Re: [kictanet] Could growth of the Mobile phone industry in Africa be affecting uptake of ccTLDs?

Listers, Just wondering aloud, whereas the mobile phone industry is a boon for the African continent, could it be stiffling growth of the domain name industry take an example we have over 10 million mobile phone subscribers, i dont know how many are using online services, there has been rapid growth over the last three years unfortunately the same case does not apply for the domain name industry, with all this apps being developed do we need domains and domain names? within the current scheme of things how can we spur content developement?, i know content can still be accessed using mobile devices but to what extent?, i will appreciate your thoughts on this subject -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/

Apologies my statistics may not be accurate but i a using Kenya as a scenario for the 10 million mobile phone users. On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Listers,
Just wondering aloud, whereas the mobile phone industry is a boon for the African continent, could it be stiffling growth of the domain name industry take an example we have over 10 million mobile phone subscribers, i dont know how many are using online services, there has been rapid growth over the last three years unfortunately the same case does not apply for the domain name industry, with all this apps being developed do we need domains and domain names? within the current scheme of things how can we spur content developement?, i know content can still be accessed using mobile devices but to what extent?, i will appreciate your thoughts on this subject
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/

I think the real question is how much content is mobile ready? Current estimates (http://searchengineland.com/less-than-10-of-the-web-in-2012-is-mobile-ready-...) put it at less than 10%. Locally despite the fact that mobile is the primary choice for accessing the net, not much content is mobile ready. Perhaps that's the point that should be underscored - how much content is mobile ready? and can more mobile content result in more domains registered? I think there is an opportunity here that has not been fully tapped by businesses and with mobile money and mobile payments becoming increasingly important, its just a matter of time before there is a flurry of activity to make more websites ready for mobile. My two kilobits. F On 21 February 2012 13:46, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Apologies my statistics may not be accurate but i a using Kenya as a scenario for the 10 million mobile phone users.
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Listers,
Just wondering aloud, whereas the mobile phone industry is a boon for the African continent, could it be stiffling growth of the domain name industry take an example we have over 10 million mobile phone subscribers, i dont know how many are using online services, there has been rapid growth over the last three years unfortunately the same case does not apply for the domain name industry, with all this apps being developed do we need domains and domain names? within the current scheme of things how can we spur content developement?, i know content can still be accessed using mobile devices but to what extent?, i will appreciate your thoughts on this subject
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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I think the issue will be resolved once IPv6 becomes more common place and all devices, not just mobile phones, will be addressable.

Rebeca Wanjiku was recently in South Africa, and was back with a different story on local domains http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2012/01/a-visit-to-co-za-domain-registry/ There is Kenyan content, but you will find it under other domains.

