Can technology solve terrorist problems in Kenya?
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2... I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken. -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
How much is this tender worth? On 14 Apr 2014 22:23, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <[email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
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Am wondering how the US makes do without an ID system but can root out non-citizens. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Dennis Kioko <[email protected]> wrote:
How much is this tender worth?
On 14 Apr 2014 22:23, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <[email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
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If anyone recalls I asked for assistance in 2011 to build a database of all the refugees in the country with distributed points of registration starting in the camps. I wrote to Ndemo who was PS at the time and the idea was ignored. IT can change a lot, but it requires real effort and implementation. Good ideas alone are not enough. Best wishes, Crystal Watley Kigoni http://tz.linkedin.com/pub/crystal-kigoni/<http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/crystal-kigoni/> http://www.voicesofafrica.org Twitter: @VoicesofAfrica https://www.facebook.com/VOA4SD +255686247626 On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < [email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
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Mwendwa, Our biggest challenge in achieving vision 2030 is in the Social and Political pillar. We need a concerted effort that will ensure that we are a value driven society, this is the only way we will tame social vices that have resulted in the current mess we are in. That said it can be done. Technology is a means to an end not an end in itself. Best Regards On 4/15/14, Crystal Watley Kigoni <[email protected]> wrote:
If anyone recalls I asked for assistance in 2011 to build a database of all the refugees in the country with distributed points of registration starting in the camps. I wrote to Ndemo who was PS at the time and the idea was ignored.
IT can change a lot, but it requires real effort and implementation. Good ideas alone are not enough.
Best wishes,
Crystal Watley Kigoni http://tz.linkedin.com/pub/crystal-kigoni/<http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/crystal-kigoni/> http://www.voicesofafrica.org Twitter: @VoicesofAfrica https://www.facebook.com/VOA4SD
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On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < [email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
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Barrack Couldn't agree with you more. Though technology can change habits it needs to be anchored on solid a social pillar. The other day I read a quote from Chris Kirubi about social media. What struck me is what he said,about technology. Although the quote was about social media and Brand Strategy I loved what he said about Technology being the tail NOT the dog. "You don't need a social media strategy - you need a brand strategy that leverages social media. Don't get off the brand strategy just because there's a new communications channel, that's how you lose the plot as a brand. Technology is the tail, not the dog," Chris Kirubi, Chairman of Coca Cola Nairobi (via Tim Sanders). So who wags who? The dog or the tail? Food for thought. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Barrack Otieno <[email protected]> wrote:
Mwendwa,
Our biggest challenge in achieving vision 2030 is in the Social and Political pillar. We need a concerted effort that will ensure that we are a value driven society, this is the only way we will tame social vices that have resulted in the current mess we are in. That said it can be done. Technology is a means to an end not an end in itself.
Best Regards
On 4/15/14, Crystal Watley Kigoni <[email protected]> wrote: If anyone recalls I asked for assistance in 2011 to build a database of all the refugees in the country with distributed points of registration starting in the camps. I wrote to Ndemo who was PS at the time and the idea was ignored.
IT can change a lot, but it requires real effort and implementation. Good ideas alone are not enough.
Best wishes,
Crystal Watley Kigoni http://tz.linkedin.com/pub/crystal-kigoni/<http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/crystal-kigoni/> http://www.voicesofafrica.org Twitter: @VoicesofAfrica https://www.facebook.com/VOA4SD
+255686247626
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < [email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
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True Ali, Michael Joseph kept saying we are a country on the verge of greatness but its this social vices that prevent us from achieving greatness as a country, if we sort this pillar we will achieve vision 2030 before 2030. Regards On 4/15/14, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote:
Barrack
Couldn't agree with you more. Though technology can change habits it needs to be anchored on solid a social pillar. The other day I read a quote from Chris Kirubi about social media. What struck me is what he said,about technology. Although the quote was about social media and Brand Strategy I loved what he said about Technology being the tail NOT the dog.
"You don't need a social media strategy - you need a brand strategy that leverages social media. Don't get off the brand strategy just because there's a new communications channel, that's how you lose the plot as a brand. Technology is the tail, not the dog," Chris Kirubi, Chairman of Coca Cola Nairobi (via Tim Sanders).
So who wags who? The dog or the tail? Food for thought.
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
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On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Barrack Otieno <[email protected]> wrote:
Mwendwa,
Our biggest challenge in achieving vision 2030 is in the Social and Political pillar. We need a concerted effort that will ensure that we are a value driven society, this is the only way we will tame social vices that have resulted in the current mess we are in. That said it can be done. Technology is a means to an end not an end in itself.
