New subject: Fwd: information on .africa and the lies surrounding an individual's push

19 Aug 2010

      They are more on this very list that claim being on the board of  
ICANN. That never were, not withstanding that they can be in the future.

In my humble opinion, the rest is politic's.

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On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>  
wrote:
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Walu,
Your point is noted, however .africa is not just another TLD - it is  
in the same realm as .eu i.e. a regional domain that represents  
multiple jurisdictions - in the same manner that .eu was granted at  
the behest of the EU/EC - subsequent to a process that brought  
forward the buy-in of major stakeholder in the EU, including  
Governments, operators and local internet community - similarly,  
Africa needs to have undergone a processs whereby there is broad buy- 
in/consensus behind whoever it is that is making the pitch to ICANN.
Having said that - I for one, will NEVER support anyone who tries to  
gain leverage/support by using lies:
1) She has never been an ICANN board member - despite repeated  
brazen claims to the office
2) She has never been given a formal (let alone written) endorsement  
by the AU
3) She feels threatened by reputable and legitimate African internet  
bodies and went to great lengths to sabotage AfriNIC's proposed  
Addist meeting by telling lies to the government and Ethiopia  
telecoms which prompted them pulling out 2 months before the  
meeting. Only to find out after consultations that they have been  
fed a bunch of lies and ended up losing face both at a local and  
global perspective.
My two cents,
Brian
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Njeri <njeri.rionge@igniteconsulting.co.ke
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wrote:
Walu, Finally common sense becomes common sense as we know it.
I opted to saying nothing before, will continue to do so. But I  
needed to note some sense in the thread and urge people to read in  
between the lines closely.
Cross the T's and dot the I's.
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On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Barrack Otieno  
<otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
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Very democratic comments Walu :-)
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
I really dont know who this lady is - other than having seeing her  
at the Kenyan IGF where she also pushed for the dot.Africa  
initiative. Indeed as Pierre mentions elsewhere, there's a parallel  
push @ http://www.dotafrica.org/home.html which I believe has the  
support of AfNOG, AfrNIC, AfTLD (the  Af* organisations).
However and I stand to be corrected -  I think the ICANN process is  
quite open and transparent and we therefore cannot stop any bidder  
pushing to have a top level domain like dot.Africa (free for all  
approach that ofcourse has had its advantages and disadvantages).
So whereas I support and understand the need have dot.africa under  
the family and philosophy of Af* organisations, we really have no  
control over other bidders trying to get there first. Maybe we  
should just up our game and get the domain before the competition.
walu.
disclaimer: comments shared are personal and not the view of the  
organisations I am affiliated with.
--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>  
wrote:
From: Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: information on .africa and the lies  
surrounding an individual's push
To: jwalu@yahoo.com
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 11:34 PM
@ Njenga,
It's not really about who is onlist or not, but during the just  
concluded EAIGF in Uganda one 'iron lady' has been claiming to  
speak on behalf of AU and that there are some endorsements made  
that she presented to this regional forum, which turned out to be a  
sham!
I hope Brian my explanation is right.
On 18 August 2010 18:24, Njenga Gathecha <njenga.mkenya@gmail.com>  
wrote:
Hello all. I think the best thing to do is to have all the members  
listed somewhere and then in case of doubt, listers can consult the  
list. This would ward off cons who may seek to exploit innocents.
Thanks for pointing this out now.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com
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wrote:
Hi all,
Just received this. Apparently she has formally been propagating  
lies about being on the ICANN board etc.... and even put up  
counterfiet letters on her website - this verges on criminal! What  
is her interest?
Brian
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Brian,
here is some info for you.. she constructed this whole thing on  
lies. you can judge for yourself. I did not want to spam all but I  
sent this to a few key people.  check this:
- there is no African Union Authority!!!! do you really believe  
that the Chairman of the AU Commission will have claimed to write  
on behalf of a non existent authority and give her a letter in that  
sense? so maybe she should explain to people why she has a 'weird'  
letter on her website. Check her website and you will see.
- here is an email that tells you how she lies! she actually took  
me to the ombudsman at ICANN in 2007, complaining that I was  
preventing her from doing dot africa, copied the whole board at the  
time --- all her claims were immediately dismissed when I sent the  
letters and emails to the ombudsman, of the same caliber as the  
below that she had been sending to regional organisations and  
bodies. My fault was to have written to all organisations, as the  
Regional Liaison, to dismiss her claims of ICANN endorsement of dot  
africa and her being on the board.
- she keeps saying ICANN is endorsing dot africa! how can ICANN  
endorse a TLD?? how can ICANN be judge and party???? she is  
supposed to have been at the GNSO council and ICANN and understand  
what she is talking about!!!! she has been in the ICANN process for  
the past 5 years and still has no idea how all this functions.
I let you judge. The woman does not have her wits together I think.
Cheers
Sophia Bekele <sophiabekele@yahoo.com>
30/08/2006 01:48 PM
Subject
Re:
Hello <name removed>,
I hope your vacation is going well.  As per discussion, I thought I  
would convey someof what is on my plate that may be of mutual  
interest.
Presently, other than my private projects/business interests, I  
also serve on the board of ICANN, the international internet  
governance organization.  At this stage, I have outlined few  
projects in addition to an initiative that could quickly put under  
incubation.  Any or all of these could serve as a basis for mutual  
collaboration.
Generally speaking the projects span ICT, public sector governance,  
regional integration, internet governance etc..
The priority project I mentioned to UN Undersecretary General was  
that of dot.africa (.Africa) which he expressed great interest.   
Thus, there will be a need to synergize and align strategies of  
possible project collaboration.
Dot.Africa is an initiative supported by ICANN,  that aims at  
unifying and consolidating the African Information Society and  
presence within the Internet as distinct from other Continental  
communities.  As such, there now exists dot.EU (.EU),  dot.Asia. 
(.ASIA) and dot.LatinAmerica (.LA) as similar ongoing initiatives.   
The present paradigm is to halt Africans marginalization in this  
age of globalization.  This is actually one of the goals of NEPAD,  
which of course is an initiative that is already endorsed b the  
UN.  There are no prices for guessing what would happen if  
dot.Africa is not also initiated and implemented at the same time  
that other Continental  communities on the net have been put in  
place.
To get this of the ground, it appears from the experiences of the  
others, a minimum of 13 countries in Africawould have to come on  
board.  The endorsement for UNECA would of course be helpful.    
This initiative would require a proposal to be distributed to the  
potential participating countries.  UNECA’s help would be crucial  
in communicating who might wish to participate.  Countries that ha 
ve already have ongoing National policies that relate ICT as a str 
ategic tool for National development would be the primary candidat 
es.   Being something that would turn into a Continental initiativ 
e, it is rewarding at best for the UNECA to play an active role in 
 this initial stage.
As an African representative on ICANN board, I have taken the  
initiative to coordinate and see the successful implementation of  
the project.  I believe therefore, we should have a meeting to  
progress this further.  I suggest we meet ASAP to get this moving,  
as time is of essence to the extent that the application for the  
domain name must be submitted before January 2007.
However due to our travel schedules, we should arrange a  
teleconference meeting that is mutually convenient for all within  
the next two weeks.
Regards,
Sophia
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