Interesting perspective Francis, you raise an important question can more mobile content result in more domains registered? i cant see the correlation clearly did you base it on mode of access? Thanks On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the real question is how much content is mobile ready? Current estimates (http://searchengineland.com/less-than-10-of-the-web-in-2012-is-mobile-ready-...) put it at less than 10%.
Locally despite the fact that mobile is the primary choice for accessing the net, not much content is mobile ready. Perhaps that's the point that should be underscored - how much content is mobile ready? and can more mobile content result in more domains registered? I think there is an opportunity here that has not been fully tapped by businesses and with mobile money and mobile payments becoming increasingly important, its just a matter of time before there is a flurry of activity to make more websites ready for mobile.
My two kilobits.
F
On 21 February 2012 13:46, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Apologies my statistics may not be accurate but i a using Kenya as a scenario for the 10 million mobile phone users.
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Listers,
Just wondering aloud, whereas the mobile phone industry is a boon for the African continent, could it be stiffling growth of the domain name industry take an example we have over 10 million mobile phone subscribers, i dont know how many are using online services, there has been rapid growth over the last three years unfortunately the same case does not apply for the domain name industry, with all this apps being developed do we need domains and domain names? within the current scheme of things how can we spur content developement?, i know content can still be accessed using mobile devices but to what extent?, i will appreciate your thoughts on this subject
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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Hi James, Please elaborate on how IP V 6 will help, i am not sure i understand your point, are there any case studies to demonstrate this? On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting perspective Francis, you raise an important question can more mobile content result in more domains registered? i cant see the correlation clearly did you base it on mode of access?
Thanks
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the real question is how much content is mobile ready? Current estimates (http://searchengineland.com/less-than-10-of-the-web-in-2012-is-mobile-ready-...) put it at less than 10%.
Locally despite the fact that mobile is the primary choice for accessing the net, not much content is mobile ready. Perhaps that's the point that should be underscored - how much content is mobile ready? and can more mobile content result in more domains registered? I think there is an opportunity here that has not been fully tapped by businesses and with mobile money and mobile payments becoming increasingly important, its just a matter of time before there is a flurry of activity to make more websites ready for mobile.
My two kilobits.
F
On 21 February 2012 13:46, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Apologies my statistics may not be accurate but i a using Kenya as a scenario for the 10 million mobile phone users.
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Listers,
Just wondering aloud, whereas the mobile phone industry is a boon for the African continent, could it be stiffling growth of the domain name industry take an example we have over 10 million mobile phone subscribers, i dont know how many are using online services, there has been rapid growth over the last three years unfortunately the same case does not apply for the domain name industry, with all this apps being developed do we need domains and domain names? within the current scheme of things how can we spur content developement?, i know content can still be accessed using mobile devices but to what extent?, i will appreciate your thoughts on this subject
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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He was the Minister in charge of ICT when the sector was undergoing great transformation and we were still implementing the Communications Act 2008. Affable and approachable I remember best him at WSIS I in Geneva when he invited all Kenyans present to "kanyaji" at his hotel and we chatted with him and listened to his anecdotes well beyond midnight! May his soul rest in peace. Waudo

In his role as Minister of Environment he sent out a Nema Approval to his neighbors to confirm consent for his own property (home) development, whose envelop enclosed detailed drawings and supporting documents. He respected the rule of law in ways most leaders ignore when they are in power. RIP Hon. John Michuki Njeri Rionge Twitter @njeririonge Facebook njeririonge LinkedIn njeririonge Skype ID nrionge URL www.njeri-rionge.com Sent from my iPad2 On Feb 22, 2012, at 9:53 AM, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com> wrote:
He was the Minister in charge of ICT when the sector was undergoing great transformation and we were still implementing the Communications Act 2008. Affable and approachable I remember best him at WSIS I in Geneva when he invited all Kenyans present to "kanyaji" at his hotel and we chatted with him and listened to his anecdotes well beyond midnight! May his soul rest in peace.
Waudo
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 09:53, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com>wrote:
He was the Minister in charge of ICT when the sector was undergoing great transformation and we were still implementing the Communications Act 2008. Affable and approachable I remember best him at WSIS I in Geneva when he invited all Kenyans present to "kanyaji" at his hotel and we chatted with him and listened to his anecdotes well beyond midnight! May his soul rest in peace.
Waudo
In his characteristic arrogance, and disregard for the rule of law, he dealt a major blow to Press Freedom in this country. To me, all the many good things Michuki did (and I am not in any position to quantify them) are cancelled out by the few grossly bad things he did. Of course Kenyans, like most people, fear talking bad of the dead, but the truth remains out there. He NEVER respected the rule of law in ways most leaders ignore when they are in power." I remember Michuki as a remnant of the colonial relic this country had to stand for decades. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.

