening mode'... I love the discourse. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mwangy%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/lnjogu%40hotmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Ali, I'm afraid many listers are not getting your argument, that of auctioning our critical resources to foreigners. Many of us have been dragged into taking sides either for the government (CCK), or the local media houses. If we divorce them from this debate, maybe we will be more objective. Let me digress, we have enough coal in Kitui to setup a powerplant that can propell Kenya to vision 2030 and stop relying on poor rainfall and other unreliable renewable energy like geothermal. But what did we do with the coal? We auctioned it to the Chinese "who need the power more than us." That is the same thing happening to our spectrum resources. Forget about procurement laws and let's think about economics that will build the country without taking sides. Is it better to give the frequency distribution to a local firm, and keep local dollars local, or is it better to have that capital flight to China? We should even give the third licence FREE to a consortium of local firms than auction it for a Billion dollars to a foreigner. Are we a nation that has lost national pride? Remember CCK cannot have an objective stand on this since Wambua has to respond with the official government position, and I cannot fault him for that. Only civil society can take the high moral ground and do what is good for Kenya. Advocate for our critical resources, airwaves, minerals, tourism, ... to be controlled by locals. Dr. Ndemo is the economist on the list. Can he teach us why developed economies work so hard to support their industries, while Kenya works extra hard to support foreign economies? What are the repercussions on future generations? Anybody who cannot get this argument is beyond uncolonization. -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
Kivuva, Iam a supporter of building local capacities but whichever way CCK would have given out the license, there was going to be criticism. CCK wanted someone capable of putting up infrastructure after we discovered Signet was taking too long and Government did not have money. The financial bid for all the local firms did not measure up to what CCK had requested. You realize CCK has gone through this journey before and were hit hard when policy requirement needed 70 percent local participation, we got Mobitelea. Every policy pronouncement has some wheeler dealers behind singing patriotism. World over what is needed is the ability to provide the solution. You read the other day that China Telcom was partnering with I-Phone yet China is the greatest producer of mobile handsets. There comes a time when we must accept partnerships that will help us build capacity. We provided that opportunity in Signet but it was declined. When you focus on coverage to offer essential service, you look at capability as demonstrated in the financials. For many years we protected KPTC as a critical infrastructure but what we ended up with was poverty en masse. Our people would not afford telephony. Ever since we liberalized the communications sector, it is now contributing more than 5 percent to the economy up from zero percent. It is dangerous to focus on one aspect of migration infrastructure. If each of the broadcaster is given multiplexing ability, they will hoard the spectrum and shut out new entrants just when the creative economy is trying to pick up. The current Media is simply trying to protect its own interests considering the fact that we have new hard working Kenyans entering the broadcast arena. Why would we be supportive of oligopolistic practices when the industry is opening up to more players? Court or no court Migration will take place and new business models will emerge. This is where we need to focus our attention. The delaying tactics you are seeing is to disenfranchise more than 100 new broadcasters that are born and bred in this country. I said before and would state here that not even Signet or PANG would build a sustainable business model without serious content aggregation strategy considering the fact that technology changes every 3 years. Ndemo.
Ali, I'm afraid many listers are not getting your argument, that of auctioning our critical resources to foreigners.
Many of us have been dragged into taking sides either for the government (CCK), or the local media houses. If we divorce them from this debate, maybe we will be more objective.
Let me digress, we have enough coal in Kitui to setup a powerplant that can propell Kenya to vision 2030 and stop relying on poor rainfall and other unreliable renewable energy like geothermal. But what did we do with the coal? We auctioned it to the Chinese "who need the power more than us." That is the same thing happening to our spectrum resources.
Forget about procurement laws and let's think about economics that will build the country without taking sides. Is it better to give the frequency distribution to a local firm, and keep local dollars local, or is it better to have that capital flight to China? We should even give the third licence FREE to a consortium of local firms than auction it for a Billion dollars to a foreigner.
Are we a nation that has lost national pride?
Remember CCK cannot have an objective stand on this since Wambua has to respond with the official government position, and I cannot fault him for that. Only civil society can take the high moral ground and do what is good for Kenya. Advocate for our critical resources, airwaves, minerals, tourism, ... to be controlled by locals.
Dr. Ndemo is the economist on the list. Can he teach us why developed economies work so hard to support their industries, while Kenya works extra hard to support foreign economies? What are the repercussions on future generations?
Anybody who cannot get this argument is beyond uncolonization.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
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Daktari, Having looked at your comments, I would want to think the comparisons you have picked do not quite cut it. Fact, we currently have firms in Kenya apart from KBC who have a reliable analogue transmission network across the entire country and so far they have delivered on this. To upgrade this transmission network to pump out Digital Signals, instead of the Analogue is not rocket science. It can be done easily and would reuse such existing infrastrucure such as sites, masts, backup generators, logistics & security etc To say or assume that these firms could *not* provide a Digital Solution if asked to, simply does not add up. Not when they have 60% of what you need and the remaining parts e.g multiplexers, antennas are off-the-shelf parts. Second, to compare these firms to Mobitelea is really pushing it. Here you are talking of firms that have demostrated capacity in building & maintaining their own infrastructure and that are employing Kenyans to maintain and operate them. These are not politically connected individuals who have nothing else to offer apart from access to high places. These are solid Kenyan companies. Thirdly, this case cannot even be remotely compared to KPTC where competition had to be introduced to kickstart our Telco Sector. In this case you are actually consolidating the *infrastructure* industry to a single vendor not liberating it. You are going from more than 10 firms each with own transmission infrastrucure to two firms, one of which (KBC) as you have correctly indicated doesn't cut it. So infact you have consolidated our entire transmission industry into a single company, and then given that to the Chinese! If there is something that smells Mobitelea. That is it! Fourth you mention the China Telcom partnering up with Apple iPhone as an example of how countries sometimes partner with firms outside their own. But you fail to mention they never went to Apple as their first point of call. They first partnered up with Lenovo, HTC, Huawei (solid Chines firms) before the call to Cupertino was made. You take care of your own first before you go taking care of others. That's what smart countries & leadership does. Lastly, please let us differentiate btn the Infrastructure issues and Digital Migration issues. On Digital migration, we are headed there and there is not much support for Media firms on this. Wapende wasipende! However, on denying them the deal to build the Digital Infrastructure is very questionable and on the very least points to a certain 'Mobitelea' type deal, exactly what you say we ought to have avoided. But then again, This is Kenya. Where the impossible happens. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 29 Dec 2013 21:36, "Bitange Ndemo" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Kivuva, Iam a supporter of building local capacities but whichever way CCK would have given out the license, there was going to be criticism. CCK wanted someone capable of putting up infrastructure after we discovered Signet was taking too long and Government did not have money. The financial bid for all the local firms did not measure up to what CCK had requested.
You realize CCK has gone through this journey before and were hit hard when policy requirement needed 70 percent local participation, we got Mobitelea. Every policy pronouncement has some wheeler dealers behind singing patriotism. World over what is needed is the ability to provide the solution. You read the other day that China Telcom was partnering with I-Phone yet China is the greatest producer of mobile handsets. There comes a time when we must accept partnerships that will help us build capacity. We provided that opportunity in Signet but it was declined. When you focus on coverage to offer essential service, you look at capability as demonstrated in the financials.
For many years we protected KPTC as a critical infrastructure but what we ended up with was poverty en masse. Our people would not afford telephony. Ever since we liberalized the communications sector, it is now contributing more than 5 percent to the economy up from zero percent. It is dangerous to focus on one aspect of migration infrastructure. If each of the broadcaster is given multiplexing ability, they will hoard the spectrum and shut out new entrants just when the creative economy is trying to pick up. The current Media is simply trying to protect its own interests considering the fact that we have new hard working Kenyans entering the broadcast arena. Why would we be supportive of oligopolistic practices when the industry is opening up to more players?
Court or no court Migration will take place and new business models will emerge. This is where we need to focus our attention. The delaying tactics you are seeing is to disenfranchise more than 100 new broadcasters that are born and bred in this country. I said before and would state here that not even Signet or PANG would build a sustainable business model without serious content aggregation strategy considering the fact that technology changes every 3 years.
Ndemo.
Ali, I'm afraid many listers are not getting your argument, that of auctioning our critical resources to foreigners.
Many of us have been dragged into taking sides either for the government (CCK), or the local media houses. If we divorce them from this debate, maybe we will be more objective.
Let me digress, we have enough coal in Kitui to setup a powerplant that can propell Kenya to vision 2030 and stop relying on poor rainfall and other unreliable renewable energy like geothermal. But what did we do with the coal? We auctioned it to the Chinese "who need the power more than us." That is the same thing happening to our spectrum resources.
Forget about procurement laws and let's think about economics that will build the country without taking sides. Is it better to give the frequency distribution to a local firm, and keep local dollars local, or is it better to have that capital flight to China? We should even give the third licence FREE to a consortium of local firms than auction it for a Billion dollars to a foreigner.
Are we a nation that has lost national pride?
Remember CCK cannot have an objective stand on this since Wambua has to respond with the official government position, and I cannot fault him for that. Only civil society can take the high moral ground and do what is good for Kenya. Advocate for our critical resources, airwaves, minerals, tourism, ... to be controlled by locals.
Dr. Ndemo is the economist on the list. Can he teach us why developed economies work so hard to support their industries, while Kenya works extra hard to support foreign economies? What are the repercussions on future generations?
