Merger of Agencies to Streamline ICT in Kenya
[1]http://www.cskonline.org/about-us/kenya-ict-press/312-merger-of-agen cies-to-streamline-ict-in-kenya References 1. http://www.cskonline.org/about-us/kenya-ict-press/312-merger-of-agencies-to-...
Siganga Thanks for sharing. Interesting articles and there are definitely positives in the consolidation of the Agencies under one umbrella. My only concern would be to guide against it being another Government rambling bureaucracy. I would suggest retaining the corporate governance structures of the ICT Board, mixed with the deep experience of some of the performing mandarins in the other two agencies and infuse some private sector smarts to come up with a body that is ready to tackle its huge mandate. Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 713 601113 "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad On Jun 11, 2013, at 9:34 AM, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com> wrote:
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True Ali, at the end of the day, its all about vested interests, that said we have seen good progress in the Kibaki era despite the challenges and the competition among the agencies was good because it spurred growth and developement of the industry, i think we need to study this issue carefully beyond the opinions given in the article, i am concerned about having a monolith considering the lack of value system that might support such an institution. None the less , we will judge the governments performance after five years as such we will welcome new ideas. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Siganga
Thanks for sharing. Interesting articles and there are definitely positives in the consolidation of the Agencies under one umbrella. My only concern would be to guide against it being another Government rambling bureaucracy.
I would suggest retaining the corporate governance structures of the ICT Board, mixed with the deep experience of some of the performing mandarins in the other two agencies and infuse some private sector smarts to come up with a body that is ready to tackle its huge mandate.
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
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On this note, where are we in creating legislation establishing CIO postions/roles in State Departments and Corporations? On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:34 AM, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com>wrote:
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I have always been a supporter of centralised information infrastructure for government services. Given our historical nature where ICT Board, GITS, eGovernment and each ministry and agency with its own mini-ICT budget, it has always been impossible to achieve a unified ICT objective within govt. Imagine being the CIO of Safaricom but having Marketing, Engineering, |HR and other departments buying and running their own ICT systems that have no relation to each other = disaster. Think Lands, Immigration, AG, Police with their own un-connected ICT budgets then you will begin to see the need to harmonize at some level - as long as you dont kill the speed at which some ministries/ depts may wish to move. walu. ________________________________ From: S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Merger of Agencies to Streamline ICT in Kenya On this note, where are we in creating legislation establishing CIO postions/roles in State Departments and Corporations? On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:34 AM, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com> wrote: http://www.cskonline.org/about-us/kenya-ict-press/312-merger-of-agencies-to-...
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One ICT Agency to formulate policy and promote (open) standards is in order. However, every major government function/domain (e.g. lands.go.ke, transport.go.ke, water.go.ke, energy.go.ke, judciary.go.ke, nairobi.go.ke) must have its own CIO. Today, who is accountable for the lack of electronic updates/communications from these domains? Within these domains, generic e-mail addresses such as "help@police.go.ke" would not be too bad if we could get responses from them. Even better is if we could have specific individual names associated with domains, even though this may be viewed as costly from a licensing point of view. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have always been a supporter of centralised information infrastructure for government services.
Given our historical nature where ICT Board, GITS, eGovernment and each ministry and agency with its own mini-ICT budget, it has always been impossible to achieve a unified ICT objective within govt.
Imagine being the CIO of Safaricom but having Marketing, Engineering, |HR and other departments buying and running their own ICT systems that have no relation to each other = disaster. Think Lands, Immigration, AG, Police with their own un-connected ICT budgets then you will begin to see the need to harmonize at some level - as long as you dont kill the speed at which some ministries/ depts may wish to move.
walu.
------------------------------ *From:* S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:44 AM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Merger of Agencies to Streamline ICT in Kenya
On this note, where are we in creating legislation establishing CIO postions/roles in State Departments and Corporations?
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:34 AM, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com>wrote:
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It should not be just mergers,it should actually be restructuring and harmonization and new agencies may well come up in the process. John Kariuki. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+ngethe.kariuki2007=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 00:58:21 To: <ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> Reply-To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Merger of Agencies to Streamline ICT in Kenya _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngethe.kariuki2007%40y... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
@Walu You must have some vestiges of a communist past...:) Centralization and all! :) Seriously though as long as clear deliverables are spelt out af a good team in place it can have profound results for this country. I also concur about mini CIOs in every Ministry. Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 713 601113 "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad On Jun 11, 2013, at 11:33 AM, ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
It should not be just mergers,it should actually be restructuring and harmonization and new agencies may well come up in the process.
John Kariuki. Sent from my BlackBerry®
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@Ali, I used to work for KGB in my earlier life :-) But on serious note, we need a unifying framework for government while simultaneously allowing depts and agencies to work independently. Think "Internet" with TCP-IP as unifying framework/standard while different agencies (e.g. IETF, W3C, ICANN, Regional Internet Registry do there thing independently but within this unifying framework/ecosystem) Yes, government has to be careful NOT to adopt the traditional "communist" type of centralization. Otherwise we are all cooked. walu. ________________________________ From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Merger of Agencies to Streamline ICT in Kenya @Walu You must have some vestiges of a communist past...:) Centralization and all! :) Seriously though as long as clear deliverables are spelt out af a good team in place it can have profound results for this country. I also concur about mini CIOs in every Ministry. Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 713 601113 "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad On Jun 11, 2013, at 11:33 AM, ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk wrote: It should not be just mergers,it should actually be restructuring and harmonization and new agencies may well come up in the process.
John Kariuki. Sent from my BlackBerry®
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With our culture this seems to be the obvious direction centralization will tilt to. On 6/11/13, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Ali,
I used to work for KGB in my earlier life :-)
But on serious note, we need a unifying framework for government while simultaneously allowing depts and agencies to work independently. Think "Internet" with TCP-IP as unifying framework/standard while different agencies (e.g. IETF, W3C, ICANN, Regional Internet Registry do there thing independently but within this unifying framework/ecosystem)
Yes, government has to be careful NOT to adopt the traditional "communist" type of centralization. Otherwise we are all cooked.
walu.
________________________________ From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Merger of Agencies to Streamline ICT in Kenya
@Walu
You must have some vestiges of a communist past...:) Centralization and all! :)
Seriously though as long as clear deliverables are spelt out af a good team in place it can have profound results for this country.
I also concur about mini CIOs in every Ministry.
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2013, at 11:33 AM, ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
It should not be just mergers,it should actually be restructuring and harmonization and new agencies may well come up in the process.
John Kariuki. Sent from my BlackBerry®
-----Original Message----- From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+ngethe.kariuki2007=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 00:58:21 To: <ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> Reply-To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Merger of Agencies to Streamline ICT in Kenya
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