Gov’t wants all cybercafés fitted with CCTV surveillance, users identified
The government seeks to license all internet cafés in Kenya afresh and introduce new controls in what it says are efforts to streamline regulation and spur the growth of the local ICT sector. Read more: https://www.citizen.digital/tech/govt-wants-all-cybercafes-fitted-with-cctv-... What do you think?
Hi Victor, If the License fees are zero then it will make sense otherwise regulation is becoming a business and it is very hard for small players who comprise 70 % of the economy to meet all this costs in addition to the fees being levied by the County Governments. Allow me to break the cost down for a simple Cyber Cafe: 1. Rentals 10,000 shillings Per month 2. County Council License 50,000 Per year 3. Connectivity : 10,000 per month 4. ccTV Installation 50,000 5. ccTV Maintenance (Provision) 5000 6. Staff 20,000 per month 7 Security 10,000 per month 8. Computers/Furniture and fittings 500,000 This is an affront on the Digital Superhighway plan and will render it naught if not thought through well. Lets check the motives if the issue is surveillance we call it Surveillance and find proper ways of conducting the same. Our focus should be to create an enabling environment that will enable the presidents goal of connecting as many people realized. Best Regards On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 11:43 AM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The government seeks to license all internet cafés in Kenya afresh and introduce new controls in what it says are efforts to streamline regulation and spur the growth of the local ICT sector.
Read more: https://www.citizen.digital/tech/govt-wants-all-cybercafes-fitted-with-cctv-...
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This has surveillance written all over it. Govt has better, bigger things to deal with ? On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 11:56 AM Barrack Otieno via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Victor,
If the License fees are zero then it will make sense otherwise regulation is becoming a business and it is very hard for small players who comprise 70 % of the economy to meet all this costs in addition to the fees being levied by the County Governments. Allow me to break the cost down for a simple Cyber Cafe:
1. Rentals 10,000 shillings Per month 2. County Council License 50,000 Per year 3. Connectivity : 10,000 per month 4. ccTV Installation 50,000 5. ccTV Maintenance (Provision) 5000 6. Staff 20,000 per month 7 Security 10,000 per month 8. Computers/Furniture and fittings 500,000
This is an affront on the Digital Superhighway plan and will render it naught if not thought through well. Lets check the motives if the issue is surveillance we call it Surveillance and find proper ways of conducting the same. Our focus should be to create an enabling environment that will enable the presidents goal of connecting as many people realized.
Best Regards
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 11:43 AM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The government seeks to license all internet cafés in Kenya afresh and introduce new controls in what it says are efforts to streamline regulation and spur the growth of the local ICT sector.
Read more: https://www.citizen.digital/tech/govt-wants-all-cybercafes-fitted-with-cctv-...
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This is very worrying. Cybercafés often provide a vital space for those who value or require anonymity, such as whistleblowers, journalists, or activists. Requiring identification removes this protection, potentially exposing them to retaliation or persecution, also this level of surveillance also makes it harder for people to freely express themselves due to the fear factor it creates. One can think it makes it easier for retaliation and abductions of both users and owners of intercafes. And this mass surveillance approach feels without grounds speaks to more of control than improvement of anything. Cybercafé owners may lack the technical expertise or resources to securely store user identification data and surveillance footage exposing this information to other threat actors who may abuse it. On the ethical side blanket surveillance treats all users as potential criminals, violating the presumption of innocence. I believe blanket surveillance should only be in place at protected areas, and areas that require extra safety and security. Marginalized groups, who may already face systemic barriers to accessing the internet will also suffer, imagine being refused access to cybercafe because you are presumed to look like a terrorist and the owners don't want any trouble? There is a risk that the surveillance measures will be used for purposes beyond their stated goal, such as political monitoring or targeting dissidents, turning these policies into tools for authoritarian control. On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 11:04 AM Cephas Joseph via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This has surveillance written all over it. Govt has better, bigger things to deal with ?
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 11:56 AM Barrack Otieno via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Victor,
If the License fees are zero then it will make sense otherwise regulation is becoming a business and it is very hard for small players who comprise 70 % of the economy to meet all this costs in addition to the fees being levied by the County Governments. Allow me to break the cost down for a simple Cyber Cafe:
1. Rentals 10,000 shillings Per month 2. County Council License 50,000 Per year 3. Connectivity : 10,000 per month 4. ccTV Installation 50,000 5. ccTV Maintenance (Provision) 5000 6. Staff 20,000 per month 7 Security 10,000 per month 8. Computers/Furniture and fittings 500,000
This is an affront on the Digital Superhighway plan and will render it naught if not thought through well. Lets check the motives if the issue is surveillance we call it Surveillance and find proper ways of conducting the same. Our focus should be to create an enabling environment that will enable the presidents goal of connecting as many people realized.