Anybody who cannot get this argument is beyond uncolonization.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
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@Ngigi, @Ndemo, this is the hard-talk that keeps me coming back to KICTAnet :-) my 2pence is that this war is NOT about digital migration - given that both Government and Media houses agree on that. This was is about who controls the digital signal distribution (licence). Its sort of a chicken and egg problem in that the current digital signal distributors (Signet/PANG) dont have "local" content but have the license to distribute. While the current local content guys (media houses) have the content but lack the digital license to distribute. A license without content is like a gun without a bullet. A bullet without a gun is of no use either. Who will blink first? Afrosinema continues :-) walu. -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 12/30/13, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "Consumer and Public Affairs" <cpa@cck.go.ke>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, December 30, 2013, 9:32 AM Daktari, Having looked at your comments, I would want to think the comparisons you have picked do not quite cut it. Fact, we currently have firms in Kenya apart from KBC who have a reliable analogue transmission network across the entire country and so far they have delivered on this. To upgrade this transmission network to pump out Digital Signals, instead of the Analogue is not rocket science. It can be done easily and would reuse such existing infrastrucure such as sites, masts, backup generators, logistics & security etc To say or assume that these firms could *not* provide a Digital Solution if asked to, simply does not add up. Not when they have 60% of what you need and the remaining parts e.g multiplexers, antennas are off-the-shelf parts. Second, to compare these firms to Mobitelea is really pushing it. Here you are talking of firms that have demostrated capacity in building & maintaining their own infrastructure and that are employing Kenyans to maintain and operate them. These are not politically connected individuals who have nothing else to offer apart from access to high places. These are solid Kenyan companies. Thirdly, this case cannot even be remotely compared to KPTC where competition had to be introduced to kickstart our Telco Sector. In this case you are actually consolidating the *infrastructure* industry to a single vendor not liberating it. You are going from more than 10 firms each with own transmission infrastrucure to two firms, one of which (KBC) as you have correctly indicated doesn't cut it. So infact you have consolidated our entire transmission industry into a single company, and then given that to the Chinese! If there is something that smells Mobitelea. That is it! Fourth you mention the China Telcom partnering up with Apple iPhone as an example of how countries sometimes partner with firms outside their own. But you fail to mention they never went to Apple as their first point of call. They first partnered up with Lenovo, HTC, Huawei (solid Chines firms) before the call to Cupertino was made. You take care of your own first before you go taking care of others. That's what smart countries & leadership does. Lastly, please let us differentiate btn the Infrastructure issues and Digital Migration issues. On Digital migration, we are headed there and there is not much support for Media firms on this. Wapende wasipende! However, on denying them the deal to build the Digital Infrastructure is very questionable and on the very least points to a certain 'Mobitelea' type deal, exactly what you say we ought to have avoided. But then again, This is Kenya. Where the impossible happens. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 29 Dec 2013 21:36, "Bitange Ndemo" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote: Kivuva, Iam a supporter of building local capacities but whichever way CCK would have given out the license, there was going to be criticism. CCK wanted someone capable of putting up infrastructure after we discovered Signet was taking too long and Government did not have money. The financial bid for all the local firms did not measure up to what CCK had requested. You realize CCK has gone through this journey before and were hit hard when policy requirement needed 70 percent local participation, we got Mobitelea. Every policy pronouncement has some wheeler dealers behind singing patriotism. World over what is needed is the ability to provide the solution. You read the other day that China Telcom was partnering with I-Phone yet China is the greatest producer of mobile handsets. There comes a time when we must accept partnerships that will help us build capacity. We provided that opportunity in Signet but it was declined. When you focus on coverage to offer essential service, you look at capability as demonstrated in the financials. For many years we protected KPTC as a critical infrastructure but what we ended up with was poverty en masse. Our people would not afford telephony. Ever since we liberalized the communications sector, it is now contributing more than 5 percent to the economy up from zero percent. It is dangerous to focus on one aspect of migration infrastructure. If each of the broadcaster is given multiplexing ability, they will hoard the spectrum and shut out new entrants just when the creative economy is trying to pick up. The current Media is simply trying to protect its own interests considering the fact that we have new hard working Kenyans entering the broadcast arena. Why would we be supportive of oligopolistic practices when the industry is opening up to more players? Court or no court Migration will take place and new business models will emerge. This is where we need to focus our attention. The delaying tactics you are seeing is to disenfranchise more than 100 new broadcasters that are born and bred in this country. I said before and would state here that not even Signet or PANG would build a sustainable business model without serious content aggregation strategy considering the fact that technology changes every 3 years. Ndemo.
Ali, I'm afraid many listers are not getting your argument, that of
auctioning our critical resources to foreigners.
Many of us have been dragged into taking sides either for the
government (CCK), or the local media houses. If we divorce them from
this debate, maybe we will be more objective.
Let me digress, we have enough coal in Kitui to setup a
powerplant
that can propell Kenya to vision 2030 and stop relying on poor
rainfall and other unreliable renewable energy like geothermal. But
what did we do with the coal? We auctioned it to the Chinese "who need
the power more than us." That is the same thing happening to our
spectrum resources.
Forget about procurement laws and let's think about economics that
will build the country without taking sides. Is it better to give the
frequency distribution to a local firm, and keep local dollars local,
or is it better to have that capital flight to China? We should even
give the third licence FREE to a consortium of local firms than
auction it for a Billion dollars to a foreigner.
Are we a nation that has lost national pride?
Remember CCK cannot have an objective stand on this since Wambua has
to respond with the official government position, and I cannot fault
him for that. Only civil society can take the high moral ground and do
what is good for Kenya. Advocate for our critical resources, airwaves,
minerals, tourism, ... to be controlled by locals.
Dr. Ndemo is the economist on the list. Can he teach us why developed
economies work so hard to support their industries, while Kenya works
extra hard to support foreign economies? What are the repercussions on
future generations?
Anybody who cannot get this argument is beyond uncolonization.
--
______________________
Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
twitter.com/lordmwesh
kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know
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Walubengo, They actually do not really have the content. Most of them ignored putting in place content production initiatives and opted to license n pay poorly for the content they air now. International and local companies have the content. The framework cck is implementing ensures that these real owners of the content can establish a tv channel quick and easy.....and that is the great fear these media houses have. On 30 Dec 2013 10:36, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Ngigi, @Ndemo,
this is the hard-talk that keeps me coming back to KICTAnet :-)
my 2pence is that this war is NOT about digital migration - given that both Government and Media houses agree on that. This was is about who controls the digital signal distribution (licence). Its sort of a chicken and egg problem in that the current digital signal distributors (Signet/PANG) dont have "local" content but have the license to distribute. While the current local content guys (media houses) have the content but lack the digital license to distribute.
A license without content is like a gun without a bullet. A bullet without a gun is of no use either. Who will blink first?
Afrosinema continues :-)
walu.
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Daktari, Having looked at your comments, I would want to think the comparisons you have picked do not quite cut it. Fact, we currently have firms in Kenya apart from KBC who have a reliable analogue transmission network across the entire country and so far they have delivered on this. To upgrade this transmission network to pump out Digital Signals, instead of the Analogue is not rocket science. It can be done easily and would reuse such existing infrastrucure such as sites, masts, backup generators, logistics & security etc
To say or assume that these firms could *not* provide a Digital Solution if asked to, simply does not add up. Not when they have 60% of what you need and the remaining parts e.g multiplexers, antennas are off-the-shelf parts.
Second, to compare these firms to Mobitelea is really pushing it. Here you are talking of firms that have demostrated capacity in building & maintaining their own infrastructure and that are employing Kenyans to maintain and operate them.
These are not politically connected individuals who have nothing else to offer apart from access to high places. These are solid Kenyan companies. Thirdly, this case cannot even be remotely compared to KPTC where competition had to be introduced to kickstart our Telco Sector. In this case you are actually consolidating the *infrastructure* industry to a single vendor not liberating it.
You are going from more than 10 firms each with own transmission infrastrucure to two firms, one of which (KBC) as you have correctly indicated doesn't cut it.
So infact you have consolidated our entire transmission industry into a single company, and then given that to the Chinese! If there is something that smells Mobitelea. That is it! Fourth you mention the China Telcom partnering up with Apple iPhone as an example of how countries sometimes partner with firms outside their own. But you fail to mention they never went to Apple as their first point of call. They first partnered up with Lenovo, HTC, Huawei (solid Chines firms) before the call to Cupertino was made.
You take care of your own first before you go taking care of others. That's what smart countries & leadership does. Lastly, please let us differentiate btn the Infrastructure issues and Digital Migration issues. On Digital migration, we are headed there and there is not much support for Media firms on this. Wapende wasipende! However, on denying them the deal to build the Digital Infrastructure is very questionable and on the very least points to a certain 'Mobitelea' type deal, exactly what you say we ought to have avoided.
But then again, This is Kenya. Where the impossible happens. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies
Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 29 Dec 2013 21:36, "Bitange Ndemo" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Kivuva,
Iam a supporter of building local capacities but whichever way CCK would
have given out the license, there was going to be criticism. CCK wanted
someone capable of putting up infrastructure after we discovered Signet
was taking too long and Government did not have money. The financial bid
for all the local firms did not measure up to what CCK had requested.
You realize CCK has gone through this journey before and were hit hard
when policy requirement needed 70 percent local participation, we got
Mobitelea. Every policy pronouncement has some wheeler dealers behind
singing patriotism. World over what is needed is the ability to provide
the solution. You read the other day that China Telcom was partnering
with I-Phone yet China is the greatest producer of mobile handsets. There
comes a time when we must accept partnerships that will help us build
capacity. We provided that opportunity in Signet but it was declined.
When you focus on coverage to offer essential service, you look at
capability as demonstrated in the financials.
For many years we protected KPTC as a critical infrastructure but what we
ended up with was poverty en masse. Our people would not afford
telephony. Ever since we liberalized the communications sector, it is now
contributing more than 5 percent to the economy up from zero percent. It
is dangerous to focus on one aspect of migration infrastructure. If each
of the broadcaster is given multiplexing ability, they will hoard the
spectrum and shut out new entrants just when the creative economy is
trying to pick up. The current Media is simply trying to protect its own
interests considering the fact that we have new hard working Kenyans
entering the broadcast arena. Why would we be supportive of oligopolistic
practices when the industry is opening up to more players?
Court or no court Migration will take place and new business models will
emerge. This is where we need to focus our attention. The delaying
tactics you are seeing is to disenfranchise more than 100 new broadcasters
that are born and bred in this country. I said before and would state
here that not even Signet or PANG would build a sustainable business model
without serious content aggregation strategy considering the fact that
technology changes every 3 years.
Ndemo.
Ali, I'm afraid many listers are not getting your argument, that of
auctioning our critical resources to foreigners.
Many of us have been dragged into taking sides either for the
government (CCK), or the local media houses. If we divorce them from
this debate, maybe we will be more objective.
Let me digress, we have enough coal in Kitui to setup a powerplant
that can propell Kenya to vision 2030 and stop relying on poor
rainfall and other unreliable renewable energy like geothermal. But
what did we do with the coal? We auctioned it to the Chinese "who need
the power more than us." That is the same thing happening to our
spectrum resources.