Best Regards
On 4/15/14, Crystal Watley Kigoni <[email protected]> wrote: If anyone recalls I asked for assistance in 2011 to build a database of all the refugees in the country with distributed points of registration starting in the camps. I wrote to Ndemo who was PS at the time and the idea was ignored.
IT can change a lot, but it requires real effort and implementation. Good ideas alone are not enough.
Best wishes,
Crystal Watley Kigoni http://tz.linkedin.com/pub/crystal-kigoni/<http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/crystal-kigoni/> http://www.voicesofafrica.org Twitter: @VoicesofAfrica https://www.facebook.com/VOA4SD
+255686247626
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < [email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
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1. Pervasive CCTV on all major routes and public spaces 2. Shared/Centralized databases for biometrics 3. Comprehensive "Watchlist" with as much biodata on suspects and potential suspects as can be gathered 4. Facial recognition technology 5. Top notch physical and digital forensics labs, tools and personnel 6. Encrypted inter-personnel communication (especially for first responders, investigative teams and key decision makers) 7. Fully integrated border control systems 8. Intelligence/Law enforcement access to all debit/credit card transactions (identity, location and time/date, not amounts) My two cents, Mblayo On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Barrack Otieno <[email protected]>wrote:
True Ali,
Michael Joseph kept saying we are a country on the verge of greatness but its this social vices that prevent us from achieving greatness as a country, if we sort this pillar we will achieve vision 2030 before 2030.
Regards
Barrack
Couldn't agree with you more. Though technology can change habits it needs to be anchored on solid a social pillar. The other day I read a quote from Chris Kirubi about social media. What struck me is what he said,about technology. Although the quote was about social media and Brand Strategy I loved what he said about Technology being the tail NOT the dog.
"You don't need a social media strategy - you need a brand strategy that leverages social media. Don't get off the brand strategy just because there's a new communications channel, that's how you lose the plot as a brand. Technology is the tail, not the dog," Chris Kirubi, Chairman of Coca Cola Nairobi (via Tim Sanders).
So who wags who? The dog or the tail? Food for thought.
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Barrack Otieno <[email protected]> wrote:
Mwendwa,
Our biggest challenge in achieving vision 2030 is in the Social and Political pillar. We need a concerted effort that will ensure that we are a value driven society, this is the only way we will tame social vices that have resulted in the current mess we are in. That said it can be done. Technology is a means to an end not an end in itself.
Best Regards
On 4/15/14, Crystal Watley Kigoni <[email protected]> wrote: If anyone recalls I asked for assistance in 2011 to build a database of all the refugees in the country with distributed points of registration starting in the camps. I wrote to Ndemo who was PS at the time and the idea was ignored.
IT can change a lot, but it requires real effort and implementation. Good ideas alone are not enough.
Best wishes,
Crystal Watley Kigoni http://tz.linkedin.com/pub/crystal-kigoni/<; http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/crystal-kigoni/> http://www.voicesofafrica.org Twitter: @VoicesofAfrica https://www.facebook.com/VOA4SD
+255686247626
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < [email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
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bandwidth,
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Barrack, after re-basing our economic indicators, we will achieve vision 2030 in September 2014. We have already achieved vision 2030! Even with strong social values, foreigners are still able to forge identity cards and birth certificates without involving authorities. I've never seen a validation system in place; either in banks, schools, civil service, e.t.c. were they verify the authenticity of kipande. On 15/04/2014, Barrack Otieno <[email protected]> wrote:
True Ali,
Michael Joseph kept saying we are a country on the verge of greatness but its this social vices that prevent us from achieving greatness as a country, if we sort this pillar we will achieve vision 2030 before 2030.
Regards
On 4/15/14, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote:
Barrack
Couldn't agree with you more. Though technology can change habits it needs to be anchored on solid a social pillar. The other day I read a quote from Chris Kirubi about social media. What struck me is what he said,about technology. Although the quote was about social media and Brand Strategy I loved what he said about Technology being the tail NOT the dog.
"You don't need a social media strategy - you need a brand strategy that leverages social media. Don't get off the brand strategy just because there's a new communications channel, that's how you lose the plot as a brand. Technology is the tail, not the dog," Chris Kirubi, Chairman of Coca Cola Nairobi (via Tim Sanders).
So who wags who? The dog or the tail? Food for thought.
