Govt: Children will not take laptops home
The government now says schoolchildren would not be allowed to walk home with laptops once they start using them from next year.Ministry of Education officials Monday told a stakeholders’ forum in Nairobi that lessons from other countries indicate there would be many cases of lost gadgets if school children are allowed to go home with them. http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1944834/-/vlrgegz/-/index.html
The more they should just build LAB with terminal and let all children use the computers. It doesn't make sense to limit them to class 1. "Each device would cost Sh15,000 meaning the government could spend at least Sh15 billion in the first phase". From other news I've seen before, the govt (or their mouthpieces) did say these devices would cost KES 8,500 or thereabouts.
From https://twitter.com/OleItumbi/status/346704000147664896, I can see there is a plan to build Labs, and it was in the budget.
However, my question is still on the laptop. What is the _actual_ cost for a single unit? On 12 August 2013 13:21, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]> wrote:
The government now says schoolchildren would not be allowed to walk home with laptops once they start using them from next year.
Ministry of Education officials Monday told a stakeholders’ forum in Nairobi that lessons from other countries indicate there would be many cases of lost gadgets if school children are allowed to go home with them.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1944834/-/vlrgegz/-/index.html
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I am also beginning to see this as being wasteful. Why not build a lab with N-Computing like equipment where you have a powerful pc with many terminals that can be used by many more kids? Also are there dumb tablet terminals i.e tablets that can be used to access the said PC without them requiring to have hefty processors to be useful? On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]>wrote:
The more they should just build LAB with terminal and let all children use the computers. It doesn't make sense to limit them to class 1.
"Each device would cost Sh15,000 meaning the government could spend at least Sh15 billion in the first phase". From other news I've seen before, the govt (or their mouthpieces) did say these devices would cost KES 8,500 or thereabouts.
From https://twitter.com/OleItumbi/status/346704000147664896, I can see there is a plan to build Labs, and it was in the budget.
However, my question is still on the laptop. What is the _actual_ cost for a single unit?
On 12 August 2013 13:21, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]> wrote:
The government now says schoolchildren would not be allowed to walk home with laptops once they start using them from next year.
Ministry of Education officials Monday told a stakeholders’ forum in Nairobi that lessons from other countries indicate there would be many cases of lost gadgets if school children are allowed to go home with them.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1944834/-/vlrgegz/-/index.html
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Hi Mark, I agree strongly with the strategy you propose: invest the funds in well planned school computer labs resourced with low-energy, thin client solar-powered systems that all students have access to. Even though KPLC has been tasked with powering up thousands of schools, this is going to take time - and even when connected, some schools will struggle to pay to stay connected. The container-based system that Stonehouse has developed, using Aluetia computers developed in the UK specifically for African conditions, is one solution that should be seriously considered in my opinion. They are a client of ours and they recently sent me the attached document on their concept. Regards, Sean Moroney Chairman AITEC Africa [email protected] UK Tel: +44(0)1480-880774 UK Fax: +44(0)1480-880765 UK Mobile: +44(0)7973-499224 Ghana Mobile: +233(0)57-0445059 Kenya Mobile: +254(0)721-845674 Mozambique Mobile: +258-820880583 Nigeria Mobile +234(0)701-196-1413 Skype: seanmoroney www.aitecafrica.com [BMM-COMESA-Signature x 1500 (2)] [twitter]<https://twitter.com/aitecafrica> [facebook (2)] <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Aitec-Africa/143207745706922?ref=ts&fref=ts> Forthcoming Events: Broadcast, Film and Music Africa; Africa Media Business Exchange AITEC Banking and Mobile Money West Africa, Accra AITEC Banking and Mobile Money COMESA; Insure Africa AITEC Southern Africa ICT Summit AITEC East Africa ICT Summit; Afrihealth [cid:[email protected]] AITEC Africa is the trading name of AITEC Conferences Limited registered in England and Wales.Company registration number: 4698475 From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Mwangi Sent: 12 August 2013 12:14 To: Sean Moroney Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Govt: Children will not take laptops home I am also beginning to see this as being wasteful. Why not build a lab with N-Computing like equipment where you have a powerful pc with many terminals that can be used by many more kids? Also are there dumb tablet terminals i.e tablets that can be used to access the said PC without them requiring to have hefty processors to be useful? On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: The more they should just build LAB with terminal and let all children use the computers. It doesn't make sense to limit them to class 1. "Each device would cost Sh15,000 meaning the government could spend at least Sh15 billion in the first phase". From other news I've seen before, the govt (or their mouthpieces) did say these devices would cost KES 8,500 or thereabouts.
From https://twitter.com/OleItumbi/status/346704000147664896, I can see there is a plan to build Labs, and it was in the budget.
However, my question is still on the laptop. What is the _actual_ cost for a single unit? On 12 August 2013 13:21, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The government now says schoolchildren would not be allowed to walk home with laptops once they start using them from next year.