Forget about procurement laws and let's think about economics that
will build the country without taking sides. Is it better to give the
frequency distribution to a local firm, and keep local dollars local,
or is it better to have that capital flight to China? We should even
give the third licence FREE to a consortium of local firms than
auction it for a Billion dollars to a foreigner.
Are we a nation that has lost national pride?
Remember CCK cannot have an objective stand on this since Wambua has
to respond with the official government position, and I cannot fault
him for that. Only civil society can take the high moral ground and do
what is good for Kenya. Advocate for our critical resources, airwaves,
minerals, tourism, ... to be controlled by locals.
Dr. Ndemo is the economist on the list. Can he teach us why developed
economies work so hard to support their industries, while Kenya works
extra hard to support foreign economies? What are the repercussions on
future generations?
Anybody who cannot get this argument is beyond uncolonization.
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Point is... we have contracted/licensed foreigners to control .KE Info Infrastructure, as if it is like outsourcing Road Construction. Expected Response: "Kenyan firms do not know how to respond to tenders... cannot write essays/proposals well.." It follows persons who look down on their fellow Kenyans/Africans cannot build market oriented Kenyan/African firms. Political brokers/foreign firms do better in winning government contracts than in serving the markets they seek to exploit (not benefit). They often hire evil parties to run interference/propaganda against local initiatives, on lists such as this - sometimes using pseudo names. Which laws/existing contracts ensure local capacity and talent is developed? www. Links/Transparency will be appreciated. No patriot can argue against foreign investments which bring manufacturing plants/knowledge to benefit our nation and region. We oppose one way tickets/contracts for foreigners (in cahoots with public officials) to ignore local initiatives/investments. Think about it, foreigners can easily run away, unlike the Kenyan with dark skin who has to beg for a VISA to enter developed nations. What do we end up with for favoring foreigners (fronted by public officials who favored them)? Anglo Leasing..Ghosts in some far away land.. we cannot prosecute for failing to deliver forensic labs and information systems/services. At least the Kenyan firm can be shamed in court for not delivering services... even the Judges are corrupted by the .co.ke. ******** Way forward... .GO.KE, favors Signet and keeps the offer "OPEN" to interested local firms to buy shares in Signet. These KENYAN firms are likely to already develop, localize and demonstrate technical capacity. Equipment can be sourced from China, S,Korea, or Japan, but, the usage of that equipment to distribute/broadcast digital signals must be done by a Kenyan firm/entity. Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Ngigi, @Ndemo,
this is the hard-talk that keeps me coming back to KICTAnet :-)
my 2pence is that this war is NOT about digital migration - given that both Government and Media houses agree on that. This was is about who controls the digital signal distribution (licence). Its sort of a chicken and egg problem in that the current digital signal distributors (Signet/PANG) dont have "local" content but have the license to distribute. While the current local content guys (media houses) have the content but lack the digital license to distribute.
A license without content is like a gun without a bullet. A bullet without a gun is of no use either. Who will blink first?
Afrosinema continues :-)
walu.
-------------------------------------------- On Mon, 12/30/13, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "Consumer and Public Affairs" <cpa@cck.go.ke>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, December 30, 2013, 9:32 AM
Daktari, Having looked at your comments, I would want to think the comparisons you have picked do not quite cut it. Fact, we currently have firms in Kenya apart from KBC who have a reliable analogue transmission network across the entire country and so far they have delivered on this. To upgrade this transmission network to pump out Digital Signals, instead of the Analogue is not rocket science. It can be done easily and would reuse such existing infrastrucure such as sites, masts, backup generators, logistics & security etc
To say or assume that these firms could *not* provide a Digital Solution if asked to, simply does not add up. Not when they have 60% of what you need and the remaining parts e.g multiplexers, antennas are off-the-shelf parts.
Second, to compare these firms to Mobitelea is really pushing it. Here you are talking of firms that have demostrated capacity in building & maintaining their own infrastructure and that are employing Kenyans to maintain and operate them.
These are not politically connected individuals who have nothing else to offer apart from access to high places. These are solid Kenyan companies. Thirdly, this case cannot even be remotely compared to KPTC where competition had to be introduced to kickstart our Telco Sector. In this case you are actually consolidating the *infrastructure* industry to a single vendor not liberating it.
You are going from more than 10 firms each with own transmission infrastrucure to two firms, one of which (KBC) as you have correctly indicated doesn't cut it.
So infact you have consolidated our entire transmission industry into a single company, and then given that to the Chinese! If there is something that smells Mobitelea. That is it! Fourth you mention the China Telcom partnering up with Apple iPhone as an example of how countries sometimes partner with firms outside their own. But you fail to mention they never went to Apple as their first point of call. They first partnered up with Lenovo, HTC, Huawei (solid Chines firms) before the call to Cupertino was made.
You take care of your own first before you go taking care of others. That's what smart countries & leadership does. Lastly, please let us differentiate btn the Infrastructure issues and Digital Migration issues. On Digital migration, we are headed there and there is not much support for Media firms on this. Wapende wasipende! However, on denying them the deal to build the Digital Infrastructure is very questionable and on the very least points to a certain 'Mobitelea' type deal, exactly what you say we ought to have avoided.
But then again, This is Kenya. Where the impossible happens. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies
Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 29 Dec 2013 21:36, "Bitange Ndemo" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Kivuva,
Iam a supporter of building local capacities but whichever way CCK would
have given out the license, there was going to be criticism. CCK wanted
someone capable of putting up infrastructure after we discovered Signet
was taking too long and Government did not have money. The financial bid
for all the local firms did not measure up to what CCK had requested.
You realize CCK has gone through this journey before and were hit hard
when policy requirement needed 70 percent local participation, we got
Mobitelea. Every policy pronouncement has some wheeler dealers behind
singing patriotism. World over what is needed is the ability to provide
the solution. You read the other day that China Telcom was partnering
with I-Phone yet China is the greatest producer of mobile handsets. There
comes a time when we must accept partnerships that will help us build
capacity. We provided that opportunity in Signet but it was declined.
When you focus on coverage to offer essential service, you look at
capability as demonstrated in the financials.
For many years we protected KPTC as a critical infrastructure but what we
ended up with was poverty en masse. Our people would not afford
telephony. Ever since we liberalized the communications sector, it is now
contributing more than 5 percent to the economy up from zero percent. It
is dangerous to focus on one aspect of migration infrastructure. If each
of the broadcaster is given multiplexing ability, they will hoard the
spectrum and shut out new entrants just when the creative economy is
trying to pick up. The current Media is simply trying to protect its own
interests considering the fact that we have new hard working Kenyans
entering the broadcast arena. Why would we be supportive of oligopolistic
practices when the industry is opening up to more players?
Court or no court Migration will take place and new business models will
emerge. This is where we need to focus our attention. The delaying
tactics you are seeing is to disenfranchise more than 100 new broadcasters
that are born and bred in this country. I said before and would state
here that not even Signet or PANG would build a sustainable business model
without serious content aggregation strategy considering the fact that
technology changes every 3 years.
Ndemo.
Ali, I'm afraid many listers are not getting your argument, that of
auctioning our critical resources to foreigners.
Many of us have been dragged into taking sides either for the
government (CCK), or the local media houses. If we divorce them from
this debate, maybe we will be more objective.
Let me digress, we have enough coal in Kitui to setup a powerplant
that can propell Kenya to vision 2030 and stop relying on poor
rainfall and other unreliable renewable energy like geothermal. But
what did we do with the coal? We auctioned it to the Chinese "who need
the power more than us." That is the same thing happening to our
spectrum resources.
Forget about procurement laws and let's think about economics that
will build the country without taking sides. Is it better to give the
frequency distribution to a local firm, and keep local dollars local,
or is it better to have that capital flight to China? We should even
give the third licence FREE to a consortium of local firms than
auction it for a Billion dollars to a foreigner.
Are we a nation that has lost national pride?
Remember CCK cannot have an objective stand on this since Wambua has
to respond with the official government position, and I cannot fault
him for that. Only civil society can take the high moral ground and do
what is good for Kenya. Advocate for our critical resources, airwaves,
minerals, tourism, ... to be controlled by locals.
Dr. Ndemo is the economist on the list. Can he teach us why developed
economies work so hard to support their industries, while Kenya works
extra hard to support foreign economies? What are the repercussions on
future generations?
Anybody who cannot get this argument is beyond uncolonization.
