Re: [kictanet] Gov't threatens to shut media houses announcing election results - Citizentv.co.ke
My understanding on this matter, after an explanation from IEBC, is that media houses are free to share results as long as they don't announce a winner. That is the sole purview of the IEBC. The CS and IEBC should clarify ASAP to avoid confusion.
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Dorcas
You are being disingenuous. No media house in this country has ever purported to carry official results. However media houses can and should announce the results from different polling stations and constituencies. Often times the lack of information is what causes unnecessary pressure and concern. By the way it instructive to note that IEBC will put results on its portal and I understand that they actually provide APIs?
I think what you mean to say is that the media should act responsibly? Any Kenyan with a social media account, access to media can tally make their own tallies.
I'm curious why this major concern about media houses announcing results? What are we missing here? There is just too much pressure and focus to curb flow of information. This is a democracy. Let us remember that. And our constitution is clear and explicit on access to information. Let us leave KANU tactics where they belong. In the past.
Unless of course the CS was misquoted or taken out of context? #JustAsking..
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On 29 Jul 2017, at 5:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The media must act very responsibly. On this one, I will support the CS. Everyone may tally but a media house cannot purport to have the official record. Only IEBC has the mandate.
On Jul 29, 2017 4:13 PM, "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: This doesn't sound right. Two steps forwad one back.
Regards
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: https://citizentv.co.ke/news/govt-threatens-to-shut-media-ho uses-announcing-election-results-171742/?utm_source=onesigna l&utm_medium=notifications&utm_campaign=onesignal_notifications
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That's an interesting play of words... so let me demonstrate.. Candidate X - 2,100, 000 Candidate Y - 2,500, 000 Is that not announcing the winner? Or is declaring candidate Y the winner the offense here? Surely...why are we dealing in Oxymorons? Ali Hussein Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad
On 31 Jul 2017, at 6:43 PM, Wamathai (HapaKenya) via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My understanding on this matter, after an explanation from IEBC, is that media houses are free to share results as long as they don't announce a winner. That is the sole purview of the IEBC.
The CS and IEBC should clarify ASAP to avoid confusion.
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Dorcas
You are being disingenuous. No media house in this country has ever purported to carry official results. However media houses can and should announce the results from different polling stations and constituencies. Often times the lack of information is what causes unnecessary pressure and concern. By the way it instructive to note that IEBC will put results on its portal and I understand that they actually provide APIs?
I think what you mean to say is that the media should act responsibly? Any Kenyan with a social media account, access to media can tally make their own tallies.
I'm curious why this major concern about media houses announcing results? What are we missing here? There is just too much pressure and focus to curb flow of information. This is a democracy. Let us remember that. And our constitution is clear and explicit on access to information. Let us leave KANU tactics where they belong. In the past.
Unless of course the CS was misquoted or taken out of context? #JustAsking..
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
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On 29 Jul 2017, at 5:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The media must act very responsibly. On this one, I will support the CS. Everyone may tally but a media house cannot purport to have the official record. Only IEBC has the mandate.
On Jul 29, 2017 4:13 PM, "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: This doesn't sound right. Two steps forwad one back.
Regards
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: https://citizentv.co.ke/news/govt-threatens-to-shut-media-houses-announcing-election-results-171742/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=notifications&utm_campaign=onesignal_notifications
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From my understanding, declaring a winner is the issue. Only IEBC has that mandate.
On Jul 31, 2017 19:38, "Admin CampusCiti" <info@campusciti.com> wrote:
That's an interesting play of words... so let me demonstrate..
Candidate X - 2,100, 000 Candidate Y - 2,500, 000
Is that not announcing the winner? Or is declaring candidate Y the winner the offense here?
Surely...why are we dealing in Oxymorons?
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On 31 Jul 2017, at 6:43 PM, Wamathai (HapaKenya) via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
My understanding on this matter, after an explanation from IEBC, is that media houses are free to share results as long as they don't announce a winner. That is the sole purview of the IEBC.
The CS and IEBC should clarify ASAP to avoid confusion.
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 19:22:50 +0300 From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Gov't threatens to shut media houses announcing election results - Citizentv.co.ke Message-ID: <C03360CE-AC4C-4D8D-9D49-DD0C3C766CBA@hussein.me.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dorcas
You are being disingenuous. No media house in this country has ever purported to carry official results. However media houses can and should announce the results from different polling stations and constituencies. Often times the lack of information is what causes unnecessary pressure and concern. By the way it instructive to note that IEBC will put results on its portal and I understand that they actually provide APIs?
I think what you mean to say is that the media should act responsibly? Any Kenyan with a social media account, access to media can tally make their own tallies.
I'm curious why this major concern about media houses announcing results? What are we missing here? There is just too much pressure and focus to curb flow of information. This is a democracy. Let us remember that. And our constitution is clear and explicit on access to information. Let us leave KANU tactics where they belong. In the past.
Unless of course the CS was misquoted or taken out of context? #JustAsking..
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
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On 29 Jul 2017, at 5:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The media must act very responsibly. On this one, I will support the CS. Everyone may tally but a media house cannot purport to have the official record. Only IEBC has the mandate.
On Jul 29, 2017 4:13 PM, "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: This doesn't sound right. Two steps forwad one back.
Regards
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: https://citizentv.co.ke/news/govt-threatens-to-shut-media-ho uses-announcing-election-results-171742/?utm_source=onesigna l&utm_medium=notifications&utm_campaign=onesignal_notifications
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