Ministry of Education officials Monday told a stakeholders' forum in Nairobi that lessons from other countries indicate there would be many cases of lost gadgets if school children are allowed to go home with them.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1944834/-/vlrgegz/-/index.html
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On 12 August 2013 21:57, Sean Moroney <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Mark,****
** **
I agree strongly with the strategy you propose: invest the funds in well planned school computer labs resourced with low-energy, thin client solar-powered systems that all students have access to. Even though KPLC has been tasked with powering up thousands of schools, this is going to take time – and even when connected, some schools will struggle to pay to stay connected.****
** **
The container-based system that Stonehouse has developed, using Aluetia computers developed in the UK specifically for African conditions, is one solution that should be seriously considered in my opinion. They are a client of ours and they recently sent me the attached document on their concept.****** **
So, Stonehouse knows Africa more than the Africans (just kidding) :) This is the concept. However, considering how many Std 1 pupils are in a single classroom (stream), I still don't think using even a 40" container will suffice. Assume a stream of 40 kids attending a computer-based lesson. You cannot say each kid will only occupy 1" - if we were to go with a 40" container. We must look at the average number per class based on those schools with the highest admission figures and design a Lab that can comfortably accommodate that number of pupils. I still think there is an opportunity for an architectural firm to design the prefab lab. This container thing does not cut it for me. There used to be Kenya School Equipment Scheme during my days in Primary School. Could this be their mandate?? And while still at it, is there a budget for IT Support Techie for this project? Every school will require at least one and don't tell me it's going to be a "computer teacher". This role must be played by a specialist. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
Well what do we really intend the kids to do with these gadgets? They will not be making apps at std 1. This is primarily info consumption and rudimentary creation mostly involving bright colors and toy like things. As Robert has pointed out there was an "impressive" presentation by UNESCO and the Ministry of Education. Are these presentations secret or is KICTANET an invite only club that does not share free flowing info and insights with the public? What was the point of the meeting anyway? Just to inform the "stakeholders" who had time and opportunity to attend and leave out everyone else? We will run in circles speculating about specs and whether they are laptops or tablets unless a united govt stand is established. I believe this is what we want, a single government position that makes sense. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]>wrote:
On 12 August 2013 21:57, Sean Moroney <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Mark,****
** **
I agree strongly with the strategy you propose: invest the funds in well planned school computer labs resourced with low-energy, thin client solar-powered systems that all students have access to. Even though KPLC has been tasked with powering up thousands of schools, this is going to take time – and even when connected, some schools will struggle to pay to stay connected.****
** **
The container-based system that Stonehouse has developed, using Aluetia computers developed in the UK specifically for African conditions, is one solution that should be seriously considered in my opinion. They are a client of ours and they recently sent me the attached document on their concept.****** **
So, Stonehouse knows Africa more than the Africans (just kidding) :)
This is the concept. However, considering how many Std 1 pupils are in a single classroom (stream), I still don't think using even a 40" container will suffice. Assume a stream of 40 kids attending a computer-based lesson. You cannot say each kid will only occupy 1" - if we were to go with a 40" container. We must look at the average number per class based on those schools with the highest admission figures and design a Lab that can comfortably accommodate that number of pupils. I still think there is an opportunity for an architectural firm to design the prefab lab. This container thing does not cut it for me. There used to be Kenya School Equipment Scheme during my days in Primary School. Could this be their mandate??
And while still at it, is there a budget for IT Support Techie for this project? Every school will require at least one and don't tell me it's going to be a "computer teacher". This role must be played by a specialist.
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Apologies found the presentations on the talk on a link provided on another thread. On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Mark Mwangi <[email protected]> wrote:
Well what do we really intend the kids to do with these gadgets? They will not be making apps at std 1. This is primarily info consumption and rudimentary creation mostly involving bright colors and toy like things. As Robert has pointed out there was an "impressive" presentation by UNESCO and the Ministry of Education.
Are these presentations secret or is KICTANET an invite only club that does not share free flowing info and insights with the public? What was the point of the meeting anyway? Just to inform the "stakeholders" who had time and opportunity to attend and leave out everyone else?
We will run in circles speculating about specs and whether they are laptops or tablets unless a united govt stand is established. I believe this is what we want, a single government position that makes sense.
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]>wrote:
On 12 August 2013 21:57, Sean Moroney <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Mark,****
** **
I agree strongly with the strategy you propose: invest the funds in well planned school computer labs resourced with low-energy, thin client solar-powered systems that all students have access to. Even though KPLC has been tasked with powering up thousands of schools, this is going to take time – and even when connected, some schools will struggle to pay to stay connected.****
** **
The container-based system that Stonehouse has developed, using Aluetia computers developed in the UK specifically for African conditions, is one solution that should be seriously considered in my opinion. They are a client of ours and they recently sent me the attached document on their concept.****** **
So, Stonehouse knows Africa more than the Africans (just kidding) :)
This is the concept. However, considering how many Std 1 pupils are in a single classroom (stream), I still don't think using even a 40" container will suffice. Assume a stream of 40 kids attending a computer-based lesson. You cannot say each kid will only occupy 1" - if we were to go with a 40" container. We must look at the average number per class based on those schools with the highest admission figures and design a Lab that can comfortably accommodate that number of pupils. I still think there is an opportunity for an architectural firm to design the prefab lab. This container thing does not cut it for me. There used to be Kenya School Equipment Scheme during my days in Primary School. Could this be their mandate??
And while still at it, is there a budget for IT Support Techie for this project? Every school will require at least one and don't tell me it's going to be a "computer teacher". This role must be played by a specialist.
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Let the children take the devices home http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NdWaZkvAJfM Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
As a community, lets advocate for the labs. There is no reason why a class 2 student should spend 7years in school without access to a terminal while a class 1 has 8 years of laptop access. Is common sense that scarce? ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh On 12 August 2013 14:01, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]> wrote:
The more they should just build LAB with terminal and let all children use the computers. It doesn't make sense to limit them to class 1.
"Each device would cost Sh15,000 meaning the government could spend at least Sh15 billion in the first phase". From other news I've seen before, the govt (or their mouthpieces) did say these devices would cost KES 8,500 or thereabouts.
From https://twitter.com/OleItumbi/status/346704000147664896, I can see there is a plan to build Labs, and it was in the budget.
However, my question is still on the laptop. What is the _actual_ cost for a single unit?
On 12 August 2013 13:21, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]> wrote:
The government now says schoolchildren would not be allowed to walk home with laptops once they start using them from next year.