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Muraya I did not in anyway suggest that Kenya firms are generally unable to prepare bids that can win licence tenders. My comments were only specific to the 2nd signal distribution licence. Having said that, I wish to state here that there are many Kenyan firms that have been awarded licences in the ICT sector. The media firms for which you are passionately arguing their case are indeed our licensees. And many other local firms have been licensed in other market segments. I also wish to add that there is no law or policy that hinders local firms from participating in the local ICT sector. As you may recall, at the initial stages of sector liberalisation, the ceiling for foreign ownership in local ICT firms was 30%. Indeed, Safaricom and Airtel initially enjoyed 70% local shareholding. The initial ICT sector policy guidelines described ICT as a strategic sector of the economy in which local participation should be encouraged. However, the government soon came to terms with the reality that telecoms infrastructure roll out required immense resources and subsequently reviewed the ceiling to 60 percent and ultimately to 30% You will recall that the licensing process for the Second National Operator (SNO) collapsed due to the inability of the local partner to raise its part of the bid licence fee. As a result, the government further reviewed the minimum amount of shareholding in local ICT firms to 20%, and gave foreign firms that win ICT tender licences a three-year period within which to comply with this policy requirement. Despite the reduction, local ICT firms can still bid and win ICT licence tenders. Wambua Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: S.M. Muraya Sent: Monday, 30 December 2013 14:23 PM To: Walubengo J Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Point is... we have contracted/licensed foreigners to control .KE Info Infrastructure, as if it is like outsourcing Road Construction. Expected Response: "Kenyan firms do not know how to respond to tenders... cannot write essays/proposals well.." It follows persons who look down on their fellow Kenyans/Africans cannot build market oriented Kenyan/African firms. Political brokers/foreign firms do better in winning government contracts than in serving the markets they seek to exploit (not benefit). They often hire evil parties to run interference/propaganda against local initiatives, on lists such as this - sometimes using pseudo names. Which laws/existing contracts ensure local capacity and talent is developed? www. Links/Transparency will be appreciated. No patriot can argue against foreign investments which bring manufacturing plants/knowledge to benefit our nation and region. We oppose one way tickets/contracts for foreigners (in cahoots with public officials) to ignore local initiatives/investments. Think about it, foreigners can easily run away, unlike the Kenyan with dark skin who has to beg for a VISA to enter developed nations. What do we end up with for favoring foreigners (fronted by public officials who favored them)? Anglo Leasing..Ghosts in some far away land.. we cannot prosecute for failing to deliver forensic labs and information systems/services. At least the Kenyan firm can be shamed in court for not delivering services... even the Judges are corrupted by the .co.ke<http://co.ke>. ******** Way forward... .GO.KE<http://GO.KE>, favors Signet and keeps the offer "OPEN" to interested local firms to buy shares in Signet. These KENYAN firms are likely to already develop, localize and demonstrate technical capacity. Equipment can be sourced from China, S,Korea, or Japan, but, the usage of that equipment to distribute/broadcast digital signals must be done by a Kenyan firm/entity. Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32 On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> wrote: @Ngigi, @Ndemo, this is the hard-talk that keeps me coming back to KICTAnet :-) my 2pence is that this war is NOT about digital migration - given that both Government and Media houses agree on that. This was is about who controls the digital signal distribution (licence). Its sort of a chicken and egg problem in that the current digital signal distributors (Signet/PANG) dont have "local" content but have the license to distribute. While the current local content guys (media houses) have the content but lack the digital license to distribute. A license without content is like a gun without a bullet. A bullet without a gun is of no use either. Who will blink first? Afrosinema continues :-) walu. -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 12/30/13, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke<mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke>> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling To: jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "Consumer and Public Affairs" <cpa@cck.go.ke<mailto:cpa@cck.go.ke>>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Monday, December 30, 2013, 9:32 AM Daktari, Having looked at your comments, I would want to think the comparisons you have picked do not quite cut it. Fact, we currently have firms in Kenya apart from KBC who have a reliable analogue transmission network across the entire country and so far they have delivered on this. To upgrade this transmission network to pump out Digital Signals, instead of the Analogue is not rocket science. It can be done easily and would reuse such existing infrastrucure such as sites, masts, backup generators, logistics & security etc To say or assume that these firms could *not* provide a Digital Solution if asked to, simply does not add up. Not when they have 60% of what you need and the remaining parts e.g multiplexers, antennas are off-the-shelf parts. Second, to compare these firms to Mobitelea is really pushing it. Here you are talking of firms that have demostrated capacity in building & maintaining their own infrastructure and that are employing Kenyans to maintain and operate them. These are not politically connected individuals who have nothing else to offer apart from access to high places. These are solid Kenyan companies. Thirdly, this case cannot even be remotely compared to KPTC where competition had to be introduced to kickstart our Telco Sector. In this case you are actually consolidating the *infrastructure* industry to a single vendor not liberating it. You are going from more than 10 firms each with own transmission infrastrucure to two firms, one of which (KBC) as you have correctly indicated doesn't cut it. So infact you have consolidated our entire transmission industry into a single company, and then given that to the Chinese! If there is something that smells Mobitelea. That is it! Fourth you mention the China Telcom partnering up with Apple iPhone as an example of how countries sometimes partner with firms outside their own. But you fail to mention they never went to Apple as their first point of call. They first partnered up with Lenovo, HTC, Huawei (solid Chines firms) before the call to Cupertino was made. You take care of your own first before you go taking care of others. That's what smart countries & leadership does. Lastly, please let us differentiate btn the Infrastructure issues and Digital Migration issues. On Digital migration, we are headed there and there is not much support for Media firms on this. Wapende wasipende! However, on denying them the deal to build the Digital Infrastructure is very questionable and on the very least points to a certain 'Mobitelea' type deal, exactly what you say we ought to have avoided. But then again, This is Kenya. Where the impossible happens. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 29 Dec 2013 21:36, "Bitange Ndemo" <bitange@jambo.co.ke<mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke>> wrote: Kivuva, Iam a supporter of building local capacities but whichever way CCK would have given out the license, there was going to be criticism. CCK wanted someone capable of putting up infrastructure after we discovered Signet was taking too long and Government did not have money. The financial bid for all the local firms did not measure up to what CCK had requested. You realize CCK has gone through this journey before and were hit hard when policy requirement needed 70 percent local participation, we got Mobitelea. Every policy pronouncement has some wheeler dealers behind singing patriotism. World over what is needed is the ability to provide the solution. You read the other day that China Telcom was partnering with I-Phone yet China is the greatest producer of mobile handsets. There comes a time when we must accept partnerships that will help us build capacity. We provided that opportunity in Signet but it was declined. When you focus on coverage to offer essential service, you look at capability as demonstrated in the financials. For many years we protected KPTC as a critical infrastructure but what we ended up with was poverty en masse. Our people would not afford telephony. Ever since we liberalized the communications sector, it is now contributing more than 5 percent to the economy up from zero percent. It is dangerous to focus on one aspect of migration infrastructure. If each of the broadcaster is given multiplexing ability, they will hoard the spectrum and shut out new entrants just when the creative economy is trying to pick up. The current Media is simply trying to protect its own interests considering the fact that we have new hard working Kenyans entering the broadcast arena. Why would we be supportive of oligopolistic practices when the industry is opening up to more players? Court or no court Migration will take place and new business models will emerge. This is where we need to focus our attention. The delaying tactics you are seeing is to disenfranchise more than 100 new broadcasters that are born and bred in this country. I said before and would state here that not even Signet or PANG would build a sustainable business model without serious content aggregation strategy considering the fact that technology changes every 3 years. Ndemo.
Ali, I'm afraid many listers are not getting your argument, that of
auctioning our critical resources to foreigners.
Many of us have been dragged into taking sides either for the
government (CCK), or the local media houses. If we divorce them from
this debate, maybe we will be more objective.
Let me digress, we have enough coal in Kitui to setup a
powerplant
that can propell Kenya to vision 2030 and stop relying on poor
rainfall and other unreliable renewable energy like geothermal. But
what did we do with the coal? We auctioned it to the Chinese "who need
the power more than us." That is the same thing happening to our
spectrum resources.
Forget about procurement laws and let's think about economics that
will build the country without taking sides. Is it better to give the
frequency distribution to a local firm, and keep local dollars local,
or is it better to have that capital flight to China? We should even
give the third licence FREE to a consortium of local firms than
auction it for a Billion dollars to a foreigner.
Are we a nation that has lost national pride?
Remember CCK cannot have an objective stand on this since Wambua has
to respond with the official government position, and I cannot fault
him for that. Only civil society can take the high moral ground and do
what is good for Kenya. Advocate for our critical resources, airwaves,
minerals, tourism, ... to be controlled by locals.
Dr. Ndemo is the economist on the list. Can he teach us why developed
economies work so hard to support their industries, while Kenya works
extra hard to support foreign economies? What are the repercussions on
future generations?
Anybody who cannot get this argument is beyond uncolonization.
--
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Indeed Wambua, across the border is Tanzania a consortium comprising two local media firms had to sell off 49% equity to foreign investors after it was unable to raise the required capital even after wining the licence. This means the company now can no longer be called local in the strict sense. Its all good sounding to root for Kenyan companies, but the reality is you cannot apply this fully across the board. Its for this reason you see our leaders working to attract foreign investment. This is not to say they don't value Kenyan investors. As for the licence in question, the issue was never about foreign or local investors; they simply lost the bid alongside other firms - both local and foreign. Its like arguing that examiners at a local college need to ensure local students don't fail their exams as foreign ones pass! Can somebody tell us why local media are not willing to team up with another local media at Signet? Aside from those in court how many other players who fit local media description are not supporting their suit? Isn't it clear here we are dealing more with another issue than just the local media clamour. Who is more local than KBC? From: Wambua, Christopher Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 06:50 PM To: S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>; Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Muraya I did not in anyway suggest that Kenya firms are generally unable to prepare bids that can win licence tenders. My comments were only specific to the 2nd signal distribution licence. Having said that, I wish to state here that there are many Kenyan firms that have been awarded licences in the ICT sector. The media firms for which you are passionately arguing their case are indeed our licensees. And many other local firms have been licensed in other market segments. I also wish to add that there is no law or policy that hinders local firms from participating in the local ICT sector. As you may recall, at the initial stages of sector liberalisation, the ceiling for foreign ownership in local ICT firms was 30%. Indeed, Safaricom and Airtel initially enjoyed 70% local shareholding. The initial ICT sector policy guidelines described ICT as a strategic sector of the economy in which local participation should be encouraged. However, the government soon came to terms with the reality that telecoms infrastructure roll out required immense resources and subsequently reviewed the ceiling to 60 percent and ultimately to 30% You will recall that the licensing process for the Second National Operator (SNO) collapsed due to the inability of the local partner to raise its part of the bid licence fee. As a result, the government further reviewed the minimum amount of shareholding in local ICT firms to 20%, and gave foreign firms that win ICT tender licences a three-year period within which to comply with this policy requirement. Despite the reduction, local ICT firms can still bid and win ICT licence tenders. Wambua Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: S.M. Muraya Sent: Monday, 30 December 2013 14:23 PM To: Walubengo J Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Point is... we have contracted/licensed foreigners to control .KE Info Infrastructure, as if it is like outsourcing Road Construction. Expected Response: "Kenyan firms do not know how to respond to tenders... cannot write essays/proposals well.." It follows persons who look down on their fellow Kenyans/Africans cannot build market oriented Kenyan/African firms. Political brokers/foreign firms do better in winning government contracts than in serving the markets they seek to exploit (not benefit). They often hire evil parties to run interference/propaganda against local initiatives, on lists such as this - sometimes using pseudo names. Which laws/existing contracts ensure local capacity and talent is developed? www. Links/Transparency will be appreciated. No patriot can argue against foreign investments which bring manufacturing plants/knowledge to benefit our nation and region. We oppose one way tickets/contracts for foreigners (in cahoots with public officials) to ignore local initiatives/investments. Think about it, foreigners can easily run away, unlike the Kenyan with dark skin who has to beg for a VISA to enter developed nations. What do we end up with for favoring foreigners (fronted by public officials who favored them)? Anglo Leasing..Ghosts in some far away land.. we cannot prosecute for failing to deliver forensic labs and information systems/services. At least the Kenyan firm can be shamed in court for not delivering services... even the Judges are corrupted by the .co.ke<http://co.ke>. ******** Way forward... .GO.KE<http://GO.KE>, favors Signet and keeps the offer "OPEN" to interested local firms to buy shares in Signet. These KENYAN firms are likely to already develop, localize and demonstrate technical capacity. Equipment can be sourced from China, S,Korea, or Japan, but, the usage of that equipment to distribute/broadcast digital signals must be done by a Kenyan firm/entity. Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32 On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> wrote: @Ngigi, @Ndemo, this is the hard-talk that keeps me coming back to KICTAnet :-) my 2pence is that this war is NOT about digital migration - given that both Government and Media houses agree on that. This was is about who controls the digital signal distribution (licence). Its sort of a chicken and egg problem in that the current digital signal distributors (Signet/PANG) dont have "local" content but have the license to distribute. While the current local content guys (media houses) have the content but lack the digital license to distribute. A license without content is like a gun without a bullet. A bullet without a gun is of no use either. Who will blink first? Afrosinema continues :-) walu. -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 12/30/13, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke<mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke>> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling To: jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "Consumer and Public Affairs" <cpa@cck.go.ke<mailto:cpa@cck.go.ke>>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Monday, December 30, 2013, 9:32 AM Daktari, Having looked at your comments, I would want to think the comparisons you have picked do not quite cut it. Fact, we currently have firms in Kenya apart from KBC who have a reliable analogue transmission network across the entire country and so far they have delivered on this. To upgrade this transmission network to pump out Digital Signals, instead of the Analogue is not rocket science. It can be done easily and would reuse such existing infrastrucure such as sites, masts, backup generators, logistics & security etc To say or assume that these firms could *not* provide a Digital Solution if asked to, simply does not add up. Not when they have 60% of what you need and the remaining parts e.g multiplexers, antennas are off-the-shelf parts. Second, to compare these firms to Mobitelea is really pushing it. Here you are talking of firms that have demostrated capacity in building & maintaining their own infrastructure and that are employing Kenyans to maintain and operate them. These are not politically connected individuals who have nothing else to offer apart from access to high places. These are solid Kenyan companies. Thirdly, this case cannot even be remotely compared to KPTC where competition had to be introduced to kickstart our Telco Sector. In this case you are actually consolidating the *infrastructure* industry to a single vendor not liberating it. You are going from more than 10 firms each with own transmission infrastrucure to two firms, one of which (KBC) as you have correctly indicated doesn't cut it. So infact you have consolidated our entire transmission industry into a single company, and then given that to the Chinese! If there is something that smells Mobitelea. That is it! Fourth you mention the China Telcom partnering up with Apple iPhone as an example of how countries sometimes partner with firms outside their own. But you fail to mention they never went to Apple as their first point of call. They first partnered up with Lenovo, HTC, Huawei (solid Chines firms) before the call to Cupertino was made. You take care of your own first before you go taking care of others. That's what smart countries & leadership does. Lastly, please let us differentiate btn the Infrastructure issues and Digital Migration issues. On Digital migration, we are headed there and there is not much support for Media firms on this. Wapende wasipende! However, on denying them the deal to build the Digital Infrastructure is very questionable and on the very least points to a certain 'Mobitelea' type deal, exactly what you say we ought to have avoided. But then again, This is Kenya. Where the impossible happens. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 29 Dec 2013 21:36, "Bitange Ndemo" <bitange@jambo.co.ke<mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke>> wrote: Kivuva, Iam a supporter of building local capacities but whichever way CCK would have given out the license, there was going to be criticism. CCK wanted someone capable of putting up infrastructure after we discovered Signet was taking too long and Government did not have money. The financial bid for all the local firms did not measure up to what CCK had requested. You realize CCK has gone through this journey before and were hit hard when policy requirement needed 70 percent local participation, we got Mobitelea. Every policy pronouncement has some wheeler dealers behind singing patriotism. World over what is needed is the ability to provide the solution. You read the other day that China Telcom was partnering with I-Phone yet China is the greatest producer of mobile handsets. There comes a time when we must accept partnerships that will help us build capacity. We provided that opportunity in Signet but it was declined. When you focus on coverage to offer essential service, you look at capability as demonstrated in the financials. For many years we protected KPTC as a critical infrastructure but what we ended up with was poverty en masse. Our people would not afford telephony. Ever since we liberalized the communications sector, it is now contributing more than 5 percent to the economy up from zero percent. It is dangerous to focus on one aspect of migration infrastructure. If each of the broadcaster is given multiplexing ability, they will hoard the spectrum and shut out new entrants just when the creative economy is trying to pick up. The current Media is simply trying to protect its own interests considering the fact that we have new hard working Kenyans entering the broadcast arena. Why would we be supportive of oligopolistic practices when the industry is opening up to more players? Court or no court Migration will take place and new business models will emerge. This is where we need to focus our attention. The delaying tactics you are seeing is to disenfranchise more than 100 new broadcasters that are born and bred in this country. I said before and would state here that not even Signet or PANG would build a sustainable business model without serious content aggregation strategy considering the fact that technology changes every 3 years. Ndemo.
Ali, I'm afraid many listers are not getting your argument, that of
auctioning our critical resources to foreigners.
Many of us have been dragged into taking sides either for the
government (CCK), or the local media houses. If we divorce them from
this debate, maybe we will be more objective.
Let me digress, we have enough coal in Kitui to setup a
powerplant
that can propell Kenya to vision 2030 and stop relying on poor
rainfall and other unreliable renewable energy like geothermal. But
what did we do with the coal? We auctioned it to the Chinese "who need
the power more than us." That is the same thing happening to our
spectrum resources.
Forget about procurement laws and let's think about economics that
will build the country without taking sides. Is it better to give the
frequency distribution to a local firm, and keep local dollars local,
or is it better to have that capital flight to China? We should even
give the third licence FREE to a consortium of local firms than
auction it for a Billion dollars to a foreigner.
Are we a nation that has lost national pride?
Remember CCK cannot have an objective stand on this since Wambua has
to respond with the official government position, and I cannot fault
him for that. Only civil society can take the high moral ground and do
what is good for Kenya. Advocate for our critical resources, airwaves,
minerals, tourism, ... to be controlled by locals.
Dr. Ndemo is the economist on the list. Can he teach us why developed
economies work so hard to support their industries, while Kenya works
extra hard to support foreign economies? What are the repercussions on
future generations?
Anybody who cannot get this argument is beyond uncolonization.
--
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Muthusi, There was a point I thought we were making progress in this debate, but, it seems we are back to square one in procurement of projects of *National Interest* and comparisons to marking of college exams. If the example, from say Canada, on procurement of projects of National Interest that has been clearly illustrated does not strike any cords with you, then I am not sure anything else ever will. They say you cannot fool everyone all the time, and I'll just pen-off by saying the debate has turned so simplistic as to not warrant any further comment. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 30 Dec 2013 19:39, "Mutua, Muthusi" <Mutua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
Indeed Wambua, across the border is Tanzania a consortium comprising two local media firms had to sell off 49% equity to foreign investors after it was unable to raise the required capital even after wining the licence. This means the company now can no longer be called local in the strict sense.
Its all good sounding to root for Kenyan companies, but the reality is you cannot apply this fully across the board. Its for this reason you see our leaders working to attract foreign investment. This is not to say they don't value Kenyan investors.
As for the licence in question, the issue was never about foreign or local investors; they simply lost the bid alongside other firms - both local and foreign. Its like arguing that examiners at a local college need to ensure local students don't fail their exams as foreign ones pass!
Can somebody tell us why local media are not willing to team up with another local media at Signet? Aside from those in court how many other players who fit local media description are not supporting their suit? Isn't it clear here we are dealing more with another issue than just the local media clamour. Who is more local than KBC?
*From*: Wambua, Christopher *Sent*: Monday, December 30, 2013 06:50 PM *To*: S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>; Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>
*Cc*: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Subject*: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Muraya
I did not in anyway suggest that Kenya firms are generally unable to prepare bids that can win licence tenders. My comments were only specific to the 2nd signal distribution licence.
Having said that, I wish to state here that there are many Kenyan firms that have been awarded licences in the ICT sector. The media firms for which you are passionately arguing their case are indeed our licensees. And many other local firms have been licensed in other market segments.
I also wish to add that there is no law or policy that hinders local firms from participating in the local ICT sector. As you may recall, at the initial stages of sector liberalisation, the ceiling for foreign ownership in local ICT firms was 30%. Indeed, Safaricom and Airtel initially enjoyed 70% local shareholding. The initial ICT sector policy guidelines described ICT as a strategic sector of the economy in which local participation should be encouraged.
However, the government soon came to terms with the reality that telecoms infrastructure roll out required immense resources and subsequently reviewed the ceiling to 60 percent and ultimately to 30%
You will recall that the licensing process for the Second National Operator (SNO) collapsed due to the inability of the local partner to raise its part of the bid licence fee. As a result, the government further reviewed the minimum amount of shareholding in local ICT firms to 20%, and gave foreign firms that win ICT tender licences a three-year period within which to comply with this policy requirement.
Despite the reduction, local ICT firms can still bid and win ICT licence tenders.
Wambua
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. *From: *S.M. Muraya *Sent: *Monday, 30 December 2013 14:23 PM *To: *Walubengo J *Cc: *Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Point is... we have contracted/licensed foreigners to control .KE Info Infrastructure, as if it is like outsourcing Road Construction.
Expected Response: "Kenyan firms do not know how to respond to tenders... cannot write essays/proposals well.."
It follows persons who look down on their fellow Kenyans/Africans cannot build market oriented Kenyan/African firms.
Political brokers/foreign firms do better in winning government contracts than in serving the markets they seek to exploit (not benefit).
They often hire evil parties to run interference/propaganda against local initiatives, on lists such as this - sometimes using pseudo names.
Which laws/existing contracts ensure local capacity and talent is developed? www. Links/Transparency will be appreciated.
No patriot can argue against foreign investments which bring manufacturing plants/knowledge to benefit our nation and region.
We oppose one way tickets/contracts for foreigners (in cahoots with public officials) to ignore local initiatives/investments.
Think about it, foreigners can easily run away, unlike the Kenyan with dark skin who has to beg for a VISA to enter developed nations.
What do we end up with for favoring foreigners (fronted by public officials who favored them)? Anglo Leasing..Ghosts in some far away land.. we cannot prosecute for failing to deliver forensic labs and information systems/services.