Ali Hussein
+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Barrack Otieno <[email protected]> wrote:
Mwendwa,
Our biggest challenge in achieving vision 2030 is in the Social and Political pillar. We need a concerted effort that will ensure that we are a value driven society, this is the only way we will tame social vices that have resulted in the current mess we are in. That said it can be done. Technology is a means to an end not an end in itself.
Best Regards
On 4/15/14, Crystal Watley Kigoni <[email protected]> wrote: If anyone recalls I asked for assistance in 2011 to build a database of all the refugees in the country with distributed points of registration starting in the camps. I wrote to Ndemo who was PS at the time and the idea was ignored.
IT can change a lot, but it requires real effort and implementation. Good ideas alone are not enough.
Best wishes,
Crystal Watley Kigoni http://tz.linkedin.com/pub/crystal-kigoni/<http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/crystal-kigoni/> http://www.voicesofafrica.org Twitter: @VoicesofAfrica https://www.facebook.com/VOA4SD
+255686247626
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < [email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
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@ Mwendwa Apparently banks have online access to the registrar of persons database through some web interface. Thats why they can sign you up for bank accounts through your phone. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote:
Barrack, after re-basing our economic indicators, we will achieve vision 2030 in September 2014. We have already achieved vision 2030!
Even with strong social values, foreigners are still able to forge identity cards and birth certificates without involving authorities. I've never seen a validation system in place; either in banks, schools, civil service, e.t.c. were they verify the authenticity of kipande.
On 15/04/2014, Barrack Otieno <[email protected]> wrote:
True Ali,
Michael Joseph kept saying we are a country on the verge of greatness but its this social vices that prevent us from achieving greatness as a country, if we sort this pillar we will achieve vision 2030 before 2030.
Regards
On 4/15/14, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote:
Barrack
Couldn't agree with you more. Though technology can change habits it needs to be anchored on solid a social pillar. The other day I read a quote from Chris Kirubi about social media. What struck me is what he said,about technology. Although the quote was about social media and Brand Strategy I loved what he said about Technology being the tail NOT the dog.
"You don't need a social media strategy - you need a brand strategy that leverages social media. Don't get off the brand strategy just because there's a new communications channel, that's how you lose the plot as a brand. Technology is the tail, not the dog," Chris Kirubi, Chairman of Coca Cola Nairobi (via Tim Sanders).
So who wags who? The dog or the tail? Food for thought.
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On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Barrack Otieno <[email protected]> wrote:
Mwendwa,
Our biggest challenge in achieving vision 2030 is in the Social and Political pillar. We need a concerted effort that will ensure that we are a value driven society, this is the only way we will tame social vices that have resulted in the current mess we are in. That said it can be done. Technology is a means to an end not an end in itself.
Best Regards
On 4/15/14, Crystal Watley Kigoni <[email protected]> wrote: If anyone recalls I asked for assistance in 2011 to build a database of all the refugees in the country with distributed points of registration starting in the camps. I wrote to Ndemo who was PS at the time and the idea was ignored.
IT can change a lot, but it requires real effort and implementation. Good ideas alone are not enough.
Best wishes,
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On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < [email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
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Given it will be the same corrupt police and immigration officers running this exercise, what will be the point? On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < [email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
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Conrad, I find it really offensive that you would paint every single police and immigration officer as corrupt. I am sure that in our case (as in any other country) it's a few bad apples. There are many men and women who faithfully serve this country every day and are not what you describe..... On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Rad! <[email protected]> wrote:
Given it will be the same corrupt police and immigration officers running this exercise, what will be the point?
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < [email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
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Brian, Without speaking for and/or behalf of Conrad, what I guess he meant is this; today, someone walks to Garissa Immigration office with 30K and they take his photo & fingerprints store them in a DB somewhere and the guy walks out with an authentic Kenyan ID, just like you and me. When we implement this 'new' system, that will cost us a few billion shillings no-doubt, seeing that it is likely going to be procured by that same entity that couldn't procure a working eVoter system, someone will still walk to an office in Garissa with 30K, have his fingerprints, biometric and even DNA data uploaded into this system, and walk out an authentic Kenyan, just like you & me. If Makaburi could have walked to the US Embassy with 1M USD and gotten a diplomatic American Passport & Visa, what use are all those systems in the background that supposedly are implemented to check on false passports and visas? The question is, regardless of how much technology you throw at this, how would you stop the fundamental problem that is the corruption that pervades our institutions? One thing I learnt in Engineering school, if you get your first principles wrong, then everything else that's based on those principles will be fundamentally useless. The problem is we as a country have not learnt what our first principles should be. Regards Ngigi Waithaka On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <[email protected]>wrote:
Conrad,
I find it really offensive that you would paint every single police and immigration officer as corrupt. I am sure that in our case (as in any other country) it's a few bad apples. There are many men and women who faithfully serve this country every day and are not what you describe.....