Ministry of Education officials Monday told a stakeholders’ forum in Nairobi that lessons from other countries indicate there would be many cases of lost gadgets if school children are allowed to go home with them.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1944834/-/vlrgegz/-/index.html
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@wash The government exists with your taxes and support(again with taxes, patriotism blah blah blah.) It should thus be guided to the right path. Treating the government as an amorphous body that we have no real control over will leave Prof. Kaimenyi implementing horrendous things due to political pressure or rather tender pressure. As Kivuva says, it is rather strange that we are happy to sideline 7 generations in favour of incoming class one students. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote:
As a community, lets advocate for the labs. There is no reason why a class 2 student should spend 7years in school without access to a terminal while a class 1 has 8 years of laptop access. Is common sense that scarce? ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 12 August 2013 14:01, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]> wrote:
The more they should just build LAB with terminal and let all children use the computers. It doesn't make sense to limit them to class 1.
"Each device would cost Sh15,000 meaning the government could spend at least Sh15 billion in the first phase". From other news I've seen before, the govt (or their mouthpieces) did say these devices would cost KES 8,500 or thereabouts.
From https://twitter.com/OleItumbi/status/346704000147664896, I can see there is a plan to build Labs, and it was in the budget.
However, my question is still on the laptop. What is the _actual_ cost for a single unit?
On 12 August 2013 13:21, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]> wrote:
The government now says schoolchildren would not be allowed to walk home with laptops once they start using them from next year.
Ministry of Education officials Monday told a stakeholders’ forum in Nairobi that lessons from other countries indicate there would be many cases of lost gadgets if school children are allowed to go home with them.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1944834/-/vlrgegz/-/index.html
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Dear colleagues, I want to assure all KICTAnet members that ICT Integration in Education for Primary Schools in Kenya is on course. Retired President Kibaki launched our first pilot in 2006 at Kikambala Primary School Kilifi. There has been a National ICT Strategy for Education and Training developed in 2006 (where Walubengo and others facilitated its development), guiding ICT Integration in Education. Having participated in the design of the concept meant to guide laptop programme in Primary schools, I remember encouraging members in the forum at Strathmore University to move quickly and approach all leaders on mode of distribution and use (whether to be used in lab model or use by kids as take-away device). There are a lot of intrigues surrounding the two approaches, some driven at highest levels in Government. As such, I am confident that Dr. Mathiangi and Prof. Kaimenyi are equal and listening to all positive criticism and suggestions. Today, I know the Ministry of Education was holding internal stakeholders forum (MOE's agencies, teachers heads association, unions etc.) and hope that is subsequent sessions, they will include industry experts. Otherwise, professionals can book appointments with Temba John (Project Manager at MOE) and have a presentation whenever possible. B. K. Sang Executive ICT & EGov, Uasin Gishu County Former CIO / Head of ICT Department MOE ________________________________ From: kictanet [[email protected]] on behalf of Mark Mwangi [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:39 PM To: Barnabas K. Sang Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Govt: Children will not take laptops home @wash The government exists with your taxes and support(again with taxes, patriotism blah blah blah.) It should thus be guided to the right path. Treating the government as an amorphous body that we have no real control over will leave Prof. Kaimenyi implementing horrendous things due to political pressure or rather tender pressure. As Kivuva says, it is rather strange that we are happy to sideline 7 generations in favour of incoming class one students. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Kivuva <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: As a community, lets advocate for the labs. There is no reason why a class 2 student should spend 7years in school without access to a terminal while a class 1 has 8 years of laptop access. Is common sense that scarce? ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh<http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh On 12 August 2013 14:01, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: The more they should just build LAB with terminal and let all children use the computers. It doesn't make sense to limit them to class 1. "Each device would cost Sh15,000 meaning the government could spend at least Sh15 billion in the first phase". From other news I've seen before, the govt (or their mouthpieces) did say these devices would cost KES 8,500 or thereabouts.
From https://twitter.com/OleItumbi/status/346704000147664896, I can see there is a plan to build Labs, and it was in the budget.
However, my question is still on the laptop. What is the _actual_ cost for a single unit? On 12 August 2013 13:21, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The government now says schoolchildren would not be allowed to walk home with laptops once they start using them from next year.
Ministry of Education officials Monday told a stakeholders’ forum in Nairobi that lessons from other countries indicate there would be many cases of lost gadgets if school children are allowed to go home with them.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1944834/-/vlrgegz/-/index.html
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Hi, I recommend you all read Mr. Sang's post below on your large computers screens preferably in full screen mode especially since many of you were not present at the KICTANET forum held at Strathmore to discuss the laptops project and develop a position for the sector. There was also a brilliant presentation from UNESCO that complemented the MOE presentation, information was flowing freely and in abundance unfortunately only a few of us had the privilege of being present. For those proposing a lab please give up the device you are using to post and instead use the equipment at the nearest cyber, while at it also call Orange to install a land-line in your house in place of your mobile phones. Regards ________________________________ From: Barnabas K. Sang <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 12 August 2013, 15:06 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Govt: Children will not take laptops home Dear colleagues, I want to assure all KICTAnet members that ICT Integration in Education for Primary Schools in Kenya is on course. Retired President Kibaki launched our first pilot in 2006 at Kikambala Primary School Kilifi. There has been a National ICT Strategy for Education and Training developed in 2006 (where Walubengo and others facilitated its development), guiding ICT Integration in Education. Having participated in the design of the concept meant to guide laptop programme in Primary schools, I remember encouraging members in the forum at Strathmore University to move quickly and approach all leaders on mode of distribution and use (whether to be used in lab model or use by kids as take-away device). There are a lot of intrigues surrounding the two approaches, some driven at highest levels in Government. As such, I am confident that Dr. Mathiangi and Prof. Kaimenyi are equal and listening to all positive criticism and suggestions. Today, I know the Ministry of Education was holding internal stakeholders forum (MOE's agencies, teachers heads association, unions etc.) and hope that is subsequent sessions, they will include industry experts. Otherwise, professionals can book appointments with Temba John (Project Manager at MOE) and have a presentation whenever possible. B. K. Sang Executive ICT & EGov, Uasin Gishu County Former CIO / Head of ICT Department MOE ________________________________ From: kictanet [[email protected]] on behalf of Mark Mwangi [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:39 PM To: Barnabas K. Sang Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Govt: Children will not take laptops home @wash The government exists with your taxes and support(again with taxes, patriotism blah blah blah.) It should thus be guided to the right path. Treating the government as an amorphous body that we have no real control over will leave Prof. Kaimenyi implementing horrendous things due to political pressure or rather tender pressure. As Kivuva says, it is rather strange that we are happy to sideline 7 generations in favour of incoming class one students. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote: As a community, lets advocate for the labs. There is no reason why a class 2 student should spend 7years in school without access to a terminal while a class 1 has 8 years of laptop access. Is common sense that scarce?