At least the Kenyan firm can be shamed in court for not delivering services... even the Judges are corrupted by the .co.ke.
********
Way forward... .GO.KE, favors Signet and keeps the offer "OPEN" to interested local firms to buy shares in Signet.
These KENYAN firms are likely to already develop, localize and demonstrate technical capacity.
Equipment can be sourced from China, S,Korea, or Japan, but, the usage of that equipment to distribute/broadcast digital signals must be done by a Kenyan firm/entity.
Regards
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On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Ngigi, @Ndemo,
this is the hard-talk that keeps me coming back to KICTAnet :-)
my 2pence is that this war is NOT about digital migration - given that both Government and Media houses agree on that. This was is about who controls the digital signal distribution (licence). Its sort of a chicken and egg problem in that the current digital signal distributors (Signet/PANG) dont have "local" content but have the license to distribute. While the current local content guys (media houses) have the content but lack the digital license to distribute.
A license without content is like a gun without a bullet. A bullet without a gun is of no use either. Who will blink first?
Afrosinema continues :-)
walu.
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Daktari, Having looked at your comments, I would want to think the comparisons you have picked do not quite cut it. Fact, we currently have firms in Kenya apart from KBC who have a reliable analogue transmission network across the entire country and so far they have delivered on this. To upgrade this transmission network to pump out Digital Signals, instead of the Analogue is not rocket science. It can be done easily and would reuse such existing infrastrucure such as sites, masts, backup generators, logistics & security etc
To say or assume that these firms could *not* provide a Digital Solution if asked to, simply does not add up. Not when they have 60% of what you need and the remaining parts e.g multiplexers, antennas are off-the-shelf parts.
Second, to compare these firms to Mobitelea is really pushing it. Here you are talking of firms that have demostrated capacity in building & maintaining their own infrastructure and that are employing Kenyans to maintain and operate them.
These are not politically connected individuals who have nothing else to offer apart from access to high places. These are solid Kenyan companies. Thirdly, this case cannot even be remotely compared to KPTC where competition had to be introduced to kickstart our Telco Sector. In this case you are actually consolidating the *infrastructure* industry to a single vendor not liberating it.
You are going from more than 10 firms each with own transmission infrastrucure to two firms, one of which (KBC) as you have correctly indicated doesn't cut it.
So infact you have consolidated our entire transmission industry into a single company, and then given that to the Chinese! If there is something that smells Mobitelea. That is it! Fourth you mention the China Telcom partnering up with Apple iPhone as an example of how countries sometimes partner with firms outside their own. But you fail to mention they never went to Apple as their first point of call. They first partnered up with Lenovo, HTC, Huawei (solid Chines firms) before the call to Cupertino was made.
You take care of your own first before you go taking care of others. That's what smart countries & leadership does. Lastly, please let us differentiate btn the Infrastructure issues and Digital Migration issues. On Digital migration, we are headed there and there is not much support for Media firms on this. Wapende wasipende! However, on denying them the deal to build the Digital Infrastructure is very questionable and on the very least points to a certain 'Mobitelea' type deal, exactly what you say we ought to have avoided.
But then again, This is Kenya. Where the impossible happens. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies
Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 29 Dec 2013 21:36, "Bitange Ndemo" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Kivuva,
Iam a supporter of building local capacities but whichever way CCK would
have given out the license, there was going to be criticism. CCK wanted
someone capable of putting up infrastructure after we discovered Signet
was taking too long and Government did not have money. The financial bid
for all the local firms did not measure up to what CCK had requested.
You realize CCK has gone through this journey before and were hit hard
when policy requirement needed 70 percent local participation, we got
Mobitelea. Every policy pronouncement has some wheeler dealers behind
singing patriotism. World over what is needed is the ability to provide
the solution. You read the other day that China Telcom was partnering
with I-Phone yet China is the greatest producer of mobile handsets. There
comes a time when we must accept partnerships that will help us build
capacity. We provided that opportunity in Signet but it was declined.
When you focus on coverage to offer essential service, you look at
capability as demonstrated in the financials.
For many years we protected KPTC as a critical infrastructure but what we
ended up with was poverty en masse. Our people would not afford
telephony. Ever since we liberalized the communications sector, it is now
contributing more than 5 percent to the economy up from zero percent. It
is dangerous to focus on one aspect of migration infrastructure. If each
of the broadcaster is given multiplexing ability, they will hoard the
spectrum and shut out new entrants just when the creative economy is
trying to pick up. The current Media is simply trying to protect its own
interests considering the fact that we have new hard working Kenyans
entering the broadcast arena. Why would we be supportive of oligopolistic
practices when the industry is opening up to more players?
Court or no court Migration will take place and new business models will
emerge. This is where we need to focus our attention. The delaying
tactics you are seeing is to disenfranchise more than 100 new broadcasters
that are born and bred in this country. I said before and would state
here that not even Signet or PANG would build a sustainable business model
without serious content aggregation strategy considering the fact that
technology changes every 3 years.
Ndemo.
Ali, I'm afraid many listers are not getting your argument, that of
auctioning our critical resources to foreigners.
Many of us have been dragged into taking sides either for the
government (CCK), or the local media houses. If we divorce them from
this debate, maybe we will be more objective.
Let me digress, we have enough coal in Kitui to setup a powerplant
that can propell Kenya to vision 2030 and stop relying on poor
rainfall and other unreliable renewable energy like geothermal. But
what did we do with the coal? We auctioned it to the Chinese "who need
the power more than us." That is the same thing happening to our
spectrum resources.
Forget about procurement laws and let's think about economics that
will build the country without taking sides. Is it better to give the
frequency distribution to a local firm, and keep local dollars local,
or is it better to have that capital flight to China? We should even
give the third licence FREE to a consortium of local firms than
auction it for a Billion dollars to a foreigner.
Are we a nation that has lost national pride?
Remember CCK cannot have an objective stand on this since Wambua has
to respond with the official government position, and I cannot fault
him for that. Only civil society can take the high moral ground and do
what is good for Kenya. Advocate for our critical resources, airwaves,
minerals, tourism, ... to be controlled by locals.
Dr. Ndemo is the economist on the list. Can he teach us why developed
economies work so hard to support their industries, while Kenya works
extra hard to support foreign economies? What are the repercussions on
future generations?
Anybody who cannot get this argument is beyond uncolonization.
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I don't seek to fool anyone. I don't even use that kind of language even when I disagree. But facts are facts even if undesirable. Tenders that require "national interest" as a variable are classified as such even at tender advertisement and evaluation stages. This tender was not considered of that category because it isn't. Tenders follow rules disclosed at the start and follow through to end. Changing midstream in favour of anyone isn't an option. I still submit, we need to deal with facts without getting carried away with what we would wish to be the fact. From: Ngigi Waithaka [mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 08:40 PM To: Mutua, Muthusi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Consumer and Public Affairs Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Muthusi, There was a point I thought we were making progress in this debate, but, it seems we are back to square one in procurement of projects of *National Interest* and comparisons to marking of college exams. If the example, from say Canada, on procurement of projects of National Interest that has been clearly illustrated does not strike any cords with you, then I am not sure anything else ever will. They say you cannot fool everyone all the time, and I'll just pen-off by saying the debate has turned so simplistic as to not warrant any further comment. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 30 Dec 2013 19:39, "Mutua, Muthusi" <Mutua@cck.go.ke<mailto:Mutua@cck.go.ke>> wrote: Indeed Wambua, across the border is Tanzania a consortium comprising two local media firms had to sell off 49% equity to foreign investors after it was unable to raise the required capital even after wining the licence. This means the company now can no longer be called local in the strict sense. Its all good sounding to root for Kenyan companies, but the reality is you cannot apply this fully across the board. Its for this reason you see our leaders working to attract foreign investment. This is not to say they don't value Kenyan investors. As for the licence in question, the issue was never about foreign or local investors; they simply lost the bid alongside other firms - both local and foreign. Its like arguing that examiners at a local college need to ensure local students don't fail their exams as foreign ones pass! Can somebody tell us why local media are not willing to team up with another local media at Signet? Aside from those in court how many other players who fit local media description are not supporting their suit? Isn't it clear here we are dealing more with another issue than just the local media clamour. Who is more local than KBC? From: Wambua, Christopher Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 06:50 PM To: S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com<mailto:murigi.muraya@gmail.com>>; Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Muraya I did not in anyway suggest that Kenya firms are generally unable to prepare bids that can win licence tenders. My comments were only specific to the 2nd signal distribution licence. Having said that, I wish to state here that there are many Kenyan firms that have been awarded licences in the ICT sector. The media firms for which you are passionately arguing their case are indeed our licensees. And many other local firms have been licensed in other market segments. I also wish to add that there is no law or policy that hinders local firms from participating in the local ICT sector. As you may recall, at the initial stages of sector liberalisation, the ceiling for foreign ownership in local ICT firms was 30%. Indeed, Safaricom and Airtel initially enjoyed 70% local shareholding. The initial ICT sector policy guidelines described ICT as a strategic sector of the economy in which local participation should be encouraged. However, the government soon came to terms with the reality that telecoms infrastructure roll out required immense resources and subsequently reviewed the ceiling to 60 percent and ultimately to 30% You will recall that the licensing process for the Second National Operator (SNO) collapsed due to the inability of the local partner to raise its part of the bid licence fee. As a result, the government further reviewed the minimum amount of shareholding in local ICT firms to 20%, and gave foreign firms that win ICT tender licences a three-year period within which to comply with this policy requirement. Despite the reduction, local ICT firms can still bid and win ICT licence tenders. Wambua Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: S.M. Muraya Sent: Monday, 30 December 2013 14:23 PM To: Walubengo J Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Point is... we have contracted/licensed foreigners to control .KE Info Infrastructure, as if it is like outsourcing Road Construction. Expected Response: "Kenyan firms do not know how to respond to tenders... cannot write essays/proposals well.." It follows persons who look down on their fellow Kenyans/Africans cannot build market oriented Kenyan/African firms. Political brokers/foreign firms do better in winning government contracts than in serving the markets they seek to exploit (not benefit). They often hire evil parties to run interference/propaganda against local initiatives, on lists such as this - sometimes using pseudo names. Which laws/existing contracts ensure local capacity and talent is developed? www. Links/Transparency will be appreciated. No patriot can argue against foreign investments which bring manufacturing plants/knowledge to benefit our nation and region. We oppose one way tickets/contracts for foreigners (in cahoots with public officials) to ignore local initiatives/investments. Think about it, foreigners can easily run away, unlike the Kenyan with dark skin who has to beg for a VISA to enter developed nations. What do we end up with for favoring foreigners (fronted by public officials who favored them)? Anglo Leasing..Ghosts in some far away land.. we cannot prosecute for failing to deliver forensic labs and information systems/services. At least the Kenyan firm can be shamed in court for not delivering services... even the Judges are corrupted by the .co.ke<http://co.ke>. ******** Way forward... .GO.KE<http://GO.KE>, favors Signet and keeps the offer "OPEN" to interested local firms to buy shares in Signet. These KENYAN firms are likely to already develop, localize and demonstrate technical capacity. Equipment can be sourced from China, S,Korea, or Japan, but, the usage of that equipment to distribute/broadcast digital signals must be done by a Kenyan firm/entity. Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32 On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>> wrote: @Ngigi, @Ndemo, this is the hard-talk that keeps me coming back to KICTAnet :-) my 2pence is that this war is NOT about digital migration - given that both Government and Media houses agree on that. This was is about who controls the digital signal distribution (licence). Its sort of a chicken and egg problem in that the current digital signal distributors (Signet/PANG) dont have "local" content but have the license to distribute. While the current local content guys (media houses) have the content but lack the digital license to distribute. A license without content is like a gun without a bullet. A bullet without a gun is of no use either. Who will blink first? Afrosinema continues :-) walu. -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 12/30/13, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke<mailto:ngigi@at.co.ke>> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling To: jwalu@yahoo.com<mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "Consumer and Public Affairs" <cpa@cck.go.ke<mailto:cpa@cck.go.ke>>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Monday, December 30, 2013, 9:32 AM Daktari, Having looked at your comments, I would want to think the comparisons you have picked do not quite cut it. Fact, we currently have firms in Kenya apart from KBC who have a reliable analogue transmission network across the entire country and so far they have delivered on this. To upgrade this transmission network to pump out Digital Signals, instead of the Analogue is not rocket science. It can be done easily and would reuse such existing infrastrucure such as sites, masts, backup generators, logistics & security etc To say or assume that these firms could *not* provide a Digital Solution if asked to, simply does not add up. Not when they have 60% of what you need and the remaining parts e.g multiplexers, antennas are off-the-shelf parts. Second, to compare these firms to Mobitelea is really pushing it. Here you are talking of firms that have demostrated capacity in building & maintaining their own infrastructure and that are employing Kenyans to maintain and operate them. These are not politically connected individuals who have nothing else to offer apart from access to high places. These are solid Kenyan companies. Thirdly, this case cannot even be remotely compared to KPTC where competition had to be introduced to kickstart our Telco Sector. In this case you are actually consolidating the *infrastructure* industry to a single vendor not liberating it. You are going from more than 10 firms each with own transmission infrastrucure to two firms, one of which (KBC) as you have correctly indicated doesn't cut it. So infact you have consolidated our entire transmission industry into a single company, and then given that to the Chinese! If there is something that smells Mobitelea. That is it! Fourth you mention the China Telcom partnering up with Apple iPhone as an example of how countries sometimes partner with firms outside their own. But you fail to mention they never went to Apple as their first point of call. They first partnered up with Lenovo, HTC, Huawei (solid Chines firms) before the call to Cupertino was made. You take care of your own first before you go taking care of others. That's what smart countries & leadership does. Lastly, please let us differentiate btn the Infrastructure issues and Digital Migration issues. On Digital migration, we are headed there and there is not much support for Media firms on this. Wapende wasipende! However, on denying them the deal to build the Digital Infrastructure is very questionable and on the very least points to a certain 'Mobitelea' type deal, exactly what you say we ought to have avoided. But then again, This is Kenya. Where the impossible happens. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io<http://www.A1.io> On 29 Dec 2013 21:36, "Bitange Ndemo" <bitange@jambo.co.ke<mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke>> wrote: Kivuva, Iam a supporter of building local capacities but whichever way CCK would have given out the license, there was going to be criticism. CCK wanted someone capable of putting up infrastructure after we discovered Signet was taking too long and Government did not have money. The financial bid for all the local firms did not measure up to what CCK had requested. You realize CCK has gone through this journey before and were hit hard when policy requirement needed 70 percent local participation, we got Mobitelea. Every policy pronouncement has some wheeler dealers behind singing patriotism. World over what is needed is the ability to provide the solution. You read the other day that China Telcom was partnering with I-Phone yet China is the greatest producer of mobile handsets. There comes a time when we must accept partnerships that will help us build capacity. We provided that opportunity in Signet but it was declined. When you focus on coverage to offer essential service, you look at capability as demonstrated in the financials. For many years we protected KPTC as a critical infrastructure but what we ended up with was poverty en masse. Our people would not afford telephony. Ever since we liberalized the communications sector, it is now contributing more than 5 percent to the economy up from zero percent. It is dangerous to focus on one aspect of migration infrastructure. If each of the broadcaster is given multiplexing ability, they will hoard the spectrum and shut out new entrants just when the creative economy is trying to pick up. The current Media is simply trying to protect its own interests considering the fact that we have new hard working Kenyans entering the broadcast arena. Why would we be supportive of oligopolistic practices when the industry is opening up to more players? Court or no court Migration will take place and new business models will emerge. This is where we need to focus our attention. The delaying tactics you are seeing is to disenfranchise more than 100 new broadcasters that are born and bred in this country. I said before and would state here that not even Signet or PANG would build a sustainable business model without serious content aggregation strategy considering the fact that technology changes every 3 years. Ndemo.
Ali, I'm afraid many listers are not getting your argument, that of
auctioning our critical resources to foreigners.
Many of us have been dragged into taking sides either for the
government (CCK), or the local media houses. If we divorce them from
this debate, maybe we will be more objective.
Let me digress, we have enough coal in Kitui to setup a
powerplant
that can propell Kenya to vision 2030 and stop relying on poor
rainfall and other unreliable renewable energy like geothermal. But
what did we do with the coal? We auctioned it to the Chinese "who need
the power more than us." That is the same thing happening to our
spectrum resources.
Forget about procurement laws and let's think about economics that
will build the country without taking sides. Is it better to give the
frequency distribution to a local firm, and keep local dollars local,
or is it better to have that capital flight to China? We should even
give the third licence FREE to a consortium of local firms than
auction it for a Billion dollars to a foreigner.
Are we a nation that has lost national pride?
Remember CCK cannot have an objective stand on this since Wambua has
to respond with the official government position, and I cannot fault
him for that. Only civil society can take the high moral ground and do
what is good for Kenya. Advocate for our critical resources, airwaves,
minerals, tourism, ... to be controlled by locals.
Dr. Ndemo is the economist on the list. Can he teach us why developed
economies work so hard to support their industries, while Kenya works
extra hard to support foreign economies? What are the repercussions on
future generations?
Anybody who cannot get this argument is beyond uncolonization.
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Waithaka, I fully understand your frustration but there is no straight answer until the law is changed. We first made a mistake when we allowed foreigners to craft the law. That is where we missed "national interest". It was meant to stop the Kanu government from stealing. It must be revised with such thinking in mind. Allowing restricted tendering to only Kenyans. Whatever you are trying to say or what Dr. Matunda has stated is justified but we must clean house to avoid getting back to other controversies if national interest resources are sold or there is no resources to optimally utilize the resource. We also mus deal with vultures who will abuse the same rules as has happened before. The current policy framework indeed enabled the sector to flourish by allowing foreign investment while they search for local partnerships. If they fail, the stock market was to pick up the shares and enable a more inclusive process that brings in smaller investors. Prior to this CCK was sued left, right and center and when cases fail they allege corruption because ordinary citizen will buy this. We need FDI to grow the economy while at the same time enabling our own to invest. If every FDI ends up in court then we undermining the economy. This is what used to happen when local share requirement was 70%, 60$. 40% and 30%. There are hundreds of tier two licenses that have been given but it turned out to be a conduit to acquire spectrum and sell. We are not honest to ourselves. We are a simply rotten people. Some policies will never function well until we embrace ethics, live by ethics and speak ethically. This is what makes the work of a public servant very difficult. There are many hard working and honest public servants whose names are dirtied by powerful wheeler dealers We seriously must begin to build honest and credible institutions. Judiciary too need to build capacity around technology. It requires all of us not just the public servants. Ndemo.
Muthusi,
There was a point I thought we were making progress in this debate, but, it seems we are back to square one in procurement of projects of *National Interest* and comparisons to marking of college exams.
If the example, from say Canada, on procurement of projects of National Interest that has been clearly illustrated does not strike any cords with you, then I am not sure anything else ever will.
They say you cannot fool everyone all the time, and I'll just pen-off by saying the debate has turned so simplistic as to not warrant any further comment.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 30 Dec 2013 19:39, "Mutua, Muthusi" <Mutua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
Indeed Wambua, across the border is Tanzania a consortium comprising two local media firms had to sell off 49% equity to foreign investors after it was unable to raise the required capital even after wining the licence. This means the company now can no longer be called local in the strict sense.
Its all good sounding to root for Kenyan companies, but the reality is you cannot apply this fully across the board. Its for this reason you see our leaders working to attract foreign investment. This is not t
Waithaka, I agree with you entirely. This was the very reason why I proposed that we give the third license to Media Owners owing to the fact that they had some infrastructure in place. The procurement law does not allow such deals. I have been at the forefront campaigning to get the law changed but it has not received the attention we are giving Media here. The Media themselves never work together to put up a viable financial proposal. You end up doing something that will not take you to jail (follow the law as is). When we worked on the policy review, not many of participants here gave any ideas. In fact our sector is not any different from the health sector. We deal with the crisis when we can avert it through participatory democracy. Several of the laws that have gone through Parliament have serious flaws yet the constitution demands participation by all. You cannot blame this on anyone but us all. The President recently made it clear that procurement will favour youth and women to some extent but this has not been implemented owing to the rigid procurement laws. There is a lot more that cannot be said here but bottom line we all must take blame. Some of your points on viability of digital infrastructure when you have already built an analogue one are false. Most of these "successful" broadcasters rely heavily on GoK both on infrastructure and content gathering. It will be even better to have more broadcasters as we already have on digital to make the existing ones more efficient. The Chinese signal distribution is simply a distraction. 95% of the bids had a foreign financial/technical partner including some of the media houses. According to the policy the Chinese will have to get a local partner in three years or float their shares in the stock market up to the tune of 20%. Ndemo.