Mark 11:15-19 Sometimes when civil liberties are abused, and when the press can pander to some political whims, we should be prepared to forfeit such rights for the GREATER good. I believe strongly in a free press - but I know the fourth estate can be easily manipulated to muddy the waters, malign people's thinking and create upheaval. Free press? OK, sure - tune in to any FM station in the morning as you drive your kids to school and let them soak up the filth...that proves the freedom is there...but it needs to be checked. Some moral codes are seriously lacking. In the last 4 weeks we've seen how errant reports (including on blogs/tweets/etc) are so off the mark...and we've seen such blogs/tweets cited as "sources" - seriously? Overall Hon Michuki restored Kenyan's diginity and made them "people" once again (and transformed them from "goods") - more than any human rights group. We now sit sit in threes and not fives...we breathe freely, women are not assaulted sexually in public transport. Yes, PSVs, still kill and maim - and yes they still overalp...but Kenyans living moments are dignified... Also, Nairobi river started flowing cleaner.... RIP Hon Michuki. If we had 10 more ministers like him, we'd only need ....10 ministers. On 22 February 2012 10:57, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 09:53, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com>wrote:
He was the Minister in charge of ICT when the sector was undergoing great transformation and we were still implementing the Communications Act 2008. Affable and approachable I remember best him at WSIS I in Geneva when he invited all Kenyans present to "kanyaji" at his hotel and we chatted with him and listened to his anecdotes well beyond midnight! May his soul rest in peace.
Waudo
In his characteristic arrogance, and disregard for the rule of law, he dealt a major blow to Press Freedom in this country. To me, all the many good things Michuki did (and I am not in any position to quantify them) are cancelled out by the few grossly bad things he did. Of course Kenyans, like most people, fear talking bad of the dead, but the truth remains out there. He NEVER respected the rule of law in ways most leaders ignore when they are in power." I remember Michuki as a remnant of the colonial relic this country had to stand for decades.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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Wash, That would be correct, then there is the passage of time and the lessons therein, which cannot be ignored, that is fact and many including you and I have had our moments. For sure we should be true to all aspects of our life journeys. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:57, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 09:53, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com>wrote:
He was the Minister in charge of ICT when the sector was undergoing great transformation and we were still implementing the Communications Act 2008. Affable and approachable I remember best him at WSIS I in Geneva when he invited all Kenyans present to "kanyaji" at his hotel and we chatted with him and listened to his anecdotes well beyond midnight! May his soul rest in peace.
Waudo
In his characteristic arrogance, and disregard for the rule of law, he dealt a major blow to Press Freedom in this country. To me, all the many good things Michuki did (and I am not in any position to quantify them) are cancelled out by the few grossly bad things he did. Of course Kenyans, like most people, fear talking bad of the dead, but the truth remains out there. He NEVER respected the rule of law in ways most leaders ignore when they are in power." I remember Michuki as a remnant of the colonial relic this country had to stand for decades.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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His attack of Standard Newspaper and his involvement with the Artur Brothers and his tribal chauvinism was also very evident whenever he spoke showed that he never respected the rule of law. But his stream lining of the transport industry is commendable. Regardless R.I.P On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 09:53, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com>wrote:
He was the Minister in charge of ICT when the sector was undergoing great transformation and we were still implementing the Communications Act 2008. Affable and approachable I remember best him at WSIS I in Geneva when he invited all Kenyans present to "kanyaji" at his hotel and we chatted with him and listened to his anecdotes well beyond midnight! May his soul rest in peace.
Waudo
In his characteristic arrogance, and disregard for the rule of law, he dealt a major blow to Press Freedom in this country. To me, all the many good things Michuki did (and I am not in any position to quantify them) are cancelled out by the few grossly bad things he did. Of course Kenyans, like most people, fear talking bad of the dead, but the truth remains out there. He NEVER respected the rule of law in ways most leaders ignore when they are in power." I remember Michuki as a remnant of the colonial relic this country had to stand for decades.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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Which of the two sides of him impacted more to you, me and the rest of Kenyans. I will choose to remember him for the positives. Someone summarized this about him Liked by few, feared by many but respected by ALL. On 02/22/2012 11:30 AM, Joseph McDonald wrote:
His attack of Standard Newspaper and his involvement with the Artur Brothers and his tribal chauvinism was also very evident whenever he spoke showed that he never respected the rule of law.
But his stream lining of the transport industry is commendable.
Regardless R.I.P
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com <mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 09:53, waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com <mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com>> wrote:
He was the Minister in charge of ICT when the sector was undergoing great transformation and we were still implementing the Communications Act 2008. Affable and approachable I remember best him at WSIS I in Geneva when he invited all Kenyans present to "kanyaji" at his hotel and we chatted with him and listened to his anecdotes well beyond midnight! May his soul rest in peace.
Waudo
In his characteristic arrogance, and disregard for the rule of law, he dealt a major blow to Press Freedom in this country. To me, all the many good things Michuki did (and I am not in any position to quantify them) are cancelled out by the few grossly bad things he did. Of course Kenyans, like most people, fear talking bad of the dead, but the truth remains out there. He NEVER respected the rule of law in ways most leaders ignore when they are in power." I remember Michuki as a remnant of the colonial relic this country had to stand for decades.
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:30, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
His attack of Standard Newspaper and his involvement with the Artur Brothers and his tribal chauvinism was also very evident whenever he spoke showed that he never respected the rule of law.
But his stream lining of the transport industry is commendable.
There is really nothing like Hon. Michuki streamlined the transport industry. This is a misconception that everyone seems to fall for. What he did was a short-term act of bravado, well calculated to make him and his friend reap profits from the sale of seatbelts and speed governors. There was no real political will to streamline the sector in the long term otherwise stringent laws would have been formulated to the effect. Where are the "Michuki Rules" and why are they not being enforced anymore? How many vehicles have seatbelts/speed governors that work? Michuki and his friends made their money in the name of "fixing the transport sector". If you ask me, that "fixing" required much more that he pretended to do, as you can see already. Kenyans are still left singing (yearning) for "Michuki Rules". I remember what some hopeless Minister said about the rules when this minister was in that docket. Besides that, I'd like to borrow from the Mars Group this one: http://www.marsgroupkenya.org/multimedia/?StoryID=307363 Why anyone (bar for his family and close friends) would miss Michuki still beats me. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.