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On 12 August 2013 14:01, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]> wrote:
The more they should just build LAB with terminal and let all children
use the computers. It doesn't make sense to limit them to class 1.
"Each device would cost Sh15,000 meaning the government could spend at least Sh15 billion in the first phase". From other news I've seen before, the govt (or their mouthpieces) did say these devices would cost KES 8,500 or thereabouts.
From https://twitter.com/OleItumbi/status/346704000147664896, I can see there is a plan to build Labs, and it was in the budget.
However, my question is still on the laptop. What is the _actual_ cost for a single unit?
On 12 August 2013 13:21, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]> wrote:
The government now says schoolchildren would not be allowed to walk home with laptops once they start using them from next year.
Ministry of Education officials Monday told a stakeholders’ forum in Nairobi that lessons from other countries indicate there would be many cases of lost gadgets if school children are allowed to go home with them.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1944834/-/vlrgegz/-/index.html
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Robert I'm totally with you on this. The issue isn't necessarily a laptop but a computing device. In fact if it were up to me I will extend this to all school going children. Lets be creative. Let the Jubilee Government really show us how digital they are by executing this as flawlessly as possible. Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 713 601113/ 0770 906375 "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad On Aug 12, 2013, at 3:48 PM, robert yawe <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I recommend you all read Mr. Sang's post below on your large computers screens preferably in full screen mode especially since many of you were not present at the KICTANET forum held at Strathmore to discuss the laptops project and develop a position for the sector.
There was also a brilliant presentation from UNESCO that complemented the MOE presentation, information was flowing freely and in abundance unfortunately only a few of us had the privilege of being present.
For those proposing a lab please give up the device you are using to post and instead use the equipment at the nearest cyber, while at it also call Orange to install a land-line in your house in place of your mobile phones.
Regards
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Hi listers, Could it be that we are barking up the wrong tree? http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Private+schools+to+roll+out+computer+programmes... Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
@Sang, True that. I do recall participating in the facilitation of the 5day ICT Strategy for Education a while back and it did envision what the government is trying to do. However, reading from other Listers you might agree that the government has been sending out mixed "Policy level" signals that must be confusing to stakeholders (the Tech-Partners, the Teachers, The Parents, The Content Publishers - just to name a few). I think CS Prof. Kaimenyi for Education (the process owner) must work with CS Dr. Matiangi for Min of ICT to deliver this thing successfully. The flip-flopping (e.g Laptop vs Tablet, Networked PCs vs No Networked PCs, Going home with device vs Locking them up, cost of Ksh26,000 through 8,000a nd most recently 15,000, etc) is not good PR. It betrays a project under seige by forces beyond the control of the Cabinet Secretaries. my 2Coins of analysis. walu. enjoy Uasin Gishu - the land of champions. ________________________________ From: Barnabas K. Sang <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Govt: Children will not take laptops home Dear colleagues, I want to assure all KICTAnet members that ICT Integration in Education for Primary Schools in Kenya is on course. Retired President Kibaki launched our first pilot in 2006 at Kikambala Primary School Kilifi. There has been a National ICT Strategy for Education and Training developed in 2006 (where Walubengo and others facilitated its development), guiding ICT Integration in Education. Having participated in the design of the concept meant to guide laptop programme in Primary schools, I remember encouraging members in the forum at Strathmore University to move quickly and approach all leaders on mode of distribution and use (whether to be used in lab model or use by kids as take-away device). There are a lot of intrigues surrounding the two approaches, some driven at highest levels in Government. As such, I am confident that Dr. Mathiangi and Prof. Kaimenyi are equal and listening to all positive criticism and suggestions. Today, I know the Ministry of Education was holding internal stakeholders forum (MOE's agencies, teachers heads association, unions etc.) and hope that is subsequent sessions, they will include industry experts. Otherwise, professionals can book appointments with Temba John (Project Manager at MOE) and have a presentation whenever possible. B. K. Sang Executive ICT & EGov, Uasin Gishu County Former CIO / Head of ICT Department MOE ________________________________ From: kictanet [[email protected]] on behalf of Mark Mwangi [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:39 PM To: Barnabas K. Sang Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Govt: Children will not take laptops home @wash The government exists with your taxes and support(again with taxes, patriotism blah blah blah.) It should thus be guided to the right path. Treating the government as an amorphous body that we have no real control over will leave Prof. Kaimenyi implementing horrendous things due to political pressure or rather tender pressure. As Kivuva says, it is rather strange that we are happy to sideline 7 generations in favour of incoming class one students. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote: As a community, lets advocate for the labs. There is no reason why a class 2 student should spend 7years in school without access to a terminal while a class 1 has 8 years of laptop access. Is common sense that scarce?
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On 12 August 2013 14:01, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]> wrote:
The more they should just build LAB with terminal and let all children
use the computers. It doesn't make sense to limit them to class 1.
