Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos
True that...@JK But as they say, the devil is in the details ...Is it possible that the new amendment has shifted the balance of powers on determining the dominance issue from the Communication Authority to the Competition Authority? What is the practice elsewhere? But more a pertinent question would be - what motivated the amendment? Is it that the Communication Authority was perceived to be unable/ill-equipped to deal with the issue and the Competition Authority may have a better chance of dealing with it? Or is it a matter of throwing a spanner in the works so that neither of them handles the matter? I dont have the answers..just thinking loudly. walu From: "ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk" <ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos Walu,Listers, The thing is not as tricky as it appears.It is in legal terms called "concurrent jurisdiction" and is common in many countries,including the UK. John Kariuki Sent from my Huawei Mobile -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos From: Walubengo J via kictanet To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk CC: Walubengo J This thing is very tricky. I do not envy the new PS, Broadcast and Telecommunications. Enough said :-) walu. From: Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: Rose Lukalo -Owino <rlukalo@gmail.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos The question that must be asked is whether that success of the tech sector is encouraging or stifling the emergence of others and future growth and expansion and in so doing serving the public with newer, better shinier opportunities. Behind the scenes conversations within the tech sector suggest to me that emergent players choose to play safe and stay out of sight of the dominant players lest they be whacked into oblivion for daring to demand a piece of the cake. That doesn't serve the new players in terms of freedom to contribute nor does it serve the public in terms of availability of choice, competitive pricing and service. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy <ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote: It may be more disturbing is that at this rate - we will be having stories in the archives about how great an innovative sector and Silicon Savannah Kenya really was really soon - or the rise and fall of the innovation space in the Silicon Savannah. We were hailed for being a "hotbed of innovation" recently. But if innovators will be constantly suffocated - there is little to hope for for innovation to have prosperity. Overall the tech sector is a major backbone of our recent economic prosperity. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
From the consumer rights perspective on whose behalf competition law exists, I think it is critical to take the conversation away from business and engineering and the technology and always reference the impact a business has in/on society.
It is after all why we as Kenyans "license" business and with that same authority we can revoke that license if at any point we feel a business is hurting citizens or disrespecting the privilege of doing business with them in any way. (Hands up if you still can't get your cellphone company to pick up the (_____) customer service lines.) On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It's bound to be an interesting ride! ---- CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos // BusinessDailyHome The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently monitor dominance and act against its abuse – leaving it with a narrow mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. ---- Shared via my feedly reader Regards, Nanjira. Sent from my iPhone. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rlukalo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gm... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Ahmed Maawy Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) Ambassador - Open Knowledge Director - Startup Grind Mombasa Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer (KE) +254 714 960 627 Skype: ultimateprogramer swahilibox.co.ke m-power.or.ke www.okfn.org startupgrind.com ajplus.net www.everylayer.com _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
See below, from October 2015 archives. Wishing you all a Happy 2016. Regards, -------- Dear Listers, I thought you may want to see the statement from the Director General in response to the proposed Statute Law (Miscellaneous Amendments) Bill, 2015. Forwarded for your reference. Regards, Rachel Alwala Assistant Director/Communications and External Affairs Communications Authority of Kenya PO Box 14448 Nairobi 00800 Tel: +254 703 042000 Email: alwala@ca.go.ke Website: www.ca.go.ke Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> 30/10/15 Many thanks Rachel, This is very refreshing taking into consideration the comments attributed to the CS in the Star yesterday. Indeed we have to safe guard the Independence of the Communications Authority. Again thank you for responding to the Community through the list after the discussions we had last week. Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet .or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. 2016-01-07 10:15 GMT+03:00 Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>:
True that...@JK
But as they say, the devil is in the details ...Is it possible that the new amendment has shifted the balance of powers on determining the dominance issue from the Communication Authority to the Competition Authority?
What is the practice elsewhere?
But more a pertinent question would be - what motivated the amendment? Is it that the Communication Authority was perceived to be unable/ill-equipped to deal with the issue and the Competition Authority may have a better chance of dealing with it? Or is it a matter of throwing a spanner in the works so that neither of them handles the matter?