I think this is stupid. Stupid indeed if we have to look for the negative side of every good thing even if it means manufacturing some...negatives where they do not exist. OW...you mean the late Hero implemented the public transport reform policies so as to sell seat belts and other items? I thought he had other income generating business that dd not require "seat belt" monies. On this one I must say you are behaving childish and it is unfortunate that you have choosen this public platform to say bad things about a departed hero. I am sure you would not say this to other "heros" and therfore I read other things! Too bad! Lets use this platform in a better way. JKW. From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: jwkabinga@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2012, 12:13 Subject: Re: [kictanet] R.I.P. John Michuki On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:30, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote: His attack of Standard Newspaper and his involvement with the Artur Brothers and his tribal chauvinism was also very evident whenever he spoke showed that he never respected the rule of law.
But his stream lining of the transport industry is commendable.
There is really nothing like Hon. Michuki streamlined the transport industry. This is a misconception that everyone seems to fall for. What he did was a short-term act of bravado, well calculated to make him and his friend reap profits from the sale of seatbelts and speed governors. There was no real political will to streamline the sector in the long term otherwise stringent laws would have been formulated to the effect. Where are the "Michuki Rules" and why are they not being enforced anymore? How many vehicles have seatbelts/speed governors that work? Michuki and his friends made their money in the name of "fixing the transport sector". If you ask me, that "fixing" required much more that he pretended to do, as you can see already. Kenyans are still left singing (yearning) for "Michuki Rules". I remember what some hopeless Minister said about the rules when this minister was in that docket. Besides that, I'd like to borrow from the Mars Group this one: http://www.marsgroupkenya.org/multimedia/?StoryID=307363 Why anyone (bar for his family and close friends) would miss Michuki still beats me. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwkabinga%40yahoo.co.uk The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 14:04, Josphat Kabinga <jwkabinga@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
I think this is stupid. Stupid indeed if we have to look for the negative side of every good thing even if it means manufacturing some...negatives where they do not exist. OW...you mean the late Hero implemented the public transport reform policies so as to sell seat belts and other items? I thought he had other income generating business that dd not require "seat belt" monies. On this one I must say you are behaving childish and it is unfortunate that you have choosen this public platform to say bad things about a departed hero. I am sure you would not say this to other "heros" and therfore I read other things! Too bad! Lets use this platform in a better way. JKW.
Where is the heroism when the sector is now in the state in which it is in? Whatever he did in the sector was not built on the foundation it needed, Hero now, villian after. I could be childish yes, but I'd rather be, than pretend there is something to celebrate in the transport sector that Hon. Michuki did. A "house of cards" is nothing to celebrate. You may want everyone to use this forum to dwell only on the perceived good things Hon. Michuki did. Unfortunately, I have chosen to dwell on what I perceive as he did, and it is my opinion. Expressing my negative sentiments about his contributions to this country is my entitlement, just like yours - dwelling on his good sides, but hero are never recognized by their building "a house of cards". -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.