"Each device would cost Sh15,000 meaning the government could spend at least Sh15 billion in the first phase". From other news I've seen before, the govt (or their mouthpieces) did say these devices would cost KES 8,500 or thereabouts.
From https://twitter.com/OleItumbi/status/346704000147664896, I can see there is a plan to build Labs, and it was in the budget.
However, my question is still on the laptop. What is the _actual_ cost for a single unit?
On 12 August 2013 13:21, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]> wrote:
The government now says schoolchildren would not be allowed to walk home with laptops once they start using them from next year.
Ministry of Education officials Monday told a stakeholders’ forum in Nairobi that lessons from other countries indicate there would be many cases of lost gadgets if school children are allowed to go home with them.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1944834/-/vlrgegz/-/index.html
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Thanks, Barnabas. You have just mentioned the right name - Temba John (Project Manager at MOE). Would it be possible for you to introduce Mr. Temba to this forum so that he can help clear the air on some of these issues which are still clouded in mystery. He must be have a very clear Project Guideline (or whatever PMs call it) and this being a public project (it's funded by taxpayers, I suppose) it does make sense to make the details of the project public for scrutiny, right?? I am interested in knowing a few things: 1. What are the specs of the 'laptop'? I believe this is already known. It's not like buying goat meat! This MUST be clear. We want to know if the cost per unit is justified. 2. From (1), we can know the Power Requirements, which then leads to the 3rd & 4th questions 3. How are the laptops going to be powered? Is it going to be a solar-powered system? Solar is better as we all know it's renewable. From this, we can then estimate the cost factor for powering the units for the number of hours they are supposed to run. 4. How is the content going to be driven? If the MOE have developed this content, then for sure we should start talking about the OS which is going to drive the laptops - and the security related to the OS, if I may add. 5. How are the devices going to be secured? An interesting conversation I've had with a member of this list introduced a very critical angle to the project: We all know there are schools which don't even have proper classrooms. These schools are not going to be asked to NOW build a Computer Building (as I guess it will be called) to store the laptops, right? All schools will need to have a facility that can support the devices, in terms of power supply, networking and storage (if the laptops will remain in the school). It's important to know if a school with 150 kids in Standard 1 (3 streams of 50 kids each) will get 150 laptops or perhaps there is a finite number of laptops that are going to be given to every school. The saying that each kid entering Std 1 will be given a laptop MUST be clarified - NOW. Suppose we have 150 laptops in a school, how are they going to be used/stored? I assume a laboratory (aka Computer Room). In this case then, it does make sense for the govt to contract a company (one of the cement companies) and an architectural company to design a prefabricated lab - complete with power sockets, seats, network infrastructure to support the utilization of the laptops. This prefabricated lab which meets certain standards can then be supplied to ALL SCHOOLS as part of the laptop project. With standardized features, we can then safely assume uniformity within the projects implementation. This way no school will lag behind when the whistle is blow my the match commissar (Kaimenyi) or when H.E. Commissions the laptop project. I believe members did get to see the following advert: http://goo.gl/zIrT7C. I am curious about the inclusion of Printers and Projectors!! *LOT No. Item Description Bid Security Amount (KES) * 1 Laptops 228,000,000 2 * Printers * 14,000,000 3 * Projectors * 20,400,000 What are the printers going to be used for? Why do we need printers if we can have a paperless setup? Who will fund the running of the printers (paper, toner, maintenance)?? And as if that is not enough, we have PROJECTORS! Now I seriously feel something is amiss. Projectors for what purpose?? Can't they just use a Smart Board? I believe even a 42" LCD Display connected to the teacher's laptop is big enough for a classroom. Anyway, my point is that with the publication of the Project Plan Document, we can then all see how the jigsaw will fit together. Where it falls short, we can all accept that there are limitations to everything. For avoidance of doubt, and to stop us from developing all sorts of conspiracy theories, the document MUST (*not* should) be made public for scrutiny. On 12 August 2013 18:46, Walubengo J <[email protected]> wrote:
@Sang,
True that. I do recall participating in the facilitation of the 5day ICT Strategy for Education a while back and it did envision what the government is trying to do. However, reading from other Listers you might agree that the government has been sending out mixed "Policy level" signals that must be confusing to stakeholders (the Tech-Partners, the Teachers, The Parents, The Content Publishers - just to name a few).
I think CS Prof. Kaimenyi for Education (the process owner) must work with CS Dr. Matiangi for Min of ICT to deliver this thing successfully. The flip-flopping (e.g Laptop vs Tablet, Networked PCs vs No Networked PCs, Going home with device vs Locking them up, cost of Ksh26,000 through 8,000a nd most recently 15,000, etc) is not good PR.
It betrays a project under seige by forces beyond the control of the Cabinet Secretaries.
my 2Coins of analysis.
walu. enjoy Uasin Gishu - the land of champions.
________________________________ From: Barnabas K. Sang <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Govt: Children will not take laptops home
Dear colleagues,
I want to assure all KICTAnet members that ICT Integration in Education for Primary Schools in Kenya is on course. Retired President Kibaki launched our first pilot in 2006 at Kikambala Primary School Kilifi.
There has been a National ICT Strategy for Education and Training developed in 2006 (where Walubengo and others facilitated its development), guiding ICT Integration in Education.
Having participated in the design of the concept meant to guide laptop programme in Primary schools, I remember encouraging members in the forum at Strathmore University to move quickly and approach all leaders on mode of distribution and use (whether to be used in lab model or use by kids as take-away device).
There are a lot of intrigues surrounding the two approaches, some driven at highest levels in Government. As such, I am confident that Dr. Mathiangi and Prof. Kaimenyi are equal and listening to all positive criticism and suggestions.
Today, I know the Ministry of Education was holding internal stakeholders forum (MOE's agencies, teachers heads association, unions etc.) and hope that is subsequent sessions, they will include industry experts. Otherwise, professionals can book appointments with Temba John (Project Manager at MOE) and have a presentation whenever possible.
