Professional Certification and Standardization a Must, is this feasible?
Listers, I am just going through an article by Harry Hare in the CIO magazine Vol 4 March 2012. He mentions efforts by the Computer Society of Kenya and the IT standards association to institutionalise some form of standards, it appears there is no organisation to spearhead this initiative. I am involved in Standards developement at Kenya Bureu of Standards (ISO 27000 series) together with a number of colleagues on the list and must admit it has been frustrating to get this message out there to the industry, how practical is it to use the Directorate of industrial training to enforce this? Best Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
Maybe there is no value to employers ? I can hire without a government test And what will the test test ? There is Microsoft Certified Professionals, LPI, Cisco exams. Java Exams So what is being tested ? Will Kenya do a better job than microsoft, sun, oracle, cisco ? Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sender: kictanet-bounces+agostal=gmail.com@lists.kictanet.or.keDate: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:04:51 To: Agosta Liko<agostal@gmail.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Professional Certification and Standardization a Must, is this feasible? Listers, I am just going through an article by Harry Hare in the CIO magazine Vol 4 March 2012. He mentions efforts by the Computer Society of Kenya and the IT standards association to institutionalise some form of standards, it appears there is no organisation to spearhead this initiative. I am involved in Standards developement at Kenya Bureu of Standards (ISO 27000 series) together with a number of colleagues on the list and must admit it has been frustrating to get this message out there to the industry, how practical is it to use the Directorate of industrial training to enforce this? Best Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/agostal%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
Well i like your argument Liko, thinking aloud certification and standardization works well within a defined strategy, do we have a national ICT strategy, any one willing to share a copy, i am sure this debate might make more sense within such a framework. On 4/23/12, agostal@gmail.com <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe there is no value to employers ? I can hire without a government test
And what will the test test ? There is Microsoft Certified Professionals, LPI, Cisco exams. Java Exams
So what is being tested ?
Will Kenya do a better job than microsoft, sun, oracle, cisco ?
Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Listers,
I am just going through an article by Harry Hare in the CIO magazine Vol 4 March 2012. He mentions efforts by the Computer Society of Kenya and the IT standards association to institutionalise some form of standards, it appears there is no organisation to spearhead this initiative. I am involved in Standards developement at Kenya Bureu of Standards (ISO 27000 series) together with a number of colleagues on the list and must admit it has been frustrating to get this message out there to the industry, how practical is it to use the Directorate of industrial training to enforce this?
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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Thank you Dr. Siganga, that is the same quagmire we are facing in the standards developement body where is represent CSK, apparently only Food and Health related standards are mandatory, from the look of things it appears Ministry of Trade or Industry has an important role to play in conjuntion with the Ministry of Information and Communication, that is why i thought DIT might help enforce since if the government and Juakali sectors embrace the standards the whole country will embrace them. On 4/23/12, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Well i like your argument Liko, thinking aloud certification and standardization works well within a defined strategy, do we have a national ICT strategy, any one willing to share a copy, i am sure this debate might make more sense within such a framework.
On 4/23/12, agostal@gmail.com <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe there is no value to employers ? I can hire without a government test
And what will the test test ? There is Microsoft Certified Professionals, LPI, Cisco exams. Java Exams
So what is being tested ?
Will Kenya do a better job than microsoft, sun, oracle, cisco ?
Sent from my BlackBerry®
-----Original Message----- From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Sender: kictanet-bounces+agostal=gmail.com@lists.kictanet.or.keDate: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:04:51 To: Agosta Liko<agostal@gmail.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Professional Certification and Standardization a Must, is this feasible?
Listers,
I am just going through an article by Harry Hare in the CIO magazine Vol 4 March 2012. He mentions efforts by the Computer Society of Kenya and the IT standards association to institutionalise some form of standards, it appears there is no organisation to spearhead this initiative. I am involved in Standards developement at Kenya Bureu of Standards (ISO 27000 series) together with a number of colleagues on the list and must admit it has been frustrating to get this message out there to the industry, how practical is it to use the Directorate of industrial training to enforce this?
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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Hi Barrack - At the moment there is no statutory framework for IT professional Standards and Certification and any efforts have to rely on voluntary uptake. Perhaps Capt (Rtd) Kirongothi of ITSA (who I presume is lurking somewhere in a corner of the list) could have some update. Some years back we had a discussion on this list and some were even opposed to such standards which they argued appeared like regulating creativity and innovation. I am not sure that DIT has any mandate in the standards area. Perhaps KEBS where you are doing some work implementing ISO 2700 could be a better vehicle. On Mon, Apr 23, 2012, at 01:04 PM, Barrack Otieno wrote:
Listers,
I am just going through an article by Harry Hare in the CIO magazine Vol 4 March 2012. He mentions efforts by the Computer Society of Kenya and the IT standards association to institutionalise some form of standards, it appears there is no organisation to spearhead this initiative. I am involved in Standards developement at Kenya Bureu of Standards (ISO 27000 series) together with a number of colleagues on the list and must admit it has been frustrating to get this message out there to the industry, how practical is it to use the Directorate of industrial training to enforce this?
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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