Best Regards
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 11:43 AM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The government seeks to license all internet cafés in Kenya afresh and introduce new controls in what it says are efforts to streamline regulation and spur the growth of the local ICT sector.
Read more: https://www.citizen.digital/tech/govt-wants-all-cybercafes-fitted-with-cctv-...
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When we hear countries like UG having internet shutdowns for over a week, we make jokes on twitter like they are another third world autocracy and with our constitution, hatuwezi wafikia. Well, we are in the same boat. The first time I saw similar regulation was some 4 yrs ago when TZ’s Magufuli came up with it. And I thought it was so strange and authoritarian. Best regards. Liz. PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 at 13:26, Michael Michie via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is very worrying. Cybercafés often provide a vital space for those who value or require anonymity, such as whistleblowers, journalists, or activists. Requiring identification removes this protection, potentially exposing them to retaliation or persecution, also this level of surveillance also makes it harder for people to freely express themselves due to the fear factor it creates. One can think it makes it easier for retaliation and abductions of both users and owners of intercafes. And this mass surveillance approach feels without grounds speaks to more of control than improvement of anything. Cybercafé owners may lack the technical expertise or resources to securely store user identification data and surveillance footage exposing this information to other threat actors who may abuse it.
On the ethical side blanket surveillance treats all users as potential criminals, violating the presumption of innocence. I believe blanket surveillance should only be in place at protected areas, and areas that require extra safety and security. Marginalized groups, who may already face systemic barriers to accessing the internet will also suffer, imagine being refused access to cybercafe because you are presumed to look like a terrorist and the owners don't want any trouble?
There is a risk that the surveillance measures will be used for purposes beyond their stated goal, such as political monitoring or targeting dissidents, turning these policies into tools for authoritarian control.
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 11:04 AM Cephas Joseph via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This has surveillance written all over it. Govt has better, bigger things to deal with ?
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 11:56 AM Barrack Otieno via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Victor,
If the License fees are zero then it will make sense otherwise regulation is becoming a business and it is very hard for small players who comprise 70 % of the economy to meet all this costs in addition to the fees being levied by the County Governments. Allow me to break the cost down for a simple Cyber Cafe:
1. Rentals 10,000 shillings Per month 2. County Council License 50,000 Per year 3. Connectivity : 10,000 per month 4. ccTV Installation 50,000 5. ccTV Maintenance (Provision) 5000 6. Staff 20,000 per month 7 Security 10,000 per month 8. Computers/Furniture and fittings 500,000
This is an affront on the Digital Superhighway plan and will render it naught if not thought through well. Lets check the motives if the issue is surveillance we call it Surveillance and find proper ways of conducting the same. Our focus should be to create an enabling environment that will enable the presidents goal of connecting as many people realized.
Best Regards
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 11:43 AM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The government seeks to license all internet cafés in Kenya afresh and introduce new controls in what it says are efforts to streamline regulation and spur the growth of the local ICT sector.
Read more: https://www.citizen.digital/tech/govt-wants-all-cybercafes-fitted-with-cctv-...
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When we did our research we found out that there is a vulnerable demographic <https://www.kictanet.or.ke/?mdocs-file=48324> that almost completely relies on these cybercafes to access vital services because they offer assistance. Otherwise no internet access. This has the potential to reverse so many gains in digital inclusion. I foresee so many opportunities for youth and PWDs negatively impacted and even more risks of exploitation as a boomerang effect of these pro-surveillance laws. On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 1:37 PM Liz Orembo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
When we hear countries like UG having internet shutdowns for over a week, we make jokes on twitter like they are another third world autocracy and with our constitution, hatuwezi wafikia.
Well, we are in the same boat. The first time I saw similar regulation was some 4 yrs ago when TZ’s Magufuli came up with it. And I thought it was so strange and authoritarian.
Best regards. Liz.
PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 at 13:26, Michael Michie via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is very worrying. Cybercafés often provide a vital space for those who value or require anonymity, such as whistleblowers, journalists, or activists. Requiring identification removes this protection, potentially exposing them to retaliation or persecution, also this level of surveillance also makes it harder for people to freely express themselves due to the fear factor it creates. One can think it makes it easier for retaliation and abductions of both users and owners of intercafes. And this mass surveillance approach feels without grounds speaks to more of control than improvement of anything. Cybercafé owners may lack the technical expertise or resources to securely store user identification data and surveillance footage exposing this information to other threat actors who may abuse it.