B. K. Sang Executive ICT & EGov, Uasin Gishu County Former CIO / Head of ICT Department MOE ________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+bsang= [email protected]] on behalf of Mark Mwangi [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:39 PM To: Barnabas K. Sang Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Govt: Children will not take laptops home
@wash The government exists with your taxes and support(again with taxes, patriotism blah blah blah.) It should thus be guided to the right path. Treating the government as an amorphous body that we have no real control over will leave Prof. Kaimenyi implementing horrendous things due to political pressure or rather tender pressure.
As Kivuva says, it is rather strange that we are happy to sideline 7 generations in favour of incoming class one students.
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote:
As a community, lets advocate for the labs. There is no reason why a class 2 student should spend 7years in school without access to a terminal while a class 1 has 8 years of laptop access. Is common sense that scarce? ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 12 August 2013 14:01, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]> wrote:
The more they should just build LAB with terminal and let all children use the computers. It doesn't make sense to limit them to class 1.
"Each device would cost Sh15,000 meaning the government could spend at least Sh15 billion in the first phase". From other news I've seen before, the govt (or their mouthpieces) did say these devices would cost KES 8,500 or thereabouts.
From https://twitter.com/OleItumbi/status/346704000147664896, I can see there is a plan to build Labs, and it was in the budget.
However, my question is still on the laptop. What is the _actual_ cost for a single unit?
On 12 August 2013 13:21, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]> wrote:
The government now says schoolchildren would not be allowed to walk home with laptops once they start using them from next year.
Ministry of Education officials Monday told a stakeholders’ forum in Nairobi that lessons from other countries indicate there would be many cases of lost gadgets if school children are allowed to go home with them.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1944834/-/vlrgegz/-/index.html
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If I recall some information provided at the Strathmore briefing, 70+% of our schools are off the electricity grid. Solar infrastructure will cost about KES 3M per school (and it is wise to budget 50% of this amount for annual maintenance). We should query head teachers in our 20,000+ primary schools, who will in turn query their teachers and parents. 100,000 filled questionnaires can provide some very good localized insight :) If they want mobile labs with dumb terminals accessing a powerful workstation, let it be so. (Problem is that this is a single point of failure - so maybe there could be 2 workstations) If it is laptops, let it be laptops being used in classrooms. Let local communities suggest what will work best for them. Blessings Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Walubengo J <[email protected]> wrote:
@Sang,
True that. I do recall participating in the facilitation of the 5day ICT Strategy for Education a while back and it did envision what the government is trying to do. However, reading from other Listers you might agree that the government has been sending out mixed "Policy level" signals that must be confusing to stakeholders (the Tech-Partners, the Teachers, The Parents, The Content Publishers - just to name a few).
I think CS Prof. Kaimenyi for Education (the process owner) must work with CS Dr. Matiangi for Min of ICT to deliver this thing successfully. The flip-flopping (e.g Laptop vs Tablet, Networked PCs vs No Networked PCs, Going home with device vs Locking them up, cost of Ksh26,000 through 8,000a nd most recently 15,000, etc) is not good PR.
It betrays a project under seige by forces beyond the control of the Cabinet Secretaries.
my 2Coins of analysis.
walu. enjoy Uasin Gishu - the land of champions.
------------------------------ *From:* Barnabas K. Sang <[email protected]> *To:* [email protected] *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 3:06 PM
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Govt: Children will not take laptops home
Dear colleagues,
I want to assure all KICTAnet members that ICT Integration in Education for Primary Schools in Kenya is on course. Retired President Kibaki launched our first pilot in 2006 at Kikambala Primary School Kilifi.
There has been a National ICT Strategy for Education and Training developed in 2006 (where Walubengo and others facilitated its development), guiding ICT Integration in Education.
Having participated in the design of the concept meant to guide laptop programme in Primary schools, I remember encouraging members in the forum at Strathmore University to move quickly and approach all leaders on mode of distribution and use (whether to be used in lab model or use by kids as take-away device).
There are a lot of intrigues surrounding the two approaches, some driven at highest levels in Government. As such, I am confident that Dr. Mathiangi and Prof. Kaimenyi are equal and listening to all positive criticism and suggestions.
Today, I know the Ministry of Education was holding internal stakeholders forum (MOE's agencies, teachers heads association, unions etc.) and hope that is subsequent sessions, they will include industry experts. Otherwise, professionals can book appointments with Temba John (Project Manager at MOE) and have a presentation whenever possible.
B. K. Sang Executive ICT & EGov, Uasin Gishu County Former CIO / Head of ICT Department MOE ------------------------------ *From:* kictanet [kictanet-bounces+bsang= [email protected]] on behalf of Mark Mwangi [ [email protected]] *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 2:39 PM *To:* Barnabas K. Sang *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Govt: Children will not take laptops home
@wash The government exists with your taxes and support(again with taxes, patriotism blah blah blah.) It should thus be guided to the right path. Treating the government as an amorphous body that we have no real control over will leave Prof. Kaimenyi implementing horrendous things due to political pressure or rather tender pressure.
As Kivuva says, it is rather strange that we are happy to sideline 7 generations in favour of incoming class one students.
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Kivuva <[email protected]>wrote:
As a community, lets advocate for the labs. There is no reason why a class 2 student should spend 7years in school without access to a terminal while a class 1 has 8 years of laptop access. Is common sense that scarce? ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 12 August 2013 14:01, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]> wrote:
The more they should just build LAB with terminal and let all children use the computers. It doesn't make sense to limit them to class 1.
"Each device would cost Sh15,000 meaning the government could spend at least Sh15 billion in the first phase". From other news I've seen before, the govt (or their mouthpieces) did say these devices would cost KES 8,500 or thereabouts.