Daktari,
Having looked at your comments, I would want to think the comparisons you have picked do not quite cut it.
Fact, we currently have firms in Kenya apart from KBC who have a reliable analogue transmission network across the entire country and so far they have delivered on this.
To upgrade this transmission network to pump out Digital Signals, instead of the Analogue is not rocket science. It can be done easily and would reuse such existing infrastrucure such as sites, masts, backup generators, logistics & security etc
To say or assume that these firms could *not* provide a Digital Solution if asked to, simply does not add up. Not when they have 60% of what you need and the remaining parts e.g multiplexers, antennas are off-the-shelf parts.
Second, to compare these firms to Mobitelea is really pushing it. Here you are talking of firms that have demostrated capacity in building & maintaining their own infrastructure and that are employing Kenyans to maintain and operate them.
These are not politically connected individuals who have nothing else to offer apart from access to high places.
These are solid Kenyan companies.
Thirdly, this case cannot even be remotely compared to KPTC where competition had to be introduced to kickstart our Telco Sector. In this case you are actually consolidating the *infrastructure* industry to a single vendor not liberating it.
You are going from more than 10 firms each with own transmission infrastrucure to two firms, one of which (KBC) as you have correctly indicated doesn't cut it.
So infact you have consolidated our entire transmission industry into a single company, and then given that to the Chinese!
If there is something that smells Mobitelea. That is it!
Fourth you mention the China Telcom partnering up with Apple iPhone as an example of how countries sometimes partner with firms outside their own. But you fail to mention they never went to Apple as their first point of call. They first partnered up with Lenovo, HTC, Huawei (solid Chines firms) before the call to Cupertino was made.
You take care of your own first before you go taking care of others. That's what smart countries & leadership does.
Lastly, please let us differentiate btn the Infrastructure issues and Digital Migration issues.
On Digital migration, we are headed there and there is not much support for Media firms on this. Wapende wasipende!
However, on denying them the deal to build the Digital Infrastructure is very questionable and on the very least points to a certain 'Mobitelea' type deal, exactly what you say we ought to have avoided.
But then again, This is Kenya. Where the impossible happens.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 29 Dec 2013 21:36, "Bitange Ndemo" <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Kivuva, Iam a supporter of building local capacities but whichever way CCK would have given out the license, there was going to be criticism. CCK wanted someone capable of putting up infrastructure after we discovered Signet was taking too long and Government did not have money. The financial bid for all the local firms did not measure up to what CCK had requested.
You realize CCK has gone through this journey before and were hit hard when policy requirement needed 70 percent local participation, we got Mobitelea. Every policy pronouncement has some wheeler dealers behind singing patriotism. World over what is needed is the ability to provide the solution. You read the other day that China Telcom was partnering with I-Phone yet China is the greatest producer of mobile handsets. There comes a time when we must accept partnerships that will help us build capacity. We provided that opportunity in Signet but it was declined. When you focus on coverage to offer essential service, you look at capability as demonstrated in the financials.
For many years we protected KPTC as a critical infrastructure but what we ended up with was poverty en masse. Our people would not afford telephony. Ever since we liberalized the communications sector, it is now contributing more than 5 percent to the economy up from zero percent. It is dangerous to focus on one aspect of migration infrastructure. If each of the broadcaster is given multiplexing ability, they will hoard the spectrum and shut out new entrants just when the creative economy is trying to pick up. The current Media is simply trying to protect its own interests considering the fact that we have new hard working Kenyans entering the broadcast arena. Why would we be supportive of oligopolistic practices when the industry is opening up to more players?
Court or no court Migration will take place and new business models will emerge. This is where we need to focus our attention. The delaying tactics you are seeing is to disenfranchise more than 100 new broadcasters that are born and bred in this country. I said before and would state here that not even Signet or PANG would build a sustainable business model without serious content aggregation strategy considering the fact that technology changes every 3 years.
Ndemo.
Ali, I'm afraid many listers are not getting your argument, that of auctioning our critical resources to foreigners.
Many of us have been dragged into taking sides either for the government (CCK), or the local media houses. If we divorce them from this debate, maybe we will be more objective.
Let me digress, we have enough coal in Kitui to setup a powerplant that can propell Kenya to vision 2030 and stop relying on poor rainfall and other unreliable renewable energy like geothermal. But what did we do with the coal? We auctioned it to the Chinese "who need the power more than us." That is the same thing happening to our spectrum resources.
Forget about procurement laws and let's think about economics that will build the country without taking sides. Is it better to give the frequency distribution to a local firm, and keep local dollars local, or is it better to have that capital flight to China? We should even give the third licence FREE to a consortium of local firms than auction it for a Billion dollars to a foreigner.
Are we a nation that has lost national pride?
Remember CCK cannot have an objective stand on this since Wambua has to respond with the official government position, and I cannot fault him for that. Only civil society can take the high moral ground and do what is good for Kenya. Advocate for our critical resources, airwaves, minerals, tourism, ... to be controlled by locals.
Dr. Ndemo is the economist on the list. Can he teach us why developed economies work so hard to support their industries, while Kenya works extra hard to support foreign economies? What are the repercussions on future generations?
Anybody who cannot get this argument is beyond uncolonization.
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On Dec 26, 2013 1:10 PM, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua@cck.go.ke> wrote:
Ali,
I know that the government has on a number of occasions offered to
offload some shares in Signet to interested media houses.
Instead of taking up the offer, the media houses have instead persisted in their clamour to be issued with the third signal distribution licence.
From: Ali Hussein Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013 12:29 PM To: ICT Researcher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@ Ohaga, ICT Researcher
Lest we forget
1. http://www.cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/cck-caught-in-surprise-cabinet-secret...
2. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/KBC-set-for-split-as-State...
The issue guys isn't whether the media houses are right or wrong. Digital Migration is a foregone conclusion. The issues is how we make policy in
Please persist on this insistence (sharing Signet) to spare us all the more shame of "outsourcing" our responsibilities and freedoms to foreigners, whether Eastern or Western. Even issuing the 3rd distribution signal to local (NSE listed firms, founded by KENYANS subject to the Capital Markets Authority) is a lesser evil than outsourcing frequency distribution to foreigners, as wasteful (of frequencies) as it may be. Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya this country on ICT issues. And this is not a reference to the current administration. This is a blanket discussion on the last 15 years to date.
Admittedly good things have happened and that is why this country has
progressed to where we are. There is a lot to celebrate but there is also a lot to be done.
The digital migration ought from the onset (and I say this with a
straight face and no shame at all) to have been skewed towards local media houses as a matter of course. In fact the first CIO article I mentioned above (see the link) seemed to have alluded to the fact that the ministry had realized its error and decided to award a 3rd digital license to local media houses...then poof! Something happened again and the decision was rescinded.
Ohaga, forgive me for being underwhelmed by the Government's awarding a
digital platform license to KBC. No one on this list can deny the fact that KBC is a shadow of itself (if ever it was a whole being). Even its mandate of being the Government's mouthpiece is not being fulfilled. So why waste such a strategically important asset to it?
The second article in the business daily alludes to the fact that the AG
registered Signet as a separate entity from KBC. That is as it should be. I wonder where that process is at...in fact I will be daring enough to say that Signet should be reconfigured and shares offered to the local media houses so that there is ownership of the local content producers. This is the prudent thing to do. After all why offer a share of Signet to DSTV (which is owned by Naspers of South Africa) and not to other media houses?
Lastly I would like to address the issue of policy making and regulation.
I'm not a lawyer but a simple explanation:-
The policy maker decides what the regulations should be and passes the
laws implementing the regulations. The government regulator enforces those regulations.
This issue has been addressed before by different listers on the list. I
humbly submit that the lines here are very blurred in government as to who shapes policy and who regulates. I think its time someone took the bull by its horns and does what needs to be done.
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:03 AM, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com>
wrote:
i.e. one fails to understand what new arguement is, beyond all those
Commeding Kenyalaw.org people for opening up court decisions to the
------------------------------ On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 8:38 AM MSK ICT Researcher wrote:
-2 @Ali -1 @Ngigi -1
-------------------------------
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 12:04 AM MSK S.M. Muraya wrote:
+1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than
one
who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke>
wrote:
This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender...
Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one
hand
you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other
hand a foreign company.
We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national
broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a
certain
button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious
security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid
requirements stage?
Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the
tender
could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium
generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay
kickbacks.
With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to
their pockets quick. Damn national interests!
But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a
number
of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed!
Merry Xmas.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies
Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io
On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign
company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free'
when
African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In
fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see
it fit
to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive
bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should
actually
be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world
will
have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on
honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind
legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb
and
threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would
hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by
cck....I
say very irresponsible.
sad though.
On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like
this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds
its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I
wonder
what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I
wish
they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a
court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the
discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua
Manager - Communications
Consumer and Public Affairs Department
Communications Commission of Kenya
P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800
Tel: +254 20 4242209
info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke>
www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM
To: Wambua, Christopher
Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=
bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]<mailto:[mailto:
kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]> On Behalf
Of Wambua, Christopher
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM
To: bkioko@bernsoft.com<mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com>
Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal
distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender.
Some of
the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out
to the
licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent
tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public
Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking
any
merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other
major
towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV
broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm
and a
subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua
Manager - Communications
Consumer and Public Affairs Department
Communications Commission of Kenya
P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800
Tel: +254 20 4242209
info@cck.go.ke<mailto:info@cck.go.ke>
www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=
cck.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM
To: Wambua, Christopher
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:
ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a
country
that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company
2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong?
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world
will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
participants (22)
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Ali Hussein -
Badru Ntege -
Bernard Kioko -
Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group]
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Bitange Ndemo -
Collins Areba | Tel +254 707 750 788 | twitter ＠brainiacKE -
Dennis Kioko -
ICT Researcher -
John Kieti -
Kivuva -
Lawrence Njogu -
Mark Elkins -
Mark Mwangi -
Mutua, Muthusi -
Ngeno,Titus -
Ngigi Waithaka -
Odhiambo Washington -
Omo, John -
S.M. Muraya -
Walubengo J -
Wambua, Christopher -
Watila Alex