I dont have the answers..just thinking loudly.
walu
------------------------------ *From:* "ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk" <ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> *To:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:00 AM
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos
Walu,Listers, The thing is not as tricky as it appears.It is in legal terms called "concurrent jurisdiction" and is common in many countries,including the UK.
John Kariuki
Sent from my Huawei Mobile
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos From: Walubengo J via kictanet To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk CC: Walubengo J
This thing is very tricky.
I do not envy the new PS, Broadcast and Telecommunications.
Enough said :-)
walu.
------------------------------ *From:* Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* Rose Lukalo -Owino <rlukalo@gmail.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 1:12 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos
The question that must be asked is whether that success of the tech sector is encouraging or stifling the emergence of others and future growth and expansion and in so doing serving the public with newer, better shinier opportunities. Behind the scenes conversations within the tech sector suggest to me that emergent players choose to play safe and stay out of sight of the dominant players lest they be whacked into oblivion for daring to demand a piece of the cake. That doesn't serve the new players in terms of freedom to contribute nor does it serve the public in terms of availability of choice, competitive pricing and service.
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy < ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote:
It may be more disturbing is that at this rate - we will be having stories in the archives about how great an innovative sector and Silicon Savannah Kenya really was really soon - or the rise and fall of the innovation space in the Silicon Savannah. We were hailed for being a "hotbed of innovation" recently. But if innovators will be constantly suffocated - there is little to hope for for innovation to have prosperity. Overall the tech sector is a major backbone of our recent economic prosperity.
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
From the consumer rights perspective on whose behalf competition law exists, I think it is critical to take the conversation away from business and engineering and the technology and always reference the impact a business has in/on society.
It is after all why we as Kenyans "license" business and with that same authority we can revoke that license if at any point we feel a business is hurting citizens or disrespecting the privilege of doing business with them in any way. (Hands up if you still can't get your cellphone company to pick up the (_____) customer service lines.)
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's bound to be an interesting ride!
---- *CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos <http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/CA-loses-power-to-regulate-dominant-telcos/-/539546/3021508/-/u0rm7ez/-/index.html>* // *BusinessDailyHome <http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/CA-loses-power-to-regulate-dominant-telcos/-/539546/3021508/-/u0rm7ez/-/index.html>*
The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently monitor dominance and act against its abuse – leaving it with a narrow mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. ----
Shared via *my feedly reader <http://feedly.com/>*
Regards, Nanjira.
Sent from my iPhone.
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Dear Listers May 2016 bring with it better things for all Kenyans. I am wondering whether on this issue we are passing judgement on CAK’s capacity in regard to technology/telecoms prematurely. Their human resource can be upgraded if need be, they can be provided with access to industry data should they need it, they have legislation giving them some teeth…they should be able to get the job done especially if they collaborate with other institutions rather than go to war. It might also be too early to determine the extent to which they can withstand external pressure (political or private sector) to make rulings in favour of interests that go against the public good. That said, whatever changes come in via Miscellaneous Amendments Acts can be reversed by future Miscellaneous Amendments Acts. There’s a glass half full somewhere here. Muchiri
On 7 Jan 2016, at 11:41 AM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
See below, from October 2015 archives. Wishing you all a Happy 2016. Regards, -------- Dear Listers,
I thought you may want to see the statement from the Director General in response to the proposed Statute Law (Miscellaneous Amendments) Bill, 2015. Forwarded for your reference.
Regards,
Rachel Alwala Assistant Director/Communications and External Affairs Communications Authority of Kenya PO Box 14448 Nairobi 00800 Tel: +254 703 042000 Email: alwala@ca.go.ke <mailto:alwala@ca.go.ke> Website: www.ca.go.ke <http://www.ca.go.ke/>
Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
30/10/15
Many thanks Rachel,
This is very refreshing taking into consideration the comments attributed to the CS in the Star yesterday. Indeed we have to safe guard the Independence of the Communications Authority. Again thank you for responding to the Community through the list after the discussions we had last week.
Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ <http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/>
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2016-01-07 10:15 GMT+03:00 Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>: True that...@JK
But as they say, the devil is in the details ...Is it possible that the new amendment has shifted the balance of powers on determining the dominance issue from the Communication Authority to the Competition Authority?
What is the practice elsewhere?
But more a pertinent question would be - what motivated the amendment? Is it that the Communication Authority was perceived to be unable/ill-equipped to deal with the issue and the Competition Authority may have a better chance of dealing with it? Or is it a matter of throwing a spanner in the works so that neither of them handles the matter?
I dont have the answers..just thinking loudly.
walu
From: "ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk>" <ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk>> To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com <mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos
Walu,Listers, The thing is not as tricky as it appears.It is in legal terms called "concurrent jurisdiction" and is common in many countries,including the UK.
John Kariuki
Sent from my Huawei Mobile
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos From: Walubengo J via kictanet To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> CC: Walubengo J
This thing is very tricky.
I do not envy the new PS, Broadcast and Telecommunications.
Enough said :-)
walu.
From: Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> To: jwalu@yahoo.com <mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: Rose Lukalo -Owino <rlukalo@gmail.com <mailto:rlukalo@gmail.com>>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos
The question that must be asked is whether that success of the tech sector is encouraging or stifling the emergence of others and future growth and expansion and in so doing serving the public with newer, better shinier opportunities. Behind the scenes conversations within the tech sector suggest to me that emergent players choose to play safe and stay out of sight of the dominant players lest they be whacked into oblivion for daring to demand a piece of the cake. That doesn't serve the new players in terms of freedom to contribute nor does it serve the public in terms of availability of choice, competitive pricing and service.
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy <ultimateprogramer@gmail.com <mailto:ultimateprogramer@gmail.com>> wrote: It may be more disturbing is that at this rate - we will be having stories in the archives about how great an innovative sector and Silicon Savannah Kenya really was really soon - or the rise and fall of the innovation space in the Silicon Savannah. We were hailed for being a "hotbed of innovation" recently. But if innovators will be constantly suffocated - there is little to hope for for innovation to have prosperity. Overall the tech sector is a major backbone of our recent economic prosperity.
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: From the consumer rights perspective on whose behalf competition law exists, I think it is critical to take the conversation away from business and engineering and the technology and always reference the impact a business has in/on society.
It is after all why we as Kenyans "license" business and with that same authority we can revoke that license if at any point we feel a business is hurting citizens or disrespecting the privilege of doing business with them in any way. (Hands up if you still can't get your cellphone company to pick up the (_____) customer service lines.)
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: It's bound to be an interesting ride!
---- CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos <http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/CA-loses-power-to-regulate-dominant-telcos/-/539546/3021508/-/u0rm7ez/-/index.html> // BusinessDailyHome <http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/CA-loses-power-to-regulate-dominant-telcos/-/539546/3021508/-/u0rm7ez/-/index.html>
The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently monitor dominance and act against its abuse – leaving it with a narrow mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. ----
Shared via my feedly reader <http://feedly.com/>
Regards, Nanjira.
Sent from my iPhone.
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The attachment to my earlier post (from the archives) Regards, 2016-01-07 12:28 GMT+03:00 Muchiri Nyaggah <muchiri@semacraft.com>:
Dear Listers
May 2016 bring with it better things for all Kenyans.
I am wondering whether on this issue we are passing judgement on CAK’s capacity in regard to technology/telecoms prematurely. Their human resource can be upgraded if need be, they can be provided with access to industry data should they need it, they have legislation giving them some teeth…they should be able to get the job done especially if they collaborate with other institutions rather than go to war.
It might also be too early to determine the extent to which they can withstand external pressure (political or private sector) to make rulings in favour of interests that go against the public good.
That said, whatever changes come in via Miscellaneous Amendments Acts can be reversed by future Miscellaneous Amendments Acts. There’s a glass half full somewhere here.