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Rad! <[email protected]> wrote:
Given it will be the same corrupt police and immigration officers running this exercise, what will be the point?
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < [email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
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Simple solution, get a thief to catch a thief....eventually all/most of the thieves are caught... On Tuesday, April 15, 2014, Ngigi Waithaka <[email protected]> wrote:
Brian,
Without speaking for and/or behalf of Conrad, what I guess he meant is this; today, someone walks to Garissa Immigration office with 30K and they take his photo & fingerprints store them in a DB somewhere and the guy walks out with an authentic Kenyan ID, just like you and me.
When we implement this 'new' system, that will cost us a few billion shillings no-doubt, seeing that it is likely going to be procured by that same entity that couldn't procure a working eVoter system, someone will still walk to an office in Garissa with 30K, have his fingerprints, biometric and even DNA data uploaded into this system, and walk out an authentic Kenyan, just like you & me.
If Makaburi could have walked to the US Embassy with 1M USD and gotten a diplomatic American Passport & Visa, what use are all those systems in the background that supposedly are implemented to check on false passports and visas?
The question is, regardless of how much technology you throw at this, how would you stop the fundamental problem that is the corruption that pervades our institutions?
One thing I learnt in Engineering school, if you get your first principles wrong, then everything else that's based on those principles will be fundamentally useless.
The problem is we as a country have not learnt what our first principles should be.
Regards Ngigi Waithaka
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <[email protected]<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
wrote:
Conrad,
I find it really offensive that you would paint every single police and immigration officer as corrupt. I am sure that in our case (as in any other country) it's a few bad apples. There are many men and women who faithfully serve this country every day and are not what you describe.....
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Rad! <[email protected]> wrote:
Given it will be the same corrupt police and immigration officers running this exercise, what will be the point?
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < [email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
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@Brian Be offended all you want. The fact of the matter is there is corruption at both immigration and the police. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <[email protected]>wrote:
Conrad,
I find it really offensive that you would paint every single police and immigration officer as corrupt. I am sure that in our case (as in any other country) it's a few bad apples. There are many men and women who faithfully serve this country every day and are not what you describe.....
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Rad! <[email protected]> wrote:
Given it will be the same corrupt police and immigration officers running this exercise, what will be the point?
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < [email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
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The police are, reliably, year after year, voted 'Most corrupt institution' in the country. I am sure there are a few good apples among them, but claiming anything else would just be empirically incorrect. On 15 April 2014 14:00, Rad! <[email protected]> wrote:
@Brian
Be offended all you want. The fact of the matter is there is corruption at both immigration and the police.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <[email protected]>wrote:
Conrad,
I find it really offensive that you would paint every single police and immigration officer as corrupt. I am sure that in our case (as in any other country) it's a few bad apples. There are many men and women who faithfully serve this country every day and are not what you describe.....
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Rad! <[email protected]> wrote:
Given it will be the same corrupt police and immigration officers running this exercise, what will be the point?
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < [email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
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This entire re-registration issue is a little hazy - if the register we have now is has inaccurate data, how will we ascertain who is or who isn't a citizen? Are we then saying that we will give citizenship to anyone who is a citizen? How will people prove citizenship? If we'll give citizenship to anyone, what's the point of the audit? Additionally, the problem is that immigration officials have repeatedly poisoned the well - however, nobody has been fired, so what's to prevent them from doing this again? In fact, what's to prevent them from viewing this re-registration as a windfall that will allow even more illegal aliens to be registered? On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Andrea Bohnstedt < [email protected]> wrote:
The police are, reliably, year after year, voted 'Most corrupt institution' in the country. I am sure there are a few good apples among them, but claiming anything else would just be empirically incorrect.
On 15 April 2014 14:00, Rad! <[email protected]> wrote:
@Brian
Be offended all you want. The fact of the matter is there is corruption at both immigration and the police.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <[email protected]>wrote:
Conrad,
I find it really offensive that you would paint every single police and immigration officer as corrupt. I am sure that in our case (as in any other country) it's a few bad apples. There are many men and women who faithfully serve this country every day and are not what you describe.....
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Rad! <[email protected]> wrote:
Given it will be the same corrupt police and immigration officers running this exercise, what will be the point?