On the ethical side blanket surveillance treats all users as potential criminals, violating the presumption of innocence. I believe blanket surveillance should only be in place at protected areas, and areas that require extra safety and security. Marginalized groups, who may already face systemic barriers to accessing the internet will also suffer, imagine being refused access to cybercafe because you are presumed to look like a terrorist and the owners don't want any trouble?
There is a risk that the surveillance measures will be used for purposes beyond their stated goal, such as political monitoring or targeting dissidents, turning these policies into tools for authoritarian control.
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 11:04 AM Cephas Joseph via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This has surveillance written all over it. Govt has better, bigger things to deal with ?
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 11:56 AM Barrack Otieno via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Victor,
If the License fees are zero then it will make sense otherwise regulation is becoming a business and it is very hard for small players who comprise 70 % of the economy to meet all this costs in addition to the fees being levied by the County Governments. Allow me to break the cost down for a simple Cyber Cafe:
1. Rentals 10,000 shillings Per month 2. County Council License 50,000 Per year 3. Connectivity : 10,000 per month 4. ccTV Installation 50,000 5. ccTV Maintenance (Provision) 5000 6. Staff 20,000 per month 7 Security 10,000 per month 8. Computers/Furniture and fittings 500,000
This is an affront on the Digital Superhighway plan and will render it naught if not thought through well. Lets check the motives if the issue is surveillance we call it Surveillance and find proper ways of conducting the same. Our focus should be to create an enabling environment that will enable the presidents goal of connecting as many people realized.
Best Regards
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 11:43 AM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The government seeks to license all internet cafés in Kenya afresh and introduce new controls in what it says are efforts to streamline regulation and spur the growth of the local ICT sector.
Read more: https://www.citizen.digital/tech/govt-wants-all-cybercafes-fitted-with-cctv-...
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Dear Listers, I would like to put a human face to the issue of regulating ICT/cyber cafes. In the story by Citizen TV, "From USA to Dandora dumpsite: The story of 19-year-old Andrew" two ICT-related issues stood out for me: 1. John (Andrew's rescuer/mentor) used to watch movies at his friend's cyber cafe. This is how he improved his English (Access, ICT and education). 2. Andrew would like to venture into the music industry. He would like access to a recording studio. There are ICT products and AI tools that can help him begin his journey. (Digital economy). As the regulators seek to do their job, my hope is that they will keep these two young men and thousands of other young Kenyans in mind. Regards, Mildred Achoch. On Thursday, January 9, 2025, Barrack Otieno via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Victor,
If the License fees are zero then it will make sense otherwise regulation is becoming a business and it is very hard for small players who comprise 70 % of the economy to meet all this costs in addition to the fees being levied by the County Governments. Allow me to break the cost down for a simple Cyber Cafe:
1. Rentals 10,000 shillings Per month 2. County Council License 50,000 Per year 3. Connectivity : 10,000 per month 4. ccTV Installation 50,000 5. ccTV Maintenance (Provision) 5000 6. Staff 20,000 per month 7 Security 10,000 per month 8. Computers/Furniture and fittings 500,000
This is an affront on the Digital Superhighway plan and will render it naught if not thought through well. Lets check the motives if the issue is surveillance we call it Surveillance and find proper ways of conducting the same. Our focus should be to create an enabling environment that will enable the presidents goal of connecting as many people realized.
Best Regards
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 11:43 AM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The government seeks to license all internet cafés in Kenya afresh and introduce new controls in what it says are efforts to streamline regulation and spur the growth of the local ICT sector.