Hi Wash, et al, On 2/22/12 12:13 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:30, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com <mailto:mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>> wrote:
But his stream lining of the transport industry is commendable.
There is really nothing like Hon. Michuki streamlined the transport industry.
I would like to divert the discussion to see if any or none of the observed changes in the transport industry can be translated into opportunities for our ICT sector. 1. Considering how much time we spend in traffic and the comfort and sense of security resulting from the changes, it means that people can actually get some level of work done in public means. The concept of Bus wifi is not new and am wondering why its not been put to good use. I would get into a bus to work every day if it had free wifi as part of its value add. see: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireless/2008-04-10-wifi_N.htm 2. If am a matatu owner, i would be keen to have an understanding of how my revenue is generated from my investment. As such, if there was someone who would develop a system that monitors seat occupancy and connected to a GPS system. That i can access at the end of every day or in reall-time thats why we have 3G anyways. It would be easy to know what route my matatu was on the whole day, how many commuters went in and out of a seat, where they got in and out of through GPS and basically have an idea of what to expect at the end of the day. 3. With the formation of many SACCO's i see potential for partnership between Govt and Private Sector to install GPS/3G solutions that can monitor movement of the public transport for traffic management planning. emanamba is the only solution that i have seen to have taken advantage of the transport sector. Am certain the brilliant minds on this list can develop better ideas and solutions that can take advantage of the changes observed in the transport sector. Regards, Michuki.

@ Mich, I totally agree. Try focusing on ICTs. I know the social scientist on the list have never agreed with me on this but if we start listing the good, the bad and the ugly side of any human being...you will never stop. walu. nb: one (ICT) secret- Did you know that when he was Min. in Charge of ICTs he used to learn IT at night? It shows the old man had after-all some streak of humbleness - at least enough to acknowledge his limitations. Most of these politicians are forced to load and run two personalities concurrently...multitasking I guess. --- On Wed, 2/22/12, Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com> wrote: From: Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] R.I.P. John Michuki To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 2:05 PM Hi Wash, et al, On 2/22/12 12:13 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:30, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com <mailto:mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>> wrote:
But his stream lining of the transport industry is commendable.
There is really nothing like Hon. Michuki streamlined the transport industry.
I would like to divert the discussion to see if any or none of the observed changes in the transport industry can be translated into opportunities for our ICT sector. 1. Considering how much time we spend in traffic and the comfort and sense of security resulting from the changes, it means that people can actually get some level of work done in public means. The concept of Bus wifi is not new and am wondering why its not been put to good use. I would get into a bus to work every day if it had free wifi as part of its value add. see: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireless/2008-04-10-wifi_N.htm 2. If am a matatu owner, i would be keen to have an understanding of how my revenue is generated from my investment. As such, if there was someone who would develop a system that monitors seat occupancy and connected to a GPS system. That i can access at the end of every day or in reall-time thats why we have 3G anyways. It would be easy to know what route my matatu was on the whole day, how many commuters went in and out of a seat, where they got in and out of through GPS and basically have an idea of what to expect at the end of the day. 3. With the formation of many SACCO's i see potential for partnership between Govt and Private Sector to install GPS/3G solutions that can monitor movement of the public transport for traffic management planning. emanamba is the only solution that i have seen to have taken advantage of the transport sector. Am certain the brilliant minds on this list can develop better ideas and solutions that can take advantage of the changes observed in the transport sector. Regards, Michuki. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

For those of you waiting for buses to provide WiFi, The Modern Coast Oxygen luxury bus service between Nairobi and Mombasa is already offering WiFi on their buses
participants (12)
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Alex Kamiru
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Barrack Otieno
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Dennis Kioko
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Francis Hook
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James Mbugua
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Joseph McDonald
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Josphat Kabinga
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Michuki Mwangi
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Njeri Rionge
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Odhiambo Washington
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Walubengo J
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waudo siganga