From https://twitter.com/OleItumbi/status/346704000147664896, I can see there is a plan to build Labs, and it was in the budget.
However, my question is still on the laptop. What is the _actual_ cost for a single unit?
On 12 August 2013 13:21, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]> wrote:
The government now says schoolchildren would not be allowed to walk home with laptops once they start using them from next year.
Ministry of Education officials Monday told a stakeholders’ forum in Nairobi that lessons from other countries indicate there would be many cases of lost gadgets if school children are allowed to go home with them.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1944834/-/vlrgegz/-/index.html
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@Barnabas, A pilot project launched in 2006, that's approx. 7 years down the line and still counting. A scenario calls for an objective assessment of this pioneer project to evaluate achievements, experiences and challenges faced, as well as pitfalls to avoid. This would offer invaluable lessons on how best to handle the incoming project, without re-inventing the wheel too much. Do we have any data or website that has this info that could validate and corroborate how far and wide on the ground the project has rolled out..? Harry From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barnabas K. Sang Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 3:06 PM To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Govt: Children will not take laptops home Dear colleagues, I want to assure all KICTAnet members that ICT Integration in Education for Primary Schools in Kenya is on course. Retired President Kibaki launched our first pilot in 2006 at Kikambala Primary School Kilifi. There has been a National ICT Strategy for Education and Training developed in 2006 (where Walubengo and others facilitated its development), guiding ICT Integration in Education. Having participated in the design of the concept meant to guide laptop programme in Primary schools, I remember encouraging members in the forum at Strathmore University to move quickly and approach all leaders on mode of distribution and use (whether to be used in lab model or use by kids as take-away device). There are a lot of intrigues surrounding the two approaches, some driven at highest levels in Government. As such, I am confident that Dr. Mathiangi and Prof. Kaimenyi are equal and listening to all positive criticism and suggestions. Today, I know the Ministry of Education was holding internal stakeholders forum (MOE's agencies, teachers heads association, unions etc.) and hope that is subsequent sessions, they will include industry experts. Otherwise, professionals can book appointments with Temba John (Project Manager at MOE) and have a presentation whenever possible. B. K. Sang Executive ICT & EGov, Uasin Gishu County Former CIO / Head of ICT Department MOE _____ From: kictanet [[email protected]] on behalf of Mark Mwangi [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:39 PM To: Barnabas K. Sang Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Govt: Children will not take laptops home @wash The government exists with your taxes and support(again with taxes, patriotism blah blah blah.) It should thus be guided to the right path. Treating the government as an amorphous body that we have no real control over will leave Prof. Kaimenyi implementing horrendous things due to political pressure or rather tender pressure. As Kivuva says, it is rather strange that we are happy to sideline 7 generations in favour of incoming class one students. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote: As a community, lets advocate for the labs. There is no reason why a class 2 student should spend 7years in school without access to a terminal while a class 1 has 8 years of laptop access. Is common sense that scarce? ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh On 12 August 2013 14:01, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]> wrote: The more they should just build LAB with terminal and let all children use the computers. It doesn't make sense to limit them to class 1. "Each device would cost Sh15,000 meaning the government could spend at least Sh15 billion in the first phase". From other news I've seen before, the govt (or their mouthpieces) did say these devices would cost KES 8,500 or thereabouts.
From https://twitter.com/OleItumbi/status/346704000147664896, I can see there is a plan to build Labs, and it was in the budget.
However, my question is still on the laptop. What is the _actual_ cost for a single unit? On 12 August 2013 13:21, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]> wrote:
The government now says schoolchildren would not be allowed to walk home with laptops once they start using them from next year.
Ministry of Education officials Monday told a stakeholders' forum in Nairobi that lessons from other countries indicate there would be many cases of lost gadgets if school children are allowed to go home with them.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1944834/-/vlrgegz/-/index.html
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@Barnabas, A pilot project launched in 2006, that's approx. 7 years down the line and still counting. A scenario calls for an objective assessment of this pioneer project to evaluate achievements, experiences and challenges faced, as well as pitfalls to avoid. This would offer invaluable lessons on how best to handle the incoming project, without re-inventing the wheel too much. Do we have any data or website that has this info that could validate and corroborate how far and wide on the ground the project has rolled out..? Harry From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barnabas K. Sang Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 3:06 PM To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Govt: Children will not take laptops home Dear colleagues, I want to assure all KICTAnet members that ICT Integration in Education for Primary Schools in Kenya is on course. Retired President Kibaki launched our first pilot in 2006 at Kikambala Primary School Kilifi. There has been a National ICT Strategy for Education and Training developed in 2006 (where Walubengo and others facilitated its development), guiding ICT Integration in Education. Having participated in the design of the concept meant to guide laptop programme in Primary schools, I remember encouraging members in the forum at Strathmore University to move quickly and approach all leaders on mode of distribution and use (whether to be used in lab model or use by kids as take-away device). There are a lot of intrigues surrounding the two approaches, some driven at highest levels in Government. As such, I am confident that Dr. Mathiangi and Prof. Kaimenyi are equal and listening to all positive criticism and suggestions. Today, I know the Ministry of Education was holding internal stakeholders forum (MOE's agencies, teachers heads association, unions etc.) and hope that is subsequent sessions, they will include industry experts. Otherwise, professionals can book appointments with Temba John (Project Manager at MOE) and have a presentation whenever possible. B. K. Sang Executive ICT & EGov, Uasin Gishu County Former CIO / Head of ICT Department MOE _____ From: kictanet [[email protected]] on behalf of Mark Mwangi [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:39 PM To: Barnabas K. Sang Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Govt: Children will not take laptops home @wash The government exists with your taxes and support(again with taxes, patriotism blah blah blah.) It should thus be guided to the right path. Treating the government as an amorphous body that we have no real control over will leave Prof. Kaimenyi implementing horrendous things due to political pressure or rather tender pressure. As Kivuva says, it is rather strange that we are happy to sideline 7 generations in favour of incoming class one students. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote: As a community, lets advocate for the labs. There is no reason why a class 2 student should spend 7years in school without access to a terminal while a class 1 has 8 years of laptop access. Is common sense that scarce? ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh On 12 August 2013 14:01, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]> wrote: The more they should just build LAB with terminal and let all children use the computers. It doesn't make sense to limit them to class 1. "Each device would cost Sh15,000 meaning the government could spend at least Sh15 billion in the first phase". From other news I've seen before, the govt (or their mouthpieces) did say these devices would cost KES 8,500 or thereabouts.
