Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
@Wambua jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case. One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-) walu. ------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. twitter.com/lordmwesh<http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities. The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening. If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible. sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <[email protected]> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= [email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= [email protected]]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected]> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. twitter.com/lordmwesh<http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
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Wambua The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'. Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved? History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding? I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <[email protected]> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible.
sad though.
On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <[email protected]> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. twitter.com/lordmwesh<http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
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Indeed Ali, your last paragraph is the response to your questions. The issues you raise are valid within such a policy, otherwise an open tender attracts everyone and you can't change the rules midstream to award a "favoured" bidder. Don't we all know that we have enough local road contractors capable of doing projects like Thika Road, etc? Merry Christmas From: Ali Hussein [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 07:31 AM To: Bernard Kioko <[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Wambua The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'. Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved? History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding? I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities. The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening. If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible. sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: @Wambua jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case. One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-) walu. ------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bbkioko>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]<mailto:[mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bbkioko>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke><http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua<mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bwambua>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. twitter.com/lordmwesh<http://twitter.com/lordmwesh><http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
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This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender... Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company. We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage? Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests! But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed! Merry Xmas. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya www.A1.io On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <[email protected]> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <[email protected]> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible.
sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <[email protected]> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= [email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko [email protected]]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected]> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. twitter.com/lordmwesh<http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
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+1 @Ali +1 @Ngigi +1 Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <[email protected]> wrote:
This is the same corruption issues disguised as 'competitive' tender...
Look at it this way, you want Kenya's airwaves to be digital. On one hand you get a national parastatal which performs below average on the other hand a foreign company.
We all know KBC wouldn't perform, so we will have our key national broadcast handled by a foreign firm. If some guy in China pushes a certain button, we could get a complete news blackout. Is that not a serious security risk that ought to have mitigated against during the bid requirements stage?
Now my hypothesis, the Chinese got this since the ones handling the tender could not get kickbacks from either KBC nor from the Kenyan consortium that generally operates in an industry where they dont have to pay kickbacks. With the incoming new government the ones handling the tender, had to line their pockets quick. Damn national interests!
But, we are where we are and them TV stations have been down for a number of days, interestlingly enough I havent noticed!
Merry Xmas.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies Nairobi, Kenya
www.A1.io On 25 Dec 2013 07:32, "Ali Hussein" <[email protected]> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <[email protected]> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible.
sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <[email protected]> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= [email protected]]<mailto:[mailto: [email protected]]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua= [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected]> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
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+1 -- these are actually unwritten and undebated rules of engagement in advanced economies..... Happy holidays. Eric here Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2013, at 4:31, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote:
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <[email protected]> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible.
sad though.
On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <[email protected]> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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Hussein,
From my recollection of the debates on this list and information in the public domain, here are some facts:
1. Local broadcasters were offered shares in signet and they refused 2. Because of procurement rules local broadcasters were asked to form a consortium that is inclusive of everybody to take up a third license, did they do this? 3. I am aware that a third license which was used as a pilot before the advent of digital signals (Oxygen) was acquired by some media houses 4. I thought digital meant that the competition would be on content and not infrastructure 5. As far as telecoms are concerned in any country, infrastructure is typically owned by a third party. (Read – UK, Vodafone was owned by Verizone and now AT&T is bidding for it) 6. Mobitelea was the result of trying to have local ownership anyway 7. What percentage of NTV is local? Ms. Benita From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 7:32 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Wambua The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'. Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved? History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding? I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers... Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <[email protected]> wrote: They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities. The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening. If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible. sad though. On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <[email protected]> wrote: @Wambua jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case. One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-) walu. ------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bbkioko> [email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bbkioko> [email protected]]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bwambua> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. twitter.com/lordmwesh<http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
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Pamela See my comments against your points. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Dec 27, 2013, at 10:55 PM, "Pamela" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hussein,
From my recollection of the debates on this list and information in the public domain, here are some facts: 1. Local broadcasters were offered shares in signet and they refused We are still not told what were the percentages offered. However, I think Dr.Ndemo put it quite well when he alluded to the fact that we may be bucking the wrong horse since digital technologies are changing faster than a New York minute. 2. Because of procurement rules local broadcasters were asked to form a consortium that is inclusive of everybody to take up a third license, did they do this? This is an issue of a flawed policy. I still contend that these rules MUST as a matter of course be skewed towards local companies. 3. I am aware that a third license which was used as a pilot before the advent of digital signals (Oxygen) was acquired by some media houses Not sure but if there was a third license then why all the hullabaloo? 4. I thought digital meant that the competition would be on content and not infrastructure That is contentious. As a matter of principle I have always advocated for shared infrastructure but that hasn't happened has it? Look at all the telcos digging up our cities individually..policy issue again that needs to be enforced. 5. As far as telecoms are concerned in any country, infrastructure is typically owned by a third party. (Read – UK, Vodafone was owned by Verizone and now AT&T is bidding for it) That is fundamentally incorrect although we are seeing the emergence of MVNOs like Virgin mobile but inherently most infrastructure is owned by the Telcos themselves. If I'm wrong I'm happy to be corrected. Kenya for example - each Telco is building out its own infrastructure despite efforts to consolidate it like the Government initiative called NOFBI 6. Mobitelea was the result of trying to have local ownership anyway That's a story for another day...:) 7. What percentage of NTV is local? Not sure of the percentage but like the other two major media groups, Royal Media and Standard Group they are majority owned by Kenyans. Although to be fair the NMG has a big minority shareholder who exerts quite abit of influence - The Agakhan Fund for Development.
