Nyaki Unfortunately the data collected by the Skills Taskforce with the help of Prof. Waema mainly focused on the first degree not postgraduate. I however agree with Tim that we have quite a number of postgraduates in IT and Engineering from all our universities. It is unfortunate that such data is not easily available for Collins and others who are interested in such information. Perhaps the Ministry of Education, IDRC (or other donor) or KICTB need to explore funding for such a study and the development of a National Skills database? Esther From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Catherine Adeya Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 5:12 PM To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] University Education in Traditional Computer Science. Tim, But I also wonder do the Skills Taskforce team have any statistics that would further help Collin's concern. There are many of these people out there in Kenya. Collins, that Registrar needs to go back to 'school'. Nyaki _____ From: Mwololo Tim <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 2:11:10 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] University Education in Traditional Computer Science. Collins, This registrar must be very ignorant - one wonders how he became a registrar if he does not know what happens in the few universities we have. We have had PhDs in Computer Science/Informatics since the 1980s/90s in this country, largely trained abroad. In our School of Computing and Informatics, we have a number PhDs and we have produced a number through our PhD program. I am at the moment supervising 4 PhD students and my colleagues are supervising others as well. In addition, we have graduated tens of Masters and Postgraduate Diploma graduates year on year since the 1980s. I have not done any research on the numbers in all the universities but this was an alarming statement and hence the quick reaction. Please be careful about your sources of information. tim waema On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 1:40 PM, [ Brainiac ] <[email protected]> wrote: An interesting discussion i had this morning with one of the registrars in a public university presents a very dire and wanting situation in education in Computer Science. (Pure & applied) whose conclusion was pretty much that there just arent postgraduates in computer science in the country. It came as a shocker and since my background is in Engineering and IT, i am inclined to ask... What is the status of manpower in the country in the discipline? how many people can qualify as lecturers, associate lecturers and professors in the science? -- Regards, Collins Areba. Strategic Operations. Center for Renewable Alternatives Old Ferry Road, off Msa Malindi Rd, | Kilifi, Kenya. +254 720 516758 /734 696821 | skype/gtalk/twitter: arebacollins Error! Filename not specified. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: [email protected] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/timwololo%40gmail.com