Muchiri
On 7 Jan 2016, at 11:41 AM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
See below, from October 2015 archives. Wishing you all a Happy 2016. Regards, -------- Dear Listers,
I thought you may want to see the statement from the Director General in response to the proposed Statute Law (Miscellaneous Amendments) Bill, 2015. Forwarded for your reference.
Regards,
Rachel Alwala Assistant Director/Communications and External Affairs Communications Authority of Kenya PO Box 14448 Nairobi 00800 Tel: +254 703 042000 Email: alwala@ca.go.ke Website: www.ca.go.ke
Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> 30/10/15
Many thanks Rachel,
This is very refreshing taking into consideration the comments attributed to the CS in the Star yesterday. Indeed we have to safe guard the Independence of the Communications Authority. Again thank you for responding to the Community through the list after the discussions we had last week.
Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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2016-01-07 10:15 GMT+03:00 Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>:
True that...@JK
But as they say, the devil is in the details ...Is it possible that the new amendment has shifted the balance of powers on determining the dominance issue from the Communication Authority to the Competition Authority?
What is the practice elsewhere?
But more a pertinent question would be - what motivated the amendment? Is it that the Communication Authority was perceived to be unable/ill-equipped to deal with the issue and the Competition Authority may have a better chance of dealing with it? Or is it a matter of throwing a spanner in the works so that neither of them handles the matter?
I dont have the answers..just thinking loudly.
walu
------------------------------ *From:* "ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk" <ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk> *To:* Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:00 AM
*Subject:* Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos
Walu,Listers, The thing is not as tricky as it appears.It is in legal terms called "concurrent jurisdiction" and is common in many countries,including the UK.
John Kariuki
Sent from my Huawei Mobile
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos From: Walubengo J via kictanet To: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk CC: Walubengo J
This thing is very tricky.
I do not envy the new PS, Broadcast and Telecommunications.
Enough said :-)
walu.
------------------------------ *From:* Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* jwalu@yahoo.com *Cc:* Rose Lukalo -Owino <rlukalo@gmail.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 1:12 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos
The question that must be asked is whether that success of the tech sector is encouraging or stifling the emergence of others and future growth and expansion and in so doing serving the public with newer, better shinier opportunities. Behind the scenes conversations within the tech sector suggest to me that emergent players choose to play safe and stay out of sight of the dominant players lest they be whacked into oblivion for daring to demand a piece of the cake. That doesn't serve the new players in terms of freedom to contribute nor does it serve the public in terms of availability of choice, competitive pricing and service.
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy < ultimateprogramer@gmail.com> wrote:
It may be more disturbing is that at this rate - we will be having stories in the archives about how great an innovative sector and Silicon Savannah Kenya really was really soon - or the rise and fall of the innovation space in the Silicon Savannah. We were hailed for being a "hotbed of innovation" recently. But if innovators will be constantly suffocated - there is little to hope for for innovation to have prosperity. Overall the tech sector is a major backbone of our recent economic prosperity.
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
From the consumer rights perspective on whose behalf competition law exists, I think it is critical to take the conversation away from business and engineering and the technology and always reference the impact a business has in/on society.
It is after all why we as Kenyans "license" business and with that same authority we can revoke that license if at any point we feel a business is hurting citizens or disrespecting the privilege of doing business with them in any way. (Hands up if you still can't get your cellphone company to pick up the (_____) customer service lines.)
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's bound to be an interesting ride!
---- *CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos <http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/CA-loses-power-to-regulate-dominant-telcos/-/539546/3021508/-/u0rm7ez/-/index.html>* // *BusinessDailyHome <http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/CA-loses-power-to-regulate-dominant-telcos/-/539546/3021508/-/u0rm7ez/-/index.html>*
The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently monitor dominance and act against its abuse – leaving it with a narrow mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. ----
Shared via *my feedly reader <http://feedly.com/>*
Regards, Nanjira.
Sent from my iPhone.
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Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) -
Muchiri Nyaggah -
ngethe.kariuki2007＠yahoo.co.uk -
Walubengo J