Ms. Benita
From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 7:32 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Wambua
The issue I raise is beyond 'competitive bidding issues'.
Try owning digital signals in China, US or Europe if you are a foreign company. Why is it that we think that 'free markets' are only 'free' when African countries are involved?
History is littered with local protectionism for certain industries. In fact China and Japan are the biggest examples of this. Way do we see it fit to just give away our Crown Jewels in the guise of free and competitive bidding?
I understand that this may be beyond CCK's pay grade and should actually be addressed to policy makers...
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Bernard Kioko <[email protected]> wrote:
They can't share or come out like he just did. Theirs is not based on honesty and valid reasons. The use of court is so they can hide behind legal technicalities.
The CS said he has been available for dialog but they go chest thumb and threatening.
If they had any previous effort towards educating consumer they would hold moral authority in my space. Refusing to air paid adverts by cck....I say very irresponsible.
sad though.
On 24 Dec 2013 18:35, "Walubengo J" <[email protected]> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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Question what SLAs do the media licenses carry why hasn't there been any penalties levied for non performance... Just asking so holding the country is not so painless:-) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Walubengo J <[email protected]> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit.
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. twitter.com/lordmwesh<http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
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We are running around in circles here. Why didn't the consortium of local companies not win the tender? Because of infighting, myopia and daft pride. A consortium of all media companies would have enough oomph to win it. But they felt sharing is to mainstream and most decided to put in their individual bids. If the tendering was open then I support the Chinese company don't keep running to corruption. On Dec 25, 2013 1:02 PM, "Lkimani" <[email protected]> wrote:
Question what SLAs do the media licenses carry why hasn't there been any penalties levied for non performance... Just asking so holding the country is not so painless:-)
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Walubengo J <[email protected]> wrote:
@Wambua
jst seen the CS breathing fire on K24 on this matter. It looks like
this fight is moving from the courts into the public space. It sounds like its going to be looong and bloody. Ave heard from the Govt side, I wonder what the Media house side is...they are all here on KICTAnet and I wish they would freely share their view -outside the constraints of a court case.
One good outcome of the blackout from NTV, KTN and Citizen is the
discovery of KBC and KT24...had forgotten they exist :-)
walu.
------------------------------ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 4:39 PM AST (Arabian) Wambua, Christopher wrote:
Bernard,
CCK has not issued a third licence for digital signal distribution.
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Group] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:35 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital
Christopher,
I am an ardent supporter of the migration but I need to ask.
Have you issued any 3rd license to anyone?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=
[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko= [email protected]]> On Behalf Of Wambua, Christopher
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:54 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Consumer and Public Affairs; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling Importance: High
You will recall that the 2nd licence for digital broadcasting signal distribution was issued out competitively through an open tender. Some of
The two firms have set up digital platforms in Nairobi and other major
towns in country to support the migration from analogue to digital TV broadcasting. The issue of awarding the licences to a Chinese firm and a subsidiary of a firm on its deathbed is therefore a non-issue.
Best regards
Christopher Wambua Manager - Communications Consumer and Public Affairs Department Communications Commission of Kenya P.O. Box 14448 NAIROBI 00800 Tel: +254 20 4242209 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.cck.go.ke<http://www.cck.go.ke>
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kivuva
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:25 PM To: Wambua, Christopher Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] 3 Media houses protest Majanja's Digital Migration Ruling
On 23 December 2013 19:01, Ali Hussein <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected]> wrote: Brinkmanship.
To be fair though I can't help thinking how skewed we are as a country
Migration Ruling the local media houses expressed interest in the tender but lost out to the licence by the Pan-Africa Network Group in an open and transparent tendering process. They subsequently lodged an appeal to the Public Procurement Oversight Authority (PPOA) which was dismissed as lacking any merit. that the two digital signals are:-
1. Controlled by a Chinese company 2. Controlled by a defunct media company that is at its death bed..
+1 Ali
Capital flight is a KILLER of any economy.
Where have we go we wrong? Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world
will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya. twitter.com/lordmwesh<http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
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participants (10)
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Ali Hussein -
Bernard Kioko -
Eric Osiakwan -
Lkimani -
Mark Mwangi -
Mutua, Muthusi -
Ngigi Waithaka -
Pamela -
S.M. Muraya -
Walubengo J