Read more: https://www.citizen.digital/tech/govt-wants-all- cybercafes-fitted-with-cctv-surveillance-users-identified-n355552
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Dear members, As a matter of fact, as is the norm of our country, this could be misused in future for purposes, like suppressing freedom of speech by the cyber users. Also, especially with our nation rank in matters of corruption, Kenyans may view this as a form of control rather than genuine attempt to control or improve crime or safety. Notably, it's a positive move, that requires clear guidelines, regulations and involvement by all stakeholders. Simon Macharia IT Trainer | Mentor | Software Developer | Digital Transformation Specialist | Entrepreneur | Founder | Customer-Centric IT Support Expert | Academic Administrator On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 11:44 AM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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Simon, I fail to see how this move is a genuine attempt to control or improve crime or safety. What crimes are committed at cybercafes? What safety is provided at cybercafes to owners and users of the facilities? Has there been any public outcry for these controls, or data to support its need? We are going to a future described in George Orwell's *1984. *I think in matters of safety and crime prevention CCTV has done little to deter criminals (evident by all the youtube videos or criminals caught on CCTV). here is an alternative approach for the need of safety and crime prevention: 1. Safety: train the population on internet use, that promotes safety and discourages abuse, discrimination, harassment and more 2. Crime prevention: threat actors rarely (if ever) go to a cybercafe to attempt to hack a bank or compromise accounts, they have more sophisticated operating systems that are used which the cybercafes do not have. 3. Crime: improve national internet security and educate your citizens 4. Safety: train people on how to secure their privacy while using public wifi and internet cafes 5. crime: have mature response to cyberthreats where stolen identities are used at cybercafes 6. crime and safety: cybercafes can resist access to illicit content On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 2:27 PM Simon via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear members, As a matter of fact, as is the norm of our country, this could be misused in future for purposes, like suppressing freedom of speech by the cyber users. Also, especially with our nation rank in matters of corruption, Kenyans may view this as a form of control rather than genuine attempt to control or improve crime or safety. Notably, it's a positive move, that requires clear guidelines, regulations and involvement by all stakeholders.
Simon Macharia IT Trainer | Mentor | Software Developer | Digital Transformation Specialist | Entrepreneur | Founder | Customer-Centric IT Support Expert | Academic Administrator
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 11:44 AM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The government seeks to license all internet cafés in Kenya afresh and introduce new controls in what it says are efforts to streamline regulation and spur the growth of the local ICT sector.
Read more: https://www.citizen.digital/tech/govt-wants-all-cybercafes-fitted-with-cctv-...
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@michiekel35@gmail.com <michiekel35@gmail.com> Kindly re-read my opinion. On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 6:03 PM Michael Michie <kmichaelmichie@gmail.com> wrote:
Simon,
I fail to see how this move is a genuine attempt to control or improve crime or safety. What crimes are committed at cybercafes? What safety is provided at cybercafes to owners and users of the facilities? Has there been any public outcry for these controls, or data to support its need? We are going to a future described in George Orwell's *1984. *I think in matters of safety and crime prevention CCTV has done little to deter criminals (evident by all the youtube videos or criminals caught on CCTV). here is an alternative approach for the need of safety and crime prevention:
1. Safety: train the population on internet use, that promotes safety and discourages abuse, discrimination, harassment and more 2. Crime prevention: threat actors rarely (if ever) go to a cybercafe to attempt to hack a bank or compromise accounts, they have more sophisticated operating systems that are used which the cybercafes do not have. 3. Crime: improve national internet security and educate your citizens 4. Safety: train people on how to secure their privacy while using public wifi and internet cafes 5. crime: have mature response to cyberthreats where stolen identities are used at cybercafes 6. crime and safety: cybercafes can resist access to illicit content
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 2:27 PM Simon via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear members, As a matter of fact, as is the norm of our country, this could be misused in future for purposes, like suppressing freedom of speech by the cyber users. Also, especially with our nation rank in matters of corruption, Kenyans may view this as a form of control rather than genuine attempt to control or improve crime or safety. Notably, it's a positive move, that requires clear guidelines, regulations and involvement by all stakeholders.
Simon Macharia IT Trainer | Mentor | Software Developer | Digital Transformation Specialist | Entrepreneur | Founder | Customer-Centric IT Support Expert | Academic Administrator
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 11:44 AM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The government seeks to license all internet cafés in Kenya afresh and introduce new controls in what it says are efforts to streamline regulation and spur the growth of the local ICT sector.
Read more: https://www.citizen.digital/tech/govt-wants-all-cybercafes-fitted-with-cctv-...
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Access Now did an analysis of some 2016 KICA Regulations where similar proposals to regulate cybers and identify users were proposed. https://www.accessnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Access-Now-Draft-Kenya-... . I'm just wondering how many cybers are in Mulot and Kamiti. Any stats would be helpful. Also, IMHO anyone wishing to bring ecitizen down or commit some online scams won't go to login in a cyber in the CBD and pay 1 Bob per minute on a 5 Mbps connection. According to the most recent CA statistics report, the total Cyber Threats Detected in Apr-Jun 24 were 1,131,696,878. CA should point out or articulate clearly the mischief they seek to address. On Thu, 9 Jan 2025, 18:49 Simon via KICTANet, <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@michiekel35@gmail.com <michiekel35@gmail.com> Kindly re-read my opinion.