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < [email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
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The police service is obviously corrupt. This is probably tolerated by the political class because it keeps demands for better salaries and work conditions to the minimum. The avenues of getting money illegally are numerous and have minimal risk so earning a net salary of Ksh 40,000 and making Kshs 200,000 keeps them happy. Also they are malleable to the politics of the day. Having interacted with some on a case before, I can comfortably say they are not incompetent. They can do all that detective work and CSI crap we see on TV if and only if facilitated by the equipment, politics and institutional support. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Andrea Bohnstedt <[email protected]> wrote:
The police are, reliably, year after year, voted 'Most corrupt institution' in the country. I am sure there are a few good apples among them, but claiming anything else would just be empirically incorrect.
On 15 April 2014 14:00, Rad! <[email protected]> wrote:
@Brian
Be offended all you want. The fact of the matter is there is corruption at both immigration and the police.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <[email protected]> wrote:
Conrad,
I find it really offensive that you would paint every single police and immigration officer as corrupt. I am sure that in our case (as in any other country) it's a few bad apples. There are many men and women who faithfully serve this country every day and are not what you describe.....
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Rad! <[email protected]> wrote:
Given it will be the same corrupt police and immigration officers running this exercise, what will be the point?
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
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@ Rad easy, this are the issues we are addressing at the Social Pillar (Nyumba Kumi) On 4/15/14, Rad! <[email protected]> wrote:
@Brian
Be offended all you want. The fact of the matter is there is corruption at both immigration and the police.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <[email protected]>wrote:
Conrad,
I find it really offensive that you would paint every single police and immigration officer as corrupt. I am sure that in our case (as in any other country) it's a few bad apples. There are many men and women who faithfully serve this country every day and are not what you describe.....
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Rad! <[email protected]> wrote:
Given it will be the same corrupt police and immigration officers running this exercise, what will be the point?
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva < [email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
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Some observations: 1. The IEBC are now considered experts on registration - interesting! 2. There is already a technical team made up of the Ministries of Information, Communication and Technology and Interior and Coordination of National Government - that was quick! 3. The government has their key messaging co-ordinated on this. Check out the quotes from two Cabinet Secretaries: “This is your *know-your-citizen* campaign that will help us develop a* reliable master database* that will help us in national planning and security,” - Matiang’i “We must *know who is a Kenyan* and who is not. We can only do this from a *credible digital database*,” - ole Lenku This suggests that messaging is being very controlled centrally and all talking points comes from the same source. Expect to hear more about knowing each other and the databases that will help us do that from other Cabinet Secretaries in the next few weeks. D On 14 April 2014 22:22, Mwendwa Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote:
Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
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The big problem with some of our institutions is lack of competent staff. The police leads the way followed by the County of Nairobi. The problem can be seen by how they operate. The police bosses are paid to think strategically but do they have the capacity to do that? During the vetting one senior officer heading a very important docket could not understand what is a policy when asked what policy they use on their day today operations The issue of corruption can not be erradicated because the bosses dont know how to go about it. I have the view that these bosses should be prosecuted for causing unnecessary deaths to junior officers and the public for their inaction or poor strategies employed in fighting crime. The policy should be changed to allow outsiders to get into our enforcement agencies and do away with this issue of rising through the ranks to head these institutions. On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:44 PM, Daudi Were <[email protected]> wrote: Some observations: 1. The IEBC are now considered experts on registration - interesting! 2. There is already a technical team made up of the Ministries of Information, Communication and Technology and Interior and Coordination of National Government - that was quick! 3. The government has their key messaging co-ordinated on this. Check out the quotes from two Cabinet Secretaries:“This is your know-your-citizen campaign that will help us develop areliable master database that will help us in national planning and security,” - Matiang’i “We must know who is a Kenyan and who is not. We can only do this from a credible digital database,” - ole Lenku This suggests that messaging is being very controlled centrally and all talking points comes from the same source. Expect to hear more about knowing each other and the databases that will help us do that from other Cabinet Secretaries in the next few weeks. D On 14 April 2014 22:22, Mwendwa Kivuva <[email protected]> wrote: Government to register all Kenyans afresh in digital database
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Digital-database-for-all-kenyans/-/1950946/2...
I've always wondered why it's virtually impossible to get UK or US citizenship through the back door, unless you get into a phony marriage with a delinquent from those countries. Will setting up a biometric database prevent rogue employees at the department of registration from getting bribes to register foreigners as Kenyan citizens? As far as I can remember, when I applied for the kipande, all my 10 digits' prints were taken.
-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh
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Mwendwa Kivuva -
Ngigi Waithaka -
Phares Kariuki -
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