From https://twitter.com/OleItumbi/status/346704000147664896, I can see there is a plan to build Labs, and it was in the budget.
However, my question is still on the laptop. What is the _actual_ cost for a single unit? On 12 August 2013 13:21, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]> wrote:
The government now says schoolchildren would not be allowed to walk home with laptops once they start using them from next year.
Ministry of Education officials Monday told a stakeholders' forum in Nairobi that lessons from other countries indicate there would be many cases of lost gadgets if school children are allowed to go home with them.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1944834/-/vlrgegz/-/index.html
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Mark, IIRC, there was a stakeholders meeting with 'govt' some time back at Strathmore.EDU. At that point in time, these recent developments had not come out. The govt appears to "think" this project over in piecemeal manner. If the govt was to re-engage the stakeholders today I am sure they will come up with new positions. A laptop is a portable device. My understanding based on assumption was that each child entering class 1 was supposed to be issued with a laptop. Whether this was to be treated as a "personal issue" by the recipient is not clear to me since I haven't read that part of the Jubilee govt's manifesto, but I'd have believed once issues to a kid, the laptop belongs to the kid and they can personalize it. However, if the laptop was to be shared, and then be surrendered upon completion of Std 1, then it doesn't make sense. I am assuming the kid owns the laptop issued to them and uses this till they get to Std 8 - probably. So if the kids are only going to use the devices and leave them in the school, it also means there will be no homework based on the devices, right. Hence the justification for the govt to instead consider the labs option - and broaden the scope of this project beyond Std 1 as had been rightly said. Question now is: Is this project being implemented by the line ministry in consultation with the ICT ministry? What role is the ICT ministry playing? Is there a possibility that the govt can still listen to stakeholders input in view of the new developments or must another workshop be held 'to further consult', or is there a point of contact in the govt who is willing to listen and engage? Do you suppose the govt will be willing to consider other options other than 'laptop'? As it stands now, I am not even sure what the specs of this laptop is and whether it fits into the definition of a laptop. Anyone with the actuals?? On 12 August 2013 14:39, Mark Mwangi <[email protected]> wrote:
@wash The government exists with your taxes and support(again with taxes, patriotism blah blah blah.) It should thus be guided to the right path. Treating the government as an amorphous body that we have no real control over will leave Prof. Kaimenyi implementing horrendous things due to political pressure or rather tender pressure.
As Kivuva says, it is rather strange that we are happy to sideline 7 generations in favour of incoming class one students.
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote:
As a community, lets advocate for the labs. There is no reason why a class 2 student should spend 7years in school without access to a terminal while a class 1 has 8 years of laptop access. Is common sense that scarce? ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 12 August 2013 14:01, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]> wrote:
The more they should just build LAB with terminal and let all children use the computers. It doesn't make sense to limit them to class 1.
"Each device would cost Sh15,000 meaning the government could spend at least Sh15 billion in the first phase". From other news I've seen before, the govt (or their mouthpieces) did say these devices would cost KES 8,500 or thereabouts.
From https://twitter.com/OleItumbi/status/346704000147664896, I can see there is a plan to build Labs, and it was in the budget.
However, my question is still on the laptop. What is the _actual_ cost for a single unit?
On 12 August 2013 13:21, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]> wrote:
The government now says schoolchildren would not be allowed to walk home with laptops once they start using them from next year.
Ministry of Education officials Monday told a stakeholders’ forum in Nairobi that lessons from other countries indicate there would be many cases of lost gadgets if school children are allowed to go home with them.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1944834/-/vlrgegz/-/index.html
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Locking the devices in "secure rooms in school" may be a good strategy to deal with the safety of the devices. However, lots of CPU cycles will remain idle for the better part of the day, at the same time denying the kids an opportunity to interact more with the device. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote:
As a community, lets advocate for the labs. There is no reason why a class 2 student should spend 7years in school without access to a terminal while a class 1 has 8 years of laptop access. Is common sense that scarce? ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 12 August 2013 14:01, Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]> wrote:
The more they should just build LAB with terminal and let all children use the computers. It doesn't make sense to limit them to class 1.
"Each device would cost Sh15,000 meaning the government could spend at least Sh15 billion in the first phase". From other news I've seen before, the govt (or their mouthpieces) did say these devices would cost KES 8,500 or thereabouts.
From https://twitter.com/OleItumbi/status/346704000147664896, I can see there is a plan to build Labs, and it was in the budget.
However, my question is still on the laptop. What is the _actual_ cost for a single unit?
On 12 August 2013 13:21, Grace Githaiga <[email protected]> wrote:
The government now says schoolchildren would not be allowed to walk home with laptops once they start using them from next year.
Ministry of Education officials Monday told a stakeholders’ forum in Nairobi that lessons from other countries indicate there would be many cases of lost gadgets if school children are allowed to go home with them.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1944834/-/vlrgegz/-/index.html
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participants (12)
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Ali Hussein -
Barnabas K. Sang -
Grace Githaiga -
Harry Delano -
Kivuva -
Mark Mwangi -
Odhiambo Washington -
robert yawe -
S.M. Muraya -
Sean Moroney -
steve mutuvi -
Walubengo J