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 6:03 PM Michael Michie <kmichaelmichie@gmail.com> wrote:
Simon,
I fail to see how this move is a genuine attempt to control or improve crime or safety. What crimes are committed at cybercafes? What safety is provided at cybercafes to owners and users of the facilities? Has there been any public outcry for these controls, or data to support its need? We are going to a future described in George Orwell's *1984. *I think in matters of safety and crime prevention CCTV has done little to deter criminals (evident by all the youtube videos or criminals caught on CCTV). here is an alternative approach for the need of safety and crime prevention:
1. Safety: train the population on internet use, that promotes safety and discourages abuse, discrimination, harassment and more 2. Crime prevention: threat actors rarely (if ever) go to a cybercafe to attempt to hack a bank or compromise accounts, they have more sophisticated operating systems that are used which the cybercafes do not have. 3. Crime: improve national internet security and educate your citizens 4. Safety: train people on how to secure their privacy while using public wifi and internet cafes 5. crime: have mature response to cyberthreats where stolen identities are used at cybercafes 6. crime and safety: cybercafes can resist access to illicit content
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 2:27 PM Simon via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear members, As a matter of fact, as is the norm of our country, this could be misused in future for purposes, like suppressing freedom of speech by the cyber users. Also, especially with our nation rank in matters of corruption, Kenyans may view this as a form of control rather than genuine attempt to control or improve crime or safety. Notably, it's a positive move, that requires clear guidelines, regulations and involvement by all stakeholders.
Simon Macharia IT Trainer | Mentor | Software Developer | Digital Transformation Specialist | Entrepreneur | Founder | Customer-Centric IT Support Expert | Academic Administrator
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 11:44 AM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The government seeks to license all internet cafés in Kenya afresh and introduce new controls in what it says are efforts to streamline regulation and spur the growth of the local ICT sector.
Read more: https://www.citizen.digital/tech/govt-wants-all-cybercafes-fitted-with-cctv-...
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The government in trying to solve a problem they are creating more. Cyber security is not about putting surveillance in cybers. Let the government create more awareness on existing cyber security laws to the citizens first. This will really help as opposed to what they are proposing. On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 7:30 PM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Access Now did an analysis of some 2016 KICA Regulations where similar proposals to regulate cybers and identify users were proposed.
https://www.accessnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Access-Now-Draft-Kenya-... .
I'm just wondering how many cybers are in Mulot and Kamiti. Any stats would be helpful.
Also, IMHO anyone wishing to bring ecitizen down or commit some online scams won't go to login in a cyber in the CBD and pay 1 Bob per minute on a 5 Mbps connection.
According to the most recent CA statistics report, the total Cyber Threats Detected in Apr-Jun 24 were 1,131,696,878. CA should point out or articulate clearly the mischief they seek to address.
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025, 18:49 Simon via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@michiekel35@gmail.com <michiekel35@gmail.com> Kindly re-read my opinion.
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 6:03 PM Michael Michie <kmichaelmichie@gmail.com> wrote:
Simon,
I fail to see how this move is a genuine attempt to control or improve crime or safety. What crimes are committed at cybercafes? What safety is provided at cybercafes to owners and users of the facilities? Has there been any public outcry for these controls, or data to support its need? We are going to a future described in George Orwell's *1984. *I think in matters of safety and crime prevention CCTV has done little to deter criminals (evident by all the youtube videos or criminals caught on CCTV). here is an alternative approach for the need of safety and crime prevention:
1. Safety: train the population on internet use, that promotes safety and discourages abuse, discrimination, harassment and more 2. Crime prevention: threat actors rarely (if ever) go to a cybercafe to attempt to hack a bank or compromise accounts, they have more sophisticated operating systems that are used which the cybercafes do not have. 3. Crime: improve national internet security and educate your citizens 4. Safety: train people on how to secure their privacy while using public wifi and internet cafes 5. crime: have mature response to cyberthreats where stolen identities are used at cybercafes 6. crime and safety: cybercafes can resist access to illicit content
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 2:27 PM Simon via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear members, As a matter of fact, as is the norm of our country, this could be misused in future for purposes, like suppressing freedom of speech by the cyber users. Also, especially with our nation rank in matters of corruption, Kenyans may view this as a form of control rather than genuine attempt to control or improve crime or safety. Notably, it's a positive move, that requires clear guidelines, regulations and involvement by all stakeholders.
Simon Macharia IT Trainer | Mentor | Software Developer | Digital Transformation Specialist | Entrepreneur | Founder | Customer-Centric IT Support Expert | Academic Administrator
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 11:44 AM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The government seeks to license all internet cafés in Kenya afresh and introduce new controls in what it says are efforts to streamline regulation and spur the growth of the local ICT sector.
Read more: https://www.citizen.digital/tech/govt-wants-all-cybercafes-fitted-with-cctv-...
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Before we justify limiting the right to privacy and adopt a surveillance culture, we must ask many questions. Three of them are: ... 1) How effective has the KSh. 15 Billion surveillance system been in solving real crime ? We may want to first evaluate the National Surveillance, Communication, and Control System for Nairobi and Mombasa. 2) Will the intrusive cybercafe surveillance demands be extended to all other spaces where computers are shared; such as in many homes, school computer labs, college libraries, virtual~shared offices and wherever hotdesking is common? If not, how will the goals of surveillance be achieved in spaces without CCTV and registration? 😎 3) The new approach seems to be in line with proposals for mandatory Dashcam installation in PSVs by the then Transport CS Kipchumba Murkomen in April 2024 ...and his proposal to use CCTV/ePolicing instead of traffic police to collect KSh. 50B in fines for traffic infractions, annually. That idea may become law if Parliament approves the Bribery (Amendment) Bill, 2023. What problem is being solved and is mass surveillance an appropriate response? -- Wainaina On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 7:30 PM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Access Now did an analysis of some 2016 KICA Regulations where similar proposals to regulate cybers and identify users were proposed.
https://www.accessnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Access-Now-Draft-Kenya-... .
I'm just wondering how many cybers are in Mulot and Kamiti. Any stats would be helpful.
Also, IMHO anyone wishing to bring ecitizen down or commit some online scams won't go to login in a cyber in the CBD and pay 1 Bob per minute on a 5 Mbps connection.
According to the most recent CA statistics report, the total Cyber Threats Detected in Apr-Jun 24 were 1,131,696,878. CA should point out or articulate clearly the mischief they seek to address.
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025, 18:49 Simon via KICTANet, < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@michiekel35@gmail.com <michiekel35@gmail.com> Kindly re-read my opinion.
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 6:03 PM Michael Michie <kmichaelmichie@gmail.com> wrote:
Simon,
I fail to see how this move is a genuine attempt to control or improve crime or safety. What crimes are committed at cybercafes? What safety is provided at cybercafes to owners and users of the facilities? Has there been any public outcry for these controls, or data to support its need? We are going to a future described in George Orwell's *1984. *I think in matters of safety and crime prevention CCTV has done little to deter criminals (evident by all the youtube videos or criminals caught on CCTV). here is an alternative approach for the need of safety and crime prevention:
1. Safety: train the population on internet use, that promotes safety and discourages abuse, discrimination, harassment and more 2. Crime prevention: threat actors rarely (if ever) go to a cybercafe to attempt to hack a bank or compromise accounts, they have more sophisticated operating systems that are used which the cybercafes do not have. 3. Crime: improve national internet security and educate your citizens 4. Safety: train people on how to secure their privacy while using public wifi and internet cafes 5. crime: have mature response to cyberthreats where stolen identities are used at cybercafes 6. crime and safety: cybercafes can resist access to illicit content
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 2:27 PM Simon via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear members, As a matter of fact, as is the norm of our country, this could be misused in future for purposes, like suppressing freedom of speech by the cyber users. Also, especially with our nation rank in matters of corruption, Kenyans may view this as a form of control rather than genuine attempt to control or improve crime or safety. Notably, it's a positive move, that requires clear guidelines, regulations and involvement by all stakeholders.
Simon Macharia IT Trainer | Mentor | Software Developer | Digital Transformation Specialist | Entrepreneur | Founder | Customer-Centric IT Support Expert | Academic Administrator
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 11:44 AM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
The government seeks to license all internet cafés in Kenya afresh and introduce new controls in what it says are efforts to streamline regulation and spur the growth of the local ICT sector.
Read more: https://www.citizen.digital/tech/govt-wants-all-cybercafes-fitted-with-cctv-...
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participants (10)
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Barrack Otieno -
Cephas Joseph -
Florence Awino -
Liz Orembo -
Michael Michie -
Mildred Achoch -
REDO KENYA -
Simon -
Victor Kapiyo -